Whats your most bad butt Marauder variant?

[OverKill]

Ok, so I discovered Skunkworks and have been playing around with the Marauder.

Since I can't have my shiny precious the way she was (think of something you can't see... it exists but you can't see it... that makes it UNSEEN... nuff said) I've had to accept the fact that it now only looks Half as Sexy. With that said I am trying to design a pretty kick ass loadout that overcomes the heat issues of the dual ER PPC (15 heat? Really?!?!?) combo. I know some folks recommend ER Large Lasers in place of the PPC but there is just something sexy about saying "PPC yo azzzzzzz" to the guy sitting across from you as he stares down the barrels ya know?!?

What have you guys come up with? I was trying to use the 5R or the 5L as possible build chassis. That gauss rifle is pretty cool with a good damage per heat ratio but it's HUGE.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

[Stormcrow]

I have a 3025 variant where I strip out the Ac/5 and replace it with an SRM-6 w/1 ton ammo. I use the remaining tonnage to add one ton of armor and heat sinks.

[CitizenErased]

Lately, I'm in love with the MAD-9M2. Dual headcappers, the heat profile to use them, and a pair of Streak-6es to crit-seek and deal with anyone who tries getting inside your medium range, plus a decent electronics package. Only downsides? No CASE, an XLFE, and the tendency for Streak bins to never empty means you need to usually stay outside the range your Streaks will be useful at. Still, she does a good job doing the Sexy MAD Strut. [rockon]

[Stormfury]

We can't post full designs here.

However, three standard PPCs, 2 Medium Lasers, 6 DHS and 13.5 tons of armour with a 300 standard engine is do-able.

The armour is only 15 points shy of the maximum available, and you can safely walk and deliver 3 PPCs every turn.

If you want to Jump, use Endo Steel and an ER Large in place of the third PPC. That gets you 4 Jump Jets and a Small Laser.

[OverKill]

You are right, I see the Design Area now... thanks for the tip. I'll see if a mod will move this over.

[evilauthor]

I just found out recently that if you take a stock Marauder 3R and downgrade its engine to 3/5 movement, you free up enough tonnage to max out its armor and upgrade the heat sink count to 22 (enough for both PPCs, the AC, and walking). Given that the 3R will slow down to 3/5 just from firing both PPCs and moving, this means the 3/5 Marauder actually has the same combat mobility while being better armored and dishing out more firepower than the 3R.

[mensa12345]

Using 3050 Tech (Level 2), I have a Dual Gauss Rifle version (4 tns of ammo), ER PPC in the Right Torso, and a Small Pulse Laser in the head for anti-infantry work and as a back-up if things get close.  Endo Steel, with 13.5 tons of standard armor.  It moves 4/6 with an XL Engine.  This way it can fire both Gauss, the ER PPC and walk at 0 heat. 

[mensa12345]

We can't post full designs here.

Why not?  I'm still not used to the new layout.

[Arkansas Warrior]

Because the writers browse these forums, and don't want to see our designs, lest they influence future TROs and the 'original designer' want credit.
 
 
 
That said, the 5D is sublime if you just drop the SSRM2 and CASE for more DHS.  Maybe switch the LPL for a third ERPPC.  Or a Blazer(which only allows 1 extra DHS, but still).  }:)

[Snake Eyes]

I've designed one that carried a Blazer Cannon in each arm along with a Cap-PPC.

[ShadowRaven]

Thre snub-nosed PPCs and a bevy of small pulsers.

or on it's MArauder II big brother, four standard PPCs and a bevy of mediums. MAD 9Q baby [rockon]

[HavocTheWarDog]

I'm a newbie to these threads but I've been playing battletech since 1990, hope you all like my little upgrade of a mad-3r
I realize that my minimums arent covered but theres not too many mechs that can withstand the constant pounding this guy dishes out plus the crit seeking ability of the lac/2 to get inside my min. range

Std IS,
300 eng,
2 HPPCs 
Lac/2 with 1 ton of armor piercing ammo,
16 DHS
11 tons of ferro fibrous armor w/case

...bad boy can run and cap ALL DAY! walk and make you wish your werent on the field !
lemme know what you think.

[Dave Talley]

my 3025 version was simple
use the Laio 2 LL version and swap the AC5 for a 3rd laser and more sinks

edit ooops, make that the Marik version
you end up with 3LL and 24 sinks

[Stormlion1]

I just stick with the MAD-5S, its got the PPC's and the Gauss Rifle, does it need anything else?

[Arkansas Warrior]

Ammo?  Sensible armor layout?

[JPArbiter]

my 3025 swaps out PPCs for large lasers and an AC 10 for the AC 5 to make it more of a brawler with out the heat issues.

modern days I like playing with twin plasma rifles.

[House Davie Merc]

I just found out recently that if you take a stock Marauder 3R and downgrade its engine to 3/5 movement, you free up enough tonnage to max out its armor and upgrade the heat sink count to 22 (enough for both PPCs, the AC, and walking). Given that the 3R will slow down to 3/5 just from firing both PPCs and moving, this means the 3/5 Marauder actually has the same combat mobility while being better armored and dishing out more firepower than the 3R.

I saw that the very first game I played when it came out of a box
labeled "Battledroids " .      ;D

Before there even was a MAD-3D and for my second game I made the 3025 variant
that I use to this day when customs are used .
3/5/3 ,Max armor ,22 heat sinks ,2PPCs ,1-Large Laser ,and 3 Medium lasers.

Later on it when the other variants came into existance it seemed to be like a cross
between a level 1 Bounty Hunter MAD and the MAD-3D .

Try it out sometime .
It plays even better then it looks on paper .

[Stormforge]

Put up a custom Marauder in Overkill's Marauder thread here.

http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,2359.0.html

2 Snub-Nose PPC, 2 Light PPC, and an ER PPC, 4/6(8) with MASC, 14 tons of armor, 13 DHS, Standard Fusion Engine, and Endo-Steel.

[Humansquish]

Lately, I'm in love with the MAD-9M2. Dual headcappers, the heat profile to use them, and a pair of Streak-6es to crit-seek and deal with anyone who tries getting inside your medium range, plus a decent electronics package. Only downsides? No CASE, an XLFE, and the tendency for Streak bins to never empty means you need to usually stay outside the range your Streaks will be useful at. Still, she does a good job doing the Sexy MAD Strut. [rockon]

+1

[DaveMac]

my 3025 version was simple
use the Laio 2 LL version and swap the AC5 for a 3rd laser and more sinks

edit ooops, make that the Marik version
you end up with 3LL and 24 sinks

You beat me to it matey

[Deadborder]

Bah

Phoenix Marauder > Unseen Marauder any day

(flees)

[Stormcrow]

Better looking and a better 'Mech

(flees in the footsteps of Deadborder)

[OverKill]

Blasphemers!!! (eyes shoot laser beams across the crowd) You better  [notworthy] and accept that the original Robotech... I mean Battletech.... Marauder is where it is!!!  [rockon]  [tickedoff]

[Stormcrow]

Not gonna happen. Though of my eleven Maruaders, four of them are Unseens

[Diamondshark]

Honestly, I prefer the Phoenix Marauder as well, I can't really put my finger on it, but it seems better-looking.  Then again, I'm still a relatively new player, so I don't really have the nostalgia factor working on me like the 1st gen players.

That being said, the MAD-9M2 is my favorite as well.  Two of my favorite energy weapon, and two of my favorite missile weapon.  Yes please.

[Onisuzume]

For Succession War, either of these, depending on what's more important (range/armour or damage):

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75T, 4/6/0, Std FE, Std; 11.5T Armor; 23 SHS; 3 ML, 3 LL; BV: 1.403; Cost: 6.328.000

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75T, 4/6/0, Std FE, Std; 13.5T Armor; 22 SHS; 3 ML, 2 PPC; BV: 1.505; Cost: 6.534.500Or post 3058 (4 tons of ammo):

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75T, 4/6/0, Std FE, Std; 11.5T Armor; 12 DHS; 6 MRM10, 1 C3S, 1 LL; BV: 1.400; Cost: 6.986.000Yeah, feel free to laugh, but this'll kick your arse far better than the two I posted above.
Jihad upgrade (also adds Apollo FCS and has 6 tons of ammo):

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75T, 4/6/0, XLFE, Std; 11.5T Armor; 12 DHS; 1 ECM, 6 MRM10, 1 C3S, 1 LL; BV: 1.330; Cost: 16.523.500

[Peter Smith]

What have you guys come up with?

MAD-7D

[majesticmoose]

I think I threw on an LFE and did 4 LPPC's and 4 LAC5's.  It has an odd capacity to chew through armor, and you can vary weapons fire to allow for heat management.

