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Ok... I did the math. We can't do a cannon Battle of Yavin IV.

According to Wookiepedia. We would need 22 X-wings and 8 Y-Wings, plus Falcon. For the Empire, an equal force would consist of Vader's Tie-Advanced, and 51 regular Tie's. 950 points per side. I find it seriously doubtful we have that many Tie's of any variant.

We might be able to cut some back and make it work.

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I was looking at that as well; there are several takes on it.

We could go with specific units: 12 X-wings (Red Sq), 7 Y-wings (Gold Sq),the Falcon (late add), 8 Tie (std) (Black Sq), and 1 Tie Adv. (Vader) plus the Laser Towers.


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Maybe a respawn mechanic for the Imperials to even the odds an force tho Rebels to play the objective?

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A quick correction: my Resistance Bomber unit is only 80pt, not 85pt, so that's +20pt for the escort force.

for the Death Star scenario I have: 12 X-wings (5 named, 6 standard, 1 rookie) at 362pt, 7 Y-wings (1 named, 6 standard) at 229pt, and the "Han" Falcon with just Chewie at 59pt. Total points: 650; only used the allotted upgrade slots, named droids, no "mods" except for the Falcon's engine; haven't chosen 5 elite cards.
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What's on the docket for this weekend?
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Well sense no one showed this past Sunday, (I left at 1:15) perhaps X-wing or Imperial Assault? Jonathan and I were working on a Death Star scenario, and Merritt recently proposed doing IA.
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Just me know ahead of time what to bring, if anything. :)
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We should be ready to go if we want to do the Battle of Yavin IV this weekend. Just some minor things to iron out.

Main problems left to tackle are the gun towers, a possible time limit, and the exhaust port itself.

On the guns, currently planning on dropping them on either side of the trench leading to the port. They will have a 90° arc of fire lined up with the board edges facing into the trench and away from the port. They will have a 4 dice attack and 5(?) hull.

The port will have 1 hull, 4 evade, and only take hits from proton torpedoes.

I have no idea what time limit should be implemented if any. Narrative wise it makes sense, the Rebels very much had a time limit. I just don't know how long I should make it.

Thoughts?

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Could we use the difference in the build points as a time limit? 1pt = 1 minute
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I'll let you guys decide this stuff. Do I need to bring anything? Faction, points, chassis restrictions, etc?
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Thinking about it, there is already plenty of pressure on the Rebels. I don't think a time limit is needed.

Only thing we are short on it T65s, we have enough ships, and enough X-wings if we mix in T70s.

I will be off work early tomorrow and will be putting together a breifing document for distribution to interested players.

Speaking of which, can we get a head count? How many players will we have on Sunday?696

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I've got two T-65s, if needed.
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That will give us 9 actual with 3 subs.
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Didn't get off work as nearly as early as I had hoped. Going to need more time for the briefing.

Can I get the list of Astros? Gonna need that.

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Garven Dreis (Red Leader) R5-K6
Luke             (Red Five)     R2-D2
Jek Porkins    (Red Six)      R5-D8

the rest are standard R2 units
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i only have T-70s and Interceptors, i'm afraid.

i was actually working on this scenario a while back, but i cant find the fighter list. here are the main points.

- rebs get 200 points, consisting of a pre-picked flight of Y- and X-Wings. imps have endlessly respawning Black Squadron TIEs (if we run out of BS TIEs then the imps can pick who to send in). that is not to say all the X-Wings or a huge swarm of TIEs are on the board at the same time. the rebs can only have 100 points on the map at any given time. the spawn rate on the TIEs was up in the air so but i was thinking they could spawn no more than double the number of reb units.
- both sides have an 'ace reinforcement'. the rebs get Han in the Falcon while the Imps get Vader and his escorts. the point values of these units dont count towards game balance, nor do they count towards the number of units spawned.
- the aces are on their own d10 timers. that means that they have their own dice that start at 1, and every turn they are bumped up to the next number. every turn each side rolls a d10. if a side rolls below the timer number, their reinforcements come in. so if it is turn 5, and the Empire rolls a 2, that means Darth Vader and his escorts come screaming in. if the rebs roll a 5 the Falcon stays on the sidelines.
- the map is very large, and would need to have something marking a trench. you can fly over the trench, but if you fly along the path you are considered in it. units in the trench get an extra green die against units outside the trench. however, units that are flying down the pipe cant fire at units outside the trench. if the attacker and defender are BOTH in the trench then everyone loses a green die.
- if a rebel unit can stay in the trench for three consecutive turns, they can take a shot at the reactor port. you may only attack the port with a torpedo attack. every turn they maintain a target lock, the more dice they get. you need to score 5 hits (including crits) to destroy the Death Star. anyone can make the killshot but Luke gets to use a focus on the shot if he has one.

