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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #30 on: 18 October 2023, 12:17:12 »
I think it would be 8 Handlers per 28 man platoon as they replace support weapons which can only be 2 to a squad.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #31 on: 18 October 2023, 12:50:18 »
What about the variables?

We know infantry can go to 10 per Squad with 30 max per Platoon. Anything else needs to be divided into more sub-units.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #32 on: 18 October 2023, 16:58:55 »
Thanks Herb!

A 30-trooper platoon in 3 squads of 10 would only have 6 Support Weapons or K9s...

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #33 on: 18 October 2023, 18:37:19 »
So can a Orca equipped SCUBA (Mech) Platoon be advisable?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #34 on: 18 October 2023, 18:39:24 »
That depends entirely on context... ;)

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #35 on: 18 October 2023, 19:25:28 »
So can a Orca equipped SCUBA (Mech) Platoon be advisable?

Aquamen! The elite infantry of the merfolk!

It is, however, a problem, as only conventional foot infantry types can use K9s, and with orcas, you have yourself a beast-mounted submersible naval platoon there. Mechanized, jump, or other non-foot troops are not valid K9 unit choices as it's too easy for the li'l beasties to become separated from their masters in the heat of battle. (We may have left the wording vague enough somewhere to "treat beast mounts as foot infantry" somewhere, though. But such does not appear to be in the rulebooks I have on hand.)

- Herb

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #36 on: 18 October 2023, 19:40:41 »
So that means no Greater or Lesser Branth Patrols either?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #37 on: 18 October 2023, 19:43:55 »
Also you really should put that Katzilla of yours I'm the California Nebula as well as XTC Infantry...

SturmTroopers and Citizens Republica need their XTC troops.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #38 on: 19 November 2023, 02:36:49 »
Is there a Support weapon cost for K9 ?
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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #39 on: 19 November 2023, 07:33:37 »
Is there a Support weapon cost for K9 ?

Each K9 in a squad costs the squad a Support Weapon slot.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #40 on: 19 November 2023, 07:53:32 »
Since it took me WAY too long to find this morning, the K9 rules are on page 135 of the AToW Companion.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #41 on: 19 November 2023, 18:43:46 »
Is there a Support weapon cost for K9 ?
Each K9 in a squad costs the squad a Support Weapon slot.

- Herb

Is there a monetary cost?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #42 on: 19 November 2023, 18:48:00 »
I think you're supposed to use the cost for Beast Mounted Infantry, which is in TO:AUE...

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #43 on: 19 November 2023, 19:02:25 »
Pm me, don't own that book.

Unless you want to pop it here...

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #44 on: 19 November 2023, 19:34:24 »
It's in the OG TacOps too... do you have that?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #45 on: 19 November 2023, 19:39:27 »
Yes, that and IO...

I'll check later, thanks!

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #46 on: 19 November 2023, 19:41:46 »
If you can't find it, I have the OG version somewhere and can dig up the page reference.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #47 on: 19 November 2023, 21:42:13 »
I think you're supposed to use the cost for Beast Mounted Infantry, which is in TO:AUE...

I think that might be too much. There's only 2 K9s per squad compared to 1 riding animal per squad member. Unfortunately, I'm not finding costs for individual animals.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #48 on: 20 November 2023, 04:10:16 »
I'm thinking it's not enough, actually.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #49 on: 20 November 2023, 08:09:19 »
I think that might be too much. There's only 2 K9s per squad compared to 1 riding animal per squad member. Unfortunately, I'm not finding costs for individual animals.

You know, I don't think we ever, even once, considered giving animals a C-bill cost...

- Herb

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #50 on: 20 November 2023, 12:37:48 »
Should give it a C-Bill times BV factor...

Like 15per value point, making it expensive but worth it.

Just wanted to know if there was one, if any.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #51 on: 21 November 2023, 12:46:17 »
I'm thinking it's not enough, actually.

I'd go as much as low to medium cost support weapon for each K9 to reflect training but not as much as a whole platoon of riding animals.


You know, I don't think we ever, even once, considered giving animals a C-bill cost...

- Herb

That doesn't really surprise me. We don't know how beast mounted infantry are transported, or how much life support animals take either.

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #52 on: 15 December 2023, 16:41:37 »
K-9 Personal favorite dinner of the Branth Infantry.  :evil:
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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #53 on: 15 December 2023, 17:06:18 »
So we've decided that animals just count as emergency rations for c-bill and cargo purposes?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #54 on: 15 December 2023, 17:23:07 »
So we've decided that animals just count as emergency rations for c-bill and cargo purposes?

I mean an Branth has to eat right?

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Re: Do we have any stats officially for K9 Infantry?
« Reply #55 on: 19 December 2023, 12:53:57 »
Once you've tried Branth, Triple -F just isn't good enough anymore.

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