Author Topic: Clan Blood Spirit Enclave: Heroes of Our Time (Read 189836 times)

tassa_kay · « **Reply #720 on:** 31 January 2014, 16:51:44 »

Methinks you're thinking of Randall Bills, who indeed wrote a BattleCorps seven-part story called "Tears of Blood".

I also remember you. :)

Kerensky Chose Jade · « **Reply #721 on:** 31 January 2014, 18:13:52 »

tassa, you are in fact the man I was looking for. How are you my old friend? I am happy you spoke up.

tassa_kay · « **Reply #722 on:** 31 January 2014, 19:59:03 »

Well, considering the fact that TPTB finally got around to bushwhacking my Clan? I'm doing pretty darned well. ;D How are ya? Pull up a chair, there's always room for any Clan that believes in their purity of purpose as much as the Blood Spirits do.

Kerensky Chose Jade · « **Reply #723 on:** 31 January 2014, 21:51:42 »

Do you remember I was engaged to be married last time we spoke.

Well, we did the thing and got hitched. Now I have a great kid man, just beautiful. I am very lucky and I know it.

So I guess my life has completely changed since my previous departure. However, I remain a die hard Jade Falcon. You remember how I am about the Good Guys. }:)

Top Sergeant · « **Reply #724 on:** 01 February 2014, 00:01:20 »

I like you sig KCJ O0

Kerensky Chose Jade · « **Reply #725 on:** 01 February 2014, 00:08:44 »

Thanks a lot Sarge. :)

tassa_kay · « **Reply #726 on:** 01 February 2014, 01:47:42 »

I think that's literally the perfect Jade Falcon sigbar, lol.

Kerensky Chose Jade · « **Reply #727 on:** 01 February 2014, 10:35:52 »

Quote from: tassa_kay on 01 February 2014, 01:47:42

I think that's literally the perfect Jade Falcon sigbar, lol.

You know me tassa, would you expect anything less? O0

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #728 on:** 02 February 2014, 19:52:09 »

Yup, the Jade Falcons. Crashing with plane in flames because they refuse to believe it is in flames since the founding of the Clans.

Trajan Helmer · « **Reply #729 on:** 19 February 2014, 16:04:22 »

Aff, Stormlion, and do not forget it!

Terminax · « **Reply #730 on:** 10 March 2014, 11:45:12 »

I've noticed lately in other threads that allot of people seem to be glossing over the fact the Blood Spirits were just as bad hypocrites when it came to the Clans precious traditions that the rest of them were. I'm a huge Blood Spirit fan, but even I recognize they had just as much stupid, irrational behavior that got them into trouble more often than not as any other Clan did. I think it's fair to say, WoR if anything finally showed that the Clans were just as human as anyone else in the BT universe.

Foxx Ital · « **Reply #731 on:** 10 March 2014, 11:46:42 »

Quote from: Terminax on 10 March 2014, 11:45:12

I've noticed lately in other threads that allot of people seem to be glossing over the fact the Blood Spirits were just as bad hypocrites when it came to the Clans precious traditions that the rest of them were. I'm a huge Blood Spirit fan, but even I recognize they had just as much stupid, irrational behavior that got them into trouble more often than not as any other Clan did. I think it's fair to say, WoR if anything finally showed that the Clans were just as human as anyone else in the BT universe.

Thats because the rest of us Clanners are hypocrites...and its not polite to point ;)

Wolf72 · « **Reply #732 on:** 10 March 2014, 19:15:08 »

I looove the BS that the BS put out! :-) ... hah get it?! Bull 'Stink' and Blood Spirit >:D

the writers could have taken the Wars of Reaving so many different ways. The clan is gone, but are there any blood names that survived or were reaved and revived (reaving means the current blood names are wiped out and you can restart from the master copy right? ... right?)

Jaim Magnus · « **Reply #733 on:** 10 March 2014, 19:21:38 »

Reaving means they are no longer used. The Spirits were technically absorbed but effectively annihilated and their genetic repository destroyed. The Star Adders now technically control their genetic heritage, but the Home Clans and their whole view of 'taint' probably means that they won't be used. That's my view at least.

The only bloodnames that will have survived are the non-exclusive lines in use by the other 4 Home Clans... Zakok MIGHT be an example of this (or a red herring).

Top Sergeant · « **Reply #734 on:** 10 March 2014, 22:04:35 »

For many years I didn't give two hoots about any Clan. Then I developed a fondness for the Blood Spirits, even though they were one of those vile blots on Mankind. Odd, I know.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #735 on:** 10 March 2014, 22:29:24 »

Me? I think there were survivors. I think some got away, there rebuilding, and letting there hate grow and grow. There's is just to much potential for mayhem that a resurgent Clan Blood Spirit could bring.

tassa_kay · « **Reply #736 on:** 11 March 2014, 03:01:08 »

Quote from: Terminax on 10 March 2014, 11:45:12

I've noticed lately in other threads that allot of people seem to be glossing over the fact the Blood Spirits were just as bad hypocrites when it came to the Clans precious traditions that the rest of them were. I'm a huge Blood Spirit fan, but even I recognize they had just as much stupid, irrational behavior that got them into trouble more often than not as any other Clan did.

People gloss those things over because we're likable, and because everyone loves a spunky underdog!

StCptMara · « **Reply #737 on:** 11 March 2014, 03:23:11 »

Quote from: tassa_kay on 11 March 2014, 03:01:08

People gloss those things over because we're likable, and because everyone loves a spunky underdog!

And, also, because, overall, we KNOW we are being hypocritical, but, we at least are HONEST to ourselves
about it through our justifications of it. The other Clans never try to justify their hypocrisy, and just delude
themselves into thinking their way is the right way. We know our way is the right way..because of reasons!

Wolf72 · « **Reply #738 on:** 11 March 2014, 18:37:31 »

Quote from: Jaim Magnus on 10 March 2014, 19:21:38

Reaving means they are no longer used. The Spirits were technically absorbed but effectively annihilated and their genetic repository destroyed. The Star Adders now technically control their genetic heritage, but the Home Clans and their whole view of 'taint' probably means that they won't be used. That's my view at least.

The only bloodnames that will have survived are the non-exclusive lines in use by the other 4 Home Clans... Zakok MIGHT be an example of this (or a red herring).

ok, I thought I read in WoR that any current holder was reaved ... but, if a clan wanted to they could use the master copy and start over again from the original genetic copies

rebs · « **Reply #739 on:** 11 March 2014, 18:44:18 »

They could, but the ones who hold the power due to the Trial of Absorption is the Star Adders, and I would bet they will do no such thing. I know the Adders like to think reasonably most of the time, but I would not be surprised if they held a grudge forever against the Blood Spirits and never revived any of their lines.

cold1 · « **Reply #740 on:** 12 March 2014, 06:58:35 »

Quote from: rebs on 11 March 2014, 18:44:18

They could, but the ones who hold the power due to the Trial of Absorption is the Star Adders, and I would bet they will do no such thing. I know the Adders like to think reasonably most of the time, but I would not be surprised if they held a grudge forever against the Blood Spirits and never revived any of their lines.

$20 says the Adders traded the lines to the Lions. The Lions continue their roll and they and the Adders now vie for control in the homeworlds. Schmitt vs Truscott version 2.0

wantec · « **Reply #741 on:** 12 March 2014, 07:22:15 »

Quote from: Wolf72 on 11 March 2014, 18:37:31

ok, I thought I read in WoR that any current holder was reaved ... but, if a clan wanted to they could use the master copy and start over again from the original genetic copies

That was sort-of the original plan concocted by the Vipers. Any warrior who had contact with the Inner Sphere, any warrior who was created from a warrior who had contact with the Inner Sphere, or the genetic legacy of any warrior who had contact with the Inner Sphere was considered "tainted". (And yes, the Vipers did go to the IS, but they claimed they were safe b/c they only had contact with planets the Falcons had taken and Tukayyid). In theory it would roll back all genetics to the point where it hadn't made contact with the IS (but not necessarily all the way back to the line's founders).

Quote from: rebs on 11 March 2014, 18:44:18

They could, but the ones who hold the power due to the Trial of Absorption is the Star Adders, and I would bet they will do no such thing. I know the Adders like to think reasonably most of the time, but I would not be surprised if they held a grudge forever against the Blood Spirits and never revived any of their lines.

