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BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Iron Wind Metals News and Announcements => Topic started by: speck on 30 October 2020, 15:41:39
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There will be more in the pipeline, so stay tuned
First Post (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/iron-wind-metals-news-and-announcements/what-s-in-the-pipeline/)
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I would have called it Spec-tator Mode.
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What's in the Pipeline 2: Speck-letric Boogaloo?
Can't wait for more metal minis!
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Good name for next one.
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I'm sure the minis he will report will be speck-tacular.
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I'm sure the minis he will report will be speck-tacular.
Lol
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I'm sure the minis he will report will be speck-tacular.
Well played
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Regardless, it will certainly be a speck-tacle.
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I'm sure we'll get quite the speck-trum of new stuff.
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Are you guys sure that all these puns are up to speck?
Ruger
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Yes, they're quite re-Mark-able
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I think there's more than enough speckulation to go around.
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all these dreadful puns are ruining the re-speck-tability of this thread
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Speck, any idea when the Commando or Thunderbolt variants will be available?
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Speck, any idea when the Commando or Thunderbolt variants will be available?
They should be out now and on IWM webstore this month.
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My local brick and mortar store got them in two weeks ago, so yeah, they ought to be available from most retailers now.
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I was unaware that variants are available, that's awesome! Are there photos of the miniatures available anywhere? And what variants are available?
Thanks!
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I was unaware that variants are available, that's awesome! Are there photos of the miniatures available anywhere? And what variants are available?
Thanks!
If you are asking about variants for commando and Thunderbolt there will be some in the future. We have had some delays. More to come.
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Thanks Speck - to clarify, the currently available Thunderbolt and Commando minis sold by IWM are the standard 5S and 2D variants, but there are plans to sell variants in the future?
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Thanks Speck - to clarify, the currently available Thunderbolt and Commando minis sold by IWM are the standard 5S and 2D variants, but there are plans to sell variants in the future?
Yes, there are variants picked out already to be done.
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
Yes please!
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
I'd throw money at that.
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
This is the first time I've looked at the Tundra Wolf and thought, "Man I need one of those mechs." I always thought it was one of the dumbest looking mechs. This is a great improvement.
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
I would have to check on it.
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Thank you!
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I love those models! I'd be so stoked for those to be available.
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Any word on when the variant Catapult and Griffin will be available?
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Any word on when the variant Catapult and Griffin will be available?
Griffin - no updates
Catapult - Yes, will be release as complete mini in upcoming December 2020 distro release. Due to other items being delayed we had to go to plan B for December 2020 release of items that were at IWM. I will post full list tonight after work. When this catapult is added to IWM store for sale, the arm sprue will also be added. For those who just want the arms.
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ah neat that saves me a couple bucks as i'd need to buy a whole new catapult for the A4 variant anyway
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
I would also throw money at this.
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
Count me in.
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Yeah that Tundra Wolf is so much of an improvement!!
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The arms are great, will you do the same with the lrm arms too separately?
Griffin - no updates
Catapult - Yes, will be release as complete mini in upcoming December 2020 distro release. Due to other items being delayed we had to go to plan B for December 2020 release of items that were at IWM. I will post full list tonight after work. When this catapult is added to IWM store for sale, the arm sprue will also be added. For those who just want the arms.
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The arms are great, will you do the same with the lrm arms too separately?
It’s on the todo list.
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*sees dasher II 1/2 on release schedule
Looks at dahser II 3 pairs painted as clan Protectorate*
Gosh darn it!
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Get one and put it in a tutu.
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*sees dasher II 1/2 on release schedule
Looks at dahser II 3 pairs painted as clan Protectorate*
Gosh darn it!
Sorry about that, the arms have been in process for awhile. Due to other items being behind we used them to fill out the last release for Winter 2020 release. The arms will be available to purchase after the mech is posted to IWM store.
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I am in for that Tundra Wolf too if it's possible. Wow!
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
I would back those as well and along with his Legionnaire too!
Having talked to him about it he is happy to have them done (and has a few touchups he wants to do on the Warwolf) but has had little traction with IWM/CGL getting them done. He has the files done and ready to go though too!
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Thanks Speck - to clarify, the currently available Thunderbolt and Commando minis sold by IWM are the standard 5S and 2D variants, but there are plans to sell variants in the future?
If I'd have to guess, I'd say that the "easiest" Commando variants would be the 1D and 3A : in both cases,
the 2D torso can be kept, only 3 new arms (left and right for 1D, right only for 3A) would be required.
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While I wouldn't mind a resculpt of the Warwolf or Tundra Wolf, I'd really prefer to see resculpts of the Vulture Mk IV and Mad Cat Mk IV that fix the freaking arms and legs so they can stay attached to the torso without popping off at the slightest pressure first.
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While I wouldn't mind a resculpt of the Warwolf or Tundra Wolf, I'd really prefer to see resculpts of the Vulture Mk IV and Mad Cat Mk IV that fix the freaking arms and legs so they can stay attached to the torso without popping off at the slightest pressure first.
The arm and leg issue can at least be fixed with pinning, but sadly the Vulture Mk IV is too ugly for my modding skills to fix.....
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While I wouldn't mind a resculpt of the Warwolf or Tundra Wolf, I'd really prefer to see resculpts of the Vulture Mk IV and Mad Cat Mk IV that fix the freaking arms and legs so they can stay attached to the torso without popping off at the slightest pressure first.
I’ve gotten by without pinning until these. It’s an absolute necessity
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And that's why the minis should be redone.
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Can’t disagree
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While I wouldn't mind a resculpt of the Warwolf or Tundra Wolf, I'd really prefer to see resculpts of the Vulture Mk IV and Mad Cat Mk IV that fix the freaking arms and legs so they can stay attached to the torso without popping off at the slightest pressure first.
At some point in the future those could be resculpted.
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In plastic/resin/you-won't-believe-it's-not-Bones?
But really, Speck, contact points are a major BT failing in a number of metal sculpts. If you can't cast them, it's one thing. If you need to make the contact points tiny and unpinnable because of the art, then don't insist on multi-part limbs.
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Honestly, I'm more interested in what the future might hold for non-mech releases. I'm still hoping for the Tribune or Sokar someday...
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Honestly, I'm more interested in what the future might hold for non-mech releases. I'm still hoping for the Tribune or Sokar someday...
Yeah, we do have a vehicle and Mech scale Aerotech Fighter in the works. Hopefully have the molds done here soon.
Also, let’s focus this thread back to future releases.
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Yeah, we do have a vehicle and Mech scale Aerotech Fighter in the works. Hopefully have the molds done here soon.
Also, let’s focus this thread back to future releases.
Please let the aerospace fighter be the Centurion or Hellcat. Actually there are a bunch of great looking fighters in the game. Anything from 3085+ will be welcomed.
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Sorry about that, the arms have been in process for awhile. Due to other items being behind we used them to fill out the last release for Winter 2020 release. The arms will be available to purchase after the mech is posted to IWM store.
So the body is identical?
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I don't see why the Catapult C3/C5 would have a different body, since the arms really are the only things different about them from the C1.
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He was asking about the Dasher II variants Speck mentioned.
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Oh. Guess that's a bit different, though really the only change needed would be removing the bump for the PPC.
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So the body is identical?
Body is the same, a cover was created for the head where the PPC went. Originally the arms were created to just be a OP part. But with other delays we decided to release them with the body and legs.
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Any indication when TRO: Irregulars will be coming out?
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Any indication when TRO: Irregulars will be coming out?
That would be a question for CGL.
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assembled the most recent offerings (dominator, thud, commando)
dominator has the seven piece lower body setup (feet - lower legs - upper legs - hip joint). went together without much complaint. felt a bit excessive but stuck together quickly
thud was easy - 8 pieces, no surprises. lower body could have probably been one piece.
commando was five pieces. left leg is definitely the "plant" leg
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Question: whenever you get around to making the new Awesome mini, are you planning to include an alternate left arm to make the AWS-9Q variant?
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Question: whenever you get around to making the new Awesome mini, are you planning to include an alternate left arm to make the AWS-9Q variant?
I want to have that variant done.
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If the price is right I might be convinced to fund the 9q arm if necessary
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I want to have that variant done.
Excellent.
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I want to have that variant done.
Any thoughts on making the 8T? Can be accomplished by making zeus like rotary missile pods that go over the torso ppcs like a cap
Then one kid could service 5 or so variants
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That would be a question for CGL.
My bad. Sorry.
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Any thoughts on making the 8T? Can be accomplished by making zeus like rotary missile pods that go over the torso ppcs like a cap
Then one kid could service 5 or so variants
I think the 8T is also on my wish list.
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Summer Battletech Release has been posted for sale on IMW online store. See the Annoucement (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/124-summer-battletech-release-available-in-webstore) for details.
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Wait...the dasher II 1/2 is finally out! Yay! Super yay! :D
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Wait...the dasher II 1/2 is finally out! Yay! Super yay! :D
LOL
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Any chance to get Wondergecko’s Tundra Wolf and Warwolf sculpt done through Fan Funding?
I will gladly help for funding both of these suggestions!
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I just hope that when IWM gets to the Awesome, they'll be able to correct
the right arm PPC (the plastic version having a somewhat oval barrel...)
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Got my hands on the C3/5 Catapult. Only gripe is that there is no attachment peg for the Arrow arm. I'm experienced enough to work around it, but others may complain about it.
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That’s a pin for you, little buddy!
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Not everybody's got the tools to do pinning.
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That’s a pin for you, little buddy!
Don't pin this on him. He going to have enough a sticky situation on his hands.
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Not everybody's got the tools to do pinning.
not everybody is me and what i'm going to do when i get one, no
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The Stormcrow A torso has the same issue, where you need to pin the arms to the body as well. The other variant torsos have the requisite pegs.
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not everybody is me and what i'm going to do when i get one, no
If it helps, I have all the tools to suture you back up if you need it.
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Got my hands on the C3/5 Catapult. Only gripe is that there is no attachment peg for the Arrow arm. I'm experienced enough to work around it, but others may complain about it.
A new print has been requested from the 3D printer for that part. It should have peg on it. I will post when the new part is in so replacement can be sent.
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A new print has been requested from the 3D printer for that part. It should have peg on it. I will post when the new part is in so replacement can be sent.
I just want to say, that is awesome customer feedback.
Any idea when we will get Q1 and Q2 production announcement?
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I just want to say, that is awesome customer feedback.
Any idea when we will get Q1 and Q2 production announcement?
Q1 next week.
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W00T! Q1 is announced this week! :D
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W00T! Q1 is announced this week! :D
On my list to do this week.
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On my list to do this week.
Sny chance the Defender Battlecruiser will be done this year or even possibly fan funded?
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On my list to do this week.
Awesome! Thanks Speck!
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Awesome! Thanks Speck!
Will be going up this weekend. Last two days did not go as planned lol
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Release Schedule (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) has been updated with 1st quarter 2021 and two Web Only that should be out soon.
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The RecGuides cometh
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And the Golden Century. And TRO Vehicle Annex?
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the BFFL was a surprise, yeah
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I'm pretty excited to see the Minsk and War Crow, myself.
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Sweet.
Did the Hierofalcon miss the cutoff from the fan funding? Iirc it was Prime A and B there?
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likely added later as web-exclusives or scrapyard parts
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Was the War Crow in the RecGuides yet?
Surprised, I would have expected something else there featuring more with ilClan.
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The War Crow was in RecGuide 7.
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Was the War Crow in the RecGuides yet?
Surprised, I would have expected something else there featuring more with ilClan.
Whole process is delayed by at least three months. The winter release trio were all mods of extant mechs to boot.
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the BFFL was a surprise, yeah
It was such a surprise that I am now considering picking it as part of OpFor for Anton's Revolt Campaign. Although I am not sure which battles it was part of.
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Whole process is delayed by at least three months. The winter release trio were all mods of extant mechs to boot.
It was just more along the lines of a earlier RecGuide Wolf mech, but like I said I do not have that RecGuide so I could be off on details.
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Can't wait to get my hands on a chunky piece of metal (the "Buffalo") and I'm excited to see how crisp the Typhoon looks. IWM has been hitting it out of the park with their more recent aerospace fighter minis. I wish IWM would get first go on resculpting and selling new minis of the original ASFs... but I digress.
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the BFFL was a surprise, yeah
That one kind of got stuck in limbo for awhile. It is in line for production molds, but mold room is behind due to Contract Casting customers and mold makers being out.
Sweet.
Did the Hierofalcon miss the cutoff from the fan funding? Iirc it was Prime A and B there?
They are being done.
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Any chance of seeing the "Master" (or CAD?) for the Buffalo? ???
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Are the new mechs going to be in scale with the kickstarter ones?
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. . . seen the Shadow Hawk?
You also know they are using the same files?
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. . . seen the Shadow Hawk?
You also know they are using the same files?
I know that they are using the same files for the Kickstarter mechs but how are the new mechs such as the Hierofalcon being designed? Are they being sculpted the same way? Will the Minsk and War Crow be of comparable size the new Kickstarter Heavy and Assault Mechs?
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Are the new mechs going to be in scale with the kickstarter ones?
Yes they will be.
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If you need replacement part for the New catapult with the issue on the Arrow IV launcher, please fill out the IWM support form (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/support).
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Yeah! BFFL!
I can now scare the hell out of my OpFor with my Manei Domini flooding the table with Drone Bomb laden Buffalo carrying Copperhead Shells!
( Evil maniacal laughter ensures! >:D )
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Why Copperheads?
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Well each Copperhead round does both damage as direct and area effect, same as Arrow Homing.
Plus I can ram with the supercharger, detonate the booby-trap, and explode the Copperhead rounds for a final finale! Pretty sure that breaks the Ares Conventions... and makes a permanent crater.
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Just seems like using HE shells would cause more damage.
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It's all about area effects...
Ramming knocks you about, Booby-Trap hits you hard, and then everything in the area gets hit, with splash damage!
Pretty sure a Colossal-class won't shake that off, even with Impact Resistant armor!
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Where's the rule that says AE ammo does AE boom? Last I checked, raw damage was the ONLY consideration for the AE ammo boom rule, so machine gun ammo will always be your best bet by a huge margin.
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If you don't want them as suicide vehicles, Buffalos can be used as convoy vehicles that need to be defended or destroyed.
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Done both...
Great cargo haulers...
And as for the Boom effect, true, except Copperheads have an area effect built in... each round does 20 points in the hex, but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex, that should get some head turnings at the table!
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Done both...
Great cargo haulers...
And as for the Boom effect, true, except Copperheads have an area effect built in... each round does 20 points in the hex, but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex, that should get some head turnings at the table!
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Suddenly I get the feeling I may need to order an ungodly amount of these for the store!
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I think I creeped someone out...
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... but does 10 the surrounding hexes as well... times 5 per ton times 10 extra tons ( Cargo of BFFL ) = 500 extra points each of the six surrounding impact hex,
I already told you, that's not a thing. You want to use the TacOps rules for ammo boom, you are required to look at one thing and one thing only: the total standard damage. AE rounds do NOT get their blast damage factored into this.
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I already told you, that's not a thing. You want to use the TacOps rules for ammo boom, you are required to look at one thing and one thing only: the total standard damage. AE rounds do NOT get their blast damage factored into this.
I might be missing something here to but isnt Copperhead rounds 15/10/5 damage for Long Tom/Sniper/Thumper pieces with a Radius of R(0)?
And going by the Ammo explosion rules in Tac Ops it'd be damaged cause divided by 10 applied to the destroyed unit's target hex and then all unit in adjacent hexes taking 1/2 that damage (rounded down).
(My understanding could be out of date however as I only have an older PDF to reference)
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That sounds about right. Now do the math for the same boom, with machine gun ammo.
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Any idea when the new White Raven/Black Python sculpt from RecGuide 12 is coming? If it needs fan funding to get a quicker release I'm sure myself and others would be more than willing to chip in.
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If you need replacement part for the New catapult with the issue on the Arrow IV launcher, please fill out the IWM support form (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/support).
Hey, I just got the mini with defect and filled out the form, but I got an error report when I submitted it:
A sequence has been detected that could mean a hacker attack. Your request cannot be processed.
However, it did send a copy of the form to my email address.
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Had that same problem, they did get the flaw report.
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Any plans for an Oni aerospace fighter at some point?
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Any news on the Thunderbolt and Commando variant release?
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hopefully when we get the q2/q3 release schedule they'll pop up
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After the announcement of the delayed Wave 2 Kickstarter minis, I am also eagerly awaiting the next release for Q2 and Q3 from IWM. IWM sculpt design and quality has been much better recently!
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Any word on new releases, including the Regulator ArrowIV turrets?
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Any plans for an Oni aerospace fighter at some point?
At this point no, unless it is Fan Funded.
Any idea when the new White Raven/Black Python sculpt from RecGuide 12 is coming? If it needs fan funding to get a quicker release I'm sure myself and others would be more than willing to chip in.
It is not in process right now. If you are interesting in Fan Funding it PM me and if there is enough interest I will open a thread.
Any news on the Thunderbolt and Commando variant release?
No update, we had a change in who was finishing the conversation of box set mechs and we had some delays. It has been sorted out but starting with Wolverine and variant. The Thunderbolt and Commando will get completed.
hopefully when we get the q2/q3 release schedule they'll pop up
Q2 I hope to get posted soon. Need to finalize the last two models.
Any word on new releases, including the Regulator ArrowIV turrets?
Last 2020 distro release and the Arrow IV Turret will be on webstore by next weekend. I have been behind last few weeks with some things coming up at home and not getting time to build the models for pictures. Also plan to post the Catapult Arrow Sprue.
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Is there going to be a Kokou tank model in the works?
Easiest would be reusing the Burke body and a Shreck PPC Turret. But if you want us to repurpose the Burke mini, I can deal with that too.
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If your question regarding "will this be a mini" is about a non-'Mech unit, in general, the answer is going to be "not right now, maybe fan funding if enough people say something" based on everything Speck has said in the last couple years.
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the only real hope for non-mech units is in the web-exclusive releases. a couple vehicles pop up there so there's a non-zero chance
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Yeah, I know...
I check every week...
It's " fluffed " as an upgrade to the Burke, was just wondering if they might just might make a new turret variant, or swap one form the Schrek.
That's all...
Either way, Speck's one of the greats, quiaff? :thumbsup:
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oh right... unfortunately if it used the Burke art in the TRO. without new art the odds of getting a new mini are probably basically nil
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. . . they hey-day of vehicles, if it ever was, has passed. It has clearly been announced as TPTB as having passed. It has been recently told to you I know in the RecGuide discussions . . .
HOWEVER . . . making suggestions like you did for the Kokou has merit IMO. Okay, it is a Burke body . . . never seen one, but we have several triple gun turrets. I do not have them all, nor do I have the ability to look at the ones I have so . . . just how hard would it be to mate a Burke body to a Schrek/Alacorn/DI Morgan/anything else?
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Not very, if the turrets are all reasonably scaled to each other.
. . . they hey-day of vehicles, if it ever was, has passed. It has clearly been announced as TPTB as having passed. It has been recently told to you I know in the RecGuide discussions . . .
HOWEVER . . . making suggestions like you did for the Kokou has merit IMO. Okay, it is a Burke body . . . never seen one, but we have several triple gun turrets. I do not have them all, nor do I have the ability to look at the ones I have so . . . just how hard would it be to mate a Burke body to a Schrek/Alacorn/DI Morgan/anything else?
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Here's a Burke with turret, next to a Schrek turret, Pike, Alacorn, and DI Morgan. The Pike will probably look the least bad.
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Yup, seems like the Pike turret would work best, I just do not know how the nob/dip for the connection is at this time.
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You would file it off and pin most likely
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The Burke has the only rectangular PPC housings that I can think of off-hand. Why would the Kokou not have rectangular laser housings?
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Okay, sounds like Wolverine is the next IWM "classic" release? Cool. Then the plan is to finish the box set mechs, which would mean Awesome/Battlemaster are coming up. I would assume we would get the AWS-9Q arm as a variant. That's nice. Then its off to the rest of the "classic" designs. I would guess the Archer and Warhammer would be good candidates for early scuplts. The ARC-4W variant would be great. But that's got to be years down the road.
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The only mod I see needed to turn a Burke into a Kokou is getting 15 holes into the 10 launcher.
The Burke has the only rectangular PPC housings that I can think of off-hand. Why would the Kokou not have rectangular laser housings?
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The Burke has the only rectangular PPC housings that I can think of off-hand. Why would the Kokou not have rectangular laser housings?
Why not? A lot of the art in TROGC was stand in art . . . so if you wanted something visually close but still distinct, changing the weapon mount look b/c the weapons are different works. As far as the missiles . . . what about the new parts 15 missile plate?
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Okay, sounds like Wolverine is the next IWM "classic" release? Cool. Then the plan is to finish the box set mechs, which would mean Awesome/Battlemaster are coming up. I would assume we would get the AWS-9Q arm as a variant. That's nice. Then its off to the rest of the "classic" designs. I would guess the Archer and Warhammer would be good candidates for early scuplts. The ARC-4W variant would be great. But that's got to be years down the road.
This might be a stretch . . . I would expect them to continue the GoAC box but expect the CI box and first two Clan star mechs to start sprinkling into that wave since the plastics have now hit retail. I mean we might honestly see a Marauder or Warhammer before a Awesome.
How do you figure the Wolverine is next? Q2 & Q3 post is not up yet as far as I can find. I mean Q1 had no GoAC or KS mechs included- a TROGC and 2 RecGuide designs.
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No update, we had a change in who was finishing the conversation of box set mechs and we had some delays. It has been sorted out but starting with Wolverine and variant. The Thunderbolt and Commando will get completed.
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Lol, my apologies, I went right to the IWM site and then re-checked speck's statement about Q2 & Q3 announcements. Missed that it was the line right above it.
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This might be a stretch . . . I would expect them to continue the GoAC box but expect the CI box and first two Clan star mechs to start sprinkling into that wave since the plastics have now hit retail. I mean we might honestly see a Marauder or Warhammer before a Awesome.
As long as we've had the new Battlemaster, I'm not sure what the Hold up has been seeing it in metal. :(
As for the MAD and WHM in Metal, I've been Hoping for a couple of years now that we'll see a Classic "Assault Lance Boxed Set" at Gen Con. The old RP Box had 1 each Battlemaster and Marauder, and 2 Warhammers! :excited:
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Because IWM releases recently at best 3 new minis a quarter, last year's releases got FUBAR'd, and they are still dropping 3145, Primitives, and now TROGC & 'current' timeline RecGuide minis. I mean Q1 was 1 GoldCent and 2 RecGuides. I would not be surprised with Q2 being Wolverine(IS GoAC/KS), KS mech- prob Clan, and RecGuide mech with that pattern being repeated the rest of the year.
Is GenCon even going to happen? I know my state's gaming con I attend has already canceled though that was b/c the city's insanity rather than national issues.
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they permanently dropped from four retail quarterly releases to three starting Q1 of 2018.
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Lol, my apologies, I went right to the IWM site and then re-checked speck's statement about Q2 & Q3 announcements. Missed that it was the line right above it.
No worries.
We are all just extrapolating off of what details we can squeeze out of Speck anyways...
I'd just like to take this moment to point out how cool it is that IWM can still provide us with a new miniature that was designed/made in the 1980s... along with brand new miniatures that were designed mere months ago. Keep being awesome, IWM!
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Real reason I asked was why a new mini might be in order, I'd rather support my official miniature maker by buying it from them.
If they, and CGL, do come up with the official mini looks, I'll be buying it.
But, again if, IWM wants to, with CGL's blessing, reuse previous sculpts, who am I to not buy?
Or something like that... different turrets on different vehicles that use them.
( In the past, I've re-used turrets to give something weird, Like a Behemoth's turret on a Demolisher tank. )
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Don't forget, for a mini to be made, art of that unit MUST exist. Since the only art we have is Burke art, all we'd get is another Burke mini, not a Kokou.
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Where did the art for the vixen 6 come from?
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Don't forget, for a mini to be made, art of that unit MUST exist. Since the only art we have is Burke art, all we'd get is another Burke mini, not a Kokou.
Eh Shadow Cat III . . .
If CGL and IWM released a Burke body w/ different turret and called it a Kokou . . . it would be a Kokou.
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But it is also very easy to call it a Burke Clan upgrade. But since it's not a Burke-C...
I'll wait for an official response.
Gonna go for the Pike turret to proxy for the Kokou's version in the mean time.
TT
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Toss in $500 and I’m sure they will eventually make room in the schedule
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Where did the art for the vixen 6 come from?
Mechwarriorclix. Same with the Shadow Cat III.
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I knew the shadow cat was MWDA. Had not seen the vixen before
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I worked up the stats for jymset based upon the clip mini and the desire to have talons which were requested by Brent.
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Is GenCon even going to happen?
No word yet. They're still waiting for "Things to Stabilize", or something like that. (I mean Gen Con LLC is still waiting.)
I Normally would've already had my Hotel reservations made in Late DEC/Early JAN. Haven't done that yet. :-\
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I wouldn't anticipate it happening this year.
Things are going to be heavily in flux past the normal window of when they set things up for the con.
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Any chances of warships getting done anytime soon?
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Speck, is it possible to have a right arm version of the Gladiator / Executioner D arm? (OP-031) created?
Its a bit of work to remove the heavy laser from the H version if I want to kitbash the Gargoyle D for example.
Or even a paired set of arms with manipulators for the corresponding weight classes (light, medium, heavy, assault) that the option parts can be mounted on. (More of a wish)
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Hi Speck,
Will the upcoming Commando & Thunderbolt variants have separate SKU / packaging
or will IWM sell a single blister allowing for all variants to be built (as with the Locust) ?
Regards,
Death From Above
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have the q1 mechs found their way into the wild?
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have the q1 mechs found their way into the wild?
Not yet
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I just checked my local store yesterday, they said that the distributor doesn't have them listed yet.
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Lot of distributors are like that now. There were like handful when i was actively playing in stores couple years ago. Alliance barely carried anything, never mind current releases.
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Not yet
I asked primarily because you don’t have them yet
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I asked primarily because you don’t have them yet
LOL...thanks. I've been asking every so often. Hopefully soon though.
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Lot of distributors are like that now. There were like handful when i was actively playing in stores couple years ago. Alliance barely carried anything, never mind current releases.
My local store has been able to get IWM though their distributor for about a year and a half now and usually has been able to pre-order Battletech minis a couple of weeks to a month in advance most of the time.
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Speck, is it possible to have a right arm version of the Gladiator / Executioner D arm? (OP-031) created?
Its a bit of work to remove the heavy laser from the H version if I want to kitbash the Gargoyle D for example.
Or even a paired set of arms with manipulators for the corresponding weight classes (light, medium, heavy, assault) that the option parts can be mounted on. (More of a wish)
Anything is possible, I can add it to the list. The officially modification to the H arm could be done, but some Fan Funding fund might be need to help cover the molding costs.
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have the q1 mechs found their way into the wild?
Two of the three had some delays. We are getting closer.
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it's all good. just making sure i didn't miss anything
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I received some interest in my PM for the White Raven (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/fan-funding-2021-white-raven-standard/), so I created the Fan Funding thread for it.
Sorry for my seeming longer delay in replying to posts here. I am going to work better at this going forward, if you need a quicker response fill out the Support form on IWM website which comes to me. My free time for somethings has been a bit less then normal the last year, part of that was working on getting the new online store launched and continual improvements on it. The other big thing has been the baby boy (our first) who just had his first birthday last Friday. He will enjoy the UrbanMech plushie when it arrives, lol.
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The other big thing has been the baby boy (our first) who just had his first birthday last Friday. He will enjoy the UrbanMech plushie when it arrives, lol.
Happy B-Day to the little one! Won't be too much longer till he is walking around and out of diapers...
Trust me, as a Dad of a 25yr old girl, 7yr old boy, and twin soon to be 5yr old boys...it's DEFINITELY a celebration day when the end of the diapers happens! lol
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Real food was nice too . . .
. . . my kid has been so easy, I am afraid we would end up being 1st time parents on the 2nd kid. I mean, I tell me Catholic boss that when he was 1-3 he would sit quietly in his bed in the mornings on the weekend so we got to sleep in.
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I received some interest in my PM for the White Raven (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/fan-funding-2021-white-raven-standard/), so I created the Fan Funding thread for it.
As the "Pilot" of this mech, I feel obligate to throw money at it (I want to as well); But at the moment the thread is locked, looking forward to when this is GO!
(Edited for partial miss quote and: ) Shut up and Take my money!
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The first quarter of the year is almost over, do we have any news about what is ahead for second quarter? Thanks!
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Maybe they'll get the first quarter releases out. :)
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Maybe they'll get the first quarter releases out. :)
There were delays with two of the mechs. They are in process now so that they can be released. I will get the 2nd quarter mechs posted soon. I also have some items to get up on IWM online store.
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Yeah, I saw that you mentioned it. I'm just teasing, it's been a rough year for lots of businesses- I'm impressed by your ability to produce any new figs at all, really.
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i'm no market expert but... i think i identified the problem
(http://puu.sh/HulnS/7478404937.png)
(http://puu.sh/Hulp1/f5c1013fec.png)
both commodities spiked significantly c2005-08 and never came back down. now they're spiking again
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i'm no market expert but... i think i identified the problem
both commodities spiked significantly c2005-08 and never came back down. now they're spiking again
Material cost is part of it, but other expense have gone up as well over the years.
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nothing surprising there
i had moved away from minneapolis for about six years and was shocked to find my hair guy hadn't raised his rates since 2012.
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Hmm, should I use my store credit now before the price increases or should I hang onto it and wait for new stuff?
Decisions, decisions...
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I guess lead may become popular again. I don't see anyway for Ironwinds get around it without big costs unless they bough huge backstock before the spike.
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Lead is too dangerous for your health. It will never come back for this type of use.
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That's a bummer about price increases. My business remains unchanged, I am very eased with the products and support. Looking forward to new sculpts!
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It only feels noticeable because it is all at once. I remember when a mini was something like $7. Throw in costs such labor, insurance, electricity, rent/taxes, material costs may be minimal.
It may be a good idea for IWM to include annual or twice yearly price increases of a few percentage points. A 1% price increase twice a year would probably go unnoticed by most customers.
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I remember when a mini was something like $7.
*Puts on old geezer hat*
Ahem...
;)
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*Puts on old geezer hat*
Ahem...
;)
Nice. Those were good times. Still were expensive for me at the time as a highschooler with no job, but nice nonetheless.
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Nice. Those were good times. Still were expensive for me at the time as a highschooler with no job, but nice nonetheless.
Plus, you could chew on them and get brain damage.
But yeah, since then my budget has increased significantly more than the price of miniatures.
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I remember those days. Still have a few in my collection from then.
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Plus, you could chew on them and get brain damage.
But yeah, since then my budget has increased significantly more than the price of miniatures.
And so have the expenditures, I bet.
Which is one good thing about approaching retirement. No more big expenses, Ghu forfend, and enough for a nice little hobby budget.
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Hmm, should I use my store credit now before the price increases or should I hang onto it and wait for new stuff?
Decisions, decisions...
I am finally going to get the last release on IWM webstore this weekend. I meant to get it up a few weeks ago except other things got in the way.
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They should make the Leviathan Prime mini with Gold Leaf wrap, that way Speck and the gang can retire for the season...
And pass on the mini's price as is, paint it at your own risk!
TT
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I am finally going to get the last release on IWM webstore this weekend. I meant to get it up a few weeks ago except other things got in the way.
What's that going to be? Stuff from Q4 last year?
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They should make the Leviathan Prime mini with Gold Leaf wrap, that way Speck and the gang can retire for the season...
And pass on the mini's price as is, paint it at your own risk!
TT
Make a good Limited Edition!
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What's that going to be? Stuff from Q4 last year?
Yes, the long lost release I have finally made time to get assembled and pictures done.
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I'm hitting refresh every 5 minutes, why isn't anything new showing up? ;D
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I'm hitting refresh every 5 minutes, why isn't anything new showing up? ;D
I have added the Raptor II 5X, Catapult C3, and Dasher II (Standard) / 2 to the New Release folder.
I need to get some info from Mike so I can add the Catapult Arrow Sprue and Dasher arm parts to Scrapyard.
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What about the Regulator Arrow IV turrets?
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What about the Regulator Arrow IV turrets?
That will go up same time as the other parts.
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Are you still selling the Mech scale Infantry in Bulk?
Currently, I see Kurita and Davion in " Squads " of three ( 3 ). < BT-370 and BT-731 > It use to be available in a blue package, under the old Ral Partha.
As it is... I do like the Marian Trooper. But @ .65 cents each... :yikes:
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That will go up same time as the other parts.
:thumbsup:
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Mmmm a new lance of regulators is in my future
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Are you still selling the Mech scale Infantry in Bulk?
Currently, I see Kurita and Davion in " Squads " of three ( 3 ). < BT-370 and BT-731 > It use to be available in a blue package, under the old Ral Partha.
As it is... I do like the Marian Trooper. But @ .65 cents each... :yikes:
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The infantry are sold as singles now.
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Do you have any Pilot pieces in Mech Scale?
Or could a single Trooper be made into one?
Looking to use them mostly for ASF and Mech scale raids, where moving from Barracks to " Ready " Line a few hexes away. ( Mostly twilight attacks. )
I don't want to use N or Z Scale ' campy ' train peoples...
TT
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Do you have any Pilot pieces in Mech Scale?
Or could a single Trooper be made into one?
Looking to use them mostly for ASF and Mech scale raids, where moving from Barracks to " Ready " Line a few hexes away. ( Mostly twilight attacks. )
I don't want to use N or Z Scale ' campy ' train peoples...
TT
There were not any pilots done in the small scale. I have played in games where the Davion / Kurita infantry where used but cut off as singles for something similar to what you want to do.
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Or you could get a MWDA infantry man, paint it flesh tones . . . . except for that little bit of red at the hips for the thong.
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FYI, Steelwarriorstudios has got some pilots and techs in 6mm scale :
https://steelwarriorstudios.com/products/mech-pilots
https://steelwarriorstudios.com/products/tech-personnel-set
No experience with them myself, so I can't vouch for the crispness/level of detail...
Regards,
Death From Above
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Hey Speck, the White Raven is saying it can't be fan funded, are you able to say why? I was looking to throw money at it.
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Hey Speck, the White Raven is saying it can't be fan funded, are you able to say why? I was looking to throw money at it.
Not right now, waiting to hear back with some more info. I am pretty sure we will not be able to proceed with it. When I have more info I will share it.
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That sounds ominous.
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I would be happy to " stimulus " this.
Mech scale Pilot, one sprinting with a " Helmet, flight suit with webbing, micro pack on back " to denote ejection and/or Parachutist Infantry <-> Mechwarrior.
See in most of my games, we assume that each Infantry unit is either hex'd ( squad ) or on a single surface ( alone ).
And when one unit is damaged, we lie it down prone, just like mechs. If there is a Medic present, it gets revived to move, but not shoot, otherwise it is out of the game. ( This means, yes the Medic is treating and both can't shoot, only move. ) If the unit ( Squad base ) is down a large margin ( Morale check gone bad ), the whole group scatters ie: single pieces ( Routed ).
How much would a single Pilot ' strip " cost? ( Both to add complexity to Tabletop, and fluidity to the game. ) I mean, how many times have you've don a rescue for an important MW that ejected safely, but had no ' official ' representing piece?
@ DFA ~
I'd rather keep Speck employed a bit longer, he's still gotta make the iLClan's throne " pop ", ya know! xp
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That sounds ominous.
I'd assume it gets done plastic first perhaps, or that this option is explored first at least. That Evans and Pardoe company probably.
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I'd assume it gets done plastic first perhaps, or that this option is explored first at least. That Evans and Pardoe company probably.
That or the inevitable ilClan Kickstarter (my bet is end of this year/early next year).
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I'd assume it gets done plastic first perhaps, or that this option is explored first at least. That Evans and Pardoe company probably.
Dominator is already out in metal, so not sure that is a reason.
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That or the inevitable ilClan Kickstarter (my bet is end of this year/early next year).
It was mentioned that it could be on list for future KS. I did not realize initially it was also a new art for the black Python.
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That or the inevitable ilClan Kickstarter (my bet is end of this year/early next year).
Given that Leviathan Kickstarter didn't even start there won't be BT Kickstarter for quite a few years.
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Given that Leviathan Kickstarter didn't even start there won't be BT Kickstarter for quite a few years.
Oh yeah, I had forgotten that one was coming up at some point. Still, I wouldn't be surprised at another, smaller Battletech Kickstarter in the next 18 months.
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Oh yeah, I had forgotten that one was coming up at some point. Still, I wouldn't be surprised at another, smaller Battletech Kickstarter in the next 18 months.
I would . . . expect them to go Leviathans next year if they do not this year- like BT & Shadowrun timed for Cons. After Leviathans . . . I would expect them to return to Shadowrun, giving them 4 years? since the last KS. Which means IF Leviathans goes off this year, I would expect another BT KS possibly in '23 though '24 is more likely.
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I would . . . expect them to go Leviathans next year if they do not this year- like BT & Shadowrun timed for Cons. After Leviathans . . . I would expect them to return to Shadowrun, giving them 4 years? since the last KS. Which means IF Leviathans goes off this year, I would expect another BT KS possibly in '23 though '24 is more likely.
Fair, but there's something to be said for striking while the iron is hot. While I would certainly appreciate more Leviathans stuff (maybe a smaller box this time? please?), I can't see them waiting more than 18 months or so before tapping into that renewed Battletech magic. In any case, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the reception of the new sculpts. Maybe that's not Kickstarter, though, but it did prove effective.
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No other period or set of releases is going to have the same draw as Clan Invasion- especially since the 'picked' lances went to old IS designs. The topic has been discussed quite a bite, so no reason to clutter up a IWM release topic.
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No other period or set of releases is going to have the same draw as Clan Invasion- especially since the 'picked' lances went to old IS designs. The topic has been discussed quite a bite, so no reason to clutter up a IWM release topic.
Here's (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/general-discussion/kickstarter-what-if/) a recent thread for the next kickstarter if folks want to continue that conversation.
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This as been completed.
Also in the New release folder are the Warhammer and Mad Cat Museum Scale Mechs that were part of the Kickstarter.
BT-437B Regulator Arrow IV Turret is also available.
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Any news on the Thunderbolt and Commando variants yet?
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Any news on the Thunderbolt and Commando variants yet?
No, they are still on the list but the Wolverine is next up.
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Any news on the Thunderbolt and Commando variants yet?
No, they are still on the list but the Wolverine is next up.
Awww. :'(
My Horde of 67+ T-Bolts is saddened at this news, and eagerly await a Lance of their new brother. :thumbsup:
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Hey Speck, the White Raven is saying it can't be fan funded, are you able to say why? I was looking to throw money at it.
I wonder if they're already planning on making it? ??? Granted, they'd Usually tell Speck if that was the case, but who knows? :-\
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Was the Viper/Black Python a Kickstarter mech?
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Was the Viper/Black Python a Kickstarter mech?
No
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Early returns seem to indicate they’re going to clean up at least some of the 3055 unseen. The Galahad was Scroggafied on his patreon as well so it seems probable with thirteen volumes to go that we’ve got a good chance at seeing the kraken and the IIc club. Maybe they’ll get totally wild and throw in the comstar trio
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While I don't doubt for one second that we'll see that trio eventually, I STRONGLY suspect we won't see them in any publication until after the Recognition Guides series is done. Do you really see anyone resurrecting those mechs post-Jihad?
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There probably isn’t an in-universe explanation for reviving what just happen to coincidentally be the exact twenty-two classic unseen, but we’re definitely headed in that direction. Once the fortress walls up I can easily see the republic going to Skobel and Krupp to see if they have any options for expanding their lines
Ultimately this is really about crossing nostalgia with sweet new minis and art. so yeah I definitely think it’s plausible. Hopefully we’ll get a decent number in metal
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So far, the following non-KS Mechs have been shown on Anthony's Patreon :
concept sketch :
Ostsol
Ostroc
Black Python (already in Rec Guide)
concept sketch + 3D render :
Annihilator
Glass Spider
Anthony also mentioned that several IICs are being worked upon (my guess is at least the Jenner...)
IIRC, both the Scorpion and Goliath quads were mentioned by the powers that be as being on the list for a facelift/redesign.
Apart from that, who knows. Personally I hope they'll include a couple of IS "Classics" (Vindicator, Cicada, etc.)
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There probably isn’t an in-universe explanation for reviving what just happen to coincidentally be the exact twenty-two classic unseen, but we’re definitely headed in that direction.
You're correct, but only in the sense that this isn't what's happening in-universe because the Classics/Unseen never actually left production and as a result there's no revival taking place.
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I have added the Catapult Arms and Dasher Arms & Weapon Sprue to the New Release folder on the online store.
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so not really a request for fan financing as it is "Future Proofing" a miniature.
when IWM get's around to the Lightning, would it be possible to configure the mini so you can choose whether to make it, or the THN-2L Thunder. this way we get a de facto resculpt of a mini as well as a new mech
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Any update on the Hierofalcon?
What are the chances of seeing the Ion Sparrow get a mini?
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Good . . . sometime in the next 20 years.
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Any update on the Hierofalcon?
I checked Ares Games yesterday and they still had no updates about the Q1 minis.
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Any update on the Hierofalcon?
What are the chances of seeing the Ion Sparrow get a mini?
Got confirmation from Mike just the other day...
Should be in the next 2-3 weeks.
EDIT - Should clarify, the Hierofalcon is coming soon, no ETA on Iron Sparrow.
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Any update on the Hierofalcon?
What are the chances of seeing the Ion Sparrow get a mini?
Should be release here soon. I have samples of the Prime config and variant parts, will be building them tomorrow.
As for the Ion Sparrow, at some point yes it will be done.
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Any word on the Buffalo and Warcrow?
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Any word on the Buffalo and Warcrow?
War crow is part of next distro release. Buffalo will be available see as well.
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I think I can help, Speck! Here's a preview of a painted, 3D-printed prototype of the Hierofalcon. The Sparrow is mostly modeled, btw.
(https://i.ibb.co/BnzxdG1/3-IMG-20200515-115359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0sDS8Kw)
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Wow. That looks really good, and nicely in scale as well.
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Looks like a Mom holding her Daughter's hand on their way to school! ;D
While I don't care for CJF "Totem" 'Mechs, I LOVE the paintjob on these two! :thumbsup:
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I think I can help, Speck! Here's a preview of a painted, 3D-printed prototype of the Hierofalcon. The Sparrow is mostly modeled, btw.
(https://i.ibb.co/BnzxdG1/3-IMG-20200515-115359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0sDS8Kw)
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Love the paint scheme on the Butcherbird :D and the other one.
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Epsilon Galaxy for the win! :thumbsup:
Where's the Raider at, if we may ask?
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I don't remember. I know the original Gyrfalcon mini was over sized but I don't remember big Falcon Assault in the picture had same issue. Suck towers over the Sparrow.
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Since reading comprehension seems to be on the back burner, I wanted to emphasize that that's not an Ion Sparrow. Pictured is a prototype Hierofalcon next to an older Shrike model. Which, look fantastic, btw, Wondergecko.
I'm excited to pick one or two up next opportunity along with a nice War Crow.
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The Hierofalcon and Shrike look glorious.
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The Hierofalcon and Shrike look glorious.
Okay but to be fair the painting is absurdly good too. I do like that Hierofalcon model quite a bit.....
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So I ordered two Hierofalcon minis today :thumbsup:
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So I ordered two Hierofalcon minis today :thumbsup:
:))
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That and the Warcrow are already sold out. >:(
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So I ordered two Hierofalcon minis today :thumbsup:
From where?
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That and the Warcrow are already sold out. >:(
glad my daughter woke me up early this morning. i ordered from my phone before 8am cst
From where?
:))
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Yeah...if I could just answer without being banned for "advertising" because more are on the way.
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I was glad I happened to be checking my phone when I did this morning to nab the two War Crows I was wanting to start a Snow Raven force.
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I was glad I happened to be checking my phone when I did this morning to nab the two War Crows I was wanting to start a Snow Raven force.
It's a great start! Thank you very much sir!
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From where?
Read the signature banners from someone that has posted in this thread recently!
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I was glad I happened to be checking my phone when I did this morning to nab the two War Crows I was wanting to start a Snow Raven force.
I sat down for break and it was in my Facebook feed. Then it was hitting buttons as fast as I could to make sure I got two before they sold out. Mission accomplished!
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I sat down for break and it was in my Facebook feed. Then it was hitting buttons as fast as I could to make sure I got two before they sold out. Mission accomplished!
Thank you sir!
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Speck, can the Prime arms for the Omnimechs be added to the scrapyard?
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Just a quick update, I have added the Buffalo and Typhoon mini for sale on IWM web store. They are in the New Release category (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr). I will also have images for the new distro release up tomorrow, well have the main variant.
Speck, can the Prime arms for the Omnimechs be added to the scrapyard?
I have slowly added some when they come up. Can add them to the list.
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Anyone know if the Toad Points are available in plastic yet? Just the Points only, don't want the whole box.
Thanks
TT
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Anyone know if the Toad Points are available in plastic yet? Just the Points only, don't want the whole box.
Do you mean metal? Because this isn't the thread (or forum) for plastics.
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Do you mean metal? Because this isn't the thread (or forum) for plastics.
metal yes
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/product-listing/product/battletech-bt-160/category_pathway-2
plastic will probably only ever be sold in sets of five or the two you get in the clan box, at least for the foreseeable future. i had to go to the ebay to find a 5th point to accompany what came with my two boxes. metal will probably cost you less
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metal yes
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/product-listing/product/battletech-bt-160/category_pathway-2
plastic will probably only ever be sold in sets of five or the two you get in the clan box, at least for the foreseeable future. i had to go to the ebay to find a 5th point to accompany what came with my two boxes. metal will probably cost you less
That’s an older sculpt isn’t it? Perfectly good, but not based on the Kickstarter art.
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@Speck...
Any word on the Q2 releases? Didn't want to bug Mike with that.
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Why was this thread moved?
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Doesn't make sense.
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Sorry y'all, just a mistake. It's fixed now.
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@Speck...
Any word on the Q2 releases? Didn't want to bug Mike with that.
They are coming along, in various stages. I will be having an email out to him about them tonight.
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They are coming along, in various stages. I will be having an email out to him about them tonight.
Awesome...I know he's very busy at the moment, thank you!
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Q1 releases came today. Pretty standard assembly. Minsk was the most complex and that wasn't anywhere near difficult compared to some of the 3145 stuff
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Did the Q1 non-mech stuff Release as well?
I see they are on the new releases page on IWM. I just wasn’t looking for them the other day I guess.
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The Hierofalcons are amazing! When are we going to see the Ion Sparrow? >:D
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I have the Q1 mechs ordered from my local store, but the store owner says he still can't get the distributor to tell him when to expect them.
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Noticed the Hierofalcon is not on the website
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None of the Q1 mechs are yet.
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It'll be there in a few months to let retailers get thier sales in first.
Noticed the Hierofalcon is not on the website
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Is this still the thread for finding list of upcoming IWM minis? I didn't see anything for Q2 or Q3 yet and there's nothing on the IWM website either. Thanks!
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IWM's release schedule has really been slow since The Thing last year.
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IWM's release schedule has really been slow since The Thing last year.
Yeah, it has been slow in posting the schedule. A lot of that has been adjustment due to delays in different areas.
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Yeah, it has been slow in posting the schedule. A lot of that has been adjustment due to delays in different areas.
I think we all figured the schedule would have issues this year.
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Is there anywhere that has a list of minis that will be usable for the IlClan era yet? My campaign group is doing a 100-year timeskip from 3050 to 3151, so I figured that'd be useful.
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Short form, no. The Master Unit List covers era availability (for all chasses) up to the Dark Age, and that would be good enough for early IlClan; you'd have to work out which ones had minis & which don't.
Similarly, the Recognition Guides do provide examples of units active in the IlClan era which are KS minis, but no collated lists - yet.
The MUL is a magnificent resource, managed by volunteers, so we appreciate their work and wait as patiently as we can ;)
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To be fair, I was just wondering what new metal minis I should be buying that I can play for the upcoming IlClan era, after the past 3 years of buying 100+ different Battletech minis.
My bad for trying to jump ahead of the horde.
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As a general rule: Everything is usable.
Overall, not many BattleMechs have gone completely extinct, and i find it unlikely you'll have many of those.
Now, not all 'Mechs might not have advanced variants upgraded to Dark Age standards, but you probably don't need to be running around in introtech variants though.
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To be fair, I was just wondering what new metal minis I should be buying that I can play for the upcoming IlClan era, after the past 3 years of buying 100+ different Battletech minis.
My bad for trying to jump ahead of the horde.
Worktroll has the right of it. Seeing what is there for DA availability is the best option. We have barely started work on post-3151 so it’s not worth waiting for if you want to buy now
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Is there anywhere that has a list of minis that will be usable for the IlClan era yet? My campaign group is doing a 100-year timeskip from 3050 to 3151, so I figured that'd be useful.
I think the 'easiest' answer is to use the table of contents from TRO3145/50 and the released RecGuides (which Sartis has a list of somewhere) then see what is on IWM or coming in Wave 2 plastic.
Actually, KS Plastic is the simplest answer . . . everything made for the KS seems to be getting at least 1 new variant. My above answer is the next easiest and would offer 'new' designs to go with the recurring chassis. Because everyone in the League wants that Juliano keeping pace with their new Marauder, Crusader and Shadow Hawk.
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Basically anything that's not Primative mech, a Word of Blake mech, or a Homeworld Clan or Society mech will probably be around in some form or another in the IlClan Era.
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well. most. the whitworth is dead as hell unless a redesign comes back. there are a few others
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Heck, long after the Mackie was thought extinct a few have popped up. And I think there were even a few built in the Jihad era. In the old GDL books one character built what he thought was a extinct design for his own use. A Highlander.
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it won't stop me from attempting to kill things :laughing_skull:
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So I went back and looked - these are the minis currently not in use at the end of the dark age. They fall into a few major groups
Early stuff
Bellerophon
Dragoon
Mercury II
Mongoose II
Rampage
Rifleman III
Sling
Stag / II
Swordsman
Talos
Von Rohrs
Word of Blake
Archangel
Blue Flame
Deva
Gestalt
Grand Crusader / II
Grigori
Gurkha
Initiate
Jackrabbit
Legacy
Malak
Nexus / II
Omega
Preta
Raijin II
Red Shift
Seraph
Vanquisher
White Flame
Solaris 7
Copperhead (S7)
Onslaught (S7)
Paladin (S7)
Prowler (S7)
Ronin (S7)
Silver Fox (S7)
Werewolf (S7)
IS Stuff
Falcon
Hussar
Thorn
Whitworth
Wyvern
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Pretty deep SLDF roots on those IS mechs. Interesting the Whitworth is the only current era mech associated with Amaris that was still being used and produced, even if the specific variant isn't used anymore.
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To be fair, the Rifleman III only had ONE Prototype created, and it was destroyed in action in 2777. The wreckage was discovered by RotS archaeologists in 3146. Yes, the design Looks "Cool", as does the mini. I doubt the claim it took out NINE SLDF 'Mechs, unless it got a large number of LUCKY head hits, given the small amount of ammo it had. :-\ Only 2 tons of ammo (16 shots) for four Gauss rifles? That's less than 1 minute of combat. Better make those shots count!
Yes, it Thoroughly fills the role of "Rule of Cool". But to include it with designs that actually made it into production is giving it much more credit than it deserves. :-\
Granted, the XTRO: Gunslingers entry doesn't say "No construction information was found", simply that "Krupp has denied us access to their internal archives". (Whoever "Us" is. People from RotS, I guess?) Sadly, given that the RotS seemingly never took another look at it and put a "Riflemen III-B" into production (maybe using endo and more ammo), and Terra is now "Under New Management", I'm not sure TPTB could give us a new Production Model at this point. It seems that Krupp only has facilities on Terra and Mars. :-\
But, "Never Say Never!", and all that! :thumbsup:
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As I've stated in the past, I think the Rifleman III's kill count had to have been against mechs that were already severely damaged from prolonged combat. One or two Gauss slugs was probably all it took to drop them.
Just got the Q1 mechs yesterday, put them all together. Really like all three designs.
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I wonder if the Rifleman III was a nod to the MFUK Jagermech IIC design.
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As I've stated in the past, I think the Rifleman III's kill count had to have been against mechs that were already severely damaged from prolonged combat. One or two Gauss slugs was probably all it took to drop them.
Possibly mostly two lances of light 'Mechs...
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I wonder if the Rifleman III was a nod to the MFUK Jagermech IIC design.
It was hinted in the fluff of the Rifleman III that the Republic found the remains of the Rifleman III, they were researching it. I forgot about it, but I guess they never reversed engineered a Republic version of the Rifleman III for the final showdown on Terra. One-off mini, while I like would be bit...overkill to me. I'd rather piece one together for one-off that only got to be used...once.
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There's a fair amount of one-off mechs that have art and no mini. I've kitbashed a few. The Rifleman III is certainly an nice peice to have, but it's not Yen-Lo-Wang in terms of popularity, among the general playerbase that would buy a mini to use. Then again, YLW is a much cheaper mech to offer as a mini considering (at least now) its a simple parts swap instead of a whole new mini.
For the record, I'd still want to see the mechs from Unbound get minis. At this point they would probably need new art though. :)
It was hinted in the fluff of the Rifleman III that the Republic found the remains of the Rifleman III, they were researching it. I forgot about it, but I guess they never reversed engineered a Republic version of the Rifleman III for the final showdown on Terra. One-off mini, while I like would be bit...overkill to me. I'd rather piece one together for one-off that only got to be used...once.
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It was hinted in the fluff of the Rifleman III that the Republic found the remains of the Rifleman III, they were researching it. I forgot about it, but I guess they never reversed engineered a Republic version of the Rifleman III for the final showdown on Terra. One-off mini, while I like would be bit...overkill to me. I'd rather piece one together for one-off that only got to be used...once.
It could be a lead up to a second line design that the Wolves will start building after 3151 or we just haven't seen a Rifleman III in use by the RoTS during the Invasion.
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It was hinted in the fluff of the Rifleman III that the Republic found the remains of the Rifleman III, they were researching it. I forgot about it, but I guess they never reversed engineered a Republic version of the Rifleman III for the final showdown on Terra. One-off mini, while I like would be bit...overkill to me.
The gunslinger mongoose says hi
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The gunslinger mongoose says hi
I thought of that one also, but it wasn't on your list! :D
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I'm hoping the Defender Battlecruiser sooner rather than later. ;)
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Hey Speck,
Hope you don't mind me asking : any update on IWM releases for the next months ?
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Hey Speck,
Hope you don't mind me asking : any update on IWM releases for the next months ?
I will get details of the next one posted this week.
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Is everything good with the Raider/Raider II?
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Any word on the Classic T-Bolt Variant, or the "New" Commando Variant? (Or were we even getting one of the latter?) I know they were due out earlier ibn the year, alongside the others, but we haven't heard anything about them in quite a while. :'(
Yes, I realize "Covid", but again, we've had no word for several months aside from "They were delayed". :-\
Or are we getting them at . . . Gen Con maybe? :thumbsup:
I'm just EAGER to give IWM money for new T-Bolts! :excited:
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Or the new Griffin variant?
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I'm excited to see the Q3 releases!
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Any word on the Classic T-Bolt Variant, or the "New" Commando Variant? (Or were we even getting one of the latter?) I know they were due out earlier ibn the year, alongside the others, but we haven't heard anything about them in quite a while. :'(
Yes, I realize "Covid", but again, we've had no word for several months aside from "They were delayed". :-\
Or are we getting them at . . . Gen Con maybe? :thumbsup:
I'm just EAGER to give IWM money for new T-Bolts! :excited:
Or the new Griffin variant?
They are still planned.
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Hi Speck,
Any update on Q3 releases and/or their availability? Thanks!
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Hi Speck,
Any update on Q3 releases and/or their availability? Thanks!
Waiting to hear back from Mike confirming the mechs.
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Understood, thanks Speck!
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Enquiring minds want to know! :thumbsup:
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Maybe I'm crazy...but wouldn't this actually be Q2 releases? LOL
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I think it's probably because it's already July. Q2 ended a month ago.
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I think it's probably because it's already July. Q2 ended a month ago.
Yeah I know...plus if I recall correctly the release schedule was trimmed to 3 as well.
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That would make sense.
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The last distro release is up on Iron Wind Metals online store in the New Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr) Category.
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I have added the Summer 2021 release to the Release Schedule (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main). Once I have confirmed pricing from Mike I will update the page.
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Sojourner
Goliath C
I am happy to see those two get new/updated sculpts.
Not super sold on another Archer, but kinda nice to have an updated variant.
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Man, was waiting for the alternate configs for the Griffin, Commando, and Thunderbolt.
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Sojourner
Goliath C
I am happy to see those two get new/updated sculpts.
Not super sold on another Archer, but kinda nice to have an updated variant.
The Archer was supposed to be part of a GC 2020 con special of having a clear resin model. But due to Covid and other issues that plan did not happen. So it was added to this release due to another model being delayed some.
Man, was waiting for the alternate configs for the Griffin, Commando, and Thunderbolt.
They will still be done, but the person who is to complete the work had other projects going on for us.
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Nice. All three of those are definite wants.
Did the variant configuration(s?) for the Sojourner get funded?
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yep. B and C
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Oh the Sojourner . . . hahahah . . . now to get my IWM request into the local store.
Would it be wrong to bring a Sojourner, Wulfen, Phantom H and two Elementals?
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So does that mean that the B and C going to be released separately (perhaps as online exclusives)?
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So does that mean that the B and C going to be released separately (perhaps as online exclusives)?
Yes, they will be online exclusive. I need to check with mike for there status.
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So does that mean that the B and C going to be released separately (perhaps as online exclusives)?
Not sure there is a easier design to decide to get magnetized . . . thank God my store orders direct. Will the sprues for the arms be able to be order individually?
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The Archer was supposed to be part of a GC 2020 con special of having a clear resin model. But due to Covid and other issues that plan did not happen. So it was added to this release due to another model being delayed some.
Speck, sorry if this is said somewhere, is this based on the re- seen version of the KS one?
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Speck, sorry if this is said somewhere, is this based on the re- seen version of the KS one?
No, it’s the 9W that had I think null sig on it.
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No, it’s the 9W that had I think null sig on it.
So if is based off the reseen designnis my guess.
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Definitely Phoenix
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It's one of the TRO 3085 variants. So it's probably based on that.
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The new "old" Warhammer & Marauder designs would be nice.
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Also the wasp and Valkyrie making a return
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The new "old" Warhammer & Marauder designs would be nice.
eh . . . you are going to have to be specific in your request- which do you mean- the Classics?
They are getting to those, basically working through the RecGuides right now but only 2-3 offerings a quarter it is going to take a while.
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Thanks for the update Speck!
I share in the frustration that we aren't getting more of the Classics in metal. I suspect IWM has the inside knowledge to say otherwise, but I would've thought that releasing the Classics (Marauder, Warhammer, Wasp etc) would have been a priority as they appear to be fan favorites. But perhaps there's a moratorium on those releases? Or maybe the Classics they do have don't sell as well as the new Dark Age minis? I don't know. Just happy to see IWM continues to release new minis.
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It's one of the TRO 3085 variants. So it's probably based on that.
Yes; some detailing tweaks to bring it closer to the 3085 image (no more LRM doors!), statted out to the -9W. Still want to see it in resin at some point... maybe next year we'll be back to having in-person cons where con-exclusive items make sense.
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Yes; some detailing tweaks to bring it closer to the 3085 image (no more LRM doors!), statted out to the -9W. Still
Weeping tears of joy
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Yes; some detailing tweaks to bring it closer to the 3085 image (no more LRM doors!), statted out to the -9W. Still want to see it in resin at some point... maybe next year we'll be back to having in-person cons where con-exclusive items make sense.
Things still have time to derail, but so far GenCon is apparently going to have a convention in September of this year and IWM and Catalyst have said they are going to be there. As someone who lives relatively close to Indy, I hope it ends up happening. Probably a long shot, but I also hope to see the Raider make an appearance at the IWM booth.
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GenCon is occurring, yes, but it's looking like it's going to have a drastically reduced turnout between people still not wanting to do big crowds and the fact that it's happening later in the year after school has started for many people. So it's not really a great year to be having con exclusive products.
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So it's not really a great year to be having con exclusive products.
Most of it is never really exclusive . . . you just get first shot.
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GenCon is occurring, yes, but it's looking like it's going to have a drastically reduced turnout between people still not wanting to do big crowds and the fact that it's happening later in the year after school has started for many people. So it's not really a great year to be having con exclusive products.
I was more commenting that conventions are (at least as of now) going to be occurring this year. In general (other companies, I have no idea what IWM will or won't be doing), I assume a lot of con exclusives are likely ones meant for last year since Con season more or less didn't happen and there was likely too much uncertainty too far out to have properly planned for it happening (such as it is) this year. If they plan to do anything, IWM does have the advantage of using domestic production so the current shipping issues aren't going to mess with any plans if they have any.
But, between not knowing for sure there will be cons this year and GenCon in particular apparently asking vendors to not bring things that will cause huge masses of people to swarm their booths, you could very well be right on exclusives.
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eh . . . you are going to have to be specific in your request- which do you mean- the Classics?
They are getting to those, basically working through the RecGuides right now but only 2-3 offerings a quarter it is going to take a while.
I mean Metal Versions of those redesigns we got as Plastics with the KS by CGL.
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Then yes, you are referring to the Classics.
The discussion formalized the terms shortly after we got it first glimpses of the new art, and goes like this:
Unseen: The original art.
Reseen: Project Phoenix-style art.
Classic: Redesigned art harkening back to the Unseen, as used in the current crop of boxed sets, Recognition Guides, and the Kickstarter.
Feel free to ignore folks who say nuSeen, that's not really a thing. ;)
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But, between not knowing for sure there will be cons this year and GenCon in particular apparently asking vendors to not bring things that will cause huge masses of people to swarm their booths, you could very well be right on exclusives.
Is that really in writing? Because that is absolutely the silliest statement I have heard in a while. You are buying booth space because you want a high volume of traffic to buy your products.
Getting the Classics in metal will be nice, I also realize all of it will take time- especially with the truncated release schedule IWM has announced b/c problems.
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Speck...didnt want to bug Mike with this. What's the word on finishing off the AGOAC minis in metal? Pending still are the BattleMaster, Awesome, and Wolverine.
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Is that really in writing? Because that is absolutely the silliest statement I have heard in a while. You are buying booth space because you want a high volume of traffic to buy your products.
If I am remembering correctly, it came up from a comment from one of the GenCon reps on their forum. I don't know if it is actually part of any kind of contract or merely a strong (or not so strong I suppose) suggestion as I am not a vendor. This was also while they were toying with having ticketed entry into the dealer's hall for the first few hours to avoid the big crush of people at the doors. I think they realized they were just moving the time of the big crush and not really avoiding it.
I expect this year to be a mess on many levels with things like this. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed the show still happens and there aren't any major fireworks over any temporary measures.
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Then yes, you are referring to the Classics.
The discussion formalized the terms shortly after we got it first glimpses of the new art, and goes like this:
Unseen: The original art.
Reseen: Project Phoenix-style art.
Classic: Redesigned art harkening back to the Unseen, as used in the current crop of boxed sets, Recognition Guides, and the Kickstarter.
Feel free to ignore folks who say nuSeen, that's not really a thing. ;)
Funny,
I call them "NewSeen" and my Buddy "AgainSeen", but I wasn't sure if this Term is fitting here or which is "official" used.
@IWM (and the Community)
Would be nice to see them...
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Speck...didnt want to bug Mike with this. What's the word on finishing off the AGOAC minia in metal? Pending still are the BattleMaster, Awesome, and Wolverine.
Still going to happen.
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Still going to happen.
Any rough idea as to when? I get asked this a lot for when they will be stocked.
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@IWM (and the Community)
Would be nice to see them...
You will, but it is going to be years. See Dragon's comments about the GoAC all being released . . . those have been out for a couple years and there are still those 3 to go while the KS 1st wave plastics have not even been out a year. Now, without covid (and knowing NOTHING about their plans) they MIGHT have had them out by this point with the previous versions of the release schedule . . . and MAYBE the Valkyrie and Wasp that had been available previously.
It sucks, but just going to have to wait- heck I was agitating for the Wolverine earlier and it looks like we might still be a while. IMO it is a toss up as to how they get to us first- IWM or the new assemble plastics like the Black Knight that just went proof of concept.
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Any rough idea as to when? I get asked this a lot for when they will be stocked.
Wolverine will be out before the other two. It missed being in the summer release. Other two have not been started yet but will be next for the sculptor who is assigned to finish them.
You will, but it is going to be years. See Dragon's comments about the GoAC all being released . . . those have been out for a couple years and there are still those 3 to go while the KS 1st wave plastics have not even been out a year. Now, without covid (and knowing NOTHING about their plans) they MIGHT have had them out by this point with the previous versions of the release schedule . . . and MAYBE the Valkyrie and Wasp that had been available previously.
It sucks, but just going to have to wait- heck I was agitating for the Wolverine earlier and it looks like we might still be a while. IMO it is a toss up as to how they get to us first- IWM or the new assemble plastics like the Black Knight that just went proof of concept.
I do not know the agreement between IWM and CGL for the Kisckstarter mechs. As for the mechs from original box sets, I wanted them out faster but there were issues out of my control that delayed that goal.
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Wolverine soon is great news for me . . . wonder if the TDR-1C big gun would fit for a -9M mod on the Classic.
As for KS vs GoAC . . . my point was that was 9 mechs from years ago and we are still having them seeded into the production schedule. The KS has a LOT more mechs, so I expect them to take years.
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Wolverine will be out before the other two. It missed being in the summer release. Other two have not been started yet but will be next for the sculptor who is assigned to finish them.
Awesome.thank you!
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With the War Crow out, what are the prospects for a Carrion Crow?
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With the War Crow out, what are the prospects for a Carrion Crow?
Actually quite well, it is in the works now.
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The Classics that I want to see most now are the Archer and Marauder.
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Then yes, you are referring to the Classics.
The discussion formalized the terms shortly after we got it first glimpses of the new art, and goes like this:
Unseen: The original art.
Reseen: Project Phoenix-style art.