It was fun.

Also, replace the PPC's with PR and you get some fun results.

[OverKill]

I like the weapon pods of the old marauder arms. The 5R from IWM looks like it would be cool to order today but the Phoenix one has the same style weapon pods as the IIC :(

[JPArbiter]

Honestly, I prefer the Phoenix Marauder as well, I can't really put my finger on it, but it seems better-looking. 

for me the Phoenix Marauder looks better because it does not look like a Male Haploid cell on legs

[majesticmoose]

I guess I just love the classic look of the unseen MAD.  It's more organic, something that was lost to BT along the way, and yet strangley alien, fitting it's origin.

The Pheonix MAD has a nice style, but it's nothing I haven't seen before.  It kinda reminds me of some anemic Mad Dog/Vulture, or a clunky franken mech...I don't know why...

The Unseen MAD just has that uniquness to it, a style.  And say what you want about "hard science" designs and BT aesthetic, I don't think style is bad.

[Diamondshark]

Although as I've already said, I prefer the Phoenix look, I have to agree with you that there's also just something special about the Unseen.  How about we say that either way, it's a darned awesome beast?

[Deadborder]

for me the Phoenix Marauder looks better because it does not look like a Male Haploid cell on legs

This!

I like the Phoenix Maruader for the asthetics of it. Simply put, it looks like it fits with the rest of the universe, both thematically and stylisticly. It looks like a Battlemech, not an alien space bug. Now don't get my wrong; the Offler's Pod does look cool, but it doesn't fit with the Battletech universe.

[Rorke]

Because the writers browse these forums, and don't want to see our designs, lest they influence future TROs and the 'original designer' want credit.
 
 
 
That said, the 5D is sublime if you just drop the SSRM2 and CASE for more DHS.  Maybe switch the LPL for a third ERPPC.  Or a Blazer(which only allows 1 extra DHS, but still).  }:)

S'how i used to reboot my 5D's back in the 50s.  That thing would mince lighter clan omnis quite merrily, but then usually i ran a lance of 2 of them with a Mad S and a Caesar. 

[Baldur Mekorig]

 The only Phoenix Marauder i have in front of me was the first one, the Liao variant, and sorry, but that thing is not a Marauder, it is like a famelic flamingo with arms. I prefer the classic Marauder, the old Marauder IIC or the new Marauder IIC.

 Back in topic, i have to vote for the -9M2. That thing is a beast.

[Wanderer]

Not so much a bad *ahem* butt version, but a common enough 3025-era mod was a simple one.

Replace the AC/5 with an AC/2, then move the ammo over and add two heat sinks where the AC/5 took up four crits. The original MAD was actually statted before the AC/2 existed, mind you. :)

The AC became rather handy for chewing up softer targets like tanks at ranges most opponents couldn't reach, then once it was crippled the Marauder would swoop in and gut it with PPC fire. The two sinks meant you could also go PPC/ML/ML up closer without heat issues, and with everything tucked into the same torso, no more ammo-go-boom automatically if crits happen.

[Sellsword]

I took a 3025 Marauder & in 3050 tech, changed out the AC for another PPC for 3 total, added Ferro Fiber & Double heat sinks.  Simple & Effective.

I don't have my books in front of me but you could probably add a Light engine, endo, dorsal Heavy PPC, max out the the armor, change the medium lasers to ER, bump the heatsinks up and you'd be good to go.

[Akalabeth]

I've never really modded the marauder.
So I'd have to say that my baddest Marauder variant would the original Marauder IIC. 3 ER PPCs, 4 ER SL. What's not to like?


Or if that's cheating, I too will go with the Marauder 5S.

[Akalabeth]

Before someone else jumps in Blacksheep.
You're supposed to restrict your designs to the design forum. Because writers peruse this forum but not the other one and TPTB want to avoid anyone saying "that's my design, give me credit" sort of thing or something along those lines. Anyway, someone with actual authority will come and tell you directly.

[OverKill]

http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,2359.msg56401.html#msg56401

This is where you can go to post design ideas etc.

[Charlie Tango]

 [copper]
Gentle reminder from your Moderation staff.

Please post designs in the appropriate Design forum.

Thanks!
/  [copper]

[I am Belch II]

I know I will make people mad at me, but the Marauder 2c!!! Its rebuilt form a Marauder...and it hasn't been completely butchered in the new artwork in the Project Pheonix!