They held the rights, but the same thing happened with the Jaguars and Clan Mongoose. The Jaguars didn't want the legacies, but other Clans eventually claimed some (if not all). So it's possible the Adders don't use them, but someone else does.

StCptMara · « **Reply #742 on:** 12 March 2014, 08:08:35 »

Quote from: wantec on 12 March 2014, 07:22:15

They held the rights, but the same thing happened with the Jaguars and Clan Mongoose. The Jaguars didn't want the legacies, but other Clans eventually claimed some (if not all). So it's possible the Adders don't use them, but someone else does.

Though, if I were the Adders, I would likely NOT allow the Schmitt Bloodname to fall into other hands. Remember that
the Clans believe in symbols. And nothing would be a bigger symbol then keeping the Clan Founder's Legacy exclusive,
though, with all those genetic legacies, they might use the Schmitt themselves, just because of how symbolic it would
be to have that Bloodname in their Clan. It would be a reminder to ALL the Clans what happens to those who oppose
them.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #743 on:** 12 March 2014, 20:42:04 »

The Schmitt Bloodname and Heritage would be used as an example I think, They would order it reaved as an example and destroy every legacy they could get there hands on. Other Blood Spirit heritages would be after a few generations available to trial for but for those who fought the Blood Spirits I could see them moving Heaven and Earth to keep anyone, including there own scientist from resurrecting them. I could even see the Adders hunting down former Blood Spirit mechs and destroying them.

rebs · « **Reply #744 on:** 12 March 2014, 21:20:01 »

Quote from: wantec on 12 March 2014, 07:22:15

They held the rights, but the same thing happened with the Jaguars and Clan Mongoose. The Jaguars didn't want the legacies, but other Clans eventually claimed some (if not all). So it's possible the Adders don't use them, but someone else does.

Quote from: cold1 on 12 March 2014, 06:58:35

$20 says the Adders traded the lines to the Lions. The Lions continue their roll and they and the Adders now vie for control in the homeworlds. Schmitt vs Truscott version 2.0

That's the fighting spirit. ;D

And it would still be the Adders not wanting anything to do with the Spirit genes.

I would expect exceptions, though. Maybe one genetic line here or there. Got to have exceptions to a rule, or it's not interesting. Tolkien knew this, and he passed it down the generations.

Mastergunz · « **Reply #745 on:** 19 March 2014, 14:51:42 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 10 March 2014, 22:29:24

Me? I think there were survivors. I think some got away, there rebuilding, and letting there hate grow and grow. There's is just to much potential for mayhem that a resurgent Clan Blood Spirit could bring.

Hey gang, I felt compelled to seek you guys out and then I stumbled across the above and thought to respond.

I just finished reading 'Blood Avatar' last night in my ongoing quest to read all the DA novels. In the story the character Dani Kodza (an anagram of the Zadok bloodname) spoke like a clanner and was suspected of having ties to the now dead Blood Spirits and some kind of Devlin Stone Guardian Cult. Without reading back through the previous 25 pages of this thread is there any other information regarding this?

Thanks!

-Gunz

Maelwys · « **Reply #746 on:** 19 March 2014, 17:30:35 »

That's about it unfortunately.

tassa_kay · « **Reply #747 on:** 19 March 2014, 21:11:27 »

And the writers themselves have all but poo-pooed the possibility of this being true, as they keep pointing out that a couple of people on some backwater Republic world wouldn't be in a position to have information about this.

I think originally that this might've been something, but CGL has proven lately that they're willing to break with the previously-intended direction of MWDA and cut off loose plot threads entirely, so I doubt we'll ever see anything come of that.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #748 on:** 19 March 2014, 21:42:28 »

Which kind of suck as novels are always considered canon. But its a thread I don't think they will pursue. At most they might say the Zadok Bloodname was taken by another Homeworld Clan but I doubt they will have Clan Blood Spirit survivors in the Inner Sphere doing gods knows what, no matter how cool it would be.

cold1 · « **Reply #749 on:** 20 March 2014, 08:02:21 »

Maybe the Zadok blood name was revived by another homeworld clan...

Now if that person is from the clans, figure out how and why they are in the Republic