Classic: Redesigned art harkening back to the Unseen, as used in the current crop of boxed sets, Recognition Guides, and the Kickstarter.
Feel free to ignore folks who say nuSeen, that's not really a thing. ;)
I tend to roll my eyes and shake my head in Wonder about those that say "nuSeen". ::)
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Things still have time to derail, but so far GenCon is apparently going to have a convention in September of this year and IWM and Catalyst have said they are going to be there. As someone who lives relatively close to Indy, I hope it ends up happening. Probably a long shot, but I also hope to see the Raider make an appearance at the IWM booth.
It IS happening, September 16-19. I'm not sure WHAT it would take to cancel it at this point. They were Supposed to start mailing out Badges and Tickets on 31 July, so we're past the "Point of No Return". :thumbsup:
Most of it is never really exclusive . . . you just get first shot.
Some of it is either Exclusive to Conventions OR the Online Store, and I know of at least 1 "Online Only" Retailer (Aries) that can sell them. Otherwise, you can't find them in your local store.
And then again Yes, SOME things ARE Convention Exclusives. I don't know that they've ever sold the clear resin Exterminator anywhere other than at Conventions. So if you didn't make GC '17 or '19, you're Out Of Luck. I've got a pair from each year/production run, and the last run was better than the original. Well, I think the Detail was the same, but the original ('17) was a cloudy/clear, and the newer ('19) was a crystal/clear.
Also, I got TWO of the "Golf Cart of Doom!" at GC '19, and it is NOT available on their store! :thumbsup:
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No, my FLGS now orders directly from IWM and they can get those 'online exclusives' as well.
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You could get the resin exterminator but only because I imagine they had a surplus and had to email the booth gents from BV Traders directly. I was out of fun money when the opportunity arose :'(
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It IS happening, September 16-19. I'm not sure WHAT it would take to cancel it at this point. They were Supposed to start mailing out Badges and Tickets on 31 July, so we're past the "Point of No Return". :thumbsup:
Not to clutter things here, but if the Delta variant (or whatever one we are on by then) seems like it's spiraling out of control and either Indy, the Convention Center, or GenCon decide they can't take the risk then it won't happen and those badges will be pretty worthless (although they might make an interesting collector item). I don't think that's likely, but it is within the realm of possibility.
Also, I got TWO of the "Golf Cart of Doom!" at GC '19, and it is NOT available on their store! :thumbsup:
I must've overlooked the Golf Cart of Doom.
With some other companies I was intending to spend money on not being there, BattleTech might end up being the big expense for me this year at GenCon. Just trying to decide if I need more vehicles or more Mechs from IWM to add to the pile of plastic mechs on the way.
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Honestly, no matter how bad COVID gets, I think that the political authorities would not allow Gencon to cancel.
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++mod notice++
And that's as close to Rule 4 as we're going to get, folks. Are we understood?
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Hello yes where do I nominate the Peacekeeper art from IlClan for a new mini?
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I'd like to see the AS-7K2 Atlas get a mini before the kickstarter version gets made.
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Hooooo boy. After reading IlClan I can't wait to get my hands some new models. Jade Phoenix, Crusable, Amorak, very interesting stuff. Hopefully IWM has a fast turn around. <3
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All of them but the Jade Phoenix have already shown up in the Rec Guides (with the green chicken expected to show up in the final wave).
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Hoping to see the Ion Sparrow and Jade Phoenix make an appearance as soon as possible! :thumbsup:
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I wonder what the next releases will be...
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Any Word on Gen Con stuff? Will we have any "Specials" this year, or just the regular releases? ???
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Any word on the Lich drone mech getting a model? Fan Finance or otherwise, my Word of Blake force needs a big dumb quad mech. Encounter an ECM and turn into a 90 ton brick. Beep boop.
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Any word on the Lich drone mech getting a model? Fan Finance or otherwise, my Word of Blake force needs a big dumb quad mech. Encounter an ECM and turn into a 90 ton brick. Beep boop.
It was said in the Fan Funding thread that it would have to be Fan Funded. :-\
I'd pitch in on it, but I'll never Fully Fund another mini. Still too disappointed on the one I did, PLUS I've NO idea what I'd do with that much Store Credit now! :o That credit before helped me "Play Catch Up" and fill out my Collection. Now I just need to buy the occasional new mini (in pairs or Lances, depending on What they are) to keep my Collection "Current". :thumbsup: I could go for $50.00 or even $100.00 though!
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It was said in the Fan Funding thread that it would have to be Fan Funded. :-\
I'd pitch in on it, but I'll never Fully Fund another mini. Still too disappointed on the one I did, PLUS I've NO idea what I'd do with that much Store Credit now! :o That credit before helped me "Play Catch Up" and fill out my Collection. Now I just need to buy the occasional new mini (in pairs or Lances, depending on What they are) to keep my Collection "Current". :thumbsup: I could go for $50.00 or even $100.00 though!
Got any friends or relatives who play the game? Minis make decent birthday/Christmas presents, especially if they're ones that the person wouldn't normally be getting, like the online exclusives.
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I've got 3 Friends/Brothers that like BT.
One is like me, and rarely gets to play. When he does, it's usually with me. ;D Sadly, that isn't all that often as he's about 3.5 hours away, with a Family and grandkids, so he's pretty busy. He's got a modest Collection, but like me, he buys new minis that catch his eye.
The other 2 are a Father/Son, with the Father recently remarried. After 22 years of the Cold Shoulder from his last Ex, the Father is now more interested in his wife and "Extracurricular Activities" than ANYTHING else. ;D The Father has quite a BT Mini Collection, but it's currently in storage. In MY basement. ;D The Son has 2 part-time jobs, and I haven't heard from him since early this year. :-\ He's got 20 or so minis, but I don't have any idea what he's into.
Again, I'd go as much as $100.00 towards the Lich Quad, Probably the same for any other Quad except the Celerity. Sorry, but I just don't care for the Art for that one. :-\ Then again, I didn't care for the Art for the Sarath, but I LOVE the mini for it. :thumbsup: Same thing for the Jaguar. My feelings for the Art got upgraded to "Ehhh, it's ok." after the minis were released. There's a few others that I can't think of at the moment that I didn't care for the Art, but I liked the mini enough to get a pair of them. I'd help out with any Quad-Vees also! :thumbsup:
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I wonder what the next releases will be...
I know what one of them is. Its not what you'd expect. But its what you'd want.
*I did not sculpt it
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Come on, Buster! Come on, Buster!
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I know what one of them is. Its not what you'd expect. But its what you'd want.
*I did not sculpt it
I hope it to be a prime example of BattleTech.
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I hope it to be a prime example of BattleTech.
As I am not authorized to say literally anything, I will only say it is really, really cool. Anything more and you'll have to harass Speck :D
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Are there any plans to offer the various Scapha hovertanks individually? I really want to order a small handful, but that mega pack is more than a little pricey.
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I know what one of them is. Its not what you'd expect. But its what you'd want.
*I did not sculpt it
Only when it's from Succession Wars or Clan Invasion Eras...
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Are there any plans to offer the various Scapha hovertanks individually? I really want to order a small handful, but that mega pack is more than a little pricey.
I can add that request to my list. It is something I have been wanting to do for awhile now.
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Any Word on Gen Con stuff? Will we have any "Specials" this year, or just the regular releases? ???
Nope, as of now its just some backlog web only items and maybe something else if there is time.
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I can add that request to my list. It is something I have been wanting to do for awhile now.
Good thing I'm not sitting on a lot of them...<looks at the 6 on the shelf>...Sigh
LOL It's all good. I think it's a good idea to part them out honestly, and I'm all for it. Never thought to ask if it could be done.
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How many Scaphas are in a pack?
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How many Scaphas are in a pack?
9 of them. Prime through H
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That's a lot of hovertanks. No wonder it's so pricey.
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That's a lot of hovertanks. No wonder it's so pricey.
LOL yeah, but you've got to admit, it's the only design FULLY sculpted for all variants (If I recall)!
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LOL yeah, but you've got to admit, it's the only design FULLY sculpted for all variants (If I recall)!
Loki Mk II! But it only has 2 variants lol...
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Loki Mk II! But it only has 2 variants lol...
That's right!
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LOL yeah, but you've got to admit, it's the only design FULLY sculpted for all variants (If I recall)!
Also, the only design that had a mini sculpted with one of the turrets before there was stats. Had stats created for it and several variants that had parts made for them.
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Also, the only design that had a mini sculpted with one of the turrets before there was stats. Had stats created for it and several variants that had parts made for them.
I had heard of that, but didn't know if it was official or not. Good to know!
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I can add that request to my list. It is something I have been wanting to do for awhile now.
Sweet, thanks!
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I wonder what we can expect for next Year - some Classic Mechs with the new Design and multiple Configurations / Weapon options would be very nice.
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I will be holding off painting some of the KS mechs waiting for arms and parts to modify them.
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I don't know that they've ever sold the clear resin Exterminator anywhere other than at Conventions.
I got one by contacting the people who do the conventions, apparently called bvtraders. Had to e-mail them and ask though.
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I got one by contacting the people who do the conventions, apparently called bvtraders. Had to e-mail them and ask though.
Yeah, Mike and Chuck are Great guys! :thumbsup:
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And make sure to keep an eye out for updates from Iron Wind Metals, as we’re working closely with them on producing miniatures for the ’Mechs debuting in the RecGuide.
https://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/
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any word on the coming quarter?
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Hey Speck! Since Gen Con is NEXT week (9 days from when I'm typing this), can you say IF IWM will have ANY "Convention Specials" at all this year? ???
While we're used to CGL waiting until 3-4 days before the Con to announce anything they "Plan" on having at GC, IWM Usually tells us 3-4 WEEKS out. So far though, not a peep, aside from that they intend to have "Something". :-\
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Nope, as of now its just some backlog web only items and maybe something else if there is time.
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Nope, as of now its just some backlog web only items and maybe something else if there is time.
That's from 2.5 weeks ago, and was in reply to ME asking before that. Things can Sometimes change in that length of time.
I asked/tagged Speck specifically since I know he works closely with IWM. Thus, I figured HE if Anyone on these Forums, would know.
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Just a FYI, the below items have been added to the online store in the New Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr) Category. Some I added last week, tonight I added two more OP parts, Heavy Laser sprue and Equipment sprue.
BT-445 BattleMech Recovery Vehicle
BT-463 War Crow A
BT-467 Hierofalcon B
OP-115 Heavy Lasers
OP-116 Equipment
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Oh I like that equipment sprue
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Oh I like that equipment sprue
It is nice.
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I saw other stuff in the link, but not OP-116
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https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr/product/battletech-op-116
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Something of a note with the missile plates as well. Small plates are 1 row high. Medium 2, Large 3, XL 4, and XXL 5. With that, you can mix and match. If you want to put an LRM 15 and a Narc inside an XXL launcher, it should definitely fit. Same goes for 2X SRM6s in an XL launcher. So on and so forth.
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That equipment sprue looks really cool. How big are the AMS? If I wanted to mount them to a Nova A configuration (BT-013) would they look out of place?
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Inquiring minds want to know: what is in the pipeline?
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Inquiring minds want to know: what is in the pipeline?
Good point, would be nice to know...
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Inquiring minds want to know: what is in the pipeline?
I was going to ask that too!
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Hopefully Ion Sparrows and Carrion Crows :thumbsup:
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I would throw money at a mastodon
That or maybe one of the new IS mechs. Anything but the fiddler crab or whatever it is. No one wants that.
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I hope for more classic 3025 Mechs in the new design...
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I would throw money at a mastodon
That or maybe one of the new IS mechs. Anything but the fiddler crab or whatever it is. No one wants that.
I dont know, it might be funny to have three Fiddler Crabs to support a Crab.
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There's no Fiddler Crab but there's Hermit Crab.
And now i wish there was a Fiddler Crab 'Mech too.
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I hope for more classic 3025 Mechs in the new design...
I hope some of the variants for mechs like the Commando and Griffin get released.
There's no Fiddler Crab but there's Hermit Crab.
And now i wish there was a Fiddler Crab 'Mech too.
Give it a big gun in one arm and a small laser in the other.
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There's no Fiddler Crab but there's Hermit Crab.
And now i wish there was a Fiddler Crab 'Mech too.
The 75 ton crab is still an option…
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I hope some of the variants for mechs like the Commando and Griffin get released.
Agree.
I would like to see from the 3025 Era
Javelin
Urbanmech
Jenner
Raven
Vindicator
Hunchback
Dragon
Warhammer
Archer
Rifleman
Maurauder
Awesome
Stalker
Atlas
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Hello, are you familiar with the Kickstarter?
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Hello, are you familiar with the Kickstarter?
Why do you ask.
I'm (like many other) not interested in those plastic Mechs.
Why would I wanna IWM ask to bring them in metal.
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Hello Daritus1988,
Whilst CGL has stated in the past that all KS redesigns will be shared with IWM, I think it's safe to
say that metal versions of all the new Mechs won't be available soonTM.
IWM had 3 Battletech releases/quarter (before Covid threw a spanner in the Mechworks),so it would
take them multiple years at least to get all of the designs done.
At the moment, the fastest way of getting the new versions would be the KS plastics.
@ Speck :
Without giving us any specific dates, is there any possibility of getting some kind of roadmap of future
Battletech releases ? I'd personally be interested in knowing which variant(s) of the Wolverine are on the
table and if the reseen Valkyrie and Wasp are going to be redone to fit with the KS plastic versions.
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Why do you ask.
I'm (like many other) not interested in those plastic Mechs.
Why would I wanna IWM ask to bring them in metal.
I am sorry but your reply is confusing?
If you are expecting IWM to produce the image from your avatar in metal, it simply will not happen. The 'plastic' mechs is what will get reproduced in metal when IWM eventually gets to it. It has taken, what 4 years? to get most of the 9 from the Beginner/GoAC boxes produced.
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There's no Fiddler Crab but there's Hermit Crab.
And now i wish there was a Fiddler Crab 'Mech too.
Oops! My bad!
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I use three Crabs to support my King, works very well. Like a mama with her babies. Funny I ran a Level II like that as well... Nasty way of giving someone the " crabs ".
TT
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Hello Daritus1988,
Whilst CGL has stated in the past that all KS redesigns will be shared with IWM, I think it's safe to
say that metal versions of all the new Mechs won't be available soonTM.
IWM had 3 Battletech releases/quarter (before Covid threw a spanner in the Mechworks),so it would
take them multiple years at least to get all of the designs done.
At the moment, the fastest way of getting the new versions would be the KS plastics.
@ Speck :
Without giving us any specific dates, is there any possibility of getting some kind of roadmap of future
Battletech releases ? I'd personally be interested in knowing which variant(s) of the Wolverine are on the
table and if the reseen Valkyrie and Wasp are going to be redone to fit with the KS plastic versions.
I do not have any information about when IWM can produce the KS mechs, I have requested the information and when I can share something I will.
I should be able to share the 1st quarter 2022 release soon. Updated Release Schedule on IWM website.
As for the Wolverine, Disto has 6R and 6D and Web only release will be 7M, 7M2 and 7K.
I have nothing to share about the Valkyrie and Wasp.
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Thanks Speck! Can't wait!
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How many wolverines can I justify buying?: A Case Study
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How many wolverines can I justify buying?: A Case Study
All of them...with multiple -7M's
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I do not have any information about when IWM can produce the KS mechs, I have requested the information and when I can share something I will.
I should be able to share the 1st quarter 2022 release soon. Updated Release Schedule on IWM website.
As for the Wolverine, Disto has 6R and 6D and Web only release will be 7M, 7M2 and 7K.
I have nothing to share about the Valkyrie and Wasp.
Awesome, thanks for your work! Nice to see the Wolverine.
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Thanks Speck, much appreciated ! Great to see 5 Wolverine variants unleashed.
The Winter 2021 release schedule also mentions an Atlas II.. Hm, Anthony did a concept sketch for the Legends book
(Patreon - Dec 8th, 2020) and mentioned the following at that point :
Was able to re-use a fair bit of Atlas parts in the design (and subsequent 3D model) so that sped things up a lot.
Will be interesting to see if the IWM mini uses this sketch/3D as a basis..
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The Winter 2021 release schedule also mentions an Atlas II.. Hm, Anthony did a concept sketch for the Legends book
(Patreon - Dec 8th, 2020) and mentioned the following at that point :
Was able to re-use a fair bit of Atlas parts in the design (and subsequent 3D model) so that sped things up a lot.
Will be interesting to see if the IWM mini uses this sketch/3D as a basis..
:o
I completely missed the Atlas II when i first checked the updated schedule.
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And the german Fantasywelt-Shop has them already listed for December.
(https://bilderupload.org/image/81e569436-6eb160de1de89d90583656943.jpg)
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The Archer is already out in the the wild. I've customized serial already. The Wolverine will be popular I'm sure.
And the german Fantasywelt-Shop has them already listed for December.
(https://bilderupload.org/image/81e569436-6eb160de1de89d90583656943.jpg)
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So only one new mech, and the rest are yet more variants? :(
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With the nuseen it’s gonna be that way for a bit most likely. I’d like to see 3085 and 3145 finished off but I understand why the Wolverine is a more desirable pick than the Kuma or Parash
Raider should hit fairly soon.
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Only one of those is a Classic. There are already two Phoenix Archers, and why is the Atlas II getting a variant that, going by model number, is identical to the already-released one?
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I think that Atlas is supposed to be from the HBS PC game.
But yes, I agree.
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it's a resculpt not a variant. i understand that doesn't change its classification for you but it's a non-trivial distinction in the macro
the AS7-D-HT is the HBS variant
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I did not know it was a resculpt. Did the mold for the first one die an early death or something?
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I did not know it was a resculpt. Did the mold for the first one die an early death or something?
I'd imagine access to modern 3d model of the Atlas II is the driving thing here. The Atlas II was modeled for BattleTech Legends, for single entry.
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I did not know it was a resculpt. Did the mold for the first one die an early death or something?
I'd imagine access to modern 3d model of the Atlas II is the driving thing here. The Atlas II was modeled for BattleTech Legends, for single entry.
And besides visually matching that, it would also- I expect- more closely visually match the HBS model.
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A lot of the minis from TRO 3075 were pretty terrible. IWM had some issues for a few years.
And besides visually matching that, it would also- I expect- more closely visually match the HBS model.
No, the HBS model was identical to the stock Atlas.
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HBS made no distinction . . . but the HBS Atlas II RS used the old Atlas II image. But it will also look different than the Atlas II Legends render- for one the BFG is not on the arm but in the torso. Each arm only has 1 laser . . . question is will you be able to make Kerensky's from Legends off the difference in the chassis. It might visually match closer to the Atlas as a intermediary step to the standard Atlas, a 'missing link' if you will in the mech's evolution.
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So.... looks like the new minis we're getting are the Atlas II, Viking IIC, Wolverine 6R/6D?
Based on the arguments as to why were are getting a new Atlas II, I hope that includes an updated Savage Wolf....
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Updated Vulture Mk IV and Mad Cat Mk IV minis would be great.
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So.... looks like the new minis we're getting are the Atlas II, Viking IIC, Wolverine 6R/6D?
Based on the arguments as to why were are getting a new Atlas II, I hope that includes an updated Savage Wolf....
AFAIK, the Atlas II does not have tiny nubs to attach arms?
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I think I'd prefer new rec guide mechs. My ravens need cheetah, howler and carrion crows.
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I did not know it was a resculpt. Did the mold for the first one die an early death or something?
The original sculpt is pretty bad. I'd want to put out a better version, too.
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Atlas II resculpt? Interesting.
I always wanted to paint up Devlin Stones Atlas II...but the mini left a bit to be desired. It still sits in its blister.
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Iron Cheetah would be nice, been waiting for that one for years (even better that it is cannon now).
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You will still be waiting a while . . . I expect the original TRO3025 mechs to be completed and then most the original Clan 16 Omnis before that thing is gotten into production. But, bright side is you just need a few parts from the KS Clan Omnis to make one yourself.
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Given that we've already gotten the Heirofalcon, War Crow, Sojourner, and
Dumbwaiter Dominator, I think we won't have to wait all that long.
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And they also have not done the Hammerhead, Cricket, or Rawhide . . . the KS shows they had demand for those designs and of the ones you named, IIRC the Heirofalcon was the most 'recently' released. The Iron Cheetah came in #20 . . . like I said, you can make one from parts- and thus I would expect the Dire Wolf, Timber Wolf and Warhawk to be released first.
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Attempting to divine the new release schedule is about as effective as blindfolded darts. there are a number of factors that determine what they produce - most of which I assume we don't even know about
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I imagine IWM has little input and it is up to CGL. But I only imagine, not know
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From what happened with the White Raven, I imagine they withhold things- or ask for them to be- otherwise it is probably open.
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I guess what I was thinking about more was the cost angle. And that really is inquiring about things that we don't know (or at least I don't) and we probably will never know.
Basically, when a sculpt gets decided on, who does the deciding and then who pays for it? Just because IWM and before them Ral Partha have done the miniatures, doesn't mean they are the game experts. So I imagine there is some direction from CGL. And then with the money side, who pays for the sculpts?
Is IWM paying to make the sculpts in the hopes they can recoup the costs? Because that does seem kind of backwards -- they are providing a service to a different company and would be taking on all the risk, which is not a business model I would run. I would suspect CGL pays to have the sculpts made. That's where fan funding makes sense to me: IWM is open to making the sculpt; CGL is OK with it, but doesn't want to put forward the funds.
So when it comes to what sculpt is made next, CGL is in charge there. Which is why the White Raven/fan funding thing happened. CGL changed its mind.
But if that isn't the case, I would love to know. I just don't expect to actually ever know.
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What it looks like, from the outside: IWM licence rights to product minis for BT from, probably, Topps (I could be wrong here.) If so, as long as Topps gets their annual royalties check, they don't get involved one little bit.
In the past, and still now, IWM commissions the production of mini masters independantly. They have to be based on CGL-owned art (eg. not on MWDA minis, unless they have CGL art.) IWM pays the sculptor directly. This is how fan funding works, except IWM solicit for the money to pay the sculptor, and provide bennies to the contributors. If it's not fan-funded, then IWM feel they'll make a profit on the sales of that mini, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
But IWM of course talks to CGL. And these days, CGL makes (commissions) plastic minis. if CGL says "We'd like you to let us get mini X out in plastic", then IWM wisely work with CGL. And if CGL says "no worries", then no problem. They may also get access to the 3D modelling done for the KS minis, which would make life easier when it came to making masters.
Given IWM is spiritually a child of FASA, and given CGL is spiritually a child of FASA, it's not like they don't know each other. But it's worth noting BT is now how IWM makes salary - they do much more work for other gaming companies. But they still loyally support us mini addicts.
The above is purely personal interpretation, based on things like participation in fan-funding, but no sekret inzider knowledge.
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If that's the case, then IWM really goes out of the way for us.
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Yes, that's 100% true - Mike Noe and his reputable crew are great supporters of our game.
Remember in their previous digs, they didn't have enough room to keep all BT minis in stock, hence the Archive - it cost a bit extra, but they'd spin up what you wanted from the low-selling items when you wanted it.
Remember what the cutoff to go into Archive was? Sale of 6 units/year. Can you imagine most companies keeping the minis available for production at an insanely low rate like that?
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Looking at this I'm seeing two of the Fan Funded designs getting a release soon. Raider isn't mentioned and I'm a bit disappointing the warship i funded mid-June hasn't gotten done yet.
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Yes, that's 100% true - Mike Noe and his reputable crew are great supporters of our game.
Remember in their previous digs, they didn't have enough room to keep all BT minis in stock, hence the Archive - it cost a bit extra, but they'd spin up what you wanted from the low-selling items when you wanted it.
Remember what the cutoff to go into Archive was? Sale of 6 units/year. Can you imagine most companies keeping the minis available for production at an insanely low rate like that?
And it kinda says something that some minis like the Thunderbolt 9NAIS got archived within a year of being released.
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I mean they have the full line of Vor: The Maelstrom minis available. A game that died with FASA twenty years ago. Dudes are straight up dedicated to the cause and we're lucky for that.
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Yup
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With view on the Boxed Sets and what get redesigned I guess Awesome and Battlemaster are the next Classic Mechs by IWM.
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With view on the Boxed Sets and what get redesigned I guess Awesome and Battlemaster are the next Classic Mechs by IWM.
I wonder if IWM's can release them at any rate they want or are limited to a certain number per quarter?
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I wonder if IWM's can release them at any rate they want or are limited to a certain number per quarter?
For the past year or so it’s been 3 a quarter, plus some online exclusive ones throughout. And they missed a quarter last year (fall), not sure if it’s a COVID thing or a 3 outta 4 ain’t bad thing.
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It is, they had more quarterly releases a few years ago (4 or 5?) and you have to admit the demand for the KS mechs is there based on how quickly this has all been selling out.
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I'm just remembering the Warhammer Preview and Marauder preview pics we got a few years back and still no release.
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I think that they're going to have to redo those to match the Kickstarter minis.
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I think that they're going to have to redo those to match the Kickstarter minis.
Didn't they have the new NewSeen design?
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They probably want to change a few things hings- get rid of the keying so it's posable, maybe add a joint or two
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Those preivew prototypes were made several years before the KS was a thing, dating all the way back to Combat Manual Mercenaries in the case of the Warhammer. You'd have to compare the pictures in the book with the KS mini to see how similar they are
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Ideally, each quarter I would love to see one of the new rec guide mechs, one of the redesigned plastics in metal form, one variant of a redesign already in metal, and another random unit that is not already in production.
Its hard to get the excitement for the new era in full swing with less then a 3rd of the new units having a mini.
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Thanks Speck, much appreciated ! Great to see 5 Wolverine variants unleashed.
The Winter 2021 release schedule also mentions an Atlas II.. Hm, Anthony did a concept sketch for the Legends book
(Patreon - Dec 8th, 2020) and mentioned the following at that point :
Was able to re-use a fair bit of Atlas parts in the design (and subsequent 3D model) so that sped things up a lot.
Will be interesting to see if the IWM mini uses this sketch/3D as a basis..
Atlas II mini was created by Anthony. So it is based on his sketch for sure.
Looking at this I'm seeing two of the Fan Funded designs getting a release soon. Raider isn't mentioned and I'm a bit disappointing the warship i funded mid-June hasn't gotten done yet.
Both of them are in process, will not be listed until they are in hand at IWM.
With view on the Boxed Sets and what get redesigned I guess Awesome and Battlemaster are the next Classic Mechs by IWM.
Those are being worked on, once they are far enough along they will be slotted for release.
It is, they had more quarterly releases a few years ago (4 or 5?) and you have to admit the demand for the KS mechs is there based on how quickly this has all been selling out.
As of now I do not know when KS mechs will be available to IWM. Those discussions are between Mike and CGL.
I'm just remembering the Warhammer Preview and Marauder preview pics we got a few years back and still no release.
IWM had nothing to do with those. They were 3D printed prototypes that CGL had done.
Ideally, each quarter I would love to see one of the new rec guide mechs, one of the redesigned plastics in metal form, one variant of a redesign already in metal, and another random unit that is not already in production.
Its hard to get the excitement for the new era in full swing with less then a 3rd of the new units having a mini.
Ideally I would like to plan something like that and I have tried. But recently it has been in flux and what models are far enough along are used for a release.
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I mean they have the full line of Vor: The Maelstrom minis available. A game that died with FASA twenty years ago. Dudes are straight up dedicated to the cause and we're lucky for that.
People still buy those minis and even play the game from talking to one of the customers.
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I think that Atlas is supposed to be from the HBS PC game.
But yes, I agree.
Nope, the new art was done for Legends and it was made available to IWM to produce the mini from it. The distro release has the H and H2 in it. Than a web only release will be of the Devilin stone variant.
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Not quite how the answer abou gave went. The mech is from HBS, used in the House Arano SB with a record sheet showing a stock Atlas II image, and the lay out is different enough from the other Atlas IIs that the torso and IIRC both arms would be different than the previously used model.
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Unless abou started working at Ironwind in the last few months, or was otherwise involved in designing the new art, I feel like we have a pretty good idea of who is more likely to be correct on that front.
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Wow... that escalated. ???
I was just mistaken as I didn't realize it was a resculpt rather than a variant.
I still think the best Atlas II is the custom version that was made by Michael Holzapfel for the GenCon diorama.
BTW, I am anxiously awaiting news on some fan funded stuff. So fingers crossed.
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Unless abou started working at Ironwind in the last few months, or was otherwise involved in designing the new art, I feel like we have a pretty good idea of who is more likely to be correct on that front.
Apologies, the HBS was D-HT rather than D2- I had them confused. IF the D-HT was being released, it would have required a different torso and arms as I said.
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The raider should look great the art gave plenty to work with
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I am very excited to see the Raider! I don't remember but you can make either variant? For sure will need two upon release.
Lots of good stuff in the update, thank you Speck!
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Pretty sure the raider funded both variants
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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I add the Summer Releases to the IWM web store in the New Release Category (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr).
20-5194 Sojourner Prime 60
20-5195 Archer ARC-9W 70
20-5196 Goliath C
I also moved the weapon and equipment parts to there own folder in the ScrapYard folder. (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-oe/category/scrapyard-weapon-and-equipment-parts)
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Very nice! Always love me some good updates.
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Nope, the new art was done for Legends and it was made available to IWM to produce the mini from it. The distro release has the H and H2 in it. Than a web only release will be of the Devilin stone variant.
Very cool news, I will definitely have to get one of those.
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Nope, the new art was done for Legends and it was made available to IWM to produce the mini from it. The distro release has the H and H2 in it. Than a web only release will be of the Devilin stone variant.
Sweet, does that mean IWM will get the Savage Wolf artwork for a release in the future as well?
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Sweet, does that mean IWM will get the Savage Wolf artwork for a release in the future as well?
It could be possible, but since that is just new art I do not know if there is a 3D base model for it.
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Is the new Phoenix archer scaled to the recent emphasis on 1:265? Were older project phoenix sculpts at 1:265?
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I'd really love to see a Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrow mini! :D
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Iron Cheetah, carrion Crow, Devil, hammerhead.
The Ravens really do get a nice ilclan era lineup
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Can't wait for a new Metal Awesome. That would be.. awesome...
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Is the new Phoenix archer scaled to the recent emphasis on 1:265? Were older project phoenix sculpts at 1:265?
While I can't answer your question about scaling, the new Phoenix Archer (ARC-9W) looks great compared to both the old Phoenix Archer (ARC-8M) and the new Classic plastic sculpt from the kickstarter (ARC-2R).
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Speck, any word on the Commando and Thunderbolt Variants? ??? I checked page 1 of this thread, and comments in November 2020 were mentioning them being in the works. But then later "A Snag" had occurred, and they were delayed, and we've heard nothing more about them since. :'(
In a post from 21 FEB, 2021, you mention a Wolverine Variant. Did we ever get that? Or is that the -1R/-3R blister? ???
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I believe the Wolverine Variant is the Wolverine 6R/6D mini that's currently scheduled for Winter 21 release.
https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main
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I believe the Wolverine Variant is the Wolverine 6R/6D mini that's currently scheduled for Winter 21 release.
https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main
Cool, Thanks! :thumbsup:
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Appears the wolverine, atlas II, and Viking have been released into the wild.
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Appears the wolverine, atlas II, and Viking have been released into the wild.
Yep! LOL
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Speck, could I ask what's up with the Raider? Kinda sad to see the Viking IIC getting released sooner, when the Raider was funded earlier. Is there an unavoidable holdup?
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Speck, any word on the Commando and Thunderbolt Variants? ??? I checked page 1 of this thread, and comments in November 2020 were mentioning them being in the works. But then later "A Snag" had occurred, and they were delayed, and we've heard nothing more about them since. :'(
In a post from 21 FEB, 2021, you mention a Wolverine Variant. Did we ever get that? Or is that the -1R/-3R blister? ???
Still in the works, need to get an update on those and the Awesome and BattleMaster.
Wolverine is now out and there are other variants in a web only release coming soon.
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Speck, could I ask what's up with the Raider? Kinda sad to see the Viking IIC getting released sooner, when the Raider was funded earlier. Is there an unavoidable holdup?
It is still in process.
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Kind of want to ask about the Defender as well. But I know I'll get the same answer!
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Kind of want to ask about the Defender as well. But I know I'll get the same answer!
That is very close to being completed by the sculptor.
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Defender?!?!
Warship or Medium Fighter?
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Defender?!?!
Warship or Medium Fighter?
Warship of course!
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Warship of course!
Fantastic...been a while since one of those came out.
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Love the new Atlas II.
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Pardon my ignorance, but why was the atlas II resculpted and why does it differ from the TRO art?
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Anthony Scroggins in the Legends book for Devlin Stone's article
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Pardon my ignorance, but why was the atlas II resculpted and why does it differ from the TRO art?
TRO art is precisely why there a resculpt. This is my own opinion, but it was ugly. Not in good scary way. Later renditions of Atlas II such as on the cover of the original Strategic Operations certainly improve the Mech appearance. From that Dark Vader without a helmet cartoon look to what was done in Legends.
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Anthony Scroggins in the Legends book for Devlin Stone's article
Plus, the mini was not a good match to the TRO art: The head and upper waist are significantly elongated, making it look rather awkward. The upper waist is also much wider than the art, and the arms/shoulders are attached too high up on the torso. It can be corrected, but is about as intimidating as the 2nd metal Atlas sculpt.
The new Atlas II artwork looks much better than the new Atlas artwork. Head proportions and positioning are spot on.
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I'm excited whenever IWM releases a new miniature, even if it is a resculpt of a fairly new miniature. Although... I think the original Atlas II miniature is 10 years old now? And technology has really improved IWM's ability to make models with better scaling and detail.
It sounds like we've got the following miniatures on the immediate horizon:
AWS-8Q Awesome (Classic design from AGoAC)
BLR-1G Battlemaster (Classic design from AGoAC)
Defender (Warship from Field Manual 2765 - AFFS)
Thunderbolt variant (TDR-5SE? TDR-7M?)
Commando variant (COM-3A? COM-3S?)
Raider (TRO 3150)
Would not be surprised to see a Savage Wolf resculpt come out in 2022, along with remaining ilClan sourcebook mechs like the Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrow.
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The original Atlas II was really awful. I am sorry to say that but they really dropped the ball. The threatening head? Looks more like a pig head. The neck looks more like a cowl and the miniature looks as if it was strechted. Don't get me wrong.. you can make it look nice. It took me 2 days of adding extra pieces for that.
The original art was way better and then we had the fantastic art from the Legends book. The new miniature is a great improvement and, finally, does justice to the Atlas II. Well done from IWM to improve the miniature.
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The original Atlas II was really awful. I am sorry to say that but they really dropped the ball. The threatening head? Looks more like a pig head. The neck looks more like a cowl and the miniature looks as if it was strechted. Don't get me wrong.. you can make it look nice. It took me 2 days of adding extra pieces for that.
I saw a heavily modified Atlas II on the CSO website, was painted by GunjiNoKanrei in in Stone's Lament colors, presumably Devlin Stone's own mech. Was that your work? That was my favorite iteration of the Atlas II until now. I spent considerable time magnetizing and painting up my Atlas II but I've only had it on the game board once... Anyways, i'll definitely be picking up an Atlas II in my next order from IWM.
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I've not been active on tabletop front for a while due to no local groups to play with (and my paints died....) so I'm actually forward to getting the new Atlas II, Defender Battlecruiser, and the Raider.
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Just put the new Atlas II mini together, and I am very impressed by it.
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Just put the new Atlas II mini together, and I am very impressed by it.
what variant?
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Hopefully got mine today, have to wait til after work to verify. Bought 3 so I could have both versions and an extra.
Just put the new Atlas II mini together, and I am very impressed by it.
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Just put the new Atlas II mini together, and I am very impressed by it.
Awesome, also have the Devlin Stone variant coming out as a Web only hopefully soon.
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what variant?
H or H2
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main
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H or H2
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main
Sorry, I mean when moneyloving put together theirs, I'm wondering what one they chose.
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i went with the H
the only variant parts are the forearms
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Sorry, I mean when moneyloving put together theirs, I'm wondering what one they chose.
Went with the H2.
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I just put a Viking IIC together and while it looks good, I think there are some serious design issues with the mini.
First of all, the leg sprue is done in such a way that it's super easy to accidentally rip one of the toes right off the foot while removing the leg from the sprue. Second of all, the chin lasers are ridiculously hard to actually attach and keep attached: I got them glued on but one came off when I was attaching the legs and at that point I'd have had to disassemble pretty much the entire mini to get it back on. I think if there had been some way to have made the lasers into a single piece that attached to the chin over a broader area than those tiny divots, it would have been a lot better for assembly.
Other than that, great mini- love the details on the legs and missile pods.
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It sounds like we've got the following miniatures on the immediate horizon:
AWS-8Q Awesome (Classic design from AGoAC)
BLR-1G Battlemaster (Classic design from AGoAC)
Defender (Warship from Field Manual 2765 - AFFS)
Thunderbolt variant (TDR-5SE? TDR-7M?)
Commando variant (COM-3A? COM-3S?)
Raider (TRO 3150)
I can't remember if they said which Commando Variant, but I Think they said -5SE and -5SS for the T-Bolt.
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I just put a Viking IIC together and while it looks good, I think there are some serious design issues with the mini.
First of all, the leg sprue is done in such a way that it's super easy to accidentally rip one of the toes right off the foot while removing the leg from the sprue. Second of all, the chin lasers are ridiculously hard to actually attach and keep attached: I got them glued on but one came off when I was attaching the legs and at that point I'd have had to disassemble pretty much the entire mini to get it back on. I think if there had been some way to have made the lasers into a single piece that attached to the chin over a broader area than those tiny divots, it would have been a lot better for assembly.
Other than that, great mini- love the details on the legs and missile pods.
After much blood, sweat, and swearing, I did manage to get the chin guns attached. Looks fantastic, just easily the most annoying mini that I've assembled in years.
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Fantastic...been a while since one of those came out.
Funded it last May I think? Figured if I paid for the Davion Destroyer years back I might as well get the Defender done as well.
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Just built the 2 Atlas II configs and the 2 Wolverines. Great stuff. Easy to assemble, sockets worked fine, one could pin if needed. Legs have limited poseability, wish they had a bit more range.
Bought extras of both to make a few kitbashes as well. Lady Arano is getting her ride for one.
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Just built the 2 Atlas II configs and the 2 Wolverines. Great stuff. Easy to assemble, sockets worked fine, one could pin if needed. Legs have limited poseability, wish they had a bit more range.
Bought extras of both to make a few kitbashes as well. Lady Arano is getting her ride for one.
Looks good man!! Lady Arano is going to need some shiny new House Arano decals!
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Good thing I saw a restock notice this morning ;D
Looks good man!! Lady Arano is going to need some shiny new House Arano decals!
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I can't wait to put my Atlas II together. Maybe jumped the gun a little bit since theres a Devlin Stone specific one coming out. Oh darn, I will have to buy another!
Will the Devlin Stone Atlas II be in a different pose or just feature a modified torso?
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Speck...just to confirm, aside from the Devlin version...will there also be a Nicholas Kerensky version? I could have sworn that was discussed previously, just can't seem to find it now.
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Speck...just to confirm, aside from the Devlin version...will there also be a Nicholas Kerensky version? I could have sworn that was discussed previously, just can't seem to find it now.
Off-had, NK's version just uses Clan-spec equipment but has identical layout to stock Atlas II, plus extra electronics.
EDIT Wait, that has extra SRM-6. But otherwise stock layout.
I can't remember if they said which Commando Variant, but I Think they said -5SE and -5SS for the T-Bolt.
I thought the T-bolt variant is the 5D, the weird with AC/20 and LRM-10?
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has any sort of schedule for next year been released?
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I saw a heavily modified Atlas II on the CSO website, was painted by GunjiNoKanrei in in Stone's Lament colors, presumably Devlin Stone's own mech. Was that your work? That was my favorite iteration of the Atlas II until now. I spent considerable time magnetizing and painting up my Atlas II but I've only had it on the game board once... Anyways, i'll definitely be picking up an Atlas II in my next order from IWM.
No, mine was a bit cruder. That one was awesome.
I am glad to see that the mech got the miniature it deserves.
(https://i.imgur.com/UokWVwR.jpg)
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I can't wait to put my Atlas II together. Maybe jumped the gun a little bit since theres a Devlin Stone specific one coming out. Oh darn, I will have to buy another!
Will the Devlin Stone Atlas II be in a different pose or just feature a modified torso?
Just different torso.
Speck...just to confirm, aside from the Devlin version...will there also be a Nicholas Kerensky version? I could have sworn that was discussed previously, just can't seem to find it now.
Just Devlin version, no other variants were discussed beyond what is out in the distro release and the coming Devlin.
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Just different torso.
Just Devlin version, no other variants were discussed beyond what is out in the distro release and the coming Devlin.
Ok...thank you Speck. I swear I had heard it at some Pont, maybe it was just conjecture or rumor I had spotted.
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I am glad to see that the mech got the miniature it deserves.
Same! I love the Vader vibe with the new one.
Much improved over my old attempt...
(https://i.imgur.com/GT8n7yw.jpg)
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Same! I love the Vader vibe with the new one.
Much improved over my old attempt...
(https://i.imgur.com/GT8n7yw.jpg)
I always loved your mini for it.
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didn't mind the old one but this one is certainly an improvement for me
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We can only hope that we will see the common Atlas from IWM in 2022.
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You mean from the Rec Guides?
It would be nice but I'm fine with waiting on that and focusing more heavily on mechs that did not get plastic versions.
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#justiceforBusters!
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You mean from the Rec Guides?
It would be nice but I'm fine with waiting on that and focusing more heavily on mechs that did not get plastic versions.
I agree!
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#justiceforBusters!
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/0d8fb7c/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1324+0+0/resize/840x543!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F02%2Fc1%2F0d3b811d4c6dba8d12fd6d5dc74c%2Fla-et-mn-paul-walker-furious-death-20150406-001)
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I certainly like the revised version of the Atlas II over the original one Brent drew.
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I certainly like the revised version of the Atlas II over the original one Brent drew.
Interesting fact, that was actually drawn by Ray Arrastia at the time on an INCREDIBLY tight deadline rather than Brent.
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Interesting fact, that was actually drawn by Ray Arrastia at the time on an INCREDIBLY tight deadline rather than Brent.
I would like to see a roast of Ray. It works because art direction and layout have done an incredible job rejuvenating the game, and he has been a critical piece, and roasts only work if you roast the ones you love.
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has any sort of schedule for next year been released?
Not yet.
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Awesome, Marauder, Warhammer, anyone of this three would be nice for 2022.
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awesome and battlemaster are likely toward the front of the line as they're the final two from the box still uncast
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hammerhead wouldn't surprise me; the stats have been released for a while, it's on clan general, and it is one of the better early RG designs that aren't green bird.
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for sure - or any other mix and match from the wave 1 and 2 recguides.
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hammerhead wouldn't surprise me; the stats have been released for a while, it's on clan general, and it is one of the better early RG designs that aren't green bird.
I would love a Hammerhead . . . I can slice & dice legs from MWDA stuff, but creating that sort of distinctive head . . . I was looking for 3D printed stuff to make one.
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Maybe we will see the Ion Sparrow and the Jade Pheonix next year? 8)
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The Hammerhead talk had me excited, until I realized you were all talking about the mech. Then I cheered up because I remembered the proper Hammerhead already has a mini. :thumbsup:
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The Hammerhead talk had me excited, until I realized you were all talking about the mech. Then I cheered up because I remembered the proper Hammerhead already has a mini. :thumbsup:
It does? Crazy.
*makes notes*
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It does? Crazy.
*makes notes*
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-oe/product/battletech-bt-247/category_pathway-208
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https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-oe/product/battletech-bt-247/category_pathway-208
Well it does have the benefit of being true...
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New Year
I'm curious what we will see more in 2022.
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New Year
I'm curious what we will see more in 2022.
It sounds like we've got the following miniatures on the immediate horizon:
AWS-8Q Awesome (Classic design from AGoAC)
BLR-1G Battlemaster (Classic design from AGoAC)
Defender (Warship from Field Manual 2765 - AFFS)
Thunderbolt variant (TDR-5SE? TDR-7M?)
Commando variant (COM-3A? COM-3S?)
Raider (TRO 3150)
Atlas II Devlin (from Legends artwork)
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It sounds like we've got the following miniatures on the immediate horizon:
AWS-8Q Awesome (Classic design from AGoAC)
BLR-1G Battlemaster (Classic design from AGoAC)
Defender (Warship from Field Manual 2765 - AFFS)
Thunderbolt variant (TDR-5SE? TDR-7M?)
Commando variant (COM-3A? COM-3S?)
Raider (TRO 3150)
Atlas II Devlin (from Legends artwork)
If accurate, that could be most of the years releases right there.
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Well, Defender & Raider were fan funds IIRC? Not sure the variants would count b/c they might just be a single sprue change, so that would be TBolt, Commando & Atlas II. I would bet on a few more new RecGuide releases.
Come on Hammerhead.
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It sounds like we've got the following miniatures on the immediate horizon:
AWS-8Q Awesome (Classic design from AGoAC)
BLR-1G Battlemaster (Classic design from AGoAC)
Defender (Warship from Field Manual 2765 - AFFS)
Thunderbolt variant (TDR-5SE? TDR-7M?)
Commando variant (COM-3A? COM-3S?)
Raider (TRO 3150)
Atlas II Devlin (from Legends artwork)
Good list of stuff in process, I will have to double check the Thunderbolt and Commando Variants. The Atlas II Devlin will be up soon on IWM store. I was just cleaning the parts so I can built it next week. At my in laws this week, I have been cleaning new release minis and mini parts for scrapyard.
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I'd really like to see a Royal/Red Corsair/C 2 version of the Battlemaster.
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Well, Defender & Raider were fan funds IIRC? Not sure the variants would count b/c they might just be a single sprue change, so that would be TBolt, Commando & Atlas II. I would bet on a few more new RecGuide releases.
Come on Hammerhead.
Defender and Raider are fan funded yes. Defender was surprisingly a bargain to fund. Cheaper than what we put into the Dreadnought years ago. I ended up just paying for it.
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If accurate, that could be most of the years releases right there.
Fan funded and variants have typically been online exclusives and outside of the normal 3 per quarter release schedule.
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Defender and Raider are fan funded yes. Defender was surprisingly a bargain to fund. Cheaper than what we put into the Dreadnought years ago. I ended up just paying for it.
I've just started getting into the space stuff and I'm very excited about the Defender. That was all you? Well done!
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I've just started getting into the space stuff and I'm very excited about the Defender. That was all you? Well done!
I did the Davion Destroyer years back as well.
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I did the Davion Destroyer years back as well.
Thanks for doing that one too!
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So with all this talk of fan funding, anything new on the horizon we can throw money at?
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So with all this talk of fan funding, anything new on the horizon we can throw money at?
Whatever it is I'll probably throw money at it! ;)
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(https://browntweedsociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/oliver-twist.jpg)
Please, sir. I want some Tribune...
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I'd like a Gossamer vtol.
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I'm still waiting for the 3025 Goblin Medium Tank... hehe
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I'd like a Gossamer vtol.
Love the stats and about half of the art . . . the helicarrier lift method . . .
BUT . . . I thought we had heard vehicles were going to mostly be fan funded by this point?
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Yes, that's why we're responding to someone who talked about Fan Funding.
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Do we have the Tiger Tank yet?
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I don't think we've gotten anything from the Reunification Wars.
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I think the Concordat ship left the yard.
Honestly the Magistry's fighter has always appealed to me . . . as in the 'find a cache in the Periphery' appeal.
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Do we have the Tiger Tank yet?
No and I REALLY WANT SEVERAL
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I'm game for a Tiger tank funding.
Also, the Estevez looks super cool. Too bad it isn't really viable on the board. But if that came up too, I would be down.
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No and I REALLY WANT SEVERAL
Ditto.
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I want just the Awesome, the Warhammer and the Marauder...
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I want just the Awesome, the Warhammer and the Marauder...
We all do.
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I want just the Awesome, the Warhammer and the Marauder...
Awesome is coming soon, as for the other two I do not know.
Can we move the Fan Funding questions to the Fan Funding Questions (https://bg.battletech.com/forums/fan-financing-2-0/fin-finance-2-0-questions/450/) thread. I have posted a question about FF interest in two items.
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I don't think I've seen an update recently, is there a closer ETA on the IWM versions of the Atlas II and Wolverine? I had assumed they'd drop at the same time as the regular releases and I have a Sword of Light company waiting to be painted until the WVR-K drops.
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They've been out for a month. Unless you were waiting to order them from IWM directly instead of a different store?
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I don't think I've seen an update recently, is there a closer ETA on the IWM versions of the Atlas II and Wolverine? I had assumed they'd drop at the same time as the regular releases and I have a Sword of Light company waiting to be painted until the WVR-K drops.
I need to get them assembled and then pictures done. I am hoping to get to them later this week. Getting caught up on some other items right now.
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I need to get them assembled and then pictures done. I am hoping to get to them later this week. Getting caught up on some other items right now.
Excellent, thank you. Looking forward to them!
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Any word on when the Sojourner B and C will be released? They were fan funded, and the Hierofalcon A and B that were fan funded at the same time have already been released, kudos for the quick release of those by the way.
Just curious, though I will admit my two Sojourner Primes are waiting for their Star-mates.
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Any word on when the Sojourner B and C will be released? They were fan funded, and the Hierofalcon A and B that were fan funded at the same time have already been released, kudos for the quick release of those by the way.
Just curious, though I will admit my two Sojourner Primes are waiting for their Star-mates.
Soon, I have one of them now and hoping to get the other from Mike soon.
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An updated release schedule for 2022 wuld be very nice.
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An updated release schedule for 2022 wuld be very nice.
Hoping to finalize first releases soon.
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Hoping to finalize first releases soon.
Speck, I gotta say we all appreciate everything you do and putting up with us all. Thanks much.
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I have added the Winter 2021 Distribution releases and two web only items to IWM online store in the New Release Category (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/134-winter2021-webstore). I will be adding more web only items as they are ready.
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I can't see the Sojourner C as anything but Mickey Mouse.
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I can't see the Sojourner C as anything but Mickey Mouse.
Any just like that...an April Fools paint scheme has been born.
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So the Atlas II and Atlas II (Devlin) are just different in the torso weapons?
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So the Atlas II and Atlas II (Devlin) are just different in the torso weapons?
Different torso plus the small AMS part.
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Ah, I see it now.
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Does Devlin kit come with the other arm weapons like the H/H2
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Does Devlin kit come with the other arm weapons like the H/H2
No
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Might come with a cyro stasis pod . . .
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Might come with a cyro stasis pod . . .
Even better: we could get a mini of an author in a Fiat in honor of everything that happened in HotW.
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Different torso plus the small AMS part.
Ooh the Devlin Atlas looks great. I will definitely have to get one
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Any movement on what’s gonna be in the next round?
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Any movement on what’s gonna be in the next round?
Things got shuffled around. Once I have confirmation from Mike I will update it.
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Fingers crossed for some fan-funded stuff. Hopefully there is a lot that can get released this year!
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Hammerhead . . . Inferno . . . Marauder . . . Warhammer . . . I can kitbash a Conjurer into a Eris it seems.
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Hammerhead . . . Inferno . . . Marauder . . . Warhammer . . . I can kitbash a Conjurer into a Eris it seems.
The old Ral Partha Assault Lance Boxed Set (10-806) had 1 BattleMaster, 1 MAD, and 2 WHM. I keep Hoping IWM will give us one for the "Gen Con Special" Lance Pack! :excited:
They recreated the old RP Lance Sets several years back, using the Reseen/Project Phoenix Sculpts. We even got Variants in the few cases that had 2 of the same 'Mech. Sadly, they weren't "Retail" releases, so it was just the blisters in plain brown boxes. :'( Nothing even remotely "Fancy" about the packaging.
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I'd settle for a Scout lance with a Phoenix Hawk, Locust, Stinger and Wasp
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Hammerhead . . . Inferno . . . Marauder . . . Warhammer . . . I can kitbash a Conjurer into a Eris it seems.
I mean I'm willing to throw money at just about any fan funding project for the new mechs from the Rec Guides
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I mean I'm willing to throw money at just about any fan funding project for the new mechs from the Rec Guides
I would as well, if anything just to get them out faster. But it’d have to be next round
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I'd settle for a Scout lance with a Phoenix Hawk, Locust, Stinger and Wasp
For a "Retro" LP, that would be the Recon Lance Boxed Set (10-801) - 2 Locusts, Stinger and Phoenix Hawk. Sadly, we currently only have the LCT in Metal of those, but at least we've got 3 Variants, so they could include 2 of them (OR the bits for all 3) in the LP! :thumbsup:
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With the new Mechs (and their designs) and more upcoming, new Lance Packs in the future would be awesome.
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Oddly I'm hoping the Hermit Crab gets a sculpt soon. I'm looking forward to a Horde of them to support a few Crabs and King Crabs.
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New merc unit named . . . 'Revenge of the Crabs'?
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Updated Release Schedule on IWM website.
Already more that 3 Month passed since the last update of the release shedule. I wonder if we soon will see further releases for 2022.
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I'm sure Speck will get to it soon. I just hope IWM can increase the amount of releases pet quarter.
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I just hope IWM can increase the amount of releases pet quarter.
Would be VERY nice...
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Already more that 3 Month passed since the last update of the release shedule. I wonder if we soon will see further releases for 2022.
A lot has changed since than to the schedule. I need to finalize it with Mike and than make sure I can post it. The plan this year is 3 release of 4 Mechs, we stayed with three releases to provide extra time incase issues arrive that could cause delays.
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Four of three… three of four. Potayto potahto
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New merc unit named . . . 'Revenge of the Crabs'?
Ladys of the Night revenge!
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Man there is some good stuff in the pipe... Can't wait to share my sculpt...
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There was a Metal Band, they have a song with the Name "March of the Crabs".
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Man there is some good stuff in the pipe... Can't wait to share my sculpt...
Please tell me it's a Warship.
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Please tell me it's a Warship.
Man there is some good stuff in the pipe... Can't wait to share my sculpt...
I'd laugh if it was blue water!
TT
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Please tell me it's a Warship.
I already have that one and hope to get it up for sale soon.
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I'm sad because I already know its not the Soyal. :(
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New warship!!! How exciting!
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:thumbsup:
I already have that one and hope to get it up for sale soon.
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Please tell me it's a Warship.
Would love to see more Warships....I need a bigger fleet.
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Still no news about upcoming releases?
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Would love to see more Warships....I need a bigger fleet.
Agreed!
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Would love to see more Warships....I need a bigger fleet.
And stronger screws for the display shelf... :thumbsup:
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And stronger screws for the display shelf... :thumbsup:
Thats what Im talking about.
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And stronger screws for the display shelf... :thumbsup:
Bookshelves would be the way to go.
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Bookshelves, the ones with adjustable spacing. Then put another bookshelf in the spaces in between. You can still see the minis in the back, but double the storage.
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Maybe they're gearing up for announcements around Adepticon? I just finished the IlClan books and am desperate to start getting minis of new designs from that and the RegGuides. With the push on the new era and further upcoming book releases to support playing in the IlClan era, I really hope there's an upcoming push to give people minis to support the gaming emphasis.
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Maybe they're gearing up for announcements around Adepticon?
While he can speak for himself of course, I know Speck is always HELLA Busy in the weeks leading up to Conventions. Not only does he have a "Day Job" he has to go to, he's also a few hours away from the IWM Factory, so he can't just "Pop In" for some reason. For years I thought he lived within 30 minutes from IWM! ;D
And then, if IWM doesn't have anything Ready for sale, there's NO "News" for Speck to pass along. :-\ Because they've learned like CGL, if you announce "Something" that you HOPE to have for a certain date/convention, and things beyond their control keep it from happening, the "Fans"/Children will be up in arms crying about it. As a Result, they tend to ONLY announce things that are actually In Production. :-\
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It's best not to annoy Speck. Man does a lot for the community.
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It's best not to annoy Speck. Man does a lot for the community.
QFT
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Had other distractions last few weeks. Just waiting for final okay on first two releases of 2022 and than I will post the list.
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Had other distractions last few weeks. Just waiting for final okay on first two releases of 2022 and than I will post the list.
Thanks for the update!
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We need a GoFundMe account for Speck...
He deserves it.
TT
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We need a GoFundMe account for Speck...
He deserves it.
TT
Yeah, his second job is taking him away from what's important! Keeping us all updated!
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Come out with a couple more warships and I will be a part of that gp fund me
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Release Schedule will be going up tomorrow evening. I ran out of time to create the post after getting caught up on emails.
The wait will be worth it.
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Can't wait!
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AWESOME! I hope there's lots of AWESOME to go around! :thumbsup:
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Finally. A release worth waiting for.
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Release Schedule (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) Update is here.
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Release Schedule (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) Update is here.
Daaaaang... :o
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The CYRANO is finally coming home. Deepcut backlog filling is one of my favorite things
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That's a good list!
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Prime Movers and Wheeled Scouts, woo!
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Woo, nice!
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Wow finally a Cyrano! Lots of good stuff here.
Is the Ryoken the new art style?
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Yeah. Looks to be the metal version of the limited edition resin offering from before
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Yeah, they did that with the Black Knight too it seems. And with the Awesome and Battlemaster, that is all of the GoAC box in metal right?
Wolverine 7M/7M2/7K will be interesting. Oh yeah, happy to see the Saxon too, see how it sizes up to the MWDA one, lol.
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Is the stock Awesome going to be available, or just the two variants listed?
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I'll be getting one of each crow. Maybe an awesome, probably not.
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Wow finally a Cyrano! Lots of good stuff here.
Is the Ryoken the new art style?
Yeah. Looks to be the metal version of the limited edition resin offering from before
Ryoken and Black Knight will be metal versions of the resin models that CGL sold last year.
Yeah, they did that with the Black Knight too it seems. And with the Awesome and Battlemaster, that is all of the GoAC box in metal right?
Wolverine 7M/7M2/7K will be interesting. Oh yeah, happy to see the Saxon too, see how it sizes up to the MWDA one, lol.
BattleMaster and Awesome were the last of the box set mechs. There are a few unfinished variants that will get done and released.
Is the stock Awesome going to be available, or just the two variants listed?
Awesome 8Q / 9Q will come out later.
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My Defender is still TBD? Nooo... :D
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My Defender is still TBD? Nooo... :D
For Determining the price.
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For Determining the price.
One million dollars!
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Thanks for this Speck!
Will IWM be selling the Stormcrow arms separately like they do with the Catapult arms?
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Thanks for this Speck!
Will IWM be selling the Stormcrow arms separately like they do with the Catapult arms?
Most likely at some point after the release
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Glad to see the Prime Mover and Wheeled Scout getting released this year. And I was glad to fund them.
I hope to see them soon.
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One million dollars!
Don't jinx us!
I'm really impressed to see the Cyrano. That's a very old hole being filled in.
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Don't jinx us!
I'm really impressed to see the Cyrano. That's a very old hole being filled in.
I'm just glad that after a year its done.
And now I'm also gonna need a Cyrano and a Regent!
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I foresee entire regiments of Regents painted gold and sporting pistachio-shaped headgear.
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Well already sold for 4 Defenders!!!
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Definitely going to be another one of those designs with more minis purchased than ever existed in universe 😁
Well already sold for 4 Defenders!!!
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I foresee entire regiments of Regents painted gold and sporting pistachio-shaped headgear.
IWM's should do that as a extra!
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What's the Defender Warship from? Is that the assault dropship or an actual warship? I don't seem to find a listing for a Defender-class warship on the MUL.
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What's the Defender Warship from? Is that the assault dropship or an actual warship? I don't seem to find a listing for a Defender-class warship on the MUL.
It's there (http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=Defender). You've got to click on the Advanced Aerospace tag. It's from the 2765 Field Reports from ten years or so ago. The FSS Golden Lion, a hero ship from back in the House Davion book, is a Defender.
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I keep forgetting that the MUL has multiple tab arrangements.
That ship is... suggestive.
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I keep forgetting that the MUL has multiple tab arrangements.
That ship is... suggestive.
Not why I paid for it!
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It's a Davionista provocative first warship in an age of Terran Oppression.
TT
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Battletech warships tend to follow an unfortunate design principle. TRO 3057 notwithstanding, they all skew towards the suggestive side. I'd honestly prefer more of the blockier design aesthetic from 3057, because at least they were all distinct.
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Can I ask you guys that order regularly, do any of the more common mechs use the re-seen models or new designs? (like AGoAC Catapult vs tall skinny Catapult)
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The Thunderbolt and Catapult I just bought were both the AGoC version.
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Can I ask you guys that order regularly, do any of the more common mechs use the re-seen models or new designs? (like AGoAC Catapult vs tall skinny Catapult)
I don't understand the question. IWM sells everything. Unless its an Unseen or one of the really old minis that got resculpted due to mold deterioration, you can get it from IWM. All the Reseen are still available, and there are like a half dozen different Catapult sculpts that you can buy. The tall skinny one is unfortunately not among them, as it is one of the aforementioned minis whose mold deteriorated.
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Can I ask you guys that order regularly, do any of the more common mechs use the re-seen models or new designs? (like AGoAC Catapult vs tall skinny Catapult)
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What are you asking?
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Er, which sculpts use new models I guess?
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I think he means which IWM minis use the new/latest artwork.
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The BattleMaster and Awesome are due later this year, which will mean all mechs from the AGoAC box will be in metal. The ostscout was the first done in metal well before the KS and is the new style
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The BattleMaster and Awesome are due later this year, which will mean all mechs from the AGoAC box will be in metal. The ostscout was the first done in metal well before the KS and is the new style
Roger that and yes, that's what I wanted to know re: current status.
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AGoAC:
Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2 #20-5182
Commando COM-2D #20-5185
Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal #20-5183
Shadow Hawk SHD-2H #20-5141
Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb #20-5169
Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb (LE-jumping) #SHD2Hb-18
Shadow Hawk SHD-2K #BT-399
Thunderbolt TDR-5S #20-5186
Beginner Box:
Griffin GRF-1N #20-5184
Wolverine WVR-6R / WVR-6D #20-5197
Coming SoonTM:
Awesome
BattleMaster
edit: forgot the Wolverine
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I don't understand the question. IWM sells everything. Unless its an Unseen or one of the really old minis that got resculpted due to mold deterioration, you can get it from IWM. All the Reseen are still available, and there are like a half dozen different Catapult sculpts that you can buy. The tall skinny one is unfortunately not among them, as it is one of the aforementioned minis whose mold deteriorated.
The Limited Edition tall Catapult is still available on the store. Which I think comes with the missile launchers in addition to the PPCs.
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The Limited Edition tall Catapult is still available on the store. Which I think comes with the missile launchers in addition to the PPCs.
That is "a" tall Catapult. It's basically 1st sculpt legs with a new, 2nd sculpt-size torso. The 1st sculpt is no longer available.
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AGoAC:
Catapult CPLT-C1 / K2 #20-5182
Commando COM-2D #20-5185
Locust LCT-1V / 1E / 1Vb Royal #20-5183
Shadow Hawk SHD-2H #20-5141
Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb #20-5169
Shadow Hawk SHD-2Hb (LE-jumping) #SHD2Hb-18
Shadow Hawk SHD-2K #BT-399
Thunderbolt TDR-5S #20-5186
Beginner Box:
Griffin GRF-1N #20-5184
Coming SoonTM:
Awesome
BattleMaster
That's what I was looking for, thanks!
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As was stated, all of the box is out or soon will be . . . so the Wolverine is also out.
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That is "a" tall Catapult. It's basically 1st sculpt legs with a new, 2nd sculpt-size torso. The 1st sculpt is no longer available.
There was another tall Catapult? Wow. Lot of sculpts for that mech.
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As was stated, all of the box is out or soon will be . . . so the Wolverine is also out.
You are correct. I thought I had it on there. Fixed now.
There was another tall Catapult? Wow. Lot of sculpts for that mech.
Yes, six distinct sculpts, if memory serves:
PlasTech
1st (metal)
2nd (MechCommander) metal
3rd Beginner Set/Alpha Strike (1st upper torso with modified 2nd legs) metal and plastic
4th Limited Edition (Modified 2nd torso with 1st legs) metal
5th AGoAC metal and plastic
The tall ones (from CSO)
1st:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/5_fanjoy_catapultplains1.jpg)
5th:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/61_izanagi_catapult1.jpg)
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You are correct. I thought I had it on there. Fixed now.
Yes, six distinct sculpts, if memory serves:
PlasTech
1st (metal)
2nd (MechCommander) metal
3rd Beginner Set/Alpha Strike (1st upper torso with modified 2nd legs) metal and plastic
4th Limited Edition (Modified 2nd torso with 1st legs) metal
5th AGoAC metal and plastic
The tall ones (from CSO)
1st:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/5_fanjoy_catapultplains1.jpg)
5th:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/61_izanagi_catapult1.jpg)
Isnt this tall one from a box set?
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Isnt this tall one from a box set?
For the box sets, they essentially took the torso and modified legs to make it possible for use as a single piece in plastic. The result was a much smaller torso and very shortened legs.
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And for "Completion's Sake", there was also the old RPE/MFUK Catapult the CPLT-K2, long before IWM decided to make one. But all the MFUK sculpts are now OOP. :'(
Picture from Dave Fanjoy's site! :thumbsup:
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I hope more warships come out again. Maybe not the pace as before, but it would be nice to see 2 or 3 each year.
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You are correct. I thought I had it on there. Fixed now.
Yes, six distinct sculpts, if memory serves:
PlasTech
1st (metal)
2nd (MechCommander) metal
3rd Beginner Set/Alpha Strike (1st upper torso with modified 2nd legs) metal and plastic
4th Limited Edition (Modified 2nd torso with 1st legs) metal
5th AGoAC metal and plastic
The tall ones (from CSO)
1st:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/5_fanjoy_catapultplains1.jpg)
5th:
(https://camospecs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/61_izanagi_catapult1.jpg)
Pretty sure the 3rd Beginner Set/Alpha Strike (1st upper torso with modified 2nd legs) metal and plastic, was a totally new sculpt like the other beginner set mechs. The body and legs are to small to be used from previous models.
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I hope more warships come out again. Maybe not the pace as before, but it would be nice to see 2 or 3 each year.
