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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #240 on: 05 August 2018, 16:55:55 »
Regards the Terran question, that's the "art issue" discussed covertly earlier.  As I eventually stated, it wasn't a definitive answer at all, it was an art mistake that made it look like a thing.  Cubby already said it's been added to the fix-list for future printing. 
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #241 on: 05 August 2018, 17:35:02 »
It’s not an art issue. There’s nothing to fix. Rigel Kentarus is held by the Falcons. Terra is not. That’s what the map shows.
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #242 on: 05 August 2018, 17:51:15 »
It’s not an art issue. There’s nothing to fix. Rigel Kentarus is held by the Falcons. Terra is not. That’s what the map shows.

...which is exactly the response I got when I advanced this issue to management.
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #243 on: 05 August 2018, 17:58:50 »
Rigil Kentarus is part of the Falcons OZ. Not Terra

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #244 on: 05 August 2018, 18:01:23 »
...which is exactly the response I got when I advanced this issue to management.

It's objectively evident for the map to NOT be erroneously showing the Falcon OZ extending around Terra's location one of the following must be true:

Terra's location has changed.
This map is the first 3-D map ever provided of the Inner Sphere, and the extreme Rimward-Spinward finger of the Falcon OZ that covers Terra's position in 2-D misses it above or below in 3-D.
 
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« Reply #245 on: 05 August 2018, 18:08:12 »
So hey let's segue to a new topic that isn't beaten to death!

Speaking of crazy border lines, how about New Avalon and Coloma?

It might be better to ask in the "Ask the Writers" thread, but what the hell the iron here is hot.

Why are those worlds tied to the rest of the realm by crazy long and thin tendrils consisting of no habitable systems rather than being surrounded by little bubbles, like those Marian-occupied worlds over in the FWL?

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #246 on: 05 August 2018, 18:11:45 »
Page 67, after reading all this stuff going on; I had to laugh at the prospect of them being scared over a 5th Succession war.
Really? So, what is this just a tea social setting we're experiencing lately?!  :P
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #247 on: 05 August 2018, 18:15:14 »
Page 67, after reading all this stuff going on; I had to laugh at the prospect of them being scared over a 5th Succession war.
Really? So, what is this just a tea social setting we're experiencing lately?!  :P

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #248 on: 05 August 2018, 19:15:38 »
Page 67, after reading all this stuff going on; I had to laugh at the prospect of them being scared over a 5th Succession war.
Really? So, what is this just a tea social setting we're experiencing lately?!  :P

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #249 on: 05 August 2018, 19:17:59 »
Clan Invasion: Fifth Succession War
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« Reply #250 on: 05 August 2018, 19:23:15 »
Clan Invasion: Fifth Succession War
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Fight me, BattleTech fanbois. :D

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #251 on: 05 August 2018, 19:27:23 »
Clan Invasion: Fifth Succession War
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Fight me, BattleTech fanbois. :D

I mean...you know what they called the seventeenth battle for Hesperus?
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #252 on: 05 August 2018, 19:37:59 »
Clan Invasion: Fifth Succession War
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Fight me, BattleTech fanbois. :D

With only a couple of years between the 1st and the 4th it's pretty much one big war from 2786 to 3030.
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« Reply #253 on: 05 August 2018, 19:53:50 »
Still holding onto my theory from years ago about the Star Adders being the ones. Longshot, but still....

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #254 on: 05 August 2018, 20:33:48 »
I mean...you know what they called the seventeenth battle for Hesperus?

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« Reply #255 on: 05 August 2018, 20:43:33 »
I mean...you know what they called the seventeenth battle for Hesperus?
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #256 on: 05 August 2018, 21:17:23 »
I mean...you know what they called the seventeenth battle for Hesperus?

The Defiance Industries corporate softball league championship where Accounting defeated Facilities Management in the greatest upset since 3010?

Still holding onto my theory from years ago about the Star Adders being the ones. Longshot, but still....

That would be some mighty impressive blitzkrieg...

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #257 on: 05 August 2018, 21:32:46 »


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I can't imagine a quicker way to kill the game other than printing ilClan, then closing up shop.

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #258 on: 05 August 2018, 21:41:00 »
I can't imagine a quicker way to kill the game other than printing ilClan, then closing up shop.

I doubt that's the plan, thankfully.
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #259 on: 05 August 2018, 21:44:36 »
Enjoyed it. Its what it supposed to be: the advancement form the stalemate to the Walls fall, leading up to one to a very anticipated ending to a current battle tech plot arch. Not surprised at the lack of a super-climactic to the end, as transition pieces are just that. You don't get the finale to the finale. Enjoyed the developments, some great fights to recreate, looking forward to IlClan. Nothing more could have been reasonably expected.


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« Reply #260 on: 05 August 2018, 21:52:52 »
Since there seems to be some confusion: what myself and others mean by "no climax" is that nothing particularly exciting happens before the cliffhanger. Nobody is saying that they wanted the actual end to the story; even if the book did end with the battle between the Clan fleet and the Republic forces on Terra I fully would want the story to continue moving forward.
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #261 on: 05 August 2018, 22:01:59 »
Since there seems to be some confusion: what myself and others mean by "no climax" is that nothing particularly exciting happens before the cliffhanger. Nobody is saying that they wanted the actual end to the story; even if the book did end with the battle between the Clan fleet and the Republic forces on Terra I fully would want the story to continue moving forward.

I'm not sure what could have satisfied you then. the book was filled with revelations, developments from the 'shattering' of a locked in place status quo we've had for an admittedly long time in terms of player patience in multiple areas, for multiple factions. If that progress forward isn't exciting enough, I don't know what other final battle/conflict resolution could have been 'big' enough without stealing from IlClan.

Its understandable. I thought Empire Strikes Back sucked when I first saw it too, for a similar reason. In retrospect, I am happy with it, of course.

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #262 on: 05 August 2018, 23:08:25 »
So hey let's segue to a new topic that isn't beaten to death!

Speaking of crazy border lines, how about New Avalon and Coloma?

It might be better to ask in the "Ask the Writers" thread, but what the hell the iron here is hot.

Why are those worlds tied to the rest of the realm by crazy long and thin tendrils consisting of no habitable systems rather than being surrounded by little bubbles, like those Marian-occupied worlds over in the FWL?

If I was part of the DCMS on New Avalon as of this snapshot... I would probably be getting a little nervous TBH. No friendly worlds within jump range isn't exactly the greatest strategic situation.

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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #263 on: 06 August 2018, 00:31:19 »
Couple things:

1. how long before we can drop all the spoiler tags for new posts?

2. Why in the world does Stone keep Tucker Harwell around? I mean, Tucker isn’t quite the hyper-genius he used to be, and it doesn’t seem like he has been able to fix the HPG network inside the wall...so why does Stone keep him around and share his most secret plans with the guy? It just felt odd to me that Stone felt compelled to share so much with the Tucker.

3. On p.83 in the physical copy I picked up, there is a section near the bottom of the page about Dyev that appears to have been cut off. Anyone know what the rest of that paragraph was supposed to say?

4. p.17, the sidebar references the wrong page in the continuation at the bottom.

Other than that, I enjoyed the book. There are lots of interesting battles that play out, and I was able to fight some of them at Origins and GenCon. They were a ton of fun, and it is pretty cool to finally be playing along with the timeline again. Never mind that I managed to get Malvina Hazen shot out of her mech on Arc-Royal, it was still awesome to be playing a scenario almost straight out of the newest source book. I would have liked a little more closure on the wall or the balckout, but Paul mentioning that one of the options in each case is actually going to be the correct one helps.
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« Reply #264 on: 06 August 2018, 00:32:46 »
I'm just waiting for it to come out on PDF :D
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« Reply #265 on: 06 August 2018, 00:35:11 »

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« Reply #266 on: 06 August 2018, 00:46:49 »
2. Why in the world does Stone keep Tucker Harwell around? I mean, Tucker isn’t quite the hyper-genius he used to be, and it doesn’t seem like he has been able to fix the HPG network inside the wall...so why does Stone keep him around and share his most secret plans with the guy? It just felt odd to me that Stone felt compelled to share so much with the Tucker.
He doesn't have a David Lear anymore. That's at least my assessment.
Tucker is probably filling that role for the old man.
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #267 on: 06 August 2018, 00:56:53 »
He fills the same role as a 5 year old does in the evil overlord list.

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« Reply #268 on: 06 August 2018, 01:10:54 »
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Re: NEW RELEASE: Shattered Fortress
« Reply #269 on: 06 August 2018, 01:21:12 »
He doesn't have a David Lear anymore. That's at least my assessment.
Tucker is probably filling that role for the old man.

That might not be giving Tucker a fair shake. Tucker tracked Stone down and thawed him. Not an easy task at all.

But yeah. Also, Stone needs a smart guy to talk to. So like Atlas said. As far as the writing goes there has to be a character willing to argue with Stone. Evereybody else worships the guy.
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