Blake Militia Division: Help and input encouraged

[Warriors of Blake]

I am currently working on my own non-canon WoBM formation, tentatively designated the 55th (Word of Blake Militia) Division. The Warriors of Blake.

The idea is that it will be a late war formation created from volunteers and survivors of destroyed/damaged units from the various fronts. Each of its six Level III's will be of regular or veteran status, and will have been built with partially with equipment from each of the five Great Houses and the Periphery.

I tried to devise names that hadn't been used. Here are the (provisional) Level III names:
*Prelude to Destiny
*Swords of Providence
*Righteous Fire
*Glorious Burden
*Blessed Altruism
*The Kind Chastisement

Anyway, so the premise is that each Level III will be "themed" on a House and reflect its strengths. Like perhaps one will be Steiner influenced and favor assault mechs, the FWL influenced III will have a focus on conventional support like artillery, and the Periphery one could be lighter and based on raiding.
Here is what I considered, but it isn't written in Stone (get it?):
"Steiner" III - mech heavy with assault focus
"Davion" III - medium and heavy mechs with combined arms (battle armor and tanks?)
"Liao" III - emphasis on "elastic defense" by using lighter machines to stage ambushes
"Marik" III - conventional heavy with artillery support for the division
"Kurita" III - I honestly don't know
"Periphery" III - primarily light machines supported with traditional conventional support, specializes in raids

I've gathered that a lot of users here have a factional focus, and so I'd like your assistance by picking a Level III and building its composition. Keep in mind that while each Level III may have a theme, it can (and most likely would) still possess a number of traditionally Blakist machines.
 We can try to balance things out and ultimately select the Division's and Greek letter too.

Maybe this is ambitious, but I considered this would be a fun project for group cooperation.

If you have any questions, lay them on me. Blake's will be done.  ;)

[Dragon Cat]

Liao I'd go with Stealth designs

Kurita where did the original IS OmniMechs come from maybe a bunch of them

[Redshirt]

Maybe concentrate you C3i units in the "Kurita" Level III...

[Davion_Boy_74]

Maybe concentrate you C3i units in the "Kurita" Level III...

The Fed Suns also use C³ was well.

Dave.

[Redshirt]

The Fed Suns also use C³ was well.

Dave.

True, but he already had a shtick for Davion, and was trying to find something for Kurita...

[Kojak]

This is a pretty damn cool idea, gimme a little bit and I'll put something together for this.

[Snimm]

Kurita would be a lot of high mobility and duelling-type Mechs.  Dragons, Wolverines, Panthers, Jenners, Whitworths, Phoenix Hawks, Wolf Traps and any of the Mechs in the later eras with Japanese names (like the No-Dachi, for example).

[Warriors of Blake]

This is a pretty damn cool idea, gimme a little bit and I'll put something together for this.

Sounds great. I love the game, but I'm not great at putting complete units together.

[Vonshroom]

I am currently working on my own non-canon WoBM formation, tentatively designated the 55th (Word of Blake Militia) Division. The Warriors of Blake.

The idea is that it will be a late war formation created from volunteers and survivors of destroyed/damaged units from the various fronts. Each of its six Level III's will be of regular or veteran status, and will have been built with partially with equipment from each of the five Great Houses and the Periphery.

I tried to devise names that hadn't been used. Here are the (provisional) Level III names:
*Prelude to Destiny
*Swords of Providence
*Righteous Fire
*Glorious Burden
*Blessed Altruism
*The Kind Chastisement

Anyway, so the premise is that each Level III will be "themed" on a House and reflect its strengths. Like perhaps one will be Steiner influenced and favor assault mechs, the FWL influenced III will have a focus on conventional support like artillery, and the Periphery one could be lighter and based on raiding.
Here is what I considered, but it isn't written in Stone (get it?):
"Steiner" III - mech heavy with assault focus
"Davion" III - medium and heavy mechs with combined arms (battle armor and tanks?)
"Liao" III - emphasis on "elastic defense" by using lighter machines to stage ambushes
"Marik" III - conventional heavy with artillery support for the division
"Kurita" III - I honestly don't know
"Periphery" III - primarily light machines supported with traditional conventional support, specializes in raids

I've gathered that a lot of users here have a factional focus, and so I'd like your assistance by picking a Level III and building its composition. Keep in mind that while each Level III may have a theme, it can (and most likely would) still possess a number of traditionally Blakist machines.
 We can try to balance things out and ultimately select the Division's and Greek letter too.

Maybe this is ambitious, but I considered this would be a fun project for group cooperation.

If you have any questions, lay them on me. Blake's will be done.  ;)

I might post up a Steiner or Davion III soon this is cool. :)

[Vonshroom]

Heres my Davion III hope it helps, I usually do not use the word's organizational table of level I's level II's ect. so the organization may be a little wonky, Also it may be a little mech heavy. I considered dropping the first mech level II for some BA transports to ferry around all the battle armor or some hover vehicles.Let me know what you think.

Mech level II 1
1.   Templar
2.   Avatar
3.   Tempest                     
4.   Shootist
5.   Axman
6.   Dragon Fire

Mech level II 2
7.   Thanatos
8.   Rakshasa
9.   JagerMech III
10.   Excalibur
11.   Argus
12.   Grim Reaper

Mech level II 3
13.   Exterminator
14.   Enforcer III
15.   Raijin
16.   Hellspawn
17.   Uziel
18.   Stealth

Vee's
1.     Challenger X
2.     Alacorn
3.   Burke
4.   Puma
5.   Brutus Assault Tank
6.   Ajax Assault Tank
7.   Alacorn
8.   Burke
9.   Challenger X
10.   Brutus Assault Tank
11.   Manteuffel
12.   Ajax Assault Tank

And BA
Hauberk squad
Hauberk squad
Hauberk squad
Achileus squad
Achileus squad
Longinus squad

I kind of went for a cavalry feel on the mechs 2 and 3rd II's supported by a slower line II as a command lance. The vehicles are slow heavy hold the line designs that will hopefully complement the quicker mech forces. The battle armor kind of speaks for itself as with the vee's these are mostly heavy hard hitting designs. Hope this helps, currently working on an a Steiner III.

[Warriors of Blake]

I really like the composition so far, great work. I've been doing some mental moving to see what more precise Level II arrangements could be worked out, pairing up the Battle Armor either with 'Mechs that can carry or with vehicles. Hmm...

[worktroll]

This doesn't exactly fit in your themed Level IIIs, but it's its own mixture:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,28311.0.html

W.

[Warriors of Blake]

This doesn't exactly fit in your themed Level IIIs, but it's its own mixture:
http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,28311.0.html

W.

That's... beautiful, W. The recovery vehicle, the firebase, the Martian camo for the infantry.
Should have sent a poet. :'(

[truetanker]

Marik III

3x Level II Support

2x Demolisher Arrow
2x Ontos MML
2x Pike RAC

Level II Battle

2x Brutus
2x Brutus LRM
2x Brutus PC

2x Level II Recon

2x Drillson ERL
4x Tufana

TT

[worktroll]

Marik III

3x Level II Support

2x Demolisher Arrow
2x Ontos MML
2x Pike RAC

Level II Battle

2x Brutus
2x Brutus LRM
2x Brutus PC

2x Level II Recon

2x Drillson ERL
4x Tufana

TT

Kind of thin on the whole Combined Arms thing - although given your forum name, perhaps inevitable :)

[truetanker]

OP requested

"Marik" III - conventional heavy with artillery support for the division

Not Combined Arms.

TT

[worktroll]

But C*/WoB are big on combined arms - even more so than FWLM, usually.

[Warriors of Blake]

Marik III

3x Level II Support

2x Demolisher Arrow
2x Ontos MML
2x Pike RAC

Level II Battle

2x Brutus
2x Brutus LRM
2x Brutus PC

2x Level II Recon

2x Drillson ERL
4x Tufana

TT

I like the effort and where you're going, but worktroll is right about the combined arms. Any other combinations in mind? 'Mech support or infantry?

[truetanker]

Ok,

Drop Level II Battle for :

5x Level I BA, any choice
1x Level I PBI, any choice.

30 BA and 36 PBI

OR

Same drop for :

Marauder II-5W
KIng Crab-0008
Vanquisher-2A
3x Purifer PPC BA

Better?

TT

[worktroll]

You need - well, technically you don't need to, but it'd prevent the BA getting left behind - to provide some transport for the BA.

Based on an answer from Herb, I tend to not count "spam in a can" carriers like the APC or Heavy APC in the "count" for a Level II. So you could add three Heavy APCs for "free" - their 6-ton bay fits a Level I of BA nicely. If you wanted to use Bollas or Maxims, though, I'd tend to count them. But that's a personal interpretation.

Blake Militia won't tend to have Celestials, which pushes one towards Omnis on the "IS General" list if you want to mechanise your BA. The Blackjack Omni, Firestarter Omni and Avatar Omni all work well for that. And there's always the IS Battle Cobra, which is good (because it's got only arm mounted weapons). The Prime and F models are explicitly anti-infantry, but I have a soft spot for the D (pictured).

[Warriors of Blake]

I like the revisions, TT. I'll have to consider which I'll  take.

Worktroll, I'd like to borrow your Level III composition for background fluff for my game. Does it have a name?

[Fallen_Raven]

For the Kuritan force I'd consider going pure Omni/BA, since it is one of the areas the inovated for the IS. As a bonus it allows you to mirror the Kuritan tendency for fast 'mechs and C₃ units.

[worktroll]

Worktroll, I'd like to borrow your Level III composition for background fluff for my game. Does it have a name?

Please do. The premise is, you have a world in the Protectorate with significant Militia presence, when a Stoner fleet Jumps in and starts hostile dropping. The Protectorate Militia forces fall apart, so a Militia Precentor starts grabbing units and throwing them into Level IIs to make a drive to the starport on the other side of the country. Being a scratch force, something like "Will in Motion" ;)

[truetanker]

I've been tinking....

What if you scraped my proposal for this one.

2- Level II Support:
3x Demolisher Arrow
2x Ontos MML
1x Motorized Infantry, Primary Mauser-1200 LSS, Secondary Light TAG

2- Level II Recon:
4x Tufana
2x Drilson

2- Level II Battle
 *1: 3x Chevalier MML
       1x Bolla Comminus
       2x WoB BA
 *2: 1x Marauder II-5W
       1x KIng Crab-0008
       1x Vanquisher-2A
       2x Galleon-104
       1x Jump Infantry, Primary Mauser-1200 LSS, Secondary Semi-Portable PPC

Thoughs on this new version? Still 12 tubes and more combined arms.

I can use the Bolla in the C3i matrix, carry extra supplies and have provide longrange sniper support when the whole unit is deployed. NOTHING in the rules say all C3 units have to be deployed in the same lance.

TT

[worktroll]

I like the direction, but for me I'd tinker a bit.

The Support Level II is great, but do you really want to commit a full third of your force to static roles? And you don't really need to give your motorised infantry TAG, because they shouldn't be that far ahead. Better off pushing your TAG into the recon groups.

The recon groups - pity the Tufana is a post-Jihad design. It's a lovely scout. Maybe the 3058 Pegaus with BAP & TAG would be a good replacement. I'd consider replacing the Drillsons with fast 'Mechs - Buccaneers (5W) and/or Raijin (200-C).

The first battle group is a little light - I'd almost call them a recon group, not a battle group. They're very flexible though, so I wouldn't touch them, just rename them. The second battle group is your brute squad, with the Galleons giving them flexibility.

So maybe:
- 1 support level II as shown
- 2 Pegasus/'Mech recon level II
- 1 Chevalier+Bolla general purpose Level II
-  Brute Squad level II as shown
- and to round it off I'd probably go for a heavy Level II - a couple of Pumas, an Excalibur (RAC version), Grim Reaper, and a generic omni off the IS list - maybe Avatar - for a Level I of Purifiers to ride on.

But that's my slant. Your proposed Level II is a darned good plug, or dam wall, to hold an objective against pretty much anything.

[truetanker]

Remember he wanted artillery suport for the Divsion. But yeah, a dam wall.

TT

[Nav_Alpha]

.

So maybe:
- 1 support level II as shown
- 2 Pegasus/'Mech recon level II
- 1 Chevalier+Bolla general purpose Level II
-  Brute Squad level II as shown
- and to round it off I'd probably go for a heavy Level II - a couple of Pumas, an Excalibur (RAC version), Grim Reaper, and a generic omni off the IS list - maybe Avatar - for a Level I of Purifiers to ride on.

But that's my slant. Your proposed Level II is a darned good plug, or dam wall, to hold an objective against pretty much anything.

This is a nice looking scratch unit. Very nice!

Can't wait to drop some Lament on it...

[Kojak]

Here's my first Level III, the Steiner-themed one:

Prelude to Destiny III-kappa

Archangel C-ANG-O
King Crab KGC-008
Vanquisher VQR-5V
Fafnir FNR-5WB
Eidolon C-EID-001
Wolverine WVR-9W

Atlas II AS7-D-H2
Highlander HGN-732b
Titan II TI-2P
Titan II TI-2PA
Awesome AWS-10KM
Crusader CRD-7L

Alacorn Heavy Tank Mk VI
Alacorn Heavy Tank Mk VI
Alacorn Heavy Tank Mk VII
Alacorn Heavy Tank Mk VII
Schrek PPC Carrier (Armor)
Schrek PPC Carrier (Armor)

Demon Tank (HGR)
Demon Tank (HGR)
SRM Carrier (WoB)
SRM Carrier (WoB)
Bolla Stealth Tank
Bolla Stealth Tank

Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Shedu Assault Battle Armor
Heavy Wheeled APC (WoB) [x6]

Striga S-STR-O
Striga S-STR-O
Rapier RPR-300
Rapier RPR-300
Stingray F-92
Stingray F-92