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BattleTech Game Systems => General BattleTech Discussion => Topic started by: 00Dawg on 02 December 2020, 17:05:20
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It's here.
After many, many hours of hard work, and years of your patience, a new CSO site is coming online now. We built it with one main goal: provide all the same types of scheme information and miniatures we have in the past, and be fast enough to use all the time.
Please know that there are a few changes still in progress, but we didn't want to wait any longer. As the DNS changes spread across the world, we hope this will be a day long remembered, and remembered fondly.
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Looks nice.
I can't get the cookie permissions dialog to close though
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Nice.
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Looks as if there are some issues on mobile with elements overlapping. This screenshot is from my iPad in landscape mode
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Have you considered putting a link to it somewhere in the thread?
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Have you considered putting a link to it somewhere in the thread?
It's https://camospecs.com (https://camospecs.com).
Keep in mind DNS changeovers can take a while to propagate, and we're working to remove what is essentially a redirect at the moment.
I'll also be keeping an eye on this thread for issues (like the two already mentioned) to see what we can do.
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I can't get the cookie permissions dialog to close though
Is it reloading on every page, or just not going away when you click Accept?
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Is it reloading on every page, or just not going away when you click Accept?
I don't see an Accept button. It shows on every page with the text, two options and a Close control that doesn't do anything.
No button to accept the cookie settings.
When I do a search I can't find the text 'Accept' on the page at all so its not even that it is hidden somehow
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It also looks like allof the old URLs are broken. Was there no way to add a mod rewrite setting in Apache to rewrite the old URLs?
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I don't see an Accept button. It shows on every page with the text, two options and a Close control that doesn't do anything.
No button to accept the cookie settings.
When I do a search I can't find the text 'Accept' on the page at all so its not even that it is hidden somehow
Hmmm....I'll try to research that one.
It also looks like allof the old URLs are broken. Was there no way to add a mod rewrite setting in Apache to rewrite the old URLs?
Not quite sure what you mean by the old URLs? This new site was built from the ground up in WordPress.
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:bow:
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... and a ton of others!
Need any help with some data entry/grunt work? I find myself with a little more free time than I'd like these days.
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Looks as if there are some issues on mobile with elements overlapping. This screenshot is from my iPad in landscape mode
I haven't been able to repeat this one yet. My mobile device has all the Unit logos in one column. Which device are you viewing the site in?
Thanks!
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It loaded smoothly for me. Everything was zippy and responsive. Huzzah!
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Not quite sure what you mean by the old URLs? This new site was built from the ground up in WordPress.
The old website. If anyone had any old URLs then they are currently all 404.
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I haven't been able to repeat this one yet. My mobile device has all the Unit logos in one column. Which device are you viewing the site in?
An iPad Pro 10.5"
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Yay!
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The old website. If anyone had any old URLs then they are currently all 404.
I'm following you now. No, sorry, we literally had to start over from scratch due to the code the previous version was written in; we just couldn't find any resources that could work in that language. I really wish we had been able to do a conversion.
An iPad Pro 10.5"
Roger that. I should have access to something similar. Will give it a go. Thanks!
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Looks good on my phone! :thumbsup:
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Looks good on my phone! :thumbsup:
Speaking of which. On my iPhone the spacing between elements in the faction menu and the individual faction elements are such that it is difficult to see what label is attached to what image
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Roger that. I should have access to something similar. Will give it a go. Thanks!
What browser are you using? The dev tools in Firefox and Chrome will let you set the viewport size when viewing a page
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Great job! The new site loads easily, looks good on the phone, and those new pages about standard House paint schemes is really useful!! However, the link to standard Free Worlds Schemes (if there is such a thing, then purple? - Free Worlds Guards, Marik Militia?) is broken.
S.gage
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The site looks amazing! :thumbsup:
One constructive criticism though... the suggested colors for the House color pages (and as the above poster mentioned, the Marik one is broken) are citing the old, out-of-print Citadel paint colors instead of their new shades. Someone looking for Red Gore or Blood Red at the Citadel rack is going to be a mite confused...
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I'm following you now. No, sorry, we literally had to start over from scratch due to the code the previous version was written in; we just couldn't find any resources that could work in that language. I really wish we had been able to do a conversion.
If you don't mind me asking, what was the old site written in?
The site looks great, much more responsive than the older one.
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The site looks amazing! :thumbsup:
One constructive criticism though... the suggested colors for the House color pages (and as the above poster mentioned, the Marik one is broken) are citing the old, out-of-print Citadel paint colors instead of their new shades. Someone looking for Red Gore or Blood Red at the Citadel rack is going to be a mite confused...
Yeah, I did not think about that, since I am still using those colors lol
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I haven't been able to repeat this one yet. My mobile device has all the Unit logos in one column. Which device are you viewing the site in?
Thanks!
My iPhone had all the categories separated, but on my iPad they overlap a small amount as well
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Well, this is a pleasant surprise.
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The site looks amazing! :thumbsup:
One constructive criticism though... the suggested colors for the House color pages (and as the above poster mentioned, the Marik one is broken) are citing the old, out-of-print Citadel paint colors instead of their new shades. Someone looking for Red Gore or Blood Red at the Citadel rack is going to be a mite confused...
And to add to this, since several of the YouTube Tutorials are already using Citadels Contrast Paint range, I would appreciate if you could add such reccomended shades for the house colors too
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There are a lot of conversion tables conspiring the range of several manufacturers. Maybe use those for an ease to convert scheme? It might be a disclaimer in the paint guides like "These miniatures were painted and reference the 200 Citadel Paints If you are using other paint ranges you can find a conversion to your paints in this link".
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Excellent work, the old site was the internet explorer of battletech and if you opened an image, you'd still be opening it now :s But this one is WAY better laid out and far far faster! Great work on this!