We do need the Stefan Amaris Class at the very least.
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Pretty sure the 3rd Beginner Set/Alpha Strike (1st upper torso with modified 2nd legs) metal and plastic, was a totally new sculpt like the other beginner set mechs. The body and legs are to small to be used from previous models.
I sculpted them. ;) The upper torso was a production part, not master. Legs as well, but heavily modified. Shrinkage through the molding process was significant. None of them were totally new sculpts. Existing minis were modified.
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Ravenpult
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We do need the Stefan Amaris Class at the very least.
Yes, I would love a Enterprise class ship too.
But I want all of the ships
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Ravenpult
Ironically enough, I bulked up some of my 25th Anniversary era plastic Catapults with legs from MW:DA Ravens ...
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Yes, I would love a Enterprise class ship too.
But I want all of the ships
The Enterprise class. When the developers decide to mock the heck out of a franchise.
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The Enterprise class. When the developers decide to mock the heck out of a franchise.
This Enterprise....the Supercarrier.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5858/enterprise-super-carrier-standard
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This Enterprise....the Supercarrier.
http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5858/enterprise-super-carrier-standard
Oh I know what it was. And I remember it was a Boondoggle!
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Important Product Announcement (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/135-important-product-announcement-2)
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Sad but understandable.
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Well boo.
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Well, they are not shipping to New Zealand anyway for some inexplicable reason, so I can't get an order in before. Or ever.
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It's because worldwide shipping is still a horrible mess.
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I buy from US retailers all the time, they ship with UPS, it's usually faster and cheaper than USPS.
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Here in Oz in the same boat (or lack thereof). Understand the imperative, and I even have money on hand for the purpose, but it'll have to go elsewhere.
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Everything is increasing in price. :'(
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I buy from US retailers all the time, they ship with UPS, it's usually faster and cheaper than USPS.
I would suggest buying from other US BattleTech retailers before the increase then.
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Sucks for sure. Understandable since everything costs more.
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Now I know why Speck said the reason the Defender price was TBD because they were figuring out the price for after the price hike.
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The costs for the materials that Iron Wind Metals uses have all risen dramatically, especially the cost of pewter, which is more than double what it was in December of 2020.
Big oof
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Well, they are not shipping to New Zealand anyway for some inexplicable reason, so I can't get an order in before. Or ever.
I need to double check New Zealand. I know Australia USPS just started sending some packages again.
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I buy from US retailers all the time, they ship with UPS, it's usually faster and cheaper than USPS.
UPS and FedEx is not cheaper for a company the size of IWM to ship internationally. The rates companies pay differ based on their size and how much they ship.
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Do you have any idea what percentage prices will increase by? Doubling material is huge, but final price also includes labor and fixed costs, which are.. probably not going up as much?
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Thanks for the notice, that helps plan for it. Would it be greedy of me to ask if the Spring releases will go up with the same website maintenance? ;D
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Question for me in germany is, as i would like to order in one go, instead of second run:
When will the spring releases be available? Or can i order them right now (through a note)?
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They haven’t hit retail yet. Once they do IWM observes a period of store exclusivity for a month or two before making them available on the webstore
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Question for me in germany is, as i would like to order in one go, instead of second run:
When will the spring releases be available? Or can i order them right now (through a note)?
Spring 2022 release have not come out yet and are still several weeks away. We had a chance just before I posted them so we are waiting for the 4th mech to come from the printer.
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Do you have any idea what percentage prices will increase by? Doubling material is huge, but final price also includes labor and fixed costs, which are.. probably not going up as much?
I'd like to echo this question, even if all we get is a ballpark answer. I'm currently sitting on a small list of items I want to pick up, and if the price bump is anything but trivial I think it'll push me into ordering ASAP.
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Spring 2022 release have not come out yet and are still several weeks away. We had a chance just before I posted them so we are waiting for the 4th mech to come from the printer.
Any chances the Defender will see release a bit earlier?
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Is it still possible to pick up orders on site? I'll be in that region in the next couple weeks.
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Speck,
Just from idle interest (having just dropped a pre-price-rise order),
- What is the current best selling BT mini?
- Pick one BT mini which hasn't sold this year?
- Any idea of the non-store average order size?
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I'd like to echo this question, even if all we get is a ballpark answer. I'm currently sitting on a small list of items I want to pick up, and if the price bump is anything but trivial I think it'll push me into ordering ASAP.
I will check tonight, I know some areas like scrapyard got a higher increase to larger parts that were priced lower for there size.
Any chances the Defender will see release a bit earlier?
The list of web only I have for release will be next week at earliest. I got confirmation that molding and stock for order will be completed this week.
Is it still possible to pick up orders on site? I'll be in that region in the next couple weeks.
Please will out the contact form (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/site-administrator) on the website and we will go from there.
Speck,
Just from idle interest (having just dropped a pre-price-rise order),
- What is the current best selling BT mini?
- Pick one BT mini which hasn't sold this year?
- Any idea of the non-store average order size?
These first one I can easily check since I was recently looking at this. The other two would be a more in depth look into sales. I will at to my list to check this.
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I will check tonight, I know some areas like scrapyard got a higher increase to larger parts that were priced lower for there size.
The list of web only I have for release will be next week at earliest. I got confirmation that molding and stock for order will be completed this week.
Please will out the contact form (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/site-administrator) on the website and we will go from there.
These first one I can easily check since I was recently looking at this. The other two would be a more in depth look into sales. I will at to my list to check this.
Thank You!
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Speck,
Just from idle interest (having just dropped a pre-price-rise order),
- What is the current best selling BT mini?
- Pick one BT mini which hasn't sold this year?
- Any idea of the non-store average order size?
I was wondering some of these same questions...just as a sort of interest in what other people are interested or not interested in. My tastes are all over the place and I love the fact that there's a huge variety of models to chose from.
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Price increase is done, I fixed the new issues I noticed. But if you see something odd let me know in PM or use the support form.
I'd like to echo this question, even if all we get is a ballpark answer. I'm currently sitting on a small list of items I want to pick up, and if the price bump is anything but trivial I think it'll push me into ordering ASAP.
I am late in answering this, I have been extra busy last few days with getting the price increase update files completed and verified for doing to update this evening. Plus work and home was nuts as well. The increase was between 10% to 20%, depending on the items. As I said some scrap yard parts were more than that, such as the Scylla arms, which are large and were priced on the low side. We did break the $20 on more items then before.
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A couple of questions just occurred to me. Are the metal versions of the Ryuken TC and Black Knight 9KNT going to come in as many pieces as the plastic ones did? Also, are they going to have the arm and leg holes done with normal round slots like most minis or with the shaped holes that force you into one pose option like the plastic minis did?
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A couple of questions just occurred to me. Are the metal versions of the Ryuken TC and Black Knight 9KNT going to come in as many pieces as the plastic ones did? Also, are they going to have the arm and leg holes done with normal round slots like most minis or with the shaped holes that force you into one pose option like the plastic minis did?
Metal versions are using the same files.
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Thank you.
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I'm relieved that the price increase is only on the order of 10-20%. I just hope that the price of metal drops soon, so IWM can maintain profitability.
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It's a shame that there was a price increase. It will make buying doubles of mechs a bit more unattractive. But it is what it is. And I still plan to get mechs from IWM's when needed.
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I'm relieved that the price increase is only on the order of 10-20%. I just hope that the price of metal drops soon, so IWM can maintain profitability.
Me too; the trend line for tin prices over the last five years has been a rocket ship :(
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Fortunately, material cost is only part of the cost.
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Price increase is done, I fixed the new issues I noticed. But if you see something odd let me know in PM or use the support form.
I am late in answering this, I have been extra busy last few days with getting the price increase update files completed and verified for doing to update this evening. Plus work and home was nuts as well. The increase was between 10% to 20%, depending on the items. As I said some scrap yard parts were more than that, such as the Scylla arms, which are large and were priced on the low side. We did break the $20 on more items then before.
Thank you for checking! In the end I pulled the trigger on an order before the bump, knowing I had a pretty set list and could save myself money regardless of the size of the bump.
Now onto compiling the next wantlist...
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Will the Awesome include any other Variants?
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Will the Awesome include any other Variants?
First one releasing is 8R / 8T and later 8Q / 9Q is coming out.
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Hey Speck,
Regarding the upcoming Wolverine Web Only variants, how will the sculpt represent the
single head-mounted laser of the 7K vs. the twin lasers of the 7M/7M2 ? Modular bits ?
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Hey Speck,
Regarding the upcoming Wolverine Web Only variants, how will the sculpt represent the
single head-mounted laser of the 7K vs. the twin lasers of the 7M/7M2 ? Modular bits ?
RT laser is a separate part.
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Thanks for the heads-up, much appreciated !
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Question for me in germany is, as i would like to order in one go, instead of second run:
When will the spring releases be available? Or can i order them right now (through a note)?
Any News here, just asking as a rough timeframe for when i can do an order
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Any News here, just asking as a rough timeframe for when i can do an order
It is unlikely that we will get anything more specific than "Q3" or "Summer", but I agree that more information is nice to have.
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Web Only Releases (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/136-web-only-2022) are available on IWM web store now.
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Oooo Saxon, Cyrano . . . and I have to see which Sojourner I am getting.
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Oooo Saxon, Cyrano . . . and I have to see which Sojourner I am getting.
Two ER Large Pulse Lasers and a Steak 6 with jump jets and ECM.
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Not what I meant, but that is good info.
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Hooray! Wolverine variants purchased, can't wait.
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The prime mover and scouts look great! I'll have to make that purchase soon.
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So many Wolverine variants!
The mind boggles.
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So adding the Defender to my Davion fleet. Gonna be awesome!
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So adding the Defender to my Davion fleet. Gonna be awesome!
Ditto! I actually just started building/painting my fleet. This will be a really cool addition.
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Ditto! I actually just started building/painting my fleet. This will be a really cool addition.
Already have a Davion Destroyer painted. Ordered a Defender and another Davion. Think I have a New Syrtis Carrier but I havent started it yet.
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Hooray! Wolverine variants purchased, can't wait.
So many Wolverine variants!
The mind boggles.
That was my fault lol, seeing what could be done with just a few parts was fun. But I did have to explain the mess to Mike later. All of them came out great.
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I don't know how the sprues worked out but the Wolverine missile launcher would be a great Scrapyard bit if it can be offered. I'm planning on stealing the second off a couple of the new kit to do a Griffin 2N.
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That Defender looks really nice. I have every other WarShip mini, so I'll definitely be picking it up to keep the set complete.
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So glad to see more Warships. Going to get me some of those Defenders!
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So glad to see more Warships. Going to get me some of those Defenders!
I would like to talk to Speck about doing the Amaris Battleship next or maybe the Cruiser class. Getting the ball rolling on the Defender makes me want to do another ship.
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Cruiser! :D
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I would like to talk to Speck about doing the Amaris Battleship next or maybe the Cruiser class. Getting the ball rolling on the Defender makes me want to do another ship.
I would be all about that Amaris Battleship!!
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I would be all about that Amaris Battleship!!
Like the Defender I would be thrilled to get that started. Defender was pretty cheap though and I have a feeling the Amaris would be alot more expensive (at least for me to handle alone!) for the sheer detail in comparison. Only Speck could tell us for sure. So I have sent him a PM!
Cruiser! :D
Beer Keg in SPACE!
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Soyal plzkthanksbai
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Soyal plzkthanksbai
You could always ask Speck. But I can handle one warship a year, not two.
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Is there anyway to add the Kruger Combat Car to the fan funded consideration list? I really like the look of the art and stats.
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Do we know when the Spring 2022 distributor release is happening?
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You could always ask Speck. But I can handle one warship a year, not two.
I can help! Would love to see more ships.
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Heck, I'm still waiting for the Wildfire, Prometheus and Epimetheus to be made into minis.
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I was always disappointed that the Wildfire didn't make the Solaris section of TRO 3055U. Unbound even says that its prospects for production were excellent. At this point, the Unbound 'Mechs have to be some of the oldest published 'Mechs without minis.
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Seeing the Prometheus done with the parts from the 2000s-era Omni resculpts would have been great. Unfortunately, we probably missed the boat. It might just have to wait for the 3D files from the current crop of minis.
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Funny that...I have a baggie of parts I just need to sit down and work on with.
Seeing the Prometheus done with the parts from the 2000s-era Omni resculpts would have been great. Unfortunately, we probably missed the boat. It might just have to wait for the 3D files from the current crop of minis.
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Do we know when the Spring 2022 distributor release is happening?
This ship next week and a few weeks after that IWM store.
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Hey speck, I sent a message thru the IWM site after my last order came, but I'm a little confused on the new variant Wolverine kit. The new weapon sprue comes with with right side missile launcher and laser option, but the new arm gun sprue does not come with the left side launcher so the kit cannot currently build the 7K variant with dual SRM mounts. The left side launcher is on the sprue with the two arm guns in the standard kit so not sure the best way to solve that? Thanks!
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Hey speck, I sent a message thru the IWM site after my last order came, but I'm a little confused on the new variant Wolverine kit. The new weapon sprue comes with with right side missile launcher and laser option, but the new arm gun sprue does not come with the left side launcher so the kit cannot currently build the 7K variant with dual SRM mounts. The left side launcher is on the sprue with the two arm guns in the standard kit so not sure the best way to solve that? Thanks!
I saw your email and will respond today. I was out of town last week and getting caught up this weekend.
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I saw your email and will respond today. I was out of town last week and getting caught up this weekend.
No worries, wasn't sure if all these communication pathways end up going to the same person ;D
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All right, images/renders for the Spring Releases (Awesome 8R/8T , Lightning, Carrion Crow Prime
and Stormcrow B/TC) are up on the IWM site under the New Releases tag.
Surprised to see the Awesome 8T doesn't have symmetrical arms, but lookin' good..
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All right, images/renders for the Spring Releases (Awesome 8R/8T , Lightning, Carrion Crow Prime
and Stormcrow B/TC) are up on the IWM site under the New Releases tag.
Surprised to see the Awesome 8T doesn't have symmetrical arms, but lookin' good..
I had to double check, but the Awesome 8R and 8T still have the Hand Actuator in the left arm so it's like the 8Q everyone's used to seeing with the fisty hand.
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I ordered a Carrion Crow from Aries last night!
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Just wanted to pop in and say that I received my Awesomes and they look... Awesome! No mold issues that I can see anywhere, and look like a breeze to assemble. Separate shins and feet should give a little variety in poses. I am surprised by the sprue layout, tho. The feet are on a sprue with the left arm that has the extra Large Laser for the 8T, then a sprue of the 8R right arm and left arm without the laser. Seems like the non-laser left arm is the same as would be on an 8Q, so would it have been easier to make that the arm that's shared with the feet for use in the future 8Q release? Either way, parts look great and I can't want to slap these together.
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I just received the Lightning and it looks fantastic! No issues with the casting, an ever so slight mould like and excellent details! It just jumped the line to get assembled!
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Do we know when the Spring 2022 distributor release is happening?
I'd love to see the Krueger. It's a great vehicle, and it looks fantastic!
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Funny that...I have a baggie of parts I just need to sit down and work on with.
I love the gen1 IS omnis, I think they are even more versatile than Clan omnis. Clan omnis have various combat configs, be it missile boat, sniper, skirmisher, etc, but aside from adding TAG to make them an artillery spotter, that's really it. IS omnis also include command and support configurations that vastly increase their utility. My only gripe, is that I wish that some of the lighter omnis had C3M. There's a C3M Blackhawk KU, but it doesn't arrive until 3070. That said, I've given a bit of new life to my IS omnis by using parts from them to turn some of the new plastics into gen1 IS omnis. If they can use captured Summoners, Hellbringers, and Mad Dogs to make Avatars and Sunders, so can i! Lol. Here's my first painted one. I used a Summoner and Timberwolf parts(R arm and LRM20), added to a Sunder torso(I used the older version, had it laying around), to make the dual C3M Sunder OB variant
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I'd love to see the Krueger. It's a great vehicle, and it looks fantastic!
Seconded, thirded, fourthed, all the numbers I can bring to this!
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I love the gen1 IS omnis, I think they are even more versatile than Clan omnis. Clan omnis have various combat configs, be it missile boat, sniper, skirmisher, etc, but aside from adding TAG to make them an artillery spotter, that's really it. IS omnis also include command and support configurations that vastly increase their utility. My only gripe, is that I wish that some of the lighter omnis had C3M. There's a C3M Blackhawk KU, but it doesn't arrive until 3070. That said, I've given a bit of new life to my IS omnis by using parts from them to turn some of the new plastics into gen1 IS omnis. If they can use captured Summoners, Hellbringers, and Mad Dogs to make Avatars and Sunders, so can i! Lol. Here's my first painted one. I used a Summoner and Timberwolf parts(R arm and LRM20), added to a Sunder torso(I used the older version, had it laying around), to make the dual C3M Sunder OB variant
Fine work there!
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Thanks, man
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I love the gen1 IS omnis, I think they are even more versatile than Clan omnis. Clan omnis have various combat configs, be it missile boat, sniper, skirmisher, etc, but aside from adding TAG to make them an artillery spotter, that's really it. IS omnis also include command and support configurations that vastly increase their utility. My only gripe, is that I wish that some of the lighter omnis had C3M. There's a C3M Blackhawk KU, but it doesn't arrive until 3070. That said, I've given a bit of new life to my IS omnis by using parts from them to turn some of the new plastics into gen1 IS omnis. If they can use captured Summoners, Hellbringers, and Mad Dogs to make Avatars and Sunders, so can i! Lol. Here's my first painted one. I used a Summoner and Timberwolf parts(R arm and LRM20), added to a Sunder torso(I used the older version, had it laying around), to make the dual C3M Sunder OB variant
Holy damn dude, that's incredible! Give that mini it's own thread so it can get the recognition it deserves. Also, I can't quite tell, but did you paint chinstraps on the 6mm infantry?
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Spring 2022 Releases (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/140-spring-2022-battletech-releases-are-available-in-iwm-store) are available in IWM online store. Along with the Carrion Crow A web only.
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Any idea if there will be any Gencon specials this year?
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Hopefully Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrows!!! :thumbsup: :drool: :D
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Any idea if there will be any Gencon specials this year?
Ideas yes, if the stuff will actually get done in time I am hoping. I need to check for an update.
Hopefully Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrows!!! :thumbsup: :drool: :D
One of them I am hoping to have for early next year.
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Will there be resin Exterminators? I have a friend who wants me to pick one up for him.
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Ideas yes, if the stuff will actually get done in time I am hoping. I need to check for an update.
One of them I am hoping to have for early next year.
Any update yet?
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One of them I am hoping to have for early next year.
Sweet! Jade Phoenix would be awesome! You (IWM) did a great job with the Hierofalcon. We need its bigger brother!
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Anyone word on Gencon stuff? I'm making a shopping list for a friend to grab me.
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Presumably the Summer Release stuff might be there. And there's speculation that the Raider might make it though there's been no official word as far as I know.
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Presumably the Summer Release stuff might be there. And there's speculation that the Raider might make it though there's been no official word as far as I know.
Summer release yes, the Raider will sadly not be there due to getting summer release done for show.
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Will we be getting a release schedule update for the fall and winter releases soon? Obviously not right now what with GenCon going on, but maybe in a couple of weeks?
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Will we be getting a release schedule update for the fall and winter releases soon? Obviously not right now what with GenCon going on, but maybe in a couple of weeks?
Yes
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Thanks.
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Apologies if someone has already asked this...
This year's Gen Con diorama featured a couple of Doom Coursers. Any word anywhere on when we might see them in retail?
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Apologies if someone has already asked this...
This year's Gen Con diorama featured a couple of Doom Coursers. Any word anywhere on when we might see them in retail?
In the general disussion thread I brought it up. They were 3d prints but someone mentioned nothing is in the immediate future.
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Let's be positive and hope that if they have a 3D print for it, that getting a mini for it isn't too far out. It might not be in the near future and not as soon as people want, but if they can 3D print one, it has to be at some level of in production towards getting sculpted for a mini!
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One of the camospecs artists brought up the Pulverizer mech, which from context clues I think started in the same way. Only time will tell however.
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IIRC, the Pulverizer started out as someone's custom mini that was made from leftover bits of other mechs. Then it got added to a sourcebook as a canon design.
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One of the camospecs artists brought up the Pulverizer mech, which from context clues I think started in the same way. Only time will tell however.
Camospecs has a detailed write up for how it was made. Its basically a custom sculpt using existing parts as an armature.
https://camospecs.com/articles/how-to/how-to-custom-pulverizer-build/ (https://camospecs.com/articles/how-to/how-to-custom-pulverizer-build/)
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IIRC, the Pulverizer started out as someone's custom mini that was made from leftover bits of other mechs. Then it got added to a sourcebook as a canon design.
The canon design predated the custom miniature.
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Any news on the Raider, now that GenCon is done? Thanks!
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The canon design predated the custom miniature.
Which is what I thought, but since I had nothing to do with it and we are talking events . . . what 15 years? ago I was going to let someone else weight in.
Funny how a throw away like that has ended up with a current Snow Raven design.
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Any news on the Raider, now that GenCon is done? Thanks!
Working on it.
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Summer Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/142-summer-2022-battletech-releases-are-available-in-iwm-store) is available on IWM web store now.
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Very nice. Are you going to be able to get an updated release schedule up soon?
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Will there be a metal release of the redesigned Vindicator in the new Beginner's Box?
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Will there be a metal release of the redesigned Vindicator in the new Beginner's Box?
I imagine the plan for IWM is to have the full line available eventually. The main issue is how fast can they release them while clearing out their backlog of sculpts to release. We're looking at about 16 to 20 releases a year across four quarters, and some of those releases are going to be for new designs from the RecGuides.
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I imagine the plan for IWM is to have the full line available eventually. The main issue is how fast can they release them while clearing out their backlog of sculpts to release. We're looking at about 16 to 20 releases a year across four quarters, and some of those releases are going to be for new designs from the RecGuides.
Makes sensw.
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Yeah, I’m delighted when a metal variant I want becomes available, but I’m not holding my breath for any particular ‘mech.
I’m happy to get what I get.
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I think what is interesting is that IWM can definitely do this and release a lot of minis. Looking back through the old catalogs and historically, almost the entire 3025-era line has had a resculpt starting in the late 90s. And before FASA closed its doors and taking Ral Partha as an entity with it, there was talk of releasing variants.
It took 21 years, but we did finally get that Awesome variant RP teased.
I'll be excited to see where things go once the ball really gets rolling.
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I’m looking for the Conjurer (ilClan RG art version) and Eris, myself. Any info on these?
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They have not gotten into Wave 1 designs yet so expect the Conjurer to be later . . . with that said, we are supposed to be getting the premium plastic Eris in August . . .
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Any chance that the Kickstarter Marauder in metal is in the queue?
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They have not gotten into Wave 1 designs yet so expect the Conjurer to be later . . . with that said, we are supposed to be getting the premium plastic Eris in August . . .
August?
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There was a plastic Eris scheduled for august (nothing to do with IWM)
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"No plan survives contact with the enemy."
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Very nice. Are you going to be able to get an updated release schedule up soon?
Soon, I am finalizing with Mike.
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Glad to hear it.
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Any likelyhood of the Raider this year?
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Soon, I am finalizing with Mike.
Were you able get things finalized?
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Any likelyhood of the Raider this year?
The very much delayed Raider.
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Were you able get things finalized?
Looks like Speck's last update was a month ago. Hopefully that means we'll get an update soon!
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Checking in to see when we might get an update? ;D
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Speck, any word on the Commando and Thunderbolt Variants? ??? I checked page 1 of this thread, and comments in November 2020 were mentioning them being in the works. But then later "A Snag" had occurred, and they were delayed, and we've heard nothing more about them since. :(
Since I hadn't heard anything about them, I felt compelled to ask Speck about them again. ;D
Wow, almost a year ago since I last asked, but they were due out in 2020. :(
ANY news on these Speck? Have they been canned, on the back burner, currently being worked on? Anything? I'm more about the T-Bolt, to be Honest, but I'd be sure to buy a couple new Commandos also! :thumbsup:
You last replied to Alex Cross back in January, but we've heard nothing since. :(
Good list of stuff in process, I will have to double check the Thunderbolt and Commando Variants.
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Hm, some Commando/Thunderbolt variants with the aforementioned Awesome 8Q/9Q and MkI/MkII Raiders
would make a fine Winter release..
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I am later then I wanted to be in posting about the 4th quarter (winter 2022 release), but I have been busy in my non BT/IWM life the last few weeks and there were delays in getting printed master parts in from the company that 3D prints them for IWM. There is still a hiccup and only 3 mechs will be in the next release, Awesome will be first release of 2023. We had a miscommunication with the company that does the prints and seems the files did not make it with the others in time to be back to IWM by now. Its a shame since it was just a few new parts to print. I will update IWM release page by this weekend but below are the three mechs in next release. I also will have some new scrap yard parts up here soon, I have the pictures done, I just need to add them.
20-5208 Amarok Standard
20-5209 Crucible Standard & 2
20-5210 Raider JL-1 and JL-2
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Sweet.
That Crucible kit sounds like it will come with lots of extra bits then
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Given the nature of the Crucible, I think it still will be fun to have mod options.
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Happy to hear from you, and the update is well worth the wait! Amarok is one I've been looking forward to, and the Crucible will make another great addition. Raider's a really neat oddball choice as well. Thanks!
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Woot I need me a Raider or two! :thumbsup: :drool:
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Woohoo!!! So excited for the Raider!!! Going to have to get a pair at least!
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Wow! Thanks for the update, Speck! That's some heavy metal coming our way. That Crucible (Oversized quirk) has got to be a hefty hunk of metal!
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Think I'm gonna need at least one of all three.
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I'm looking forward to the Amarok and both variants of the Crucible. :thumbsup:
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Just to be clear, this is the Jacob's Ladder project Raiders? Bannson's attempt to build his own mech production in the Republic?
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Correct. :)
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*nevermind*
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Amarok render
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Crucible & Crucible 2 renders
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Raider JL-1 & JL-2 renders
EDIT : different angle of renders can be seen on Aries. Alternating between the two versions,
it looks like the MRM-pod and right hands (empty/RAC2) are separate/interchangeable parts.
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Seeing alot of of the Big O influence in the Amarok.
Amarok render
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I hope Catalyst gets a fixed record sheet for the Crucible 2 out now that the mini is coming soon.
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Seeing alot of of the Big O influence in the Amarok.
I said that as soon as I saw it!
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I see a clan Widowmaker Amarok in my future. :D
I said that as soon as I saw it!
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Raider JL-1 & JL-2 renders
EDIT : different angle of renders can be seen on Aries. Alternating between the two versions,
it looks like the MRM-pod and right hands (empty/RAC2) are separate/interchangeable parts.
That's how we wanted it! That's what I'll be buying!
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How are they made? Is that blender or is that just a regular CAD program?
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How are they made? Is that blender or is that just a regular CAD program?
Hi, artist behind the Amarok model here. Are you asking for the renders that are shown, or the models themselves?
Alan Blackwell made the Raider and both myself and Alan use Blender to model. The renders shown, I have no idea, but I can safely say it's not Blender and is probably a free 3D file viewer - I suspect even just Windows 3D Viewer.
Here is a render for the Amarok that I did in Blender recently for comparison and general viewing pleasure of the forum.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52530334228_e21e35a198_z.jpg)
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Appreciate the extra info and your work! For whatever reason your rendering shot is much more flattering to the sculpt. There's something a big off about the first pic, but that won't matter once we get actual mini pics. I am sooo excited for the Amarok!
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Am I looking at it correctly when I say it looks like the Amarok has the same arms as the Hammerhead?
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Am I looking at it correctly when I say it looks like the Amarok has the same arms as the Hammerhead?
Definitely very similar, which is in line with the fluff behind the design's development. I would imagine the Amarok's arms are significantly larger, and you can see that the hands are similar but not identical. Hammerhead has three equi-spaced claws and the Amarok has a two-finger/one middle gripper setup.
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The legs also have a lot of design similarities. There's really a lot of things that are shared outside of that if you look carefully
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Any word on the update for what is on the release schedule for 2023?
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Raider JL-1 & JL-2 renders
EDIT : different angle of renders can be seen on Aries. Alternating between the two versions,
it looks like the MRM-pod and right hands (empty/RAC2) are separate/interchangeable parts.
BRUH
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@Joewrightgm
My point is that there appears to be a single right arm with interchangeable parts for
JL-1 and JL-2 variants, as opposed to two complete right arms (one for each variant).
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Supposed to be that, anyway. More efficient.
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Crucible looks awesome! Here's hoping the Q1 release has the Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrow!
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Any word of the Raider?
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it's available in at least american retail channels (i ordered two)
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Not in IWM's online shop yet :(
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Iirc they give a month or two for other vendors to sell them before they go live from IWM directly. But it should be soon given that timeline.
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Correct
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Crucible looks awesome! Here's hoping the Q1 release has the Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrow!
We can only hope!
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If it's in blender, I wonder if it could be animated. ;D Looks good, though I'm not in love with claw like hands.
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Any idea when the New Releases for the first half of this year will be announced?
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Just received my Raider thru a German retailer. Very nice sculpt.
Kit consists of following parts : front torso / rear torso (power plant) / pelvis + upper legs / lower legs + feet
/ left arm / and (contrary to what I was expecting) 2 complete right arms (1x JL-1, 1x JL-2)..
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Yeah, I just got the Crucible, Raider, and Sojourner B through Aries. I have not opened them up yet but look forward to putting them together over the weekend. Anyone who put the Crucible able to tell me what the '2' parts are in the kit?
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Just the arms
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The Crucible 2 uses the alternate arms with LRM pods
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Ah, have not opened it up and the blister is rather full, lol. FREX, easy to see the MRM & RAC arm on the Raider . . . I might have to magnetize that one.
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Just wanted to say I'm super pleased with the Raider. I've only put them together and primed them so far.
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Pics?
Mine should be being picked and packed at IWM as we type. And then shipped Down Under.
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Pics?
Mine should be being picked and packed at IWM as we type. And then shipped Down Under.
Oh man! Tomorrow I will get some pictures up for you but one O just started painting and the other is only primed.
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Any update on this years plan?
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Any word on the update for what is on the release schedule for 2023?
Working on finalizing now. The Awesome that did not make last release of 2022 will be in the release.
Will have last release of 2022 on IWM website here soon when I add more scrap yard parts.
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I am not sure I understand, you are releasing the last quarter of 2022? Will we get a schedule for 2023?
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I am not sure I understand, you are releasing the last quarter of 2022? Will we get a schedule for 2023?
I believe Speck is saying that the 4Q minis from 2022 are going to be released in the IWM store soon, along with more Scrapyard bits. And he's also working on getting a new release schedule for this year up.
Speck is busy.
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...when I add more scrap yard parts.
More??? LOL You're killin' me smalls!
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More??? LOL You're killin' me smalls!
It’s not that many lol. Just some more items people requested and then pictures for other parts already on the store.
I believe Speck is saying that the 4Q minis from 2022 are going to be released in the IWM store soon, along with more Scrapyard bits. And he's also working on getting a new release schedule for this year up.
Speck is busy.
Yes, sorry for not writing my sentence better.
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Out of curiosity, is there a planned release for the Battlemaster as of yet?
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@ Spector ; the Battlemaster is already up on IWM's store :
https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-ncm/product/battletech-20-5205
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Goes to show how observant I am....
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I've just seen it - bought on behalf of a friend, so I can't say I've seen it assembled yet, but it looks like a good big beefy mini which will stand well next to the plastic ones.
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The only issues I had with it were that the leg pieces took some filing at the top in order to get them to attach to the hips properly and getting the tiny patches on the back (for the rear-mounted medium lasers in the standard model or the nothing back there for the Royal) was a total pain.
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Yeah, the metal Battlemaster feels a touch small compared to the plastic and the hips are genuinely terrible. One I was very excited for, but that's been a bit tempered.
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Winter 2022 release are available on IWM online store now. See the annoucement (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/145-winter-2022-battletech-releases-are-available-in-iwm-store) for more information.
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Awesome! I've built the Crucible and Amarok so far and they're both fantastic.
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The Amarok was a fun build I agree.
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I got to ask it...
What is Speck and Co. gonna release for this years GenCon '23?
And would they include this in a Mini Pack like what CGL did to the 3d printed Force Packs?
TT
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None of CGL's minis are 3D printed? Some of the prototypes and testbeds are 3D printed, but that is not what is sold in packs afaik.
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I got to ask it...
What is Speck and Co. gonna release for this years GenCon '23?
And would they include this in a Mini Pack like what CGL did to the 3d printed Force Packs?
TT
I keep Hoping for a revised version of the old RP Assault Lance Boxed Set (Battlemaster, Marauder and 2 Warhammers). I think the closest one currently would be a Light Lance Boxed Set (Stinger, Wasp, Griffin and Wolverine) or Recon Lance Boxed Set (2 Locusts, Stinger and Phoenix Hawk). They'd need to make the Stinger and PHK for both, or just the Stinger to have the Light Lance. At least these days we could have Variants either the WHM or LCT, instead of just 2 of the same model. :thumbsup:
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Winter 2022 release are available on IWM online store now. See the annoucement (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/10-factory-news/145-winter-2022-battletech-releases-are-available-in-iwm-store) for more information.
