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Title: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Son of Kerenski on 05 April 2024, 06:49:10
A mate and I are entering a TW tournament on Star Wars day here in Oz and we have decided to keep the Star Wars theme going by calling our team "May The Gauss Be With You". We want to include at least one design that carries a Gauss Rifle in each of forces.

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of all the designs that have at least one? Bonus kudos if you split them up into types (Light, Standard, Heavy, etc)
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 05 April 2024, 06:57:42
That's gonna be a big bloody list.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BATTLEMASTER on 05 April 2024, 07:35:44
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of all the designs that have at least one? Bonus kudos if you split them up into types (Light, Standard, Heavy, etc)

Around 300 variants.  I did a brute-force count of 'mechs with at least one standard Gauss rifle, both Clan and Inner Sphere, via MegaMek's search function.

I really wish MegaMek would export search results to a CSV file :tongue:
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Psycho on 05 April 2024, 08:36:51
I was going to say that using the Advanced Search function in MegaMek will be your easiest route. Then you can also filter at the same time if you want to include LGRs, HGRs, iHGRs, HAGs, APGRs...
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: spotH3D on 05 April 2024, 08:42:54
I also wish Megamek would display results and not care about the rules level.

As for the OP, this is easily found by using Megamek's search, install that program, learn it, and reap a bounty of BT goodness, including playing against AI or human opponents, and designing and printing your own record sheets.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BATTLEMASTER on 05 April 2024, 09:11:51
I also wish Megamek would display results and not care about the rules level.

Shift-click to select multiple rules levels in the unit selection window so that you can see everything you want.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: garhkal on 05 April 2024, 13:36:34
Pity hmp doesn't do similar..
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: MadCapellan on 05 April 2024, 15:15:08
Pity hmp doesn't do similar..

Considering how long out of date it is, it's a wonder HMP does anything at all.   :smilie_confused_dontknow:
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 05 April 2024, 18:51:17
Heavy Metal Pro? Now that's a name I haven't heard since... oh, before you were born.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: spotH3D on 05 April 2024, 21:43:00
Shift-click to select multiple rules levels in the unit selection window so that you can see everything you want.

Thank you for that knowledge fellow traveler.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Hellraiser on 05 April 2024, 22:14:20
Considering how long out of date it is, it's a wonder HMP does anything at all.   :smilie_confused_dontknow:

And yet, its still the prettiest & most functional UI of any mech design program I've ever used.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BrianDavion on 05 April 2024, 23:18:20
And yet, its still the prettiest & most functional UI of any mech design program I've ever used.

considering they where asking us to pay for it...
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Son of Kerenski on 08 April 2024, 04:30:13
Around 300 variants.  I did a brute-force count of 'mechs with at least one standard Gauss rifle, both Clan and Inner Sphere, via MegaMek's search function.

I really wish MegaMek would export search results to a CSV file :tongue:

Ahhh OK thanks for th heads up. Might have to give that a try. I know you can see equipment in SSW, but I cant remember if its filterable by type.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Aotrs Commander on 08 April 2024, 05:03:53
And yet, its still the prettiest & most functional UI of any mech design program I've ever used.

It was only that I ran out of ways to kludge stuff in with the custom weapons systems I had to move to MegaMekLab, and only then after having to learn how to do some coding because you can't have custom weapons in MML and I had houserules. It's shame there's not an easy option there. (I remain surprised that they didn't got that route for potentially easier modding, hoenstly, but perhaps I'm too used to looking at stuff like Rimworld, which is exceptionally moddable.)
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Garagegamer on 08 April 2024, 08:56:20
One design I wish was produced was the Rifleman 3 with like 5 gauss guns.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: garhkal on 08 April 2024, 13:27:42
Well for a IS 90 tonner, i can get 4 Light gauses, at a 3/5 move with endo.  OR 4 regular on a 100 ton clan mech also at 3/5.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Garagegamer on 08 April 2024, 13:40:59
Well for a IS 90 tonner, i can get 4 Light gauses, at a 3/5 move with endo.  OR 4 regular on a 100 ton clan mech also at 3/5.

Yes but thats dependant on what you are going for. The heavy Gaus Rifleman brings a lot of gaus guns to the table. The Prowler mech or the Hollander Mech or a heavier Rifleman 3.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 08 April 2024, 15:28:22
One design I wish was produced was the Rifleman 3 with like 5 gauss guns.

The Rifleman III (not 3, Arabic numerals are reserved for variants of Clan second line mechs) had four Gauss Rifles, not five.  The Annihilator C "Gausszilla" is the only canon mech that had five.  And it was a pilot's unique customization.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Starfury on 08 April 2024, 22:33:17
There are at least two mechs I know with 4 Gauss Rifles

The Crucible
The Annihilator C 2
The Annihilator 5W
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: garhkal on 08 April 2024, 23:53:59
Were they regular gauss or light?
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Charistoph on 09 April 2024, 00:11:14
I also wish Megamek would display results and not care about the rules level.

MegaMekLAB does not, but MegaMEK does, at least, the latest version does.  Set the time frame to 3151, and it will show pretty much everything as Standard.  It won't combine Clan and Inner Sphere, but that's better than nothing.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 09 April 2024, 00:42:50
There are at least two mechs I know with 4 Gauss Rifles

The Crucible
The Annihilator C 2
The Annihilator 5W

Were they regular gauss or light?

In the case of those three, it's Clan Gauss.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BATTLEMASTER on 09 April 2024, 10:00:57
MegaMekLAB does not, but MegaMEK does, at least, the latest version does.  Set the time frame to 3151, and it will show pretty much everything as Standard.  It won't combine Clan and Inner Sphere, but that's better than nothing.

The current development version of MegaMekLab does this.  I think it either takes the current Era settings set in MegaMek or doesn't account for them at all and shows everything.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Charistoph on 09 April 2024, 11:14:41
The current development version of MegaMekLab does this.  I think it either takes the current Era settings set in MegaMek or doesn't account for them at all and shows everything.

Not last time I used it.  I've had it set to 3151 in MegMek, but later opened up MegaMekLab and it kept it separated out between the different tech levels.  Keep in mind that MML doesn't need to care what is Standard for a certain Era in a look up.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BATTLEMASTER on 10 April 2024, 07:01:14
Not last time I used it.  I've had it set to 3151 in MegMek, but later opened up MegaMekLab and it kept it separated out between the different tech levels.  Keep in mind that MML doesn't need to care what is Standard for a certain Era in a look up.

That's probably what I'm seeing then with all the levels selected.

Either way, I want to be able to export search results to CSV.  Maybe I'll submit a PR for it if I ever get that good at programming :tongue:
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Son of Kerenski on 21 April 2024, 17:12:08
One design I wish was produced was the Rifleman 3 with like 5 gauss guns.

Why would you want 5 for a Rifleman? 2 in each arm makes it iconic. Where would a fifth one go?
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: BATTLEMASTER on 21 April 2024, 18:47:24
Why would you want 5 for a Rifleman? 2 in each arm makes it iconic. Where would a fifth one go?

A fifth one in the head - make it a Magshot so it fits.

The guy said five Gauss guns and never specified what type  :tongue:
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 21 April 2024, 20:10:26
You are technically correct.
Title: Re: List of Gauss Mechs?
Post by: Ghaz on 21 April 2024, 21:07:10
You are technically correct.

And that’s the best kind of correct  :smilie_happy_thumbup: