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(Answered) C3M on Atmospheric Aircraft
« on: 14 January 2019, 21:43:31 »
A discussion with no rules answer:

Can units with C3S on their network see them while they are on the aerospace map.

In reference to this thread: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=64059.0
« Last Edit: 19 January 2019, 22:39:12 by nckestrel »

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Re: C3M on Atmospheric Aircraft
« Reply #1 on: 19 January 2019, 18:47:16 »
They can see them. But I suspect you want to know about range, not sight.

Effectively, C3 only works between two units on the ground map.

The units on the abstract aerospace map don't have a range to the ground map.  Only aerospace units with a flight path on the ground map have a range to targets on the ground map.

An air unit on the abstract aerospace map doesn't have a range to a tank on the ground map. Then it uses an air-to-ground missile.  That missile assigns a range band to the attack, the unit still doesn't have a range.  It can't pass along it's air-to-ground missile range band because it's only for that attack, not the unit itself.  Nor can a ground unit gives it range to the aerospace unit, as the aerospace unit doesn't use ground ranges, it has an attack that attack assigns a range band.

So that's where the "Effectively, C3 only works between two units on the ground map" comes from.
 
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Re: (Answered) C3M on Atmospheric Aircraft
« Reply #2 on: 20 January 2019, 21:22:49 »
I get that the Aerodyne cannot make use of it, but what about the ground unit servers if the Aerospace is one itself?

While the Server aircraft may not benefit from it (lets say it had C3M2), it could connect the entire network together by always being in LoS of the other ground base servers and clients linked to it. They could all share targeting data to basically the entire map as long as the clients had LoS to their respective servers. The Aero itself would not benefit from the range reduction but the ground Servers would be able to always send each other information.

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Re: (Answered) C3M on Atmospheric Aircraft
« Reply #3 on: 30 January 2019, 15:37:30 »
Yes.  The c3 master has to be on the playing area, but that includes the radar map.
So if the c3 master is on the radar map, and there were two slaves on the ground map, the two slaves could share targeting data (through the c3 master) even though the c3 master is not on the ground map.
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Re: (Answered) C3M on Atmospheric Aircraft
« Reply #4 on: 30 January 2019, 21:53:12 »
Thanks Nc!