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One thing I will say, is that when I opened it on Chrome I got a security certificate warning, I assume that's still being processed?
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Update this morning:
1. I think I know what's happening on iPad overlap. Fixing it is not simple, so I'll add it to our long-term list.
2. For the moment, the iPhone vertical display is something we'll have to live with. We'll try to help mitigate by continuing to add to our individual Unit logos so you can tell what you're clicking on. In essence this is a UI problem caused by a lack-of-data problem.
3. Good catch on the retired paint colors. I'll ask the guys on our end to come up with the equivalent replacements.
4. If you're getting a certificate warning, please make sure you're on HTTPS and then let me know if it's still happening. I hit it myself yesterday with an old browser link trying to hit HTTP.
5. We may have a cookie issue with users being asked to accept multiple times. We're investigating.
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Borrowing directly from the site, I am grateful & most sincerely extend my heartfelt thanks to ALL the CamoSpecs Artists, both Past and Present.
And because the site thanks these folks specifically, so shall I.
Shawn Hansen
Andrew Krull
Robin Ward
Jeremy Weyand
Billy Caldwell
Jan Prowell
Mark Havener
Joseph Muniz Jr.
Brent Stanton
Paul Sjardijn
Joshua Franklin
John Haward
:thumbsup: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH! :thumbsup:
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5. We may have a cookie issue with users being asked to accept multiple times. We're investigating.
So I tested the site on my Mac and it appears that part of the problem is that the cookie dialog isn't rendering correctly on mobile.
I've attached a copy of a screenshot from my Mac. The misalignment issue on my iPad also appears on the Mac.
As well, it appears that the logos aren't aligning correctly.
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So I tested the site on my Mac and it appears that part of the problem is that the cookie dialog isn't rendering correctly on mobile.
I've attached a copy of a screenshot from my Mac. The misalignment issue on my iPad also appears on the Mac.
As well, it appears that the logos aren't aligning correctly.
The logo alignment is likely the same cause as #1 in the list I posted. It appears to be a defect in the widget that handles template alignment (you have to use a certain layout). I think we have a workaround, but it will take a while to get it implemented everywhere. The Factions page was the first to get it.
Thanks for the info on the cookie as well.
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Just saw that the images in the weathering tutorial are really small. so small that the article is effectively pure text. The images are too small to appreciate anything, and they cannot be opened. Cpuld they be mafde bigger?
In general i find the fact that the units are referenced by their unit logo very counterintuitive. When I do paint scheme research I do not search for unit logos, but by paint schemes. As such, having to enter each article to check on the paint scheme is a killer for me. The non-canonical unit color comprendium webpage is useful as a reference page precisely because it does that: I can look at dozens of color schemes of a faction without having to enter dozens of sub-pages. Wouldn't it be better for Cammospecs to do something similar? If units would have a small image of a mech painted in the unit colors instead of the unit logo in the starting page it would be way m ore useful as a research and painting tool. the unit logo is extremely secondary when looking at a paint scheme and can be inside the unit's page. Otherwise Cammospecs runs the risk of being a secondary secondary source for painting, once you have already selected a unit, but not THE paint scheme/research page it is supposed to be despite its canonicity.
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Just saw that the images in the weathering tutorial are really small. so small that the article is effectively pure text. The images are too small to appreciate anything, and they cannot be opened. Cpuld they be mafde bigger?
Checking.
In general i find the fact that the units are referenced by their unit logo very counterintuitive. When I do paint scheme research I do not search for unit logos, but by paint schemes. As such, having to enter each article to check on the paint scheme is a killer for me. The non-canonical unit color comprendium webpage is useful as a reference page precisely because it does that: I can look at dozens of color schemes of a faction without having to enter dozens of sub-pages. Wouldn't it be better for Cammospecs to do something similar? If units would have a small image of a mech painted in the unit colors instead of the unit logo in the starting page it would be way m ore useful as a research and painting tool. the unit logo is extremely secondary when looking at a paint scheme and can be inside the unit's page. Otherwise Cammospecs runs the risk of being a secondary secondary source for painting, once you have already selected a unit, but not THE paint scheme/research page it is supposed to be despite its canonicity.
We realize there are some artists out there who want to use the site for inspiration on what to paint, and not for reference. The 2nd generation of the CSO site (this is the 3rd) had some technology that helped with that, covering both the logo and some thumbnails of painted minis for the unit on a series of summary pages. Unfortunately, we weren't able to duplicate that feature, but I'll put researching an alternative on the to-do list.
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Just saw that the images in the weathering tutorial are really small. so small that the article is effectively pure text. The images are too small to appreciate anything, and they cannot be opened. Cpuld they be mafde bigger?
Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out.
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House Karosas's entry appears to have an extra U in the name for Karousas, and there is a typo in the colors, rey for red.
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House Karosas's entry appears to have an extra U in the name for Karousas, and there is a typo in the colors, rey for red.
Nice catches. Should all be fixed.
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Thanks for the info on the cookie as well.
It might be a case of the CSS for the cookie dialog not being accessible from the viewport settings in the CSS file
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The logo alignment is likely the same cause as #1 in the list I posted. It appears to be a defect in the widget that handles template alignment (you have to use a certain layout). I think we have a workaround, but it will take a while to get it implemented everywhere. The Factions page was the first to get it.
Thanks for the info on the cookie as well.
I don't know if this information is helpful, but I do not see the alignment issue using Firefox 82.0.2 on MacOS 10.14.6.
I do see it with Safari 14.0.1 and Chrome 87.0.4280 on the same machine.
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Can the SLDF fleet scheme be added as an entry to the SLDF section? Also was the unique world construction color mentioned in the scheme ever elaborated on in any publication?