20-5211 Awesome AWS-8Q / 9Q 80 TBA
20-5212 Coming Soon TBA
20-5213 Coming Soon TBA
20-5214 Coming Soon TBA
So will the 3 coming soon be more classic mechs? I am hoping for the Warhammer and Marauder ;)
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Aaaa the dreaded TBA strikes us with uncertainty and dread yet again!
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Porcupine
Daedalus
Aquagladius
;D
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Porcupine
Daedalus
Aquagladius
;D
I mean, we got the Buffalo hover truck. Got to expect that nothing is really off the table.
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20-5211 Awesome AWS-8Q / 9Q 80 TBA
20-5212 Coming Soon TBA
20-5213 Coming Soon TBA
20-5214 Coming Soon TBA
So will the 3 coming soon be more classic mechs? I am hoping for the Warhammer and Marauder ;)
If they are done with GoAC box I would say you might end up with . . . new RecGuide mech, Clan Invasion Box mech, KS IS Wave 1 mech
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The completionist in me hates you right now. :P
Porcupine
Daedalus
Aquagladius
;D
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in that case you do NOT want to see my sculpt/no sculpt spreadsheets
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Jade Phoenix
Ion Sparrow
Kontio
Let's hope for that
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Two cjf sculpts is a bit greedy, thought they would definitely help fill out my falcony falcons binary
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Still hoping for the Tribune...
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20-5212 Coming Soon TBA
20-5213 Coming Soon TBA
20-5214 Coming Soon TBA
My guesses :
Either Ion Sparrow or Jade Phoenix
Thresher II
An Omni from the Clan Invasion box
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I think it’s time we get a Ghost Bear mech; ravens have two, wolfs got two, falcons have their one so far.
Maybe Mastodon, Konito and a new IS guy, Rawhide or Inferno.
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I don't expect that we'd get two bear mechs in the same wave.
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I would really love to start seeing the new Bear 'Mechs as well. With them being the focus of the current sourcebook it would have been great to align the mini releases.
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The Jade Phoenix and Ion Sparrow make the most sense since IWM seems to be finishing off all the mechs from the IlClan Sourcebook
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I think it’s time we get a Ghost Bear mech; ravens have two, wolfs got two, falcons have their one so far.
Maybe Mastodon, Konito and a new IS guy, Rawhide or Inferno.
Wouldn't the Rawhide be a House Davion/Team Banzai 'Mech? ???
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It's known to be Lyran.
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It's a medium-sized Scourge.
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If we're talking "kills the completionis in me", we're still just two sculpts short of having every single Proto, from memory. Not counting on getting a Basilisk Quad or Hobgoblin any time soon, though, sadly.
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Unfortunately IWM have to consider their staff's need to eat (eg. adequate sales) over BT fan concerns with completeness. The support they do give BT indicates is beyond rational, and we thank them for it!
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Unfortunately IWM have to consider their staff's need to eat (eg. adequate sales) over BT fan concerns with completeness. The support they do give BT indicates is beyond rational, and we thank them for it!
Not for nothing, but I'd be really happy to support their ability to eat if they could tell us what will be for sale and when.
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Like dinner at Granma's place, "it'll be ready when it's ready."
Like with CGL, it may be people think IWM is a factory with dozens of staff working assembly line making minis. It's not (well, it is a factory, true.) It's a small business. And even Disney - let alone Boeing - sometimes slip delivery dates. It happens.
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It's not just a small staff, they've been hit by repeated severe medical problems over the last year, IIRC.
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A bad run of COVID and a scary spot of cancer, from memory. Yep, that'll make life hard.
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Wouldn't the Rawhide be a House Davion/Team Banzai 'Mech? ???
It's known to be Lyran.
"Rawhide" was one of the Characters from the Buckaroo Banzai novel/movie. Team Banzai was Most Definitely with House Davion, and the backbone of the NAIS. :thumbsup:
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He gave the you the actual answer . . . but Rawhide was a TV show in it's own right.
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He gave the you the actual answer . . . but Rawhide was a TV show in it's own right.
Starring a baby-faced Clint Eastwood! Before he started drifting on the High Plains. :D
It was before my time, but I think I saw a few reruns. It's been so long ago that I don't really remember anything about it though. :-[
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I know I watched some with my grandfather when I was a kid. IIRC- and without looking it up- he was the gun hand for a cattle drive. Basically your set cast moving on every episode or two to run into 'new' characters in new towns.
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Starring a baby-faced Clint Eastwood! Before he started drifting on the High Plains. :D
It was before my time, but I think I saw a few reruns. It's been so long ago that I don't really remember anything about it though. :-[
It's still on TV...trust me, sometimes it's playing while you guys are getting boxes shipped to you, along with Nash Bridges, Law & Order SVU, and all day long marathons of Chicago Fire on Tuesdays, Chicago PD on Thursdays, and my favorite Hawaii Five-0 on Fridays! lol
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20-5212 Coming Soon TBA
20-5213 Coming Soon TBA
20-5214 Coming Soon TBA
My guesses :
Either Ion Sparrow or Jade Phoenix
Thresher II
An Omni from the Clan Invasion box
I am hoping to have an update from Mike so that I can post the details after next week. I will be in Cincy at IWM briefly before helping out at the local Cincycon show.
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Here's a question: The Leviathan was brought back for sale for GenCon 2019, are there any plans for it to end up on the online store? Or will it at least be available at future conventions? I need one more, maybe two if they ever confirm a Lev III from Dominions Divided.
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It might not be the same art.
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Gotta grease some hands a little to get that... say a Fundraiser KS for the ol' girl?
Money does have a way to speak of spreading goodness...
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It might not be the same art.
Better still, a Lev III is suppose to be different.
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It might not be the same art.
We already have the art, per the XTRO it was released in. It is the same.
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I know I would change spending patterns if a Levithan goes on sale again. I want one or more.
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record sheet art is correct art unless it is superseded.
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I am hoping to have an update from Mike so that I can post the details after next week. I will be in Cincy at IWM briefly before helping out at the local Cincycon show.
Hi Speck, any updates forthcoming this week? Thanks!
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Any rumors of a Po II?
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Any rumors of a Po II?
Man, this is BattleTech! There are ALWAYS "Rumors"! :D
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Man, this is BattleTech! There are ALWAYS "Rumors"! :D
I don't know GRUD?
Still haven't seen the First Mark I Clan Omniset that would make one cry, hear about it, but no...
See, we're to be made to believe these Clan Invasion Omnisets are Mark IIs...
TT
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Man, this is BattleTech! There are ALWAYS "Rumors"! :D
Battletech never has rumors. There's only confirmed facts no one can remember the source of that don't always turn out to be true anymore.
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https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19)
Release schedule posted to IWM's new social media. Nice to see the standard Awesome to round out the AGAOC stuff but the rest is pretty disappointing. Urbanmechs are popular but we're about to get a plastic box with a bunch of variants and the Arrow version is so easily kitbashed, and people potentially have tons of donor chassis from the company box. Standard Warhammer with no variant bits seems like a major missed opportunity to make that purchase useful at all. Why isn't there a new modern era 'Mech in there? There's still IlClan book models to do, or any of the missing modern Ghost Bear models would have been a great tie-in to the release of DD. It feels like there's no coordination at all between CGL and IWM's release plans.
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I think it is great that they are pushing more social media content to get themselves out there. It's a smart move.
Also they have an office cat, which makes them automatically good people.
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So we've got the Awesome (8Q / 9Q), UrbanMech (R60 / R60L / AIV) and Warhammer (6R), but 20-5214 is still unaccounted for..
Bit sad that there are no options for the Hammer.. ah well.
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New metal minis from IWM! I think we can all be thankful for that.
The AWS-8Q/9Q will be amazing, especially if I more in scale with the plastics. I'm hopeful they got the scaling right!
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No options for the Warhammer right NOW . . . but there has been models they rolled out and then released a alternate for recently.
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The SRM isn't that hard to remove as it is.
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https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19)
Release schedule posted to IWM's new social media. Nice to see the standard Awesome to round out the AGAOC stuff but the rest is pretty disappointing. Urbanmechs are popular but we're about to get a plastic box with a bunch of variants and the Arrow version is so easily kitbashed, and people potentially have tons of donor chassis from the company box. Standard Warhammer with no variant bits seems like a major missed opportunity to make that purchase useful at all. Why isn't there a new modern era 'Mech in there? There's still IlClan book models to do, or any of the missing modern Ghost Bear models would have been a great tie-in to the release of DD. It feels like there's no coordination at all between CGL and IWM's release plans.
I was playing a game with Anthony Scroggins last month and he said that he'd been pushing IWM to get the Urbanmech out for a while in order to make sure it released before the lance pack, but they'd had serious delays due to all the illnesses that had been ravaging their employees over the last year.
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Ooh the Awesome looks good in both 8Q and 9Q format. I got the missile variant figure and it looks great.
It will also be nice to get a nice new Warhammer that doesn't have a crooked upper torso. The plastic 6R Warhammer mold definitely has issues.
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So we've got the Awesome (8Q / 9Q), UrbanMech (R60 / R60L / AIV) and Warhammer (6R), but 20-5214 is still unaccounted for..
There is some pics on IWM's new twitter and on the same mold as the Urbanmech, Awesome and Warhammer it looks to be a hover vehicle hull.
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That's the underside of a Saladin. The bits to the right are the fins and gun for it. Looks like we're getting another variant.
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Ugh, more variants? :(
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I'm not even sure what the point of a variant Saladin would be: there's only three canon variants that I now of: the weaponless Cargo variant, and the LB-X and Ultra variants which honestly don't feel like they're different enough from the original to be worth it.
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Could it be that the previous master mold for the Saladin was worn out / needed to be replaced ?
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Let's get the official word from Speck before we speculate.
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A Saladin with angles would look nicer than the current nudibranch we have now.
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Wouldn't mind a Saladin II, but that wouldn't look like the OG.
Wait and see, I guess.
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Ugh, more variants? :(
Right??? Very disappointing. At least put out some new mechs and some variants. It's getting to the point where I'm going to expect some of the new rec guide mechs to be out in plastic first.
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Right??? Very disappointing. At least put out some new mechs and some variants. It's getting to the point where I'm going to expect some of the new rec guide mechs to be out in plastic first.
Ugh, more mechs? :(
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Ugh, more mechs? :(
Well, yeah! We ONLY have about 800 to choose from! ;D
::)
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Ugh, more mechs? :(
Agreed. There are a slew of armored units that haven't been released and many of them deserve to see the light of day.
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Yup, like the Trutzburg.
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https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19 (https://twitter.com/IronWindMetals/status/1634928909652488194?t=9oXnHpxDg0aqYxSXXQCJJA&s=19)
Release schedule posted to IWM's new social media. Nice to see the standard Awesome to round out the AGAOC stuff but the rest is pretty disappointing. Urbanmechs are popular but we're about to get a plastic box with a bunch of variants and the Arrow version is so easily kitbashed, and people potentially have tons of donor chassis from the company box. Standard Warhammer with no variant bits seems like a major missed opportunity to make that purchase useful at all. Why isn't there a new modern era 'Mech in there? There's still IlClan book models to do, or any of the missing modern Ghost Bear models would have been a great tie-in to the release of DD. It feels like there's no coordination at all between CGL and IWM's release plans.
Agreed, meh on more urbanmech in general. Would have been thrilled with a mad cat iv, shrike, jade phoenix, iron cheetah....something exciting. CGL likely won't get around to doing ilclan stuff in plastic for a good while, IWM could have filled that void more in the meantime, oh well. I got my first hierofalcon in the mail yesterday, and it's quite a fantastic sculpt...makes me wish for the jade phoenix.
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Finally having an official UM-AIV will be nice. Saves me having to kitbash one with a member of my Urbie company.
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I'm here for the release dates so I know how much I can spend before the Kickstarter.
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Given that they're only just now getting revealed, I wouldn't be surprised if they're not getting released until Q2.
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Considering q1 ends in two weeks that seems probable
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....something exciting. CGL likely won't get around to doing ilclan stuff in plastic for a good while . . .
Hammerhead . . . Eris . . .
Yeah, I would have preferred a Inferno Prime, Firestorm (eh, a SCat can proxy), or the Mastodon for my Bear friends.
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I'm here for the release dates so I know how much I can spend before the Kickstarter.
From IWM's Twitter :
For those interested the new battletech release is scheduled for the week of april 3rd, we
give stores a month before we put them on our website so be sure to support you local shop!
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All I can say is I would hella buy the Eurus.
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Agreed, meh on more urbanmech in general. Would have been thrilled with a mad cat iv, shrike, jade phoenix, iron cheetah....something exciting. CGL likely won't get around to doing ilclan stuff in plastic for a good while, IWM could have filled that void more in the meantime, oh well. I got my first hierofalcon in the mail yesterday, and it's quite a fantastic sculpt...makes me wish for the jade phoenix.
Mad Cat IV and Shrike are already available from IWM. Or do you mean resculpted verisons?
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Mad Cat IV and Shrike are already available from IWM. Or do you mean resculpted verisons?
Yeah just a modernization to fit in better with the newer range of minis. (think the Mad Cat looking like it did on the book cover for hour of the wolf). The current shrike is okay but when put next to something like newer like the hierofalcon it ages the sculpt a bit.
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The Savage Wolf has a flaw in assembling the mini- the shoulder.
The Shrike vs new Falcon Omnis are supposed to have a aesthetic difference representing the sort-of split philosophies of the Falcons. The new Omnis being less totem-ish is pushback against Malvina's behavior by those who oversaw the program and I would assume the scientists. This is pretty spelled out in the opening fiction of ilClan where a Malvina devotee on Mars mentally goes on about how she uses a Shrike-era totem mech like Malvina.
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The shoulders and hips both are flawed on the Mad Cat Mk IV. Same issue with the Vulture MK IV, since they use the same arms and legs. It's been a problem since the minis were released.
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On Reddit the Saladin was mentioned as being just a remake of the master mold. Not a new thing.
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Aww bummer. I did get a new custom idea for it however, so may need to look into it.
On Reddit the Saladin was mentioned as being just a remake of the master mold. Not a new thing.
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Aww bummer. I did get a new custom idea for it however, so may need to look into it.
There always Exile from Syberia/TRO Syberia inspired out fits. ;D
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IWM's website now lists the 1st Quarter releases :
the aforementioned Awesome, UrbanMech and Warhammer.
Currently no sign of the previously announced 20-5214 reference.
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Oh this idea is from TV/Movies. ;D
There always Exile from Syberia/TRO Syberia inspired out fits. ;D
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I got the AWS-8Q/9Q Awesome. The sculpt is super crisp, great detail. The arms have an actual round (and not squished) PPC barrel. Feels great moving the miniature around on the table, I like the weight of a metal assault mech. Its just such a shame the scale isn't coming out right. It's noticeably smaller than the plastic CGL sculpt.
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Its just such a shame the scale isn't coming out right. It's noticeably smaller than the plastic CGL sculpt.
The scale is probably coming out right. CGL changed the scale from the old RP/IWM sculpts. IWM would have to rescuplt literally everything in their BattleTech line to align to the changed specs.
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The scale is probably coming out right. CGL changed the scale from the old RP/IWM sculpts. IWM would have to rescuplt literally everything in their BattleTech line to align to the changed specs.
It's a metal version of the new plastic mini. There was a similar issue with the Battlemaster mini released last year. IIRC it has to do with the fact that liquid plastic and liquid pewter shrink by different amounts when they cool in the mold.
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If they are consistent with the other metal minis, I don't care. The are close enough to the plastic releases that, if you have to nitpick them on the tabletop complaining about scale, maybe mini gaming isn't what you really are interested in.
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It's noticeable if you put the metal and plastic versions of the mini side by side, but it's still only a difference of millimeters.
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I did put up a comparison post here and its been generating alot of buzz on some of the FB groups. The Discord servers I put it on haven't been too critical either. Can't please everyone I suppose.
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It's noticeable if you put the metal and plastic versions of the mini side by side, but it's still only a difference of millimeters.
I do not believe that IWM does any compensation for shrinkage, which is why this is happening.
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snip...Can't please everyone I suppose.
TRUST ME...no, you cannot! LOL
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I do not believe that IWM does any compensation for shrinkage, which is why this is happening.
If simply casting from the a mold of the plastic, you can't. That would require an entirely new sculpt.
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I just picked up the new Awesome 8/9Q mini and I can't wait to build it. At a glance it looks wicked cool.
As far as size comparison...to be fair the plastic Awesome and Battlemaster are fairly plump.
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Hey Speck, I know things are busy at Iron Wind Metals, but if you get a chance could you ask about the possibility about getting the Ares Apollo variant from Dominions Divided added to the catalogue? It uses the right arm of the Hera and the left arm of the Aphrodite, so it's just a matter of matching already-existing parts together in a new combination.
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I suppose the question then becomes, why are some of the new sculpts smaller than the CGL plastics (i.e Awesome, Battlemaster, Griffin, Wolverine, Commando, Stormcrow but then others are just right? (i.e. Catapult, ShadowHawk, Locust, Black Knight)
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IWM minis made to match the new CGL plastics are typically made from the same 3D masters. But there's a step in producing metal minis - the master has to be put in the uncured silicone mould, and subjected to heat & pressure to make the mould - this is nicknamed "the squeeze".
And the squeeze is a black art. It's not uncommon for a mould to lose a little in breadth or depth in the process, and I understand from other companies that masters are typically slightly oversized (eg 110%) to allow for this. But the compression isn't always the same in all directions. Consider the Reseen Grand Crusader, that maintained height + breadth, but lost depth. I guess - and this is purely a guess - that the time and effort in producing the mould is itself not trivial, and 'minor' variations aren't enough to justify re-moulding.
I understand the IWM Stinger and Catapult match the plastics pretty well, but I've seen reports that the Awesome also looks a little undersized next to the plastics. Which in a way is ironic because the plastic Awesome is somewhat oversized for an 80-tonner.
Now that may have nothing to do with the extra-edition Rifleman, because they come from someone else - probably someone as not familiar with IMW minis as us obsessive fans.
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Hmmm. Yeah I am just so impressed with the detail of the new IWM sculpts. Just lightyears ahead of where they were just 10 years ago. And superior in many respects to the CGL plastics. I just wish they could get the scale right, or at least consistent.
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Hmmm. Yeah I am just so impressed with the detail of the new IWM sculpts. Just lightyears ahead of where they were just 10 years ago. And superior in many respects to the CGL plastics. I just wish they could get the scale right, or at least consistent.
Part of that is the 3D sculpting, and the other part is associated art for the new stuff. If you look at the art work over the years, it does reflect in the miniatures...so better art, and sculpting equals better miniatures.
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Part of that is the 3D sculpting, and the other part is associated art for the new stuff. If you look at the art work over the years, it does reflect in the miniatures...so better art, and sculpting equals better miniatures.
I recently looked in my combat manuals, and the contrast between the new and old stuff is stark.
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How about another QuadVee like the Notos or the Boreas??
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How about another QuadVee like the Notos or the Boreas??
I'd be Happy with either of those, or the Lich Quad Drone. :thumbsup:
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I think it got missed here but the Ares superheavy variant in the Dominions Divided book is live on IWM now.
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Nice.
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Excellent!
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All the new CGL redesigns being made in metal is great, but I just hope we'll get more of the IWM resculpts for MW4 mechs like Thanatos and Argus or Osiris, because the ones for the Uziel, Chimera, Hellspawn are absolutely *perfect*
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The Argus was the first one to get a resculpt. https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/product-listing/product/battletech-arbt-135/category_pathway-2 (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/product-listing/product/battletech-arbt-135/category_pathway-2)
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oh dang i never got that one. adding it to the next order list
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It's not exactly up to the same standards as the Uziel or Chimera resculpts, but it's loads better than the original.
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maybe we will get the next scheduled release update soon...
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oh dang i never got that one. adding it to the next order list
Oh I'm aware of that resculpt, but considering I think it looks less like the artwork and the MW4 design than the original miniature, especially around the cockpit, kind of tend to pretend it doesn't exist.
I think it'd be massively improved by just taking the MW4 model and making a miniature out of it, like they did with the Uziel and the others
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Any idea of what’s next for Q2 or Q3?
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Any idea of what’s next for Q2 or Q3?
Stuff. :thumbsup:
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Hopefully at least some of that stuff will be new, and not variants or other units whose base chasses are already available from IWM or CGL.
Best case, some of THAT stuff won't be mechs.
Amazing case, one of that last group will be the Tribune. O:-)
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I think the Kickstarter work has been delaying finalization of 3D files/molds for IWM.
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Stuff. :thumbsup:
Metal stuff. ;)
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The Jade Phoenix would be nice.
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The Jade Phoenix would be nice.
understatement 8)
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The Jade Phoenix would be nice.
Well, yeah. The Hierofalcon is one of IWM's best sculpts of all time. I simply cannot say enough good things about it. I have high hopes for the Jade Phoenix. The Ion Sparrow would be nice too!
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I'd like it if we could get at least one of the new Bear mechs before any more Falcon mechs.
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I'd like it if we could get at least one of the new Bear mechs before any more Falcon mechs.
Or Wolf mechs, or Raven mechs…
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Or anybody's tanks...
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It would be nice to see IWM accomplish a larger release schedule. I don't know how realistic that is financially, but there are certainly the minis to be made.
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Me, still waiting for a 3026 Goblin tank: :-\
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I'd like it if we could get at least one of the new Bear mechs before any more Falcon mechs.
Kontio please
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Me, still waiting for a 3026 Goblin tank: :-\
It was on a fan funding poll a few years ago but didn’t garner much support
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Or anybody's tanks...
Oprah Winfrey: You get a tank! You get a tank! You get a tank! You get a tank! Everybody gets a tank!
Aka, Tank you! Tank you! Tank You, ladies and Gentleman! :D
Yes, I COULD have stopped myself. NO, I did NOT want to! :thumbsup:
Oh, You're Welcome! :beer:
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Well, yeah. The Hierofalcon is one of IWM's best sculpts of all time. I simply cannot say enough good things about it. I have high hopes for the Jade Phoenix. The Ion Sparrow would be nice too!
I have to have some Stormbird BA to go with the Hierofalcon, Jade Phoenix, and Ion Sparrow
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Well, yeah. The Hierofalcon is one of IWM's best sculpts of all time. I simply cannot say enough good things about it.
That's because Dale Eadeh (the artist and sculptor in this case) is an absolute stud.
I'd like it if we could get at least one of the new Bear mechs before any more Falcon mechs.
I think you'll be happy with what's in the works... :-X
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Or anybody's tanks...
I would do dirty, dirty things for a Eurus sculpt. IMO, it's one of the biggest highlights of the recent RecGuides.
Me, still waiting for a 3026 Goblin tank: :-\
Yes please, this.
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I hope everything is ok with Speck, haven't heard from him in a while.
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I hope everything is ok with Speck, haven't heard from him in a while.
Me too. Looks like he hasn't logged in since March 27th, nearly 2 months ago.
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I think you'll be happy with what's in the works... :-X
Spill! Or I'll let my cat play with your minis! :D
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I think you'll be happy with what's in the works... :-X
Hahaha...yes, yes they will...as long as everyone turns their stuff in on time.
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Me too. Looks like he hasn't logged in since March 27th, nearly 2 months ago.
Though he did post the announcement of the Ares Apollo's release on IWM's homepage on April 28th. That's still over two weeks ago.
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I figured the IWM Social medias that popped up around the same time overwrote a lot of what he posted here
It’s why I posted in the thread about the ares variant when I saw it a few days later
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Hahaha...yes, yes they will...as long as everyone turns their stuff in on time.
Lol, I am done! Just waiting on one more approval...
I think you'll be happy with what's in the works... :-X
Its some of my absolutely best work. I think they'll be pleased...
I hope everything is ok with Speck, haven't heard from him in a while.
He's good! I talked to him very recently!
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Excellent, thanks for the update.
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I'm kind of hoping to see the Vali show up at some point. It's a long shot, as it's basically extinct, but it's a beautifully simple Artillery vehicle.
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I'm feeling a bit concerned about how things are at IWM given how long it's been since any news has come out from them.
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The Jade Phoenix would be nice.
Yes it is coming, along with the Mastadon and one more (once its finalized). I am still around, just had a lot going on the last few weeks. Finally getting caught up on a variety of projects. I will have the first release of 2023 on IWM web store this week.
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Yes it is coming, along with the Mastadon and one more (once its finalized).
:rockon:
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Question: can we expect to see variants of the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon, or just the primes? Looks like there are a few variants of both that could be made just by swapping arms.
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:excited:
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Question: can we expect to see variants of the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon, or just the primes? Looks like there are a few variants of both that could be made just by swapping arms.
Yes, one variant each.
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I love you but my wallet doesn't.
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Yes, one variant each.
variants as optional bits, or seperate SKU,
Is it going to be the A variant in all cases?
Thanks
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Any idea of what’s next for Q2 or Q3?
HEAVY METAL
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Yes, one variant each.
It's Happening! It's Happening!!! WOOHOO! :thumbsup:
Speck, what about the Ion Sparrow/Butcherbird? Is that coming as well?
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variants as optional bits, or seperate SKU,
Is it going to be the A variant in all cases?
Thanks
Mastadon variant will be D. Plan is to have the arms in the Prime blister.
Jade Phoenix will be the A in a separate SKU.
It's Happening! It's Happening!!! WOOHOO! :thumbsup:
Speck, what about the Ion Sparrow/Butcherbird? Is that coming as well?
It's on the list to do in the future.
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Mastadon variant will be D. Plan is to have the arms in the Prime blister.
Ah, was hoping that would be the case. Any chance of getting some other variants as online exclusives?
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Is the Doom Courser anywhere in the pipeline?
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Ah, was hoping that would be the case. Any chance of getting some other variants as online exclusives?
That is a possibility yes.
Is the Doom Courser anywhere in the pipeline?
It is on the list to be done.
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Any non-mech stuff in the pipe?
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Can we round out the Jade Falcon trilogy of Omnimechs with some Stormbird battlearmor? I know people who would be willing to finance the BA.
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I would be all about that Stormbird BA when it comes out.
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Hey Speck,
At one point, variants for the Commando and Thunderbolt were mentioned IIRC.
Are those still on the drawing board/in the pipeline or have they been superseded ?
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non-premium hammerhead? (your shipping is much more survivable)
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Any news on the Iron Cheetah or Viper? The Cheetah features prominently in a recent fiction release, would have been awesome to have the mini debut alongside that.
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Hey Speck,
At one point, variants for the Commando and Thunderbolt were mentioned IIRC.
Are those still on the drawing board/in the pipeline or have they been superseded ?
They are still on the list.
non-premium hammerhead? (your shipping is much more survivable)
It’s a possibility, but with CGL keeping them instock I do not want to take away a production slot of something else we could do to release.
Any news on the Iron Cheetah or Viper? The Cheetah features prominently in a recent fiction release, would have been awesome to have the mini debut alongside that.
I have checked on the Iron Cheetah, but there are a few other Reg Guide ilClan mechs I have as higher priority.
Viper, are you referring to the Viper /Dragonfly of the new art from the first KS? If so, it’s not on my initial list of mechs from Clan Invasion KS to have done in metal. I have only so many production slots and I am picking certain mechs as the initial release. I may prioritize some second line clan mechs since they never got a resculpt in metal like the 3050 omni mechs. The exception to that would be the Mad Cat since it’s a super popular mech.
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I will have the first release of 2023 up on IWM this week. I wanted to have it up last week, but did not work out and ran out of time before I left for Origins.
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They are still on the list.
Much appreciated, thank you Sir
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Viper, are you referring to the Viper /Dragonfly of the new art from the first KS?
No, I suspect they are referring to this mech:
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/9466/viper-vp-1
(https://i.ibb.co/SsMzz1s/viper-rg.png)
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No, I suspect they are referring to this mech:
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/9466/viper-vp-1
(https://i.ibb.co/SsMzz1s/viper-rg.png)
I would love a sculpt for that.
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So say we all.
I would love a sculpt for that.
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No, I suspect they are referring to this mech:
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/9466/viper-vp-1
(https://i.ibb.co/SsMzz1s/viper-rg.png)
Correct, the VP-1 Viper. This was such a great surprise in the RG series, would have been awesome to have a mini ready to release at the same time.
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Correct, the VP-1 Viper. This was such a great surprise in the RG series, would have been awesome to have a mini ready to release at the same time.
That would definitely go on my shopping list, either as metal or plastic, whatever comes first.
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snip - I may prioritize some second line clan mechs.. - snip
On the topic of second line clan Mechs, since the Glass Spider/Galahad didn't make it into
the Mercs KS (boo), any chance of it going metal ?
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I'd love to have VP-1 Viper.
I can imaging using the parts bin, that something couple be cobbled together.
I suspect body of the new classic crusader or maybe body of the reseen versions.
Maybe primitive Wasp's head could be used with some modifications head.
As for arms, I'm sure. I hope canon new-classic ones shows up soon.
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VP-1 Viper for me too. Would be amazing. Any word on the possibility of a new Phantom Omnimech based on the new art in the Rec Guide? Didn't appear in the Kickstarter.
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I'd love to get my hands on a fresh Phantom model as well.
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I'd love to get my hands on a fresh Phantom model as well.
Unfortunately it was left out of the Clan Invasion KS, the only Wolf design was the Linebacker while the Falcons got all 4 of their SB designs and I think the only IC design not included was the Grizzly . . . which is in this Merc KS.
Pouncer got covered in the AS Box at least.
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The Phantom was given an updated look in Rec Guide 27. Since it's not in any of the Mercenaries kickstarter packs, some people are hoping that it's eligible for a new mini from IWM.
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I have been wanting a new Phantom mini since the Clan Invasion kickstarter. A new Glass Spider would also be great, I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not include the Glass Spider in the Direct Fire Star alongside Mechs like the Rifleman IIC and the Bane. It wasn't like we really needed a new Highlander IIC, the current mini from IWM is perfectly serviceable. Though if we get an IWM Glass Spider first maybe they can include parts that will allow people to make either a Glass Spider or a Glass Spider 2.
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Of course, we also don't know what other force packs Catalyst might have planned in the near(ish) future.
I'm more interested in when the next batch of minis from IWM will be up for sale.
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The Phantom was given an updated look in Rec Guide 27. Since it's not in any of the Mercenaries kickstarter packs, some people are hoping that it's eligible for a new mini from IWM.
It's hideous. It would benefit from a plastic mini! Hopefully there is some unannounced star pack in the near future with it in it!
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It's hideous. It would benefit from a plastic mini! Hopefully there is some unannounced star pack in the near future with it in it!
Since they discussed faction packs with the new Force Manuals . . .
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I have been wanting a new Phantom mini since the Clan Invasion kickstarter. A new Glass Spider would also be great, I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not include the Glass Spider in the Direct Fire Star alongside Mechs like the Rifleman IIC and the Bane. It wasn't like we really needed a new Highlander IIC, the current mini from IWM is perfectly serviceable. Though if we get an IWM Glass Spider first maybe they can include parts that will allow people to make either a Glass Spider or a Glass Spider 2.
I'm kinda with you on that...but, not the Highlander IIC miniature. I think the current design does need a refresh, but what honestly didn't in my mind (although they did knock the refresh out of the park)...was the 20-5128 / BT-402 / BT-403 Highlander minis. They were re-sculpted not too many years ago to bring them more in line, and then the KS happened and we get another design! LOL
I'm all for refreshed stuff, especially for some of the more hideous designs, or to correct stuff like no waists yet can still torso twist...but I just think the Highlander could have been left alone. A LOT of work went into that refresh as well as a couple others.
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I'm kinda with you on that...but, not the Highlander IIC miniature. I think the current design does need a refresh, but what honestly didn't in my mind (although they did knock the refresh out of the park)...was the 20-5128 / BT-402 / BT-403 Highlander minis. They were re-sculpted not too many years ago to bring them more in line, and then the KS happened and we get another design! LOL
I'm all for refreshed stuff, especially for some of the more hideous designs, or to correct stuff like no waists yet can still torso twist...but I just think the Highlander could have been left alone. A LOT of work went into that refresh as well as a couple others.
Yeah, the new Highlander from IWM is a fantastic. Granted, it is an advanced miniature, but it's a beast.
I would like to the see the new Banshee from IWM -- mainly because there is the possibility of variants that we wouldn't get otherwise. Parts to make the 3E and 3S are obvious, much as with the original Banshee. However, I wouldn't find it a stretch to have the parts to make a 3M and 3MC either -- depending on how detailed you want to get with the barrels in the torso. Of course, we could see offerings similar to the Wolverine and get a little nuts; releases or parts to create the 5S, 6S, and 7S.
That might be excessive, but one can dream. :D
Much like Weirdo, I would happily see the support side of BattleTech fleshed out with vehicles and support units.
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I'm kinda with you on that...but, not the Highlander IIC miniature. I think the current design does need a refresh, but what honestly didn't in my mind (although they did knock the refresh out of the park)...was the 20-5128 / BT-402 / BT-403 Highlander minis. They were re-sculpted not too many years ago to bring them more in line, and then the KS happened and we get another design! LOL
I'm all for refreshed stuff, especially for some of the more hideous designs, or to correct stuff like no waists yet can still torso twist...but I just think the Highlander could have been left alone. A LOT of work went into that refresh as well as a couple others.