[Onisuzume]

Oh really?
Link.
Link.
Even the original is a bit... meh...
Alright, one that looks sort-of okay.

[Dave Talley]

dont dash the boys dreams dude!

[Diamondshark]

Oh really?
Link.
Link.
Even the original is a bit... meh...
Alright, one that looks sort-of okay.

I actually kind of like the top one, maybe it's just me though.

[Fear Factory]

I like taking the 3R and putting on 2 AC/5's, 1 PPC and 2 medium lasers to make all the AC haters cry.

[Stormforge]

I like taking the 3R and putting on 2 AC/5's, 1 PPC and 2 medium lasers to make all the AC haters cry.

Interesting design drop 2-3 HS and give it 2-3 tons of ammo for specialty munitions.

[ShadowRaven]

eh, the art isn't great, but the Marauder IIC PP mini is a darn sexy beast.

[BigRoy]

My own 5R uses Double heat sinks and FF armor. Drop the AC/5 and replace it with a Large laser. Frees up enough tonnage for Max armor and jump jets. a small laser in the head rounds out the tonnage. Runs hot, but it's manageable if the pilot is at all competent. One of my buddies loves Marauders ta death. I'm gonna put this on the table for him this weekend and enjoy the havoc.

[LastChanceCav]

Here's a Jihad era MAD that mounts 2 PPCs and 1 HPPCs and the DHS to use them at the cost of using an LFE.

Cheers,
LCC

[Sartris]

for me the Phoenix Marauder looks better because it does not look like a Male Haploid cell on legs

I see what you did there  :D

I also prefer the Phoenix Marauder.  With a few exceptions, I actually like a majority of the phoenix designs over the originals.

[Ruger]

You know...for the 75 ton Marauder, I'm going to have to say either the Bounty Hunter's versions or I will be biased and say the Marauder-9S...

Ruger

[Demon55]

I took the MAD-5D and dropped the SSRM2 and its ammo.  Put in an AMS and 1 ton of ammo for it.  I also added a small pulse laser to the center torso.

[Ruger]

Reminder: Personal designs are to be posted in the appropriate fan design forum. Please do not post designs (or give extensive descriptions) of personal designs outside those forums.

Thank you,

Ruger

[Ice_Trey]

I've never really bothered tinkering much with the customization system. It used to be the coolest thing ever, to me, but after my bad experiences online with facing custom jump-sniping gladiators in Mechwarrior 4, I came to realize that customization just gives a way for min-maxers to try to break the game before they even come to the table. The customization system turns me off for everything but campaign style play (Granted it's on a case-by-case basis), and I have yet to have ever played any campaigns outside of Mekwars servers.

But as far as the Marauder goes, I'd always been fond of the Marik variant. The use of Large Lasers helps the design to run a bit cooler, the range difference, negligible, and the lack of a minimum range means it doesn't die in those inevitable short-ranged brawls most of my games turn into.

[Looter]

I have to say my favorite is the Bounty Hunter's/Natasha Kerensky's monster.  3 PPC's 5 ML's Enough Heat sinks to use them with a full load of armor and standard engine scaled back to make it a 3/5/3 movement profile.

[Thatguybil]

 4 LPPC + HPPC with cap
SFE
16 dshs
12 tons HFF armor

Love it

[BirdofPrey]

Running a C3 merc company for a campaign the local demo agent is running, and I was thinking of taking the 9W2 variant and swapping the PPC and ECM for a couple of SRMs.

[Cybra]

This is my 3079 MAD-II variant.

http://solaris7.com/TRO/HTMLBattleMech/BattlemechInfo.asp?ID=14961

As explained in the fluff, if you convert to clan tech, you can add a 2nd GR.

Quick question, can anyone tell me why i mounted LPLs instead of other, suggested, weapons?

[Sabelkatten]

I still claim it's a Marauder variant, thought most others disagreed when I posted it... ::)

A somewhat Mad Cat-ish variant with RAC/5s in the arms, a dorsal ERLL and twin MML3s on each shoulder. It can run a bit hot, the armor isn't all it could be, than ammo is rather short, and the RACs jam way to often - but it dishes out 56 damage at short range on average. [rockon]

[BirdofPrey]

Quick question, can anyone tell me why i mounted LPLs instead of other, suggested, weapons?

Better damage at range?