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I don't know if this information is helpful, but I do not see the alignment issue using Firefox 82.0.2 on MacOS 10.14.6.
I do see it with Safari 14.0.1 and Chrome 87.0.4280 on the same machine.
I assume that if you extend the width of your Safari and Chrome windows that the problem may go away
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Can the SLDF fleet scheme be added as an entry to the SLDF section? Also was the unique world construction color mentioned in the scheme ever elaborated on in any publication?
So far, the short answer to this appears to be "wouldn't do much good". Some quick checking says that only one construction color has been shown/listed in canon, and the ship class depicted was potentially built on three different worlds. We are attempting to get some wheels turning to see if we can rectify this.
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3. Good catch on the retired paint colors. I'll ask the guys on our end to come up with the equivalent replacements.
Paint colors have been updated.
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Site looks great and works great. Are there plans to add the ability to sort by unit, or do you have to just use the search? I know the 2.0 site had it, just wasn't sure if it was coming back.
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Site looks great and works great. Are there plans to add the ability to sort by unit, or do you have to just use the search? I know the 2.0 site had it, just wasn't sure if it was coming back.
Can you expound a little on what you mean?
We have the Units listed under the parent Faction (plus the search, of course), but I don't recall anything sortable. I may have forgotten something.
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Might be looking for the mini listing. Old site had tabs for factions and minis. You could cruise the faction list, or the miniature list.
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Yeah, sorry for the late response, I just messed up and said "unit" instead of "model". I meant being able to browse by mech/vehicle.
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2ND CHISHOM'S RAIDERS RCT are missing a L, should be CHISHOLM'S
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Is there any chance to expand the list of recently added minis (the eight on the right side on the main page)? Like listing or sorting minis by date? Showing only eight, it is easy to miss new additions.
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Yeah, sorry for the late response, I just messed up and said "unit" instead of "model". I meant being able to browse by mech/vehicle.
You've got a couple of options in the new site for something similar. One is the search bar, for instance, searching for King Crab.
The other is to click on a Mini of the type you want, then the IWM tab, then the Title, for instance, King Crab KGC-000. That will give you all the examples we have that match that miniature.
If you're looking to browse every 'Mech or every vehicle or every Aerospace fighter, I'm afraid we don't have that broad of a category available for browsing.
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If you're looking to browse every 'Mech or every vehicle or every Aerospace fighter, I'm afraid we don't have that broad of a category available for browsing.
That is what tags are for in Wordpess. You can markup a post with any number of tags and tags are able to be browsed.
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2ND CHISHOM'S RAIDERS RCT are missing a L, should be CHISHOLM'S
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Is there any chance to expand the list of recently added minis (the eight on the right side on the main page)? Like listing or sorting minis by date? Showing only eight, it is easy to miss new additions.
#1 is fixed, thanks!
On #2, not at the moment. If it helps, we've gone back to the Wednesday release schedule as much as we can, with ~4 new minis showing up every Wednesday.
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That is what tags are for in Wordpess. You can markup a post with any number of tags and tags are able to be browsed.
We're using tags. We just see limited benefit from sorting 5,000+ minis into 6 or so broad categories and tagging them with those.
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I've got a question on the search function for some of the OmniMechs with both a Clan and Inner Sphere designation. Previous they were listed on the site with both names, e.g. Dragonfly (Viper). Since the relaunch the 'mechs have posted with just the Clan designation. The search function doesn't seem to be bringing up these 'mechs when using the Inner Sphere designation (e.g., searching for 'Dragonfly' doesn't seem to bring up Brushido's awesome new Dragonfly (https://camospecs.com/listing/viper/) because it's a Viper ;) ).
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We're using tags. We just see limited benefit from sorting 5,000+ minis into 6 or so broad categories and tagging them with those.
You are using tags and categories interchangeably and they are not the same thing.
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IWM product code for the recent Mongoose 66GX (https://camospecs.com/listing/mongoose-mon-66gx/) should be 20-5163
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You are using tags and categories interchangeably and they are not the same thing.
Sorry, wasn’t referring to the WordPress Categories function here.
We are using the Tag functionality for other pieces (and Categories as well), and we could use it as requested, but it would take a lot of work, and is not currently on our roadmap.
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I've got a question on the search function for some of the OmniMechs with both a Clan and Inner Sphere designation. Previous they were listed on the site with both names, e.g. Dragonfly (Viper). Since the relaunch the 'mechs have posted with just the Clan designation. The search function doesn't seem to be bringing up these 'mechs when using the Inner Sphere designation (e.g., searching for 'Dragonfly' doesn't seem to bring up Brushido's awesome new Dragonfly (https://camospecs.com/listing/viper/) because it's a Viper ;) ).
This is because we try to use Catalyst’s and IWM’s official names as the basis for our naming convention. Catalyst chose to just list the Clan names.
We have a discussion ongoing about this right now with regards to Mechs with multiple sculpts, but I don’t know what the end result will be, or if there will be changes regarding the CGL sculpts.
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So very awesome, nice update.
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This is because we try to use Catalyst’s and IWM’s official names as the basis for our naming convention. Catalyst chose to just list the Clan names.
We have a discussion ongoing about this right now with regards to Mechs with multiple sculpts, but I don’t know what the end result will be, or if there will be changes regarding the CGL sculpts.
Thanks. Maybe a reminder somewhere for those who go looking for Dragonflies instead of Vipers... :thumbsup:
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Is there any chance we could get the Hikage added as a unit to the Draconis Combine roster? Even if there are no units in it, having a reference outside of FM:3145 would be helpful.
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Is there any chance we could get the Hikage added as a unit to the Draconis Combine roster? Even if there are no units in it, having a reference outside of FM:3145 would be helpful.