Thanks, Derek... :thumbsup: I'm sure Behrle Hubbuch would appreciate that too!
I have a lot of Scottish blood in my ancestry. As such-- the Highlander has always been a core favorite.
I was SO stoked to work on the resulpt with Behrle, and was inspired by Drew William's pet project in his 20-942RE Atlas.
As well as the new at the time Highlander Art by the venerable Alex Iglesias.
I'm still happy with the mini. It's not perfect, but does certainly capture that awesome classic highlander heritage.
The new plastic Highlander is sweet, but it feels more like a bridge between the Highlander and Highlander IIC.
I just love the brutalist appeal of the old girl. Happy to have been involved. I miss working with Mike and the lot at IWM.
Anyway, enough pining for the good ole days... ;)
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I have to say that I loved how poseable the resculpted Highlander was while still being easy to assemble thanks to the large contact surfaces on each piece where they glued together.
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Thanks, Derek... :thumbsup: I'm sure Behrle Hubbuch would appreciate that too!
I have a lot of Scottish blood in my ancestry. As such-- the Highlander has always been a core favorite.
I was SO stoked to work on the resulpt with Behrle, and was inspired by Drew William's pet project in his 20-942RE Atlas.
As well as the new at the time Highlander Art by the venerable Alex Iglesias.
I'm still happy with the mini. It's not perfect, but does certainly capture that awesome classic highlander heritage.
The new plastic Highlander is sweet, but it feels more like a bridge between the Highlander and Highlander IIC.
I just love the brutalist appeal of the old girl. Happy to have been involved. I miss working with Mike and the lot at IWM.
Anyway, enough pining for the good ole days... ;)
Man...you guys knocked that one out the park. The pose-ability and just sheer sculpting of it, it was & still is just darn near perfect! I didn't know you had a hand in that...so that's always good to know!
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My kitbashes and I can't thank you enough for just how fun your resdesign is to pose and work on. I also echo that it didn't need yet another redesign, and was a bit disappointed to see the gauss arm get a generic hex shape redesign instead of the trowel hood of the original.
Thanks, Derek... :thumbsup: I'm sure Behrle Hubbuch would appreciate that too!
I have a lot of Scottish blood in my ancestry. As such-- the Highlander has always been a core favorite.
I was SO stoked to work on the resulpt with Behrle, and was inspired by Drew William's pet project in his 20-942RE Atlas.
As well as the new at the time Highlander Art by the venerable Alex Iglesias.
I'm still happy with the mini. It's not perfect, but does certainly capture that awesome classic highlander heritage.
The new plastic Highlander is sweet, but it feels more like a bridge between the Highlander and Highlander IIC.
I just love the brutalist appeal of the old girl. Happy to have been involved. I miss working with Mike and the lot at IWM.
Anyway, enough pining for the good ole days... ;)
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I'll join in on loving that Highlander sculpt. My one complaint about it is that there's no convenient way to swap the arms around for a Shockwave paint job. :)
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I have three of those highlanders. It’s one of the best kits IWM has put out
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Its literal Mirror-verse Shockwave. 😅
I'll join in on loving that Highlander sculpt. My one complaint about it is that there's no convenient way to swap the arms around for a Shockwave paint job. :)
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Are we still getting the release calendar this week?
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Are we still getting the release calendar this week?
Well, we pretty much know that it's the Jade Phoenix, Mastodon, an a third unnamed mini that is not the Ion Sparrow or variants of the Thunderbolt or Commando.
My guess is it's the Thresher MKII or Firestorm.
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Well, we pretty much know that it's the Jade Phoenix, Mastodon, an a third unnamed mini that is not the Ion Sparrow or variants of the Thunderbolt or Commando.
My guess is it's the Thresher MKII or Firestorm.
Gah, I completely lost track of the Firestorm.. wouldn't mind seeing that one.
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I'd prefer the Inferno.
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brahma kuma parash
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Complete agreement that the new IWM Highlander is an amazing miniature. It was a ton of fun to build and paint. I am looking forward to getting the Steiner variants of it.
Also would love to see the RecGuides Viper made into a miniature and a resculpt of the Phantom based on the new art.
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I'd prefer the Inferno.
Oh hell yes, I will pay for my Gypsy Danger
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brahma kuma parash
Thank you for loving like every non-LAM TR3085 'Mech I wrote/designed. Well, aside from the Deep Dark Crow.
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Hey the Dark Crow was a very cool idea!
Thank you for loving like every non-LAM TR3085 'Mech I wrote/designed. Well, aside from the Deep Dark Crow.
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I’m a completionist. I put down a majority of the money to fund the Von Rohrs when it was the final mech out of 3075 and I’d kick in a healthy chunk of change for those three as well.
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Can we expect the next release schedule this week instead?
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I have three of those highlanders. It’s one of the best kits IWM has put out
Agree its one of the best. The Flashman was a nice add too.
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Can we expect the next release schedule this week instead?
Soon, I have to work out the last release with Mike. Hope to have finalized next week.
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Hyped.
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Zach at IWM posted an update on Twitter. Looks as though we are getting at least the Marauder with five different dorsal guns.
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Still no update on the release schedule?
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Zach at IWM posted an update on Twitter. Looks as though we are getting at least the Marauder with five different dorsal guns.
Do we know which ones?
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Probably the current one and the 2 from each of the Legends boxes.
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Well, I suspect that at least one of the Legends is going to be an AC 5.
My guess would be: AC 5, LB10-X, Gauss Rifle, Large Pulse Laser, and not sure about the last one. Light Gauss, Silver-Bullet, or LB5-X are all possibilities. I guess an Ultra 10 or a PPC could be another choice if they intended to do unique customs configs.
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Well one of the Red Hunters had a UAC/10 so I would expect that to be in place.
AC/5 MAD-1R/2R/3R
LB-10X MAD-5CS, MAD-5CS 'Heller,'
Gauss Rifle MAD-7S, MAD BH3044, MAD BH3138
UAC/10 MAD Red Hunter
I am not sure a Silver Bullet or Light Gauss rifle would really look different than a normal gauss rifle. We also get the MAD-2T's LB-5X or the MAD C's UAC5. The other option would be a energy mount, like the 3015 Bounty Hunter Marauder or Marauder 3D and the MAD-5D if you did not want to use the 'Phoenix' body style for that model. The 7D would also be the Phoenix body style, so same sort of deal for the RAC.
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I was just looking at Rec Guide variants, since I figured that was what they're going to focus on: we've already got a lot of Phoenix Marauder minis.
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I understand, which is why I listed out . . . the RAC only appears on a Phoenix model . . . RecGuide, the Light Gauss & Silver Bullet seem to be the most common with the 7R & 7C and 9D & 11D.
Basically the 1-3 series, 5CS, 7 series except the 7D, 9D, 11D, and Bounty Hunters are the 'classic' body style. The 5 series with a exception, 6L, 7D, and 9 series with a exception are Phoenix body style . . . question is are they going to make Phoenix series gun mounts as parts so those who wish can 'ignore' they look like that?
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Zach at IWM posted an update on Twitter. Looks as though we are getting at least the Marauder with five different dorsal guns.
Is there a link?
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I suspect that all the new minis IWM are planning will first go on sale at Gencon.
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Is there a link?
This was posted on the Demo Team Discord.
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The right hand "blister" could be a Jade Phoenix (chicken legs, double-barrel weapon)..
Compare with :
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Jade_Phoenix_RGilClan_v22.jpg
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Those seem distinctly non-metal...not that I'm complaining, just pointing it out.
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Could be premiums, but since the message comes from IWM, my money is on resin masters..
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Looks like, top to bottom, . . . AC/5 . . . Gauss Rifle? . . . energy gun . . . AC/10 series (LB & UAC) . . . and Light Gauss or Silver Bullet? the rear looks like the 2nd from the top.
It would cover most of the guns available for the Classic body style.
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Those seem distinctly non-metal...not that I'm complaining, just pointing it out.
Resin masters.
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While it sounds cool, can we please get NEW mechs? I'll be happy if it's the Marauder with gun variants and then the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon as speculated earlier.
It would be good if those guns could be bought separately, too!
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Speck already confirmed the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon. The Marauder just appears to be the third mech he hinted at but didn't name.
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There is a thread to request that.
While it sounds cool, can we please get NEW mechs? I'll be happy if it's the Marauder with gun variants and then the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon as speculated earlier.
It would be good if those guns could be bought separately, too!
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Resin masters.
Or the Fact that in the past, IWM has made Variants of the Base 'Mech, that are DIFFERENT FROM what CGL has produced.
"New Variants Inbound!" - Sure, COULD mean we're getting metal versions of the new Legendary MAD. Or maybe different VARIANTS altogether. cool
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Next release
Jade Phoenix Prime
Mastadon Prime and D
Marauder 3R and 5M (JJ separate parts)
OP part Marauder 3D, 5T and 5S gun sprue
Jade Phoenix A variant
Speck already confirmed the Jade Phoenix and Mastodon. The Marauder just appears to be the third mech he hinted at but didn't name.
Indeed, I was waiting to know the master parts were in house before posting.
I will have an updated release schedule up later today.
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Those seem distinctly non-metal...not that I'm complaining, just pointing it out.
The picture was of the 3D printed master parts from the company the prints them for IWM.
I suspect that all the new minis IWM are planning will first go on sale at Gencon.
That is the plan.
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Marauder 3R and 5M (JJ separate parts)
OP part Marauder 3D, 5T and 5S gun sprue
So . . . AC/5 & LB-10X (was middle gun on bottom 3 then) and LL, RAC/5, and Gauss . . . so the answer is, IWM is going to offer parts if folks want to ignore Phoenix/Classic body styles. Which is fine, I am not going to buy another Phoenix Marauder . . . maybe Marauder IIC, I like it's bulbous look.
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So save up for 5 Marauders minimum, got it.
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Marauder 3R and 5M (JJ separate parts)
<sees announcement of MAD with jump jets>
<looks over at just-completed MAD-9W with jump jets painstakingly grafted on>
WHERE WERE YOU LAST MONTH?! :wink:
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Now to start endless questions about the Ion Sparrow.
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Release schedule looks good! Thank you.
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*sigh*
Yeah
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Release schedule looks good! Thank you.
Is there a schedule? I did not see it on IWM site, not even this release we were told about here.
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<sees announcement of MAD with jump jets>
<looks over at just-completed MAD-9W with jump jets painstakingly grafted on>
WHERE WERE YOU LAST MONTH?! :wink:
Sorry, the JJ was a surprise to me as well.
Now to start endless questions about the Ion Sparrow.
It’s on the list, no need to ask.
Is there a schedule? I did not see it on IWM site, not even this release we were told about here.
Will be tonight.
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Next release
Jade Phoenix Prime
Mastadon Prime and D
Marauder 3R and 5M (JJ separate parts)
OP part Marauder 3D, 5T and 5S gun sprue
Jade Phoenix A variant
Indeed, I was waiting to know the master parts were in house before posting.
I will have an updated release schedule up later today.
To confirm, all other info I've seen in the past, the Mastodon comes as the Prime only, you're saying it will also have the D variant bits in the blister...correct?
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Now to start endless questions about the Ion Sparrow.
I'd prefer it if IWM put out some of the Inner Sphere Rec Guide designs first- we have yet to get any*
*Since Catalyst, not IWM, did the Eris.
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INFERNO! Come on baby light that fire . . .
Mongoose, Black Knight, Raijin, maybe Rawhide . . . or a Wraith since it is the AS pack.
and yeah, I would like a metal Eris too.
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INFERNO! Come on baby light that fire . . .
Mongoose, Black Knight, Raijin, maybe Rawhide . . . or a Wraith since it is the AS pack.
and yeah, I would like a metal Eris too.
Black Knight is already available...technically. It's the 20-5207
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To confirm, all other info I've seen in the past, the Mastodon comes as the Prime only, you're saying it will also have the D variant bits in the blister...correct?
Speck mentioned it back on June 16, the D bits will be in the blister with the Prime
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<sees announcement of MAD with jump jets>
<looks over at just-completed MAD-9W with jump jets painstakingly grafted on>
WHERE WERE YOU LAST MONTH?! :wink:
Apparently watching over your shoulder.
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Speck mentioned it back on June 16, the D bits will be in the blister with the Prime
Yeah, I spoke to Mike today, and he never made any mention of the D bits being in the blister, so I just wanted to make sure.
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How soon can we expect these to actually hit retail?
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To confirm, all other info I've seen in the past, the Mastodon comes as the Prime only, you're saying it will also have the D variant bits in the blister...correct?
The D come with the prime 20 code, it’s a set of arms.
How soon can we expect these to actually hit retail?
After Gen con, we will have them for sale at the show.
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The D come with the prime 20 code, it’s a set of arms.
Perfect thank you!
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Jumping Marauder bits!! What a great surprise!
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While I'm glad for all of those, still sad it's nothing but battlemechs. cry
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Speck,
Will both omnis have the variants parts in the same box, and not be a separate sku?
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Speck,
Will both omnis have the variants parts in the same box, and not be a separate sku?
Mastodon both are in blister
Jade Phoenix are not in same pack, since A is new legs and arms.
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Is there a CGI version of the Jade Phoenix variant?
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I'll be curious to see how the IJJs are shown on the A legs, sounds awesome.
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Very pleased to see the reseen Marauder make a metal appearence.
Also, interesting (cost/time saving I guess) approach with separate JJ.
Hopefully, this can be maintained for future releases.
A TBT-5J frex would then only require a new left arm and separate JJ for the legs and CT..
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That's great news! I am super excited to get some of the new Marauders in metal. Loving that there are optional jump jets and so many different top guns to be able to make all the variants.
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Is there a CGI version of the Jade Phoenix variant?
Not that it know of.
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Just saw the 3D renders of the 3 new mechs. They look fantastic! I just hope the scale/size is right! The Marauder parts would be perfect for modding other plastic Marauders I have lying around.
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Just saw the 3D renders of the 3 new mechs. They look fantastic! I just hope the scale/size is right! The Marauder parts would be perfect for modding other plastic Marauders I have lying around.
Where?
/thought
Any eta for these bad boys
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ETA is "after GenCon." Which could be anywhere between the end of August to the end of the year. Hopefully the former rather than the latter.
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Where?
/thought
Any eta for these bad boys
Aries..
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Lol, I am just waiting for the rest of the year release schedule.
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Where?
/thought
Any eta for these bad boys
ETA per IWM is shipping around the week of August 14th. I would also say that GenCon will be a factor, so it could possibly get pushed a week or two if they come back to a massive backlog of orders. Just keep in mind though...IWM is very gracious to allow retailers to sell Distribution items like those 30 days before they list them on their site for sale.
Aries..
Most appreciated sir!
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Just waiting on the Marauder II. Feels kind of a shame we have to wait for it.
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Where?
/thought
Any eta for these bad boys
Look in IWM New Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr) category. The rendors are on the product pages for the new release.
Just saw the 3D renders of the 3 new mechs. They look fantastic! I just hope the scale/size is right! The Marauder parts would be perfect for modding other plastic Marauders I have lying around.
I still have one at home that I can check. It will be a tight fit. I will have pictures up of the placement as soon as I can get them up. It mimics the placement of the JJ on Marauder II.
Just waiting on the Marauder II. Feels kind of a shame we have to wait for it.
Lol, I have it on my list.
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There is a new blister card that will be on the next set of new releases and on older SKU as packaged inventory is used up. I will get pictures up later today, but the front art is from Dominions Divided cover art.
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There is a new blister card that will be on the next set of new releases and on older SKU as packaged inventory is used up. I will get pictures up later today, but the front art is from Dominions Divided cover art.
Ya know...I was talking with Mike on this, and he said to give you the props for this change. While you guys could have picked any cover art, or something original...I have to say, this choice was darn near perfect. The coloring really stands out, and is really a heck of an eye catcher! So well done on the choice Speck! I really cannot think of a better choice of the current art work available.
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Ya know...I was talking with Mike on this, and he said to give you the props for this change. While you guys could have picked any cover art, or something original...I have to say, this choice was darn near perfect. The coloring really stands out, and is really a heck of an eye catcher! So well done on the choice Speck! I really cannot think of a better choice of the current art work available.
I had picked three different options, but I really like how the art and color change would stand out and different from what we did in the past.
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I really enjoy the cover of Empire Alone. It is perhaps my favorite in recent years, but do realize why it was perhaps not selected.
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I really enjoy the cover of Empire Alone. It is perhaps my favorite in recent years, but do realize why it was perhaps not selected.
What really won me over with Dominion Divided cover art was once I saw it on the blister card and how it fit perfectly with the cut outs.
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I didn't know there was a change in the works until I saw them at GenCon. Definitely a good choice for the artwork.
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Jade Phoenix, Mastodon, and Marauders have been spotted online for ordering!
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Any chance of the Devil being in the pipeline?
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Any chance of the Devil being in the pipeline?
Yes. However, there are some complications with my illustration last I'd heard, and-- comms have been completely silent since. I assume because of personal matters.
Anyway, it is in the works, but-- realistically I would not expect it anytime in the near future...
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Can't wait for my Jade Phoenix and Marauder to arrive. I've got really high expectations because the released digital image is so good. 👌
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I've been collecting reference pictures of Dancouga for my planned Mastodon kitbash. :cool:
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I would do dirty, dirty things for a Eurus sculpt. IMO, it's one of the biggest highlights of the recent RecGuides.Yes please, this.
I second this, I have an unreasonable love of the Eurus, such a nice looking tank, and being an omni on top of that? beautiful.
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Unless it does something very unconventional, it's got a gigantic problem in terms of real tank design.
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It's a good thing that doesn't really matter for BattleTech.
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Referring specifically to "such a nice looking tank".
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It's a good thing aesthetics have a large subjective component to them, then.
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My Jade Phoenix and Marauder arrived today. The Jade Phoenix lived up to my high expectations! Beautifully sculpted, great proportions and detail. I can't wait to prime/paint this one up! Its going to fit right in with my collection of Hierofalcons
The Marauder is a decent addition. Sadly, the sculpt has some 3D print lines on the carapace, and the scale is once again slightly smaller than the CGL plastics. But otherwise has great detail and the MAD-5M variant parts are SO nice! So overall I'm happy with mine.
Will probably get a Mastodon in due time.
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Got my Jade Phoenix and Mastodons today. Skipped the Marauder since (counting the two Legends packs from the Mercenaries kickstarter), I've already got a company's worth of unseen, Phoenix, Phoenix 2, and plastic classic machines.
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Marauder, Mastodon, and Jade Phoenix have arrived as well. Still want that Marauder II sooner rather than later though.
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Was there any news about additional variant parts for the Marauder?
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Yes. However, there are some complications with my illustration last I'd heard, and-- comms have been completely silent since. I assume because of personal matters.
Anyway, it is in the works, but-- realistically I would not expect it anytime in the near future...
Yes, it has been assigned but does not have a due date. Most likely in a 2024 release.
Marauder, Mastodon, and Jade Phoenix have arrived as well. Still want that Marauder II sooner rather than later though.
The Marauder II is on the to do list.
Was there any news about additional variant parts for the Marauder?
When the release goes live for sale on IWM webstore early September thr Marauder variant guns will be up as well for sale.
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Thanks Speck!
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One more question about the Marauder variant sprue, it is only dorsal guns right?
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One more question about the Marauder variant sprue, it is only dorsal guns right?
Yes
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Sweet! Thanks again Speck!
Yes
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Did we ever get posted releases for the rest of the year? I have to start turning in Christmas lists.
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We have not.
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Did we ever get posted releases for the rest of the year? I have to start turning in Christmas lists.
Working on it.
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Is it anywhere on the horizon to get Tufana, Thumper Artillery Vehicle, and/or R10 ICV sculpts?
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Is it anywhere on the horizon to get Tufana, Thumper Artillery Vehicle, and/or R10 ICV sculpts?
FWIW, the R10 was mentioned/nominated several times in the Fan Financing 3150 vehicle suggestion thread :
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,80349.0.html
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Is there any non mech and vehicles in the pipeline. Infantry, Battle Armor or even Aerospace fighters?
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FWIW, the R10 was mentioned/nominated several times in the Fan Financing 3150 vehicle suggestion thread :
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,80349.0.html
Well at least I’m not alone haha. If I had to rank order them I’d put the R10 at no. 1. Such an interesting little vehicle with some real potential in pewter given the Omni turrets.
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Well at least I’m not alone haha. If I had to rank order them I’d put the R10 at no. 1. Such an interesting little vehicle with some real potential in pewter given the Omni turrets.
The R10 is in the lead of the nominated vees with 5 votes, so who knows..
Agreed that it's a fine candidate for multiple versions, due to weapons being turret-mounted.
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So was the Bandit / Badger... Customs galore, but still the same turret assembly.
TT
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Hoping the new Marauder top gun kit is available soon! Looking forward to some Marauder builds
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Working on it.
Any news on the next couple releases?
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Is there any non mech and vehicles in the pipeline. Infantry, Battle Armor or even Aerospace fighters?
Not right now, I want to get some non mech Fan Finance projects going for next year.
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The Summer 2023 BT releases are now on IWM web store for sale, see announcement (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php?view=article&id=149:summor-2023-battletech-releases-are-available-in-iwm-store&catid=10).
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Hoping the new Marauder top gun kit is available soon! Looking forward to some Marauder builds
I will have that up on IWM web store this weekend, I need to take a picture of the sprue.
Any news on the next couple releases?
Soon, have two of three lined up and working on the third.
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Not right now, I want to get some non mech Fan Finance projects going for next year.
Pixiu . . . trying to remember what bandwagon I climbed on last time. Ogre . . . Leonidas
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Not right now, I want to get some non mech Fan Finance projects going for next year.
Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad.
I need it.
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Will the Jade Phoenix alt configuration go up soon?
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Will the Jade Phoenix alt configuration go up soon?
I need to check with Mike about that one and some other variants.
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As long as what's coming is online by Black Friday, it'll be cool for me :)
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Wasn't the Ursa quadmech announced once upon time? Or is my brain making things up?
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Not right now, I want to get some non mech Fan Finance projects going for next year.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing/contributing for some more BA choices such as the Calisto or Stormbird.
That being said, the Cuchulainn is still in the pipeline, quiaff ?
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Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing/contributing for some more BA choices such as the Calisto or Stormbird.
That being said, the Cuchulainn is still in the pipeline, quiaff ?
Yes, I need to have some adjustment done for casting. It’s been on my list to get done, more to come on that.
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Yes, I need to have some adjustment done for casting. It’s been on my list to get done, more to come on that.
Thank you for confirming !
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hi all,
Any info on the timeline for when we might see the light mech's Stinger, Wasp, and a Valkyrie?
SEEKER-1
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hi all,
Any info on the timeline for when we might see the light mech's Stinger, Wasp, and a Valkyrie?
SEEKER-1
3D or Metal?
TT
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hi all,
Any info on the timeline for when we might see the light mech's Stinger, Wasp, and a Valkyrie?
SEEKER-1
GoAC box is done and you are starting to see the KS Wave 1 IS mechs appear in metal so . . . year or three?
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Metal of course! Have had the inner sphere battle lance and command lance since from when they were first issued. Year or three? hope it more a year than the three! hope since we got one from each pack so far ie: Warhammer(Inner Sphere Battle Lance) and Marauder(command lance) it is sooner than later.
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The two most anticipated of those packs. The Clan KS mechs, IS& Clan, will be sprinkled in with new RecGuide mechs. It took how many years to work through the GoAC box?
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way too long, probably die of old age first. 55 as it is.
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four years for BB/AGOAC' 10 minis, although not exclusively. I'd actually prefer they focus on stuff that isn't in print in plastic, there's plenty of rec-guide stuff we need.
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Well, the last three years have been rather disruptive for IWM.
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four years for BB/AGOAC' 10 minis, although not exclusively. I'd actually prefer they focus on stuff that isn't in print in plastic, there's plenty of rec-guide stuff we need.
Except Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman, Archer, Timber Wolf, Dire Wolf, Warhawk, and Phoenix Hawk are more likely to sell than the Inferno, Rawhide, Eris, Hermit Crab, etc.
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Well, the last three years have been rather disruptive for IWM.
It really has been. I'm hoping they are soon to be on the other side of it.
I just hope that IWM can soon manage a more aggressive release schedule.
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Except Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman, Archer, Timber Wolf, Dire Wolf, Warhawk, and Phoenix Hawk are more likely to sell than the Inferno, Rawhide, Eris, Hermit Crab, etc.
Definitely a point, and I'd encourage them to do everything on that list. I'm not so sure about Hellbringer, battle Cobra or Howler getting priority treatment though. I expect Hammerhead and maybe even inferno to outperform them.
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Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad Spad.
I need it.
SO. MUCH. SPAD.
A friendly reminder that the release of a Spad mini is literally getting three birds with one finance, because it also gives us the Umbra* and Issedone fighters.
*and right now we have zero minis for RotS-native fighters. Seriously, nothing at all.
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Just saying, I won't put words in Weirdo's mouth but... Me, I'd put down triple-digits for a Spad to happen. My Belters and Blakists need them badly.
On a ground-based note, if anyone wants to pull to coordinate for financing the Eurus, I can chip in a little there.
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Funny... Micro Machine for the lowly Jeep from MW1 / Reinforcements V: Vehicles does not look bad, but I'd prefer to supply hard earned Cash on a proper mini!
Hell wheels on a Savannah Master would be fine!
TT
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I'd put money into the Spad as well. Would also like to see the Amaris Battleship if possible.
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Looks like the Marauder dorsal guns have quietly gone up (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-rgm/product/battletech-op-118).
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Looks like the Marauder dorsal guns have quietly gone up (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-rgm/product/battletech-op-118).
Query : are the IWM Marauder dorsal guns the same as the optional MAD guns in Mercs KS Legendary II and III ?
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Query : are the IWM Marauder dorsal guns the same as the optional MAD guns in Mercs KS Legendary II and III ?
We don't know yet.
Speck, are the Stormcrow B/TC sprues going to be up separately as well? Thanks!
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SO. MUCH. SPAD.
A friendly reminder that the release of a Spad mini is literally getting three birds with one finance, because it also gives us the Umbra* and Issedone fighters.
*and right now we have zero minis for RotS-native fighters. Seriously, nothing at all.
Are you saying you feel the need, the need for Spad?
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I'll name my Spad Flight, Snoopy, if it gets made.
TT
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Are you saying you feel the need, the need for Spad?
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Query : are the IWM Marauder dorsal guns the same as the optional MAD guns in Mercs KS Legendary II and III ?
We don't know yet.
Like stated we don't know for certain but with how the minis are produced now and comments in the AMAs about how with the new Legendary Mechwarrior packs we will be able to make almost all canon Marauder variants it is extremely likely that the weapon sprue and the new plastic Marauder guns are the same designs with only minor differences due to the mold making process.
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Are you saying you feel the need, the need for Spad?
The nad for Spad.
Welp, now I know what the nose art for one will be.
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The nad for Spad.
Also, when it crashes you need to use spadula to scoop up what left of it off the ground.
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Funny... Micro Machine for the lowly Jeep from MW1 / Reinforcements V: Vehicles does not look bad, but I'd prefer to supply hard earned Cash on a proper mini!
Hell wheels on a Savannah Master would be fine!
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Jeep: 8 for $14, American. https://www.ghqmodels.com/products/jeep
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Ugh...
Why?
Rather have https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Jeep.png (https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Jeep.png)
And if that costs $300 to get made, then I can pitch in half that.
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GHQ stuff is great looking, but too tiny, even compared to IWM infantry. When a modern 60-ton MBT is about as big as a 'Mech's foot, there's problem in my mind's eye.
And good luck, SPAD enthusiasts (and I'm resisting the temptation to say "all three of you") - but frankly I'd back more republic/dark age/ilclan era vehicles. We're seeing the 'Mechs, let's get the R-10s, the JI2A1s, the Skadis, the Anats, the Recog Guide tanks, that are available to multiple factions. But that's my preference.
At the end of the day, IWM got to make commercial decisions.
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Quick...
Everybody should donate a measley largest lowest single amount of money in a IWM slush fan fund.
Talking around the One Dollar or equivalent currency.
With over ten grand in fourmites and double that not registered... We should get about $16k give or take...
That way, someone could CAD either a 3D and sell that, or cast a set with random others for a profit
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Because I haven't asked this year . . .
Any word on the T-Bolt and other late Variants, Speck? :huh: Seems like a Commando variant is the other one long overdue? :undecided:
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IIRC there was also a Griffin variant that was being worked on at one point.
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More variants that could have been new chasses that currently have no minis at all... :(
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Certainly true, but it's generally easier to make a new mini when you can recycle at least some of the parts, whether that's legs, the torso, or the arms, from an already existing mold.
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I'm really looking forward to the Jade Phoenix alternate configuration.
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Waiting for my Marauder guns to ship and excited to build some variants.
It would be a nice build option if there were alternate pose Catapult legs available. There's a nice variety of Catapult variant kits (LRMs, Arrow IV, PPC versions) and the new sculpt is just gorgeous.
Would IWM be able to get the different pose legs from the K2 Catapult in the CGL Gray Death Legion Force Pack and produce them in metal?
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At the end of the day, IWM got to make commercial decisions.
Agreed. IWM has been a solid partner for Battletech and we all want them to succeed.
From what I've seen, I think IWM's latest ilClan era minis are some of the best B-Tech minis ever produced, including the CGL plastics. They may cost (much) more, but the quality is no longer an issue as it was just years ago.
I'm in favor of them continuing to release ilClan era minis and "variant/configuration" versions of existing CGL/IWM minis. Once the excitement of the second Kickstarter is done and CGL can invest more energy in promoting the current ilClan era, I think there will be more interest in the latest IWM minis and variant/config parts.
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I really love their commitment to producing so many variant minis.
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My Marauder guns have arrived! Uh, which one is the large laser and which one is the gauss rifle? The rotary is obvious lol
Mold slippage at the gun ends and the barrel tips are going to unfortunately need work to look good
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Waiting for mine to arrive as well.
My Marauder guns have arrived! Uh, which one is the large laser and which one is the gauss rifle? The rotary is obvious lol
Mold slippage at the gun ends and the barrel tips are going to unfortunately need work to look good
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From the supplied picture on IWM, I'd say the middle one is the large laser, and the one on the right is the gauss. Sometimes the barrel itself can give hints too.
My Marauder guns have arrived! Uh, which one is the large laser and which one is the gauss rifle? The rotary is obvious lol
Mold slippage at the gun ends and the barrel tips are going to unfortunately need work to look good
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Ugh...
Why?
Rather have https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Jeep.png (https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:Jeep.png)
And if that costs $300 to get made, then I can pitch in half that.
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Is that not the Wheeled scout they released?
https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories-3/product/battletech-bt-466/category_pathway-174 (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories-3/product/battletech-bt-466/category_pathway-174)
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No...
Those are 20 tons, the "Jeep":is 5.
Also TRO: Irregulars, Jeep from MW1 RPG and Reinforcements 5: Vehicles.
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Dear god, Jeep 5 tons is 4 tons too heavy.
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Not if theyre outfitted with the prescribed SRM-2
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Said vehicle does not currently have stats in either MUL or MML. MUL references its source as MW1e and that's about the extent of it. :cry:
However, said source does give it 6 armor all around and dedicates 2 tons to an SRM 2 or 2 MGs plus ammo. 5 tons is about right. (For reference, with stuff and crew, a slick HMMWV is 3 tons, 4 tons for an "armored" armament carrier, and 5+ tons for a UAH.)
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But the truck was IlTech as soon as the next catalog number was published (1608 CityTech, which introduced vehicle construction rules), so that might have something to do with it. Of note, the MW1 entry lacks an engine weight entry and that pushes the vehicle overweight by a quarter ton. <shrug>
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They should really put one in...
Think Anthony might dollop one up if it was commissionef by FanFunded to be included in an upcoming pdf?
I wonder...
*Speck...* Think this could be answered?
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Is there any word on the Variant for the Jade Phoenix?
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Or the promised next release schedule?
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This year we have six (6) new sculpts: Awesome, Warhammer, UrbanMech, Marauder, Jade Phoenix, and Mastodon.
Any chance we'll see another IWM release before next year?
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This year we have six (6) new sculpts: Awesome, Warhammer, UrbanMech, Marauder, Jade Phoenix, and Mastodon.
Any chance we'll see another IWM release before next year?
It's looking like we will not, we learned that our new printers of masters was taking off the rest of 2022. Which we will factor in for next year, our old printer would take June and July off. The next release is done and ready to be printed in January and work on the second release is already in process. I will have the info for the next release up on the web site soon. I just need to confirm something with Mike.
Is there any word on the Variant for the Jade Phoenix?
Yes, I will have information about it soon to post.From the supplied picture on IWM, I'd say the middle one is the large laser, and the one on the right is the gauss. Sometimes the barrel itself can give hints too.
You are correct, I thought I marked it on the image. I will get it updated.
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Because I haven't asked this year . . .
Any word on the T-Bolt and other late Variants, Speck? :huh: Seems like a Commando variant is the other one long overdue? :undecided:
IIRC there was also a Griffin variant that was being worked on at one point.
There has been no progress on them, they are still on the to do list.
We don't know yet.
Speck, are the Stormcrow B/TC sprues going to be up separately as well? Thanks!
I will add it to my list, I am still working on scrapyard pictures and adding some new stuff.