there is an alternate version of this.  rather than playing till the rebels run out of ships, the game ends at the end of turn 12. if the rebs dont blow up the Death Star by then, Yavin is toast. if they don't do it by the time we wrap up, they lose. the rebels have to get a hard win on this one. you could also play so the rebs spawn just like the imps, but are still limited to 100 points at a time. named pilots can only be spawned once of course.  however they can throw more mook X- and Y-Wings out this way if they want.

or if you want to do a straight smash up thats fine too :P

here is my list of available reb pilots, including some nameless ones:
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"Dutch" Vander — Y-Wing   23
Dorsal Turret   3
Proton Torpedoes   4
Extra Munitions   2
R5 Astromech   1
Guidance Chips   0
Ship Total: 33
    
Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing   25
Proton Torpedoes   4
R3 Astromech   2
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 31
    
"Hobbie" Klivian — X-Wing   25
Proton Torpedoes   4
R2 Astromech   1
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 30
    
Garven Dreis — X-Wing   26
Proton Torpedoes   4
R5-K6   2
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 32
    
Jek Porkins — X-Wing   26
Proton Torpedoes   4
R5-D8   3
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 33
    
Luke Skywalker — X-Wing   28
Deadeye   1
Proton Torpedoes   4
R2-D2   4
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 37
    
Wedge Antilles — X-Wing   29
Wingman   2
Proton Torpedoes   4
R2 Astromech   1
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 36
    
Rookie Pilot — X-Wing   21
Renegade Refit   -2
Flight-Assist Astromech   1
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Integrated Astromech   0
Ship Total: 20
    
Red Squadron Pilot — X-Wing   23
Renegade Refit   -2
R2 Astromech   1
Servomotor S-Foils   0
Ship Total: 22
    
Gold Squadron Pilot — Y-Wing   18
Proton Torpedoes   4
Extra Munitions   2
R5 Astromech   1
Ship Total: 25
 
and reinforcement Han
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Han Solo — YT-1300   46
Expert Handling   2
Chewbacca   4
Burnout SLAM   1
Smuggling Compartment   0
Millennium Falcon (TFA)   1
Ship Total: 54
    

for the imps i will just cluster it all together since only Vader and his gang have any upgrades.
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Black Squadron Pilot — TIE Fighter   14
Ship Total: 14 X however many are needed
    
"Backstabber" — TIE Fighter   16
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II   1
Ship Total: 17
    
"Mauler Mithel" — TIE Fighter   17
Draw Their Fire   1
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II   1
Ship Total: 19
    
Darth Vader — TIE Advanced   29
Determination   1
Advanced Targeting Computer   1
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II   1
TIE/x1   0
Ship Total: 32

i have all this saved, so what i could do is print the list up as a record sheet. would look like this, little fancier. but the idea is that this way the only thing we would need to keep track of are dials, tokens, and damage cards.
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Ok, I have the briefing done. Would anyone like me to send it to them to review it? I will be bringing enough copies to pass out.

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https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=61893.msg1435008#msg1435008

I can't make it due to the insanely short notice, but in case anyone else is interested, here you go.
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Well FRAK.....I'm working that night.
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What's happening this weekend? There was talk of Imperial Assault?
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If no Assault, I think someone also mentioned Starmada, yes?
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Imperial Assault is dependent on Merritt's availability.
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I'll prepare a couple Starmada groups in case that doesn't go through.
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I'm looking at bringing a fleet for starmada. Just got the fighter pack for the UNSC.

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Given that Stina and I have to leave early this week, I'm gonna opt not to bring the Swabian fleet I was originally thinking about, instead going for the Earth Alliance from B5. 4 ships instead of 12, should play faster. Similarly, I'll build a nice big-ship Federation fleet, in case of odd player numbers.
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I'm going to try and get there as close to noon as possible.
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So what's the plan? I may have to help my mom Sunday so I think we should still have a backup plan.

Still want to try Gaslands...

And while putting together a Taiidan fleet stat file (Homeworld) I've been thinking about a fighter cap. No more than ten flights per side? It seems resolving fighters is the biggest optional (ie non-weapons resolution) stage in the games we play. Mind that this coming from a guy who may comission someone to make Macross minis, one of the most fighter-heavy groups out there. Having 40 fighter flights on the board, let alone possibly per side, isn't tennable.
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 :clap:AAAAAAAAAAAAND another AnimeFest is in the books :clap:; roughly 10K in attendance according to the Head Honcho.

 I saw Rich and Gabe from the Plano group, but I didn't get a chance to check out any of their set ups in the game room.

I picked up the new Robotech card game from the developer's booth, but he was out of the playmats; he said to check his website for restock. I did get a FREE playmat for one of his other games that is compatible. I'll bring them to Sunday's game session (whatever it is we're playing).
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Would people be interested in trying out Gaslands this weekend?
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I definitely am. Got some stuff I need to get to wrok converting, but no time to convert it.

BTW got the Heroscape stuff. So we can try playing Battletech with 3D terrain.