They have scheme info, so they've been added (and to the Unrepresented Units list for those looking to submit).
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The logo alignment is likely the same cause as #1 in the list I posted. It appears to be a defect in the widget that handles template alignment (you have to use a certain layout). I think we have a workaround, but it will take a while to get it implemented everywhere. The Factions page was the first to get it.
The change to (hopefully) correct alignment has now been made for all Factions. Please let me know if you see anything funny.
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Is there any way to sort by newest minis on-site?
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Is there any way to sort by newest minis on-site?
I'd love to see this. At least the very least, the last few months worth of new additions.
Also, I'm seeing menu problems on the Factions page. The menu on the main page is fine, but the additional icons in the menu buttons on the Factions page aren't showing up in my Duck Duck Go browser. (see attachment)
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There is currently no way to sort by date posted other than the latest 8 showing on the front page.
As to the icons, I managed to get myself to a similar result by rejecting cookies during a test run. Given that Duck Duck Go's search engine is big on privacy, I wonder if the browser may be blocking something. I'll see if we can get that looked at down the road.
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There is currently no way to sort by date posted other than the latest 8 showing on the front page.
As to the icons, I managed to get myself to a similar result by rejecting cookies during a test run. Given that Duck Duck Go's search engine is big on privacy, I wonder if the browser may be blocking something. I'll see if we can get that looked at down the road.
I love seeing the latest 8. Anyway we could get that moved up to the latest 16 if we can't get sort by date?
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As to the icons, I managed to get myself to a similar result by rejecting cookies during a test run. Given that Duck Duck Go's search engine is big on privacy, I wonder if the browser may be blocking something. I'll see if we can get that looked at down the road.
Well, it's working fine today. Don't know that I did anything different.
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I love seeing the latest 8. Anyway we could get that moved up to the latest 16 if we can't get sort by date?
Not without some considerable aesthetic rearranging. We're currently busy behind the scenes working on Era and IWM data as well as expanding the number of covered schemes, and that's going to have the focus for a while.
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I wasn't sure where to put this, so hopefully the right people will see this: the link to the 5th Ghost Regiment incorrectly sends you to the 1st Ghost's page.
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I wasn't sure where to put this, so hopefully the right people will see this: the link to the 5th Ghost Regiment incorrectly sends you to the 1st Ghost's page.
Thank you, we are on it :thumbsup:
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I wasn't sure where to put this, so hopefully the right people will see this: the link to the 5th Ghost Regiment incorrectly sends you to the 1st Ghost's page.
Fixed, thanks!
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Can the Rasalhague Dominion be added as a separate faction to the Factions page, even if it's just a redirect to the CGB page with a note?, whilst Clan Ghost Bear is the military, Rasalhague Dominion is the faction and all other factions are by Faction and not by the factions military name i.e. it's Federated Suns and not AFFS that's shown, this is mostly for consistency between camospecs, the MUL (that does include the Rasalhague Dominion) and the current universe and timeline.
Also i don't know if it's missing because no canon paint scheme but there's no Polar Galaxy listed for the Rasalhague Dominion.
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The Shadow Cat put up by God and Davion is trying to link to a Google map on the page.
https://camospecs.com/listing/shadow-cat-11/ (https://camospecs.com/listing/shadow-cat-11/)
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Some pages display different than others (Chrome for Android).
https://camospecs.com/listing/lu-wei-bing/ has the main image on top.
https://camospecs.com/listing/o-66-hmrv-oppie/ has the main image below the gallery thumbnails.
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The Shadow Cat put up by God and Davion is trying to link to a Google map on the page.
https://camospecs.com/listing/shadow-cat-11/ (https://camospecs.com/listing/shadow-cat-11/)
We got that one fixed.
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Can the Rasalhague Dominion be added as a separate faction to the Factions page, even if it's just a redirect to the CGB page with a note?, whilst Clan Ghost Bear is the military, Rasalhague Dominion is the faction and all other factions are by Faction and not by the factions military name i.e. it's Federated Suns and not AFFS that's shown, this is mostly for consistency between camospecs, the MUL (that does include the Rasalhague Dominion) and the current universe and timeline.
Also i don't know if it's missing because no canon paint scheme but there's no Polar Galaxy listed for the Rasalhague Dominion.
Clan Ghost Bear is present because it was a faction at the time the original CSO site was in use, and we performed a migration. We’ve discussed some similar changes for another Clan-turned-nation, so I’ll surface those one.
Note that the MUL has a different approach to organization which doesn’t quite fit what we’re shooting for.
As for the Polar Galaxy, you are probably correct on why it’s not listed, it I can’t confirm at the moment.
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Irukandji logo goes to a 404 page, but the name bar goes to the proper page
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Out of curiosity, is there anyway to indicate which units have miniatures painted for them? I was going through the Republic of the Sphere faction page, and there are many units listed there, but a great many have no painted minis for them.
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Irukandji logo goes to a 404 page, but the name bar goes to the proper page
Fixed, thanks!
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Out of curiosity, is there anyway to indicate which units have miniatures painted for them? I was going through the Republic of the Sphere faction page, and there are many units listed there, but a great many have no painted minis for them.
I'm afraid not. We do have an effort on our to-do list to remove Units that have no Minis and they're under one brigade where all the Units have the same paint scheme, but it's down the list.
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The site is looking really nice actually! However, just like pixelgeek said, there are some certain problems on the mobile version. I guess it has to be caused by the overlapping elements. I am also working on my new website, and I can tell you that it is really tough to make a good website right now, as all the great web development companies are having some insane prices tags. I am working on my HTML Sitemaps (https://www.sitecentre.com.au/blog/html-sitemap-vs-xml-sitemap), I hope I am doing everything right, however I have already called for some specialists and hope they would do the job.
