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As it says - the Hetzer SRM variant with 5x SRM6, the LRM with 2x LRM-15, or the Laser with 4x ML. Who's used them, do they earn their keep BV wise?

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #1 on: 11 February 2011, 17:02:14 »
nowhere near as well as the classic AC20 variant in my experience.

the Hunter does a better job at light LRM work, and as far as the SRM variant, if you are going to go big, go all the way with an SRM carrier.

the laser one interests me, but the Sabuku Kaze's Turret will be more effective, or if you insist on cheaper, the harasser laser variant.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #2 on: 11 February 2011, 17:52:40 »
There's an LRM variant of the Hetzer with 2 LRM-15s  ???

Is this a canon variant and if so where is it from and from what era ?
(I'm mostly a 3025 era player )

I've never heard of these and I'm known for using uncommon and rare canon
variants of vehicles .

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #3 on: 11 February 2011, 17:57:31 »


AC/20 all the way.


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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #5 on: 11 February 2011, 20:21:15 »
Like the original.  everything else is just not as good.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #6 on: 11 February 2011, 20:33:22 »
Like the original.  everything else is just not as good.

Not even the LB-X variant?
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #7 on: 11 February 2011, 20:37:13 »
Why not a HGR version?  :D :D :D

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #8 on: 11 February 2011, 20:43:05 »
There's an LRM variant of the Hetzer with 2 LRM-15s  ???

Is this a canon variant and if so where is it from and from what era ?
(I'm mostly a 3025 era player )

I've never heard of these and I'm known for using uncommon and rare canon
variants of vehicles .
If there is I'm thinking it just appeared in TRO3039 because I've never heard of them either.
Not that I look to the Hetzer very often for anything.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2011, 21:08:19 »
Why not a HGR version?  :D :D :D

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #10 on: 11 February 2011, 21:21:45 »
I like the way you think.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #11 on: 11 February 2011, 21:24:05 »
Why not a HGR version?  :D :D :D

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Doesn't an HGR need fusion power?  A GR version would be scary though...

I didn't even know about the 2-LRM version though...actually sounds interesting, a good compliment to Light SRM carriers and Classic Hetzers
Saying that because the equipment isn't up-to-the-minute, bleeding-edge tech therefore not a threat is like saying an M2 Browning isn't dangerous to modern infantry because it is 100 years old.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #12 on: 12 February 2011, 00:11:31 »
Doesn't an HGR need fusion power?  A GR version would be scary though...
No, HGR is ballistic, no FE needed.
There might be a Gauss version in canon, I thought I'd seen one anyway.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #13 on: 12 February 2011, 00:47:34 »
No, HGR is ballistic, no FE needed.
There might be a Gauss version in canon, I thought I'd seen one anyway.

Yes, you need a fusion engine (TM p.219):
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #14 on: 12 February 2011, 01:13:50 »
Depending on the year, the other variants already have different vehicle that does similar job.  Boomstick version never goes out of style.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #15 on: 12 February 2011, 02:12:34 »
There's a RAC version in TRO 3085.  Doesn't say which RAC, but I can't see it being the 2.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #16 on: 12 February 2011, 02:21:05 »
It mounts a RAC 5.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #17 on: 13 February 2011, 03:32:53 »
Brilliant!

Thanks, but it's not my joke. Thank the World of Tanks forum, but I thought it would be appropriate here.

I would so go for an HGR Hetzer, but not if you needed an XL to cram it in, those are just too expensive.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #18 on: 13 February 2011, 13:22:21 »
Not that I look to the Hetzer very often for anything.

if you need an AC 20 to ambush something in a vcity on the cheap, there is nothing like it.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #19 on: 14 February 2011, 16:28:50 »
Yes, you need a fusion engine (TM p.219):
Well I'll be.  Thanks for the info, I did not know that.  What an annoying exception to the rules.


if you need an AC 20 to ambush something in a vcity on the cheap, there is nothing like it.
If by cheap you mean C-Bills, then I agree, its a great deal for the cost $$.
By BV, I think I would still find myself going with my more urban combo of Demolisher + SRM Carrier.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #20 on: 14 February 2011, 18:20:44 »
The Hetzer is valuable for what it is , a cheap both c bills or BV way to bring an AC 20 on the field. Using hidden rules or in a city it is useful.

For anything else, other things do the job better. SRM or LRM carriers do their jobs better, any number of tanks do the large lasers job better.
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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #21 on: 19 February 2011, 19:48:03 »
Thanks to one of the players in my area, I have been beaten up by nearly all the canon variants of the Hetzer (stalwart Liao player).  Do have to admit that I enjoy it though.  It is a vehicle that really gives battletech that OGRE level of fun.  It and the Scorpion and Vedette... those three are a blast to go up against.

Stock is always scary in areas where they can hide or corral mechs into cross fires.

The medium laser boat really can ruin a day when running like a pack of piranhas, especially in succession war play.

The LRM boat really makes my day miserable sometimes, especially if he getting spotters from a more standard stock model.

The SRM boat... never works out well except when he is going up against a vehicle force.   This might be the luck of the player but it is his least favorite cheap box on wheels.

The LBX version.  This is a bane and I enjoy the challenge of going up against one.  Really keeps my VTOL and infantry heavy units at bay.

Haven't seen him drive the WoB Protectorate variant... since I do most of the WoB unit driving and I am not a fan of the Hetzer (prefer hover, VTOL, and tracked with all fairness).  Perhaps I should pull them out and fire at him for a change.  Might be fun, despite not liking RACs much.

Now, there has been a whole slew of custom variants over the years... but those amount to not much to pretty good... depending on the luck and the map that day.  But the end result comes down to this... its a good tank for the price and for its role...  it comes down to this, if you know how to drive and the tactics behind Assault Guns in most historicals, you can drive the Hetzer.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #22 on: 20 February 2011, 14:43:37 »
I actually like one SRM-pattern Hetzer to every three standards.

They're very good for saturating any holes in a target, and they're also aces for tank killers where a single AC/20 round may just end up denting armor, but 20 SRM's can leave that heavy tank spinning on broken treads or with a locked turret while you wheel away.

The LRM-pattern one isn't bad as a cheap barrage vehicle, but you can do better.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #23 on: 24 February 2011, 12:05:50 »
A pair formation of the LB-X one can really ruin someones day.
Have been tempted by the SRM One for a while now. But have just never gotten around to using it.

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Re: Your experience with the Hetzer variants - LRM, SRM and Laser
« Reply #24 on: 25 February 2011, 13:37:16 »
Personal effectiveness has me using 2 LB, a SRM and a Laser variant per Lance with 2 Lances and 2 LRM, an LB and another Laser to round out a Company.

Thats if I am playing other than Marik, of which I throw on a Standard to each Lance using special rounds.

I have been meaning to try the RAC version for my custom Level III Jhiad Comstar unit I run. Looks downright fun, combining them with my LRM / Galleon 103 -104 series force. I use the HGR Demon, so either a trade for one or both... probable just one.

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