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Clan Wolf - Silver Keshik - Daishi is MIA :)
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It's just showing off how effective the camouflage is.
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Just discovered that there's a page for Fire Horse Galaxy (https://camospecs.com/unit/fire-horse-galaxy/), but there's no link for it on the Clan Hell's Horses faction page (https://camospecs.com/factions/clan-hells-horses/). Instead, if you click the faction link on the former page, it takes you here: https://camospecs.com/listing-cat/clan-hells-horses
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Will Clan Wolverine get a gallery like the rest, or are they doomed to a Not-Seen status as well? ^-^
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Got a 404 error when I clicked on the link for the Umayyad 1st Corps. https://camospecs.com/factions/umayyad-caliphate-2/umayyad-1st-corps/
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Do Sulla Omnifighters now come with tracking? ;D
https://camospecs.com/listing/sulla-omnifighter-2/
we get a google maps section instead of the faction information.
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New Crusader Mini is in the recently painted list, looks amazing!
https://camospecs.com/listing/crusader-crd-3r/
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Very nice!
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Clan Wolf - Silver Keshik - Daishi is MIA :)
Looks like we lost that one somewhere along the way. Removed. Thanks for finding it.
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Just discovered that there's a page for Fire Horse Galaxy (https://camospecs.com/unit/fire-horse-galaxy/), but there's no link for it on the Clan Hell's Horses faction page (https://camospecs.com/factions/clan-hells-horses/). Instead, if you click the faction link on the former page, it takes you here: https://camospecs.com/listing-cat/clan-hells-horses
Hell's Horses faction page updated. Thanks!
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Will Clan Wolverine get a gallery like the rest, or are they doomed to a Not-Seen status as well? ^-^
For the moment, they're on the list of factions waiting for a product or special project that lists out their units. I have no inkling of one for them being on the horizon.
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Got a 404 error when I clicked on the link for the Umayyad 1st Corps. https://camospecs.com/factions/umayyad-caliphate-2/umayyad-1st-corps/
Link from the image fixed. Thanks!
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Do Sulla Omnifighters now come with tracking? ;D
https://camospecs.com/listing/sulla-omnifighter-2/
we get a google maps section instead of the faction information.
Fixed (along with incorrect era info). Thanks for pointing that one out.
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https://camospecs.com/
Previews of the Kickstarter King Crab, Wolfhound, and Shadow Cat in today's update.
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Apparently Camospecs added a facebook and a discord link on the site
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Next to description (underneath the minis) it reads "IWM", even for CGL minis ;)
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Curious if their is a new images page planned?
I know the six tiles on the front page seem to be the new ones, but wondering if more than those are added how you'd find them?
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Next to description (underneath the minis) it reads "IWM", even for CGL minis ;)
That's a bit of a relic. On the old site there was only IWM #'s, and we salvaged what we could of that database.
Think of it as Item # for the time being. If it's a 20-, it's truly an IWM item.
Fixing that would be pretty involved, so I don't know when (if) it will happen.
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Or BT-
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Curious if their is a new images page planned?
I know the six tiles on the front page seem to be the new ones, but wondering if more than those are added how you'd find them?
Short answer at the moment is you generally can't see everyone's minis at once in order of posting.
That request has come up a couple of times, and is on the long-term "to-do" list.
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Or BT-
Good point, thanks!
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found this on the last couple pages while searching for thor. Really odd page, maybe left over from the template?
https://camospecs.com/home-3-video/
OTOH, it let me find this one, which is actually useful - it's pretty much a new listings page that goes back to the beginning.
https://camospecs.com/listing-grid-1/
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On all the images for the most recent Chameleon: https://camospecs.com/listing/chameleon-cln-7v-6/
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Firstly, I want to say a big sincere "Thank you so much!" for all the effort that went into this site.
Secondly, I love the expansion of canon schemes that can now be posted. I'm in love with several - McIntyre House Guard, and Steel Viper Rho Galaxy, amongst others. Is there any way to get a listing of newly canonised schemes, along the lines of most recently posted minis?
Cheers!
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When you click on the Capellan logo link just above their Fleet Assets link on the Capellan Confederation faction page, it takes you to the 5th Sian Dragoons page instead of the Fleet Assets page.
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found this on the last couple pages while searching for thor. Really odd page, maybe left over from the template?
https://camospecs.com/home-3-video/
Deleted, thanks!
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On all the images for the most recent Chameleon: https://camospecs.com/listing/chameleon-cln-7v-6/
This one is a weird one. Maybe something in the metadata on the images, and how the site reads it. Not sure how we're going to fix it yet.
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Is there any way to get a listing of newly canonised schemes, along the lines of most recently posted minis?
It's a good thought. We shall ponder.
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When you click on the Capellan logo link just above their Fleet Assets link on the Capellan Confederation faction page, it takes you to the 5th Sian Dragoons page instead of the Fleet Assets page.
Fixed, thanks!
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On all the images for the most recent Chameleon: https://camospecs.com/listing/chameleon-cln-7v-6/
After further research, it's the metadata that WordPress uses to fill in the title. On most of our images, that is the same as the file name. I updated these two to use a more generic name, but I'm sure this will surface and mess with my OCD again soon.
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Is there a rhyme or reason to what mechs are painted in certain colors? obviously for the gencon/diorama stuff its somewhat pre-scripted. but for the regular stuff is it an 'assigned' mech and color combo, one or the other, or just paint something good?
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In Weirdo's thread about Highlanders paint schemes, we noticed that MWDA Highlanders paint scheme was canonized on the old site but is missing from new site. Error, deliberate change, "can't talk about it", something else?
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/general-discussion/dark-age-highlanders-colors/msg1764941/#msg1764941
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Is there a rhyme or reason to what mechs are painted in certain colors? obviously for the gencon/diorama stuff its somewhat pre-scripted. but for the regular stuff is it an 'assigned' mech and color combo, one or the other, or just paint something good?
With the exception of certain projects that have assignments, artists are, generally speaking, free to paint up whatever miniature and unit they wish, so long as all the facets meet the requirements of BattleTech canon.
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In Weirdo's thread about Highlanders paint schemes, we noticed that MWDA Highlanders paint scheme was canonized on the old site but is missing from new site. Error, deliberate change, "can't talk about it", something else?
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/general-discussion/dark-age-highlanders-colors/msg1764941/#msg1764941
Checking.
If you hear a small swish of air and feel a pinch in your neck, it was "can't talk about it".
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Not sure if it helps, but
https://camospecs.com/unrepresented-units/ (https://camospecs.com/unrepresented-units/)
The Highlanders are listed under the Republic of the Sphere as an unrepresented scheme
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While we are on the topic of what’s official camo colors, what is up with Clan Wolf/Wolf Empire beta galaxy? They are brown and orange in some DA books and nothing since, until the battle of terra diorama where beta galaxy is back in their classic colors.
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DA minis weren't big on checking existing canon.
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I assume wrong categories can be reported here?
Like https://camospecs.com/listing/sunder-sd1-0-7/
Labeled Sunder 20-665 but i'm pretty sure this is the Sunder resculpt 20-462.
Despite modifications, comparing legs and chest detail really makes me question it is the original Sunder.
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In Weirdo's thread about Highlanders paint schemes, we noticed that MWDA Highlanders paint scheme was canonized on the old site but is missing from new site. Error, deliberate change, "can't talk about it", something else?
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/general-discussion/dark-age-highlanders-colors/msg1764941/#msg1764941
The Northwind Highlanders entry was updated to include the missing information.
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Small heads up: The Mercenaries faction page has become unwieldy. We will be looking to split that in two. Additionally, Wolf's Dragoons will be split into multiple units (likely a parent plus one for each regiment, but other sub-units are being discussed).
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Mercenaries split completed. Wolf's Dragoons still pending.
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Noticed that the Dire Wolf A posted today (2-23-2022) has a map on the page.
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We cleaned that one up, thanks!
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In the Solaris Stables page (https://camospecs.com/factions/solaris-stables/), Blue Fist Stables has Bromley Stables' logo.
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I assume wrong categories can be reported here?
Like https://camospecs.com/listing/sunder-sd1-0-7/
Labeled Sunder 20-665 but i'm pretty sure this is the Sunder resculpt 20-462.
Despite modifications, comparing legs and chest detail really makes me question it is the original Sunder.
Sorry that I overlooked this post. Fixed!
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In the Solaris Stables page (https://camospecs.com/factions/solaris-stables/), Blue Fist Stables has Bromley Stables' logo.
Fixed. Thanks for finding!
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Just because it's my historical OCD getting the better of me:
The logo description for Snord's Irregulars (https://camospecs.com/unit/snords-irregulars/) is incorrect.
There exists no coin called a "buffalo quarter." It should be a "buffalo nickle" or an "eagle quarter" (technically, the second is the reverse of the "Standing Liberty" Quarter type 1 of 1916-1917).
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Yet, the Snord's Irregulars have one as their logo. Turning Points 3039 Vega shows it, and it's clearly labeled as "quarter dollar" on one side, and a buffalo on the other.
I don't know if it's an in-universe joke, or divergent history.
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It doesn't have to be either -- it's entirely possible the Buffalo Quarter is a product of the period between the present day and the dissolution of the American polity.
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What has been pictured are two different coins: The "flying eagle" quarter and the Buffalo/Indian head nickel. They seem to be used interchangeably. The text is from a sourcebook that would need to be errata'd.
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The Neanderthal NTL-AG posted 8 June 2022 has a map ;)
https://camospecs.com/listing/neanderthal-ntl-ag/
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What has been pictured are two different coins: The "flying eagle" quarter and the Buffalo/Indian head nickel. They seem to be used interchangeably. The text is from a sourcebook that would need to be errata'd.
TP:3039 Vega effectively did that.
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The Neanderthal NTL-AG posted 8 June 2022 has a map ;)
https://camospecs.com/listing/neanderthal-ntl-ag/
Corrected, thanks!
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I see that the Scorpion Empire (https://camospecs.com/factions/scorpion-empire/) has been added to the list of factions covered on the CSO website.
Are there any plans to include a sub-section for Hellion Keshik, based on the paint scheme in the unit description on page 4 of their Spotlight On... (http://masterunitlist.info/Source/Details/505/spotlight-on-hellion-keshik) volume?
Also, both SO:HK and Operational Turning Points: Hanseatic Crusade (http://masterunitlist.info/Source/Details/461/operational-turning-points-hanseatic-crusade) note the existence of a "Seeker Keshik", which was created at around the same time Chi Galaxy was re-named to Seeker Galaxy. It is a Supernova Trinary assigned to protect the Clan's Loremaster. Might there be an opportunity to work up an appropriately distinct paint scheme (and/or logo) for this particular unit?
Further, SO:HK refers to a new (post-Hanseatic Crusade) "Eta Galaxy"; six Clusters of mostly (ex-)Hansa freeborn warriors, akin to how Omega Galaxy was formed to incorporate Castilian and Umayyad freeborns after the initial Goliath Scorpion conquest of Nueva Castile. Might it be possible to work up a new colour scheme and logo for that unit in turn?
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I see that the Scorpion Empire (https://camospecs.com/factions/scorpion-empire/) has been added to the list of factions covered on the CSO website.
Are there any plans to include a sub-section for Hellion Keshik, based on the paint scheme in the unit description on page 4 of their Spotlight On... (http://masterunitlist.info/Source/Details/505/spotlight-on-hellion-keshik) volume?
Also, both SO:HK and Operational Turning Points: Hanseatic Crusade (http://masterunitlist.info/Source/Details/461/operational-turning-points-hanseatic-crusade) note the existence of a "Seeker Keshik", which was created at around the same time Chi Galaxy was re-named to Seeker Galaxy. It is a Supernova Trinary assigned to protect the Clan's Loremaster. Might there be an opportunity to work up an appropriately distinct paint scheme (and/or logo) for this particular unit?
Further, SO:HK refers to a new (post-Hanseatic Crusade) "Eta Galaxy"; six Clusters of mostly (ex-)Hansa freeborn warriors, akin to how Omega Galaxy was formed to incorporate Castilian and Umayyad freeborns after the initial Goliath Scorpion conquest of Nueva Castile. Might it be possible to work up a new colour scheme and logo for that unit in turn?
The short answer on adding those units is not right now, but they will hopefully be added at some point.
CSO maintains an internal list of units that need to be added to our site. We also have a list of products we have completed data-mining and which ones still need data-mining so that the unit list is as comprehensive as we can make it.
Neither Hanseatic Crusade nor SO: Hellion Keshik have been completely data-mined yet.
Also of note, CSO doesn't usually design logos, just schemes.
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Thank you for your feedback.
Hopefully the Scorpions aren't too far down the list of factions-to-be-datamined-for - and that someone cooks up a suitable set of unit logos for the folks at CSO to make use of.
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Is there an entry for the Rim Worlds Republic? I have some pending warships and no idea how to do them up.
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Is there an entry for the Rim Worlds Republic? I have some pending warships and no idea how to do them up.
Currently, there is not. While we do hope to add one in the future, at the moment all I can say is that there is no canon scheme for the Rim Worlds fleet. Sorry.
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My suggestion - like a juvenile tiger shark. White bottom, grey top w/ vertical lighter stripes
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Currently, there is not. While we do hope to add one in the future, at the moment all I can say is that there is no canon scheme for the Rim Worlds fleet. Sorry.
Apologies 00Dawg but that may not be true. There is a scheme given for the RWR navy in Field Report 2765: Periphery, stating on page 18...
Vessels of the Rim Worlds Navy are painted
a dark blue-gray on the dorsal surface and a
light gray on the ventral surfaces, blending
where the colors meet. Some captains have
taken to painting shark’s jaws to the bows
or even adding a light gray mottling or tiger
striping to the dorsal surface.
In addition, each ship sports a unique
heraldic shield design incorporating the
ship’s name, hull number and a specific
species of shark (depending on the vessel
class): great white (battleship), tiger (cruiser),
bull (destroyer), hammerhead (frigate) and
mako (corvette)
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Currently, there is not. While we do hope to add one in the future, at the moment all I can say is that there is no canon scheme for the Rim Worlds fleet. Sorry.
Fleet assets never seem to be a priority with the main fanbase, but i was a little shocked they didn't even have some ground forces.
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Apologies 00Dawg but that may not be true. There is a scheme given for the RWR navy in Field Report 2765: Periphery, stating on page 18...
Oh man, thanks for this! its exactly what i was looking for.
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Nice find. Pardon me while I have a chat with our resident RWR expert. >:D
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Bishop Steiner's cockpit painting guide with info on cockpit locations on the new CGL minis has been added to the CSO site under the Other Stuff dropdown. Thanks to he and Troy Starrett for putting that together, and Bishop for letting us host it.
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Is the Camospec website remake fully done? Or not?
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This iteration is, yes.
We’re already planning the next revamp at a time TBD.
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Oh wow. The rapid turnover makes it sound like the main goal for you guys was database cleaning and back end overhaul. Is that a good characterization?
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Oh wow. The rapid turnover makes it sound like the main goal for you guys was database cleaning and back end overhaul. Is that a good characterization?
Well, given that we lost the original site and the replacement site that was in process turned out to have other technical blockers, in all honesty the main goal was just to reach the point where we could say:
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/VdiQKDAguhDSi37gn1/200.gif)
The current site more than did that.
Meanwhile, planning for the next revamp has drivers on both the front and back ends.
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Ah. That tracks.
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It's https://camospecs.com (https://camospecs.com).
Keep in mind DNS changeovers can take a while to propagate, and we're working to remove what is essentially a redirect at the moment.
I'll also be keeping an eye on this thread for issues (like the two already mentioned) to see what we can do.
Thanks for this!
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I saw your guys stuff on Facebook, looks sweet.
Are you guys going to be doing another set of videos as well this year?
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No, no videos this year. During the COVID years we redirected the effort we normally put into the larger board into setting up for and creating those videos. The planning and execution differs drastically between the two setups.
That being said, professional-grade video technology becomes more and more accessible each year, so hopefully there will come a time where we can easily do both.
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I just saw (and downloaded) the "Cockpit painting guide" pdf from the CSO website. Thanks a lot for having that in one place.
I have a suggestion though - rename it to "Cockpit location guide".
I was expecting an actual cockpit painting guide, for the jeweling effect or something, that CSO artists use for the most part.
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I have a suggestion though - rename it to "Cockpit location guide".
Great idea. Done!
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The Vedette Tank (https://camospecs.com/listing/vedette-tank/) has a map. Obviously, he needs directions to AdeptiCon so he doesn't miss the Mercenaries Kickstarter launch... :thumbsup:
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Just noticed the First Liao Guards are on the "Unrepresented Units" list but are in fact represented.
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Just noticed the First Liao Guards are on the "Unrepresented Units" list but are in fact represented.
Corrected. We appreciate any and all efforts to track down and eliminate Hidden Lion units. ::)
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The following units are on the "Unrepresented Units" list but do currently have painted-up miniatures:
ilKhanate, Clan Sea Fox
Eighth Avalon Hussars, Federated Suns (also, the Eighth's page incorrectly refers to it as the Eleventh)
Dahar DMM, Federated Suns
Griffin's Pride, Mercenaries
XII Hastati Sentinels, Republic of the Sphere
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Should be all fixed. Thanks for that!
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The CSO site is currently throwing up NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID warnings. Just wanted to bring that to your attention.
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Thanks. We’re aware, and believe it’s related to some DNS changes made today while working on email issues.
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The site is back up.
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The site is back up.
:smilie_happy_clapping:
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Glad they are back.
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Also glad to see it back up. Although, the page version I am getting looks like a mobile page. Anyone else getting that?
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Hmmmm - https://x.com/catalystgamelab/status/1712951386696974406?s=20
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Hmmmm - https://x.com/catalystgamelab/status/1712951386696974406?s=20
It's on Facebook as well - https://www.facebook.com/battletechgame
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Would either of you care to quote whatever is there so I don't have to visit "big social"?
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Would either of you care to quote whatever is there so I don't have to visit "big social"?
Something new - "Camo Specs Online - A Guide to Faction Paint Schemes" is coming October 20th.
Likely the long-promised Clan Invasion reward, first six issues that as of the January 2023 update were ready and likely to appear in February 2023, are finally arriving.
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Hello! I was perusing the site just now and have noticed a discrepancy. Under the Ghost Bear section, the scheme for Taiga Galaxy is called a treeline camo pattern, but in Dominions Divided there is artwork depicting a Taiga Locust IIC on page 83 in a splinter camo pattern, which is listed on CSO as being Tundra Galaxy's scheme. Which is the correct depiction of which?
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Hello! I was perusing the site just now and have noticed a discrepancy. Under the Ghost Bear section, the scheme for Taiga Galaxy is called a treeline camo pattern, but in Dominions Divided there is artwork depicting a Taiga Locust IIC on page 83 in a splinter camo pattern, which is listed on CSO as being Tundra Galaxy's scheme. Which is the correct depiction of which?
We translated the Locust IIC as an alpine camo, which is mentioned in their scheme description as being used in arctic environments.
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this Warhawk C is listed as Mercenaries - should be Smoke Jaguars
https://camospecs.com/listing/warhawk-c/
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Fixed, thanks!
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The Twelfth Regulan Hussars can be removed from the Unrepresented Units list.
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The Twelfth Regulan Hussars can be removed from the Unrepresented Units list.
Fixed, thanks!
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Clan Snow Raven Kappa Galaxy and the Draconis Combine's Dragon's Fury can both be removed from the Unrepresented Units list.
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Clan Snow Raven Kappa Galaxy and the Draconis Combine's Dragon's Fury can both be removed from the Unrepresented Units list.
That is a gorgeous Dragon's Fury Awesome! The kanji work is outstanding and I love the scene stagging. Amazing work.
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Really like the Cheetahs scheme getting solidified as well, that Timber Wolf is gorgeous!
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How long will CSO keep posting one photo per mini?
CSO artists do important work, but they only post one photo.
We all want to see the miniature from all views/angles.
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I can't speak to the other artists' processes, though I typically aim to have 3-4 angles of any given mini. Sometimes an angle ends up not offering anything of value, or it doesn't work well for a variety of reasons, and I end up with less. It's not ideal, but reality rarely is.
You may also be noticing new artists; frequently the pieces used in the submission process are the first minis posted, and often artists are very selective about what they send in for review, resulting in a single image of each mini being posted. Such is the case with Tsuge's very sharp looking Awesome. It's worth checking out, and he'll probably get the nudge to include more angles of future pieces. :smiley:
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Clan Snow Raven Kappa Galaxy and the Draconis Combine's Dragon's Fury can both be removed from the Unrepresented Units list.
We're reviewing the list. Thanks!
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Just noticed that Clan Nova Cat's Delta Galaxy is entirely missing from the site.
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Just noticed that Clan Nova Cat's Delta Galaxy is entirely missing from the site.
Neither Gamma nor Delta Galaxies are listed on the site, even though we have a canonical reference for Gamma in the Battle of Tukayyid book (p. 180). That said, the pilot card for Patrick Drummond (Stormcrow) has him listed as part of Delta Galaxy, but the camo scheme of the mech on his card is the same camo scheme as Beta Galaxy in the Tukayyid book and on the site (i.e. Beta and Delta Galaxies are using the same camo scheme). The only thing I can think is that someone took Fanjoys awesome Stormcrow from the site and accidentally attributed it to Delta Galaxy. It's also confusing because the Galaxy crest for Beta Galaxy is also the same as the unit insignia for Sigma Galaxy on CamoSpecs (Sarna has a useful note on this on the Beta Galaxy page).
As a dedicate Nova Cat trying to paint my touman, it's been a headache figuring out what proper schemes are, or if as per FM Comstar, it's just all camouflage all the way down (except for Alpha and Xi). Although you would think the Cats would have distinct schemes from one Galaxy to the other.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Clan Nova Cat and the camo rule is very much a sore point for CSO, but for the moment, it remains the rule.
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The 'They all use camo' rule was always a sore point for me, too. It's hard to build up a brand identify when it's the same as everyone else. At least they do have Alpha and Xi galaxy, and Alpha was a bit of a fight. I was hoping they'd adopt the MWDA coloring scheme but no dice. It does show up on the cover of Heretic's Faith reprint but we know where art goes on the canon list.
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Even just different colour trim per galaxy would be enough IMHO.
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I just use different types of camo to represent the galaxy.
Desert camo, Urban camo, woodland camo, Tiger stripe, artic camo... etc.