I'd put money into the Spad as well. Would also like to see the Amaris Battleship if possible.
At this point I would wait for new art on aerospace fighters. My luck the Spad is done and then not long later there is new art. As for the Amaris, the art is an issue, would need a high resolution due to the style of the ship.
Query : are the IWM Marauder dorsal guns the same as the optional MAD guns in Mercs KS Legendary II and III ?
I would say the odd are good that they are, since Anthony suggested more than what I originally ask for.
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Except Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman, Archer, Timber Wolf, Dire Wolf, Warhawk, and Phoenix Hawk are more likely to sell than the Inferno, Rawhide, Eris, Hermit Crab, etc.
There will be many mechs from the first KS that will be in coming releases from IWM. We are hoping to have Rec Guide mechs for ilClan era in releases as well, they usually take longer to have done. The KS models are complete except for parting and any variants that IWM will be doing.
Inferno is in process
Eris I am not sure a metal one will be done with the version that CGL has for sale still.
Hermit Crab is in process
Rawhide not on the list right now, but that could change in the future
There are a few other Rec Guide mechs that are high on the list and working with CGL on.
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Iron Cheetah, please.
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Alpha Wolf, please.
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Black Friday sale, please!
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Thank you for the update, really looking forward to that Jade Phoenix Variant.
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Black Friday sale, please!
You can find the information for that here (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php?view=article&id=150:iwm-black-friday-and-cyber-monday-2023-20-coupon&catid=10).
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You can find the information for that here (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php?view=article&id=150:iwm-black-friday-and-cyber-monday-2023-20-coupon&catid=10).
protomechs time
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You can find the information for that here (https://www.ironwindmetals.com/index.php?view=article&id=150:iwm-black-friday-and-cyber-monday-2023-20-coupon&catid=10).
Hadn't realised it's open - may as well drop it! Thanks!
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Iron Cheetah, please.
Alpha Wolf, please.
Both are on the list with CGL.
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At this point I would wait for new art on aerospace fighters. My luck the Spad is done and then not long later there is new art.
That's incredibly disappointing. Does this also apply to more recent fighters, such as those found in 3085 or the 3145s?
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Both are on the list with CGL.
As in 'expect plastic/resin versions first' or means IWM is working on them with CGL? I would really like to see RecGuide/mini-less units prioritized by IWM over metal versions of CGL plastics.
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That's incredibly disappointing. Does this also apply to more recent fighters, such as those found in 3085 or the 3145s?
I would say 3145/3150 is fine, I am not sure about 3085 since it is an older TRO. Would require inquiring with CGL. I just hate the idea of spending the resources to produce a model off art and down the road it is redone.
As in 'expect plastic/resin versions first' or means IWM is working on them with CGL? I would really like to see RecGuide/mini-less units prioritized by IWM over metal versions of CGL plastics.
IWM works with CGL since many of the ilClan designs have 3D assets at a certain level. It makes no sense to waste time and money to recreate something.
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IWM works with CGL since many of the ilClan designs have 3D assets at a certain level. It makes no sense to waste time and money to recreate something.
Thanks for the clarification, that's what I was hoping. That sounds like an excellent justification for doing new mechs over ones that already exist in CGL plastics!
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Any word on the Ursa? I think it might be the last mech from TRO 3145 that hasn't gotten a mini.
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there are a few others
Celerity
Cylliaros
Mongrel
Storm Raider
Ursa
Violator
Also from 3150
Boreas
Harpagos
Phoenix Hawk L
Stalking Spider II
Yinguochong
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Right. Any word on any of them?
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we've also got 3 from 3085!
Brahma
Kuma
Parash
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we've also got 3 from 3085!
Brahma
Kuma
Parash
Don't forget the Panther and Wolfhound variants.
And the Football Atlas.
Wait, by all means DO forget that one.
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I mean there’s also the Phoenix II set that we got a few of and the trio of industrials if you want to go full completionist
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we've also got 3 from 3085!
Brahma
Kuma
Parash
...all three of which I wrote up. Ouch.
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We need this 70 tonner made...
The OstBosch.
Gladly will plop down some cash for a model.
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Don't forget the Panther and Wolfhound variants.
And the Football Atlas.
Wait, by all means DO forget that one.
Just be glad it doesn't have all the spikes and tusks that the Dark Age mini had. It was truly a mech for the post-apocalyptic Australian Outback.
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we've also got 3 from 3085!
Brahma
Kuma
Parash
I wouldn't mind seeing a Kuma done by Scroggins & team.
Somewhat related, check out Sleeping-Demons DeviantArt page for some Mech pixel art (including a Kuma 2).
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I mean there’s also the Phoenix II set that we got a few of and the trio of industrials if you want to go full completionist
We absolutely do. Need more industrials.
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Speaking as someone who has at least two of every IndustrialMech mini - yes.
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Don't forget the Panther and Wolfhound variants.
And the Football Atlas.
Wait, by all means DO forget that one.
No, don't forget that, looks nice! (Also needs spikey-bits as an option for MWDA-looks.)
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Could we add the Hierofalcon Prime and Jade Phoenix arm sprue to the store?
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No, don't forget that, looks nice! (Also needs spikey-bits as an option for MWDA-looks.)
I'd get one just to paint it up like a Futurama Robot.
How about the Hermit Crab?
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How about the Hermit Crab?
Speck mentioned on page 43 the Hermit Crab is in progress.
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Speck mentioned on page 43 the Hermit Crab is in progress.
Oh? Missed it completely. Got to go back and look. Thanks!
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Could we add the Hierofalcon Prime and Jade Phoenix arm sprue to the store?
I will add to the list.
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A special holiday 2023 promotion (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php?view=article&id=151:a-special-holiday-2023-promotion&catid=10), the Wasp and Valkyrie will be on available on IWM webstore for two weeks only, from Saturday December 9th thru Friday December 22nd.
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Ok that's a pretty cool surprise! Just a quick note, the Valkyrie link seems to go to the Wasp page.
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And I thought I was done spending money on minis for the year....
Cool to see those molds are still available. Is there a reason they are typically taken out of circulation? If that is not something that can be answered no worries.
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Ok that's a pretty cool surprise! Just a quick note, the Valkyrie link seems to go to the Wasp page.
Yeah I noticed that AFTER I bought them.
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And I thought I was done spending money on minis for the year....
Cool to see those molds are still available. Is there a reason they are typically taken out of circulation? If that is not something that can be answered no worries.
I was wondering about that too. The Wasp disappeared right at the beginning of the decisive lawsuit and never really came back, I don't even know if the Valk made it to stores.
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It did not. Con exclusive
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Ok that's a pretty cool surprise! Just a quick note, the Valkyrie link seems to go to the Wasp page.
I have fixed that.I was wondering about that too. The Wasp disappeared right at the beginning of the decisive lawsuit and never really came back, I don't even know if the Valk made it to stores.
Valkyrie never got released, was just finished when Wasp was pulled.
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I have fixed that.
Valkyrie never got released, was just finished when Wasp was pulled.
Thanks, speck. Are they "vaulted" now due to limited demand or is there another reason you can share?
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I think it was more of a case that they didn't match the new artwork.
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I think it was more of a case that they didn't match the new artwork.
Oh, OK, so they were early models that underwent some changes later? Understandable.
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Speck could give you the official answer, but those two minis came out before the Kickstarter redid all the Macross-dervived mechs and used different art.
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Yes, there was a time when it appeared CGL was willing to use the Dougram art and authorize miniatures with very similar design to the old 1980s minis, but then the final Harmony Gold lawsuit paused further activities until that was resolved.
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Speck could give you the official answer, but those two minis came out before the Kickstarter redid all the Macross-dervived mechs and used different art.
They came out before the first KS like the Shadow Hawk, but were pulled / not released when the lawsuit happened. They are based on the same art as the CGL minis.
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Must be something with the angle or lighting of the images, then, because they look similar but different to my plastics.
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There were some minor alterations between some of the designs that appeared in the Combat Manuals and First/Second Succession War and the versions in the Kickstarter, which probably accounts for it.
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Just want to call out the good people at IWM again. My Black Friday order arrived yesterday. Which, given I'm in Australia, is pretty spiffing good! Thanks again, IWM crew!
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Just want to call out the good people at IWM again. My Black Friday order arrived yesterday. Which, given I'm in Australia, is pretty spiffing good! Thanks again, IWM crew!
I will pass on your compliments.
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Please do! It was a lovely brick of happiness. I was thrown slightly by the four Cyranos packed in one bag, but they were clearly labelled.
And the fact that - twice - the Black Friday orders made it down here before Christmas.
Looking forward to a lot of assembly to keep me busy into the new year!
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Hey Speck any idea on when we are getting 3050 style metal phoenix hawks and metal stingers yet? Also do you have an idea when the release schedule will be updated for next year?
Thanks and I hope you have a Happy Holiday and a Great New Years! :cheesy:
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Hey Speck any idea on when we are getting 3050 style metal phoenix hawks and metal stingers yet? Also do you have an idea when the release schedule will be updated for next year?
Thanks and I hope you have a Happy Holiday and a Great New Years! :cheesy:
Do you mean metal version of the new art for Phoenix Hawk and Stinger?
I plan to update the release schedule after the holidays.
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Do you mean metal version of the new art for Phoenix Hawk and Stinger?
I plan to update the release schedule after the holidays.
Yes a metal version of the new art for both mechs, A duel wielding large laser p hawk would be Awesome! :wink:
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Yes a metal version of the new art for both mechs, A duel wielding large laser p hawk would be Awesome! :wink:
Indeed it would be.
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Any news on what 2024 has in store?
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Would love to see more ilClan designs out, like the Blood Reaper 3, Naga II, Alpha Wolf OmniMech, Doom Courser OmniMech, Kontio, Gyrfalcon 5, and Ion Sparrow OmniMech.
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Iron Cheetah and Viper, please.
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Continuing the trend of releasing the box set mechs and producing a metal Vindicator would be very welcome
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Continuing the trend of releasing the box set mechs and producing a metal Vindicator would be very welcome
Yeah, that would be great. Especially for those of us who didn't feel like buying another starter box for one mini.
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Seconding metal Vindies - except scale them back down a little, please. The intro box one fits in with the heavies IMHO.
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Alpha Wolf OmniMech
Iron Cheetah
Speck has mentioned that Catalyst is doing those, so it will probably be a little while before they get released by IWM.
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Celerity! Celerity! Celerity!
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Veeeeehicles.
And mech or vee, no redundancies either, please. If a chassis is already out from either IWM *or* Catalyst, then that production slot would be better used making something that has no mini at all.
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Seyla!
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Veeeeehicles.
And mech or vee, no redundancies either, please. If a chassis is already out from either IWM *or* Catalyst, then that production slot would be better used making something that has no mini at all.
That's what I said when people wanted a VV1 Ranger. I pointed out how the MWDA minis are a still a dime a dozen, and easy to pop off of their click bases. I was told that being available on the secondary market means that they're unavailable.
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You were informed correctly.
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MWDA is getting expensive where I am anyway.
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It's running out, true.
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Not terribly surprising for a game that's been out of print for something like 15 years.
Back on topic, I have a question about the Wasp and Valkyrie: if they're (basically) the same as the plastic minis from the Clan Invasion packs, why haven't they been put up for general sale? Given that they were only sold in plastic in a single lance pack each that have now become rather rare, it seems like it would be an easy choice to put them up for general sale in metal.
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Not terribly surprising for a game that's been out of print for something like 15 years.
Does indicate the quantities produced that it's taken this long for stocks to become low, but yes, all good things must come to an end eventually.
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Not terribly surprising for a game that's been out of print for something like 15 years.
Back on topic, I have a question about the Wasp and Valkyrie: if they're (basically) the same as the plastic minis from the Clan Invasion packs, why haven't they been put up for general sale? Given that they were only sold in plastic in a single lance pack each that have now become rather rare, it seems like it would be an easy choice to put them up for general sale in metal.
I'll let Speck handle the "why" of that question on the Wasp & Valk...but, the ForcePacks aren't really rare...however I get why you're saying that. Catalyst is just not doing a very good job at keeping them in distribution. They are still being produced, have not been discontinued, so restocks should be coming in at some point.
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I'll let Speck handle the "why" of that question on the Wasp & Valk...but, the ForcePacks aren't really rare...however I get why you're saying that. Catalyst is just not doing a very good job at keeping them in distribution. They are still being produced, have not been discontinued, so restocks should be coming in at some point.
The out of print was referring to MWDA I believe.
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The wasp and valk were taken off the webstore after a limited run
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr/product/battletech-20-5145/category_pathway-2
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The wasp and valk were taken off the webstore after a limited run
https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr/product/battletech-20-5145/category_pathway-2
Yes, and I'm wondering why they were only given a limited run instead of being put into general production.
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Yes, and I'm wondering why they were only given a limited run instead of being put into general production.
I thought it was mentioned somewhere that they went through their own redesign before the plastic redesign so they took them out of general distribution.
Part of it I'm sure is marketing. You have an item that's only available for a limit time, people's FOMO gets triggered, so they rush to order one. While they're already placing an order, they start thinking about other things they wanted to pick and and figure, "long as I'm here..."
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I thought it was mentioned somewhere that they went through their own redesign before the plastic redesign so they took them out of general distribution.
Part of it I'm sure is marketing. You have an item that's only available for a limit time, people's FOMO gets triggered, so they rush to order one. While they're already placing an order, they start thinking about other things they wanted to pick and and figure, "long as I'm here..."
Pretty much what happened to me! Let's get the limited run and oh! More stuff.
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I thought it was mentioned somewhere that they went through their own redesign before the plastic redesign so they took them out of general distribution.
Yeah, but how many other minis do we have multiple versions of, and you can still get them, all? :huh: NOT counting the FASA/RP Unseen sculpts of course. Sure, they push/sell the "New Darling", but they keep the older ones around also.
I remember hearing it was ORIGINALLY because, in the last HG Nonsense, IWM had NOT been mentioned in the lawsuit, and since the lawsuit had been dismissed against CGL, HBS and Piranha Games, that did NOT exclude IWM from being singled out at a later date. And Frankly, IWM just doesn't have "Money to Burn" for such lawsuits. :tongue:
So IWM can make them, but NOT "Sell" them, which is why CGL was selling them at GC and other Cons. :rolleyes: Yeah, tell me that wasn't a HUGE Pain In The Ass for both companies! :shocked:
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But IWM is making and selling the nuSeen Marauder and Warhammer now, so whatever concerns they might have had about lawsuits is obviously over.
And I was the one who originally thought that the metal Wasp and Valk were different from the plastic minis, but according to Speck they are not.
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Harmony Gold is no longer a factor when it comes to BattleTech. That era is definitively over.
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Sounds like the answer is marketing gimmick then.
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And I was the one who originally thought that the metal Wasp and Valk were different from the plastic minis, but according to Speck they are not.
They are slightly different from the ones in the CGL Forcepacks including details and some slight scaling differences on the Wasp.
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Speck has mentioned that Catalyst is doing those, so it will probably be a little while before they get released by IWM.
I believe he mentioned that in regards to them doing the artwork and associated 3D renders for them and that there was no sense in IWM doing the renders and doubling up on the work. Not necessarily that they will be CGL releases.
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Back to the subject of Pipeline Speculation... I'm predicting we get several ilClan mechs in the First/Second Quarter Release (as opposed to Classic Inner Sphere designs).
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better be Ion Sparrows and Kontios!!!
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I would like some Ion Sparrows.
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I would be very pleased with Ion Sparrow and Kontio. Would also enjoy a Thresher Mk II.
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I would really love a Rime Otter.
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I would really love a Rime Otter.
You and me both.
The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
As such it holds a special place. With the new Grizzly plastic-- I doubt we'll ever see an otter mini.
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...before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
Wow...Sorry to hear that man. Definitely not that way in the eyes of many in this community
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The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
I did not like that sentence at all.
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I doubt we'll ever see an otter mini.
Maybe not in the plastic, but with what they are doing I would be surprised by that . . . sure you might be able to proxy a Griz, but I would expect it to come out from IWM at some point. Wolf, Falcon, and Bear mechs are probably the top selling Clan designs.
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You and me both.
The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
As such it holds a special place. With the new Grizzly plastic-- I doubt we'll ever see an otter mini.
Wow, I am shocked, your catalog is excellent and plenty of vehicles and mechs that I love.
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Thanks guys. Appreciate you.
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Would we need pool money to get the Otter made like other minis in the past?
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Wow...Sorry to hear that man. Definitely not that way in the eyes of many in this community
Seriously. I’ve always been a fan of your work.
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That's a real shame, your artwork has made for some of the best IWM minis in the past few years!
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I especially love your work on the Primitives, they made a real impact.
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You and me both.
The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
As such it holds a special place. With the new Grizzly plastic-- I doubt we'll ever see an otter mini.
Wait, Historical: Brush Wars and Handbook: House Marik were printed with the art they did and it's yours that wasn't good enough for BattleTech?
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I especially love your work on the Primitives, they made a real impact.
Agreed. For example, the Primitive Wasp has become my absolute favorite Wasp art since its introduction.
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You and me both.
The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT.
:cussing: Does this mean that the Devil was the other one? As a OWA/RA player this is frustrating as I'm guessing no Otter also means no Devil.
This makes no sense as your work was good enough to feature in multiple RG:iC volumes, including as the cover art.
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I really appreciate the kind words. There are many great people here. One of the reasons Battletech has been such an obsession over the years. Come for the stompy-stompy. Stay for the community!
Known Glitch-- Matt Cross was working on the Devil model some months back. I thought it would eventually happen. However, from what little I've heard through the grapevine I believe he is now working on other projects? I wouldn't give up hope on the Devil. Supposedly Anthony has done a heavy revision to the art before Matt's modeling.
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...The Otter was one of the final two illustrations I was blessed get assigned before being told that my work was not good enough to continue freelance BT...
Excuse me?! I'm stunned and appalled.
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Yeah, as a business leader I can't imagine telling a freelancer that their work is "not good enough" as the basis for cutting ties. Why not just say "we're interested in a different artwork direction" or something like that? Crazy.
@IAMCLANWOLF - you're work IS valuable and I've enjoyed it.
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I really appreciate the kind words. There are many great people here. One of the reasons Battletech has been such an obsession over the years. Come for the stompy-stompy. Stay for the community!
Known Glitch-- Matt Cross was working on the Devil model some months back. I thought it would eventually happen. However, from what little I've heard through the grapevine I believe he is now working on other projects? I wouldn't give up hope on the Devil. Supposedly Anthony has done a heavy revision to the art before Matt's modeling.
Devil is happening! I'm just dragging my heels.
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Players wanting the Devil: :director:
Stinger: :smilie_character_fishing:
Couldn't resist... :blank:
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I'd settle for a release calendar...
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Devil is happening! I'm just dragging my heels.
:drinking01: Get to work!
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Do you mean metal version of the new art for Phoenix Hawk and Stinger?
I plan to update the release schedule after the holidays.
Hi Speck, do you still have plans to release the next schedule? Thanks!
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I will continue to have dreams of the doom courser appearing, I want my quad mech with turret and little tail radio.
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Remember when IWM made a big push about all those new social media channels and an increased focus on communication?
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In November, Speck posted that: "The next release is done and ready to be printed in January and work on the second release is already in process. I will have the info for the next release up on the web site soon. I just need to confirm something with Mike."
I think it we can assume that there have been more problems with the printer than previously anticipated than just choosing not to provide updates. Remember, there were only 6 new mechs released in all of 2023. So the process is just taking a lot longer than we are all used to.
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IWM has certainly had its share of problems in recent years.
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IWM has certainly had its share of problems in recent years.
Yes, thats true.
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Can somebody let the IWM crew know that the new Catapult (20-5182) arm/LRM launcher molds are in bad shape? I have three different sets of the missile launchers and they all have severe cracking lines in them. One of my Catapults torsos looks the same way. I sent them a message months ago but never got a response.
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Will we get a Q1 release schedule before Q1 is over?
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I am concerned that we haven't heard anything in so long -- even their social media accounts are pretty much dormant.
I would imagine IWM can handle a larger release schedule, but whatever is happening behind the scenes must be disrupting things tremendously.
Can somebody let the IWM crew know that the new Catapult (20-5182) arm/LRM launcher molds are in bad shape? I have three different sets of the missile launchers and they all have severe cracking lines in them. One of my Catapults torsos looks the same way. I sent them a message months ago but never got a response.
My bet is that has to do with the 3D-printed master IWM got. I wish IWM had told their printer to do it again and make sure he sent a better print. Ultimately it falls on IWM for not insisting on better quality work.
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I am concerned that we haven't heard anything in so long -- even their social media accounts are pretty much dormant.
I would imagine IWM can handle a larger release schedule, but whatever is happening behind the scenes must be disrupting things tremendously.
My bet is that has to do with the 3D-printed master IWM got. I wish IWM had told their printer to do it again and make sure he sent a better print. Ultimately it falls on IWM for not insisting on better quality work.
While I/We haven't heard anything in a LONG time (Good OR Bad), I know Melissa "Da Office Wench" Morello was fighting cancer. Back in '22 at least, which was the last I'd heard anything about her. Got to see her briefly at GC '22, and she looked as good as always, considering what she's going through. Mike made her retire and FORBADE her from going to work!
I had the impression that Mike and Melissa were the "Management" for IWM, so it would be on them or someone one of them appointed, to look over QC Issues. If Mike is the One, he's busy as HELL on a SLOW day. :shocked: If the Catapult molds came in on a day he was busy with other things, it could've simply "slipped through the cracks". :undecided: I don't know, and WE don't know.
Also, as much as some of us LOVE IWM and BT, the simple FACT is that BT minis are basically nothing more than a side line for IWM. :undecided: Their "Bread & Butter" is making minis for OTHER games. Their other jobs keep the lights on, BT minis simply buys their toilet paper. :laugh:
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Spring 2023 Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) is up on the release schedule. I will have pictures added in the next day. Sorry for the delay in getting this posted, several parts were missed in the shipment from the printer in late January. They finally came this month and the factory crew is in process of getting everything molded and made for the release.
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Sorry for my disappearance on here the last few months, the Holiday had me busy and than once we got into January I had bad news from my day job. They are outsourcing our area and that our job offers would require relocation, it was not until late February that we finally had offers and our relocation was many states away. Since our offers would require relocation, I eligible for severance from my employer. I still have a few months to go, but it has caused chaos in my free time. But things have stabilized for me and I will go back and answer some questions.
I am concerned that we haven't heard anything in so long -- even their social media accounts are pretty much dormant.
I would imagine IWM can handle a larger release schedule, but whatever is happening behind the scenes must be disrupting things tremendously.
My bet is that has to do with the 3D-printed master IWM got. I wish IWM had told their printer to do it again and make sure he sent a better print. Ultimately it falls on IWM for not insisting on better quality work.
I will check with Mike about the social media stuff, that was being done by someone at the factory.
Things should be getting batter going forward, progress has been made with getting future releases parted and files ready to be sent for printing. We have a new company doing the printing now, since last year that has done a very good job. We did get caught off guard by the time off at end of year by the person who does the printing. We know now and it should not be an issue going forward.
There were some of the parts that did get redone for the catapult and locust, that had new molds done on them. I was not able to get every single part redone, due to molding costs. For catapult it was the legs and Body.
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Well, going to be ordering extra Archers and Rifleman mechs for sure!
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Best of luck on the day job front, Speck
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Will we get a Q1 release schedule before Q1 is over?
There will be three releases in 2024 of 4 mechs. I just posted Spring 2023 and already have ideas for next two. Some I already have files for, but not sent to the printer who prints the master parts.
I will continue to have dreams of the doom courser appearing, I want my quad mech with turret and little tail radio.
That is on the list, it will happen.
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Glad to hear the update, hope things go well with your new job.
Pretty surprised to see the Night Gyr on on the list, but the old sculpt was definitely suffering from being a 90s Ral Partha creation. Wish there was a new Rec Guide design like the Inferno, Rime Otter, or Iron Cheetah on the list but I'm not turning down a Jade Phoenix A.
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I hope you get a nicer job soon, Mark.
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Jade Phoenix is pretty exciting, hope there's a possibility of alternate arms in the future. The rest of the wave being existing CGL plastics is not as exciting. CGL's about to drop a whole shedload more plastic based on the Mercs deliveries and the roadmap we've seen. Why can't IWM focus on filling in the gaps?
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Ok, last year's Spring release?
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Glad to hear the update, hope things go well with your new job.
Pretty surprised to see the Night Gyr on on the list, but the old sculpt was definitely suffering from being a 90s Ral Partha creation. Wish there was a new Rec Guide design like the Inferno, Rime Otter, or Iron Cheetah on the list but I'm not turning down a Jade Phoenix A.
That is why I picked the Night Gyr, plus the D variant was done that will come out later.
Inferno - Is in process, as mentioned before
Rime Otter - Is on the list but needs CAD model built
Iron Cheetah - Is also on the list, and in process with CGL
I hope you get a nicer job soon, Mark.
Thanks
I will create and sticky a thread with what is in the works.
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Thinking about the Night Gyr mini got me thinking: should the Rec Guide sculpts for the redone Clan Omnis be labeled "Prime/T" rather than just "Prime?" Or would that be potentially too confusing for people who might think that it was coming with the parts to make two different models?
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Thank you Speck!
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Good to hear from you speck. Hope things start looking up with your job situation.
I am excited to see the Rifleman in pewter; especially the 3C model. Will be good to have the modern Archer and Night Gyr in metal as well. The Night Gyr D is the one with all the missiles isn't it? That will be really snazzy. Don't know too much about modern era designs but the Jade Phoenix is cool looking for sure.
Thank you for the heads up on the Catapult molds.
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That is why I picked the Night Gyr, plus the D variant was done that will come out later.
Inferno - Is in process, as mentioned before
Rime Otter - Is on the list but needs CAD model built
Iron Cheetah - Is also on the list, and in process with CGL
Thanks
I will create and sticky a thread with what is in the works.
I’m so happy to hear Rime Otter is on the list!
Thank you for the update and best of luck with your job situation!
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Thinking about the Night Gyr mini got me thinking: should the Rec Guide sculpts for the redone Clan Omnis be labeled "Prime/T" rather than just "Prime?" Or would that be potentially too confusing for people who might think that it was coming with the parts to make two different models?
I have been thinking about this as well. I might add a note in the description for them. Think that would be helpful but not confusing?
Example: Also the T configuration from Rec Guide #
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I have been thinking about this as well. I might add a note in the description for them. Think that would be helpful but not confusing?
Example: Also the T configuration from Rec Guide #
I honestly think the majority of people are used to the title of the miniature having the variant listed. New people may be a little confused at first, but they will get past that.
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Spring 2023 Release (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/release-schedule-main) is up on the release schedule. I will have pictures added in the next day. Sorry for the delay in getting this posted, several parts were missed in the shipment from the printer in late January. They finally came this month and the factory crew is in process of getting everything molded and made for the release.
I have added product pages and images for the new releases to the New releases category (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr).
The spring releases will be available on IWM web store May 20th and shipping to retail stores the week of April 22nd.
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I have been thinking about this as well. I might add a note in the description for them. Think that would be helpful but not confusing?
Example: Also the T configuration from Rec Guide #
I like the idea, but it is potentially a large project. Would you do it for IS ‘mechs?
I think the ARC-2R sculpt would also fit the 4M, 4M2, 7C, Archer C, and (almost) 2Rb.
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I have added product pages and images for the new releases to the New releases category (https://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/categories/cat-battletech/cat-bt-nr).
The spring releases will be available on IWM web store May 20th and shipping to retail stores the week of April 22nd.
Looking good. Interesting to see that the Night Gyr has the old "salt shaker" style autocannon. Don't think I've seen a mini that's done that in a few years.
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Sorry for my disappearance on here the last few months, the Holiday had me busy and than once we got into January I had bad news from my day job. They are outsourcing our area and that our job offers would require relocation, it was not until late February that we finally had offers and our relocation was many states away. Since our offers would require relocation, I eligible for severance from my employer. I still have a few months to go, but it has caused chaos in my free time. But things have stabilized for me and I will go back and answer some questions.
I will check with Mike about the social media stuff, that was being done by someone at the factory.
Things should be getting batter going forward, progress has been made with getting future releases parted and files ready to be sent for printing. We have a new company doing the printing now, since last year that has done a very good job. We did get caught off guard by the time off at end of year by the person who does the printing. We know now and it should not be an issue going forward.
There were some of the parts that did get redone for the catapult and locust, that had new molds done on them. I was not able to get every single part redone, due to molding costs. For catapult it was the legs and Body.
Bad news. I hope your work situation gets sorted soon and in a satisfactory way. Goof luck!
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I like the idea, but it is potentially a large project. Would you do it for IS ‘mechs?
I think the ARC-2R sculpt would also fit the 4M, 4M2, 7C, Archer C, and (almost) 2Rb.
Yes, it definitely would expand to others. Would have to get a good list of the Inner Sphere stuff. I think it would be helpful information.
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@Speck
Now that the Clan Spaniel sourcebook has dropped, any notions on making a IWM version of a Force Pack with their primary mechs and battle armor in it?
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@Speck
Now that the Clan Spaniel sourcebook has dropped, any notions on making a IWM version of a Force Pack with their primary mechs and battle armor in it?
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I will look at it.
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Clan Spaniel (an April Fools joke) is so niche, it would be a waste of resources. Still fun to think about.
Any chance we'll be seeing Phoenix Hawk variants like the PHX-3M or PHX-3K? The Marauder, Catapult, Awesome, and Wolverine variant pieces are fantastic. Would also love to see arms for a LCT-3D Locust.
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Supposed to have Commando and Griffin variant parts released also. Locust 1S arms would be neat too.
Clan Spaniel (an April Fools joke) is so niche, it would be a waste of resources. Still fun to think about.
Any chance we'll be seeing Phoenix Hawk variants like the PHX-3M or PHX-3K? The Marauder, Catapult, Awesome, and Wolverine variant pieces are fantastic. Would also love to see arms for a LCT-3D Locust.
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Clan Spaniel (an April Fools joke) is so niche, it would be a waste of resources. Still fun to think about.
Any chance we'll be seeing Phoenix Hawk variants like the PHX-3M or PHX-3K? The Marauder, Catapult, Awesome, and Wolverine variant pieces are fantastic. Would also love to see arms for a LCT-3D Locust.
Completely agree on both points here. I love the new classic mech variants that are available in metal and hope to see more. Phoenix Hawks would be great
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Consider this, while mute, a lot of players might just buy it for both a prosperity and as a niche item.
Where else could you find a pre-made unit, in Metal, and not having to spend loads on individually shipped parts as well. Even if you do not want to recreate this Official unit, you'd at least increased IWM awareness to such possible packs, and got minis and helped the economy. Who knows, they may even do other styles as well.
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Unfortunately, the show is set before a lot of really appropriate ‘Mechs were in production. Oscar Otter has to run an Ice Ferret instead of a Rime Otter. Polly’s ride would be far better as a Gyrfalcon than a Kingfisher.
On the other hand, any Warhammer IIC can be painted as a WarHamster IIC for Star Commander Nibbles.
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Clan Spaniel (an April Fools joke) is so niche, it would be a waste of resources. Still fun to think about.
Would it really be a waste of resources? It's just taking some existing minis and bundling them together as a set.
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Unfortunately, the show is set before a lot of really appropriate ‘Mechs were in production. Oscar Otter has to run an Ice Ferret instead of a Rime Otter. Polly’s ride would be far better as a Gyrfalcon than a Kingfisher.
On the other hand, any Warhammer IIC can be painted as a WarHamster IIC for Star Commander Nibbles.
If you notice, they have 3 eras of units to portray in. And then there is that disclaimer at the end of the Sourcebook...
Second from last page, "Page 47".
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Oh, I noticed. (I wrote it :evil:)
At GenCon 2024’s Masters vs Minions, I’ll be fielding a Gyrfalcon in Polly’s colors, backed by Foxy’s Kit Fox.
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Hopefully, with a Ferdinan Elemental unit or two hopping around...
I mean, a few Steer horns and your gold... :smilie_happy_thumbup:
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I’ll have a box of minis painted in Spaniel colors, and definitely plan to horn-up some elementals, plus do up Ferdinan’s Minotaur Proto, too.
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I don't know what IWM's direction or limitations are for the Battletech line, but I'd like to see IWM offer what CGL doesn't. So, altenate variants or configurations of popular designs; new mechs/vehicles that aren't or won't be sold by CGL. I guess I don't understand why IWM will sell a metal Archer ARC-2R for $19.00 (not including base) when someone can buy a lance of 4 mechs, including an ARC-2R Archer for roughly the same price. Now, if the IWM version was a variant like an ARC-2S, ARC-5S or something, I would think it would be just as popular if not more so. But perhaps I'm just really mistaken about that.
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Well, all the Wave 1 Clan Invasion packs are fairly hard to find at this point.
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(Note that the ARC-#S and -#W are in the Legends pack :wink:)
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I don't know what IWM's direction or limitations are for the Battletech line, but I'd like to see IWM offer what CGL doesn't. So, altenate variants or configurations of popular designs; new mechs/vehicles that aren't or won't be sold by CGL. I guess I don't understand why IWM will sell a metal Archer ARC-2R for $19.00 (not including base) when someone can buy a lance of 4 mechs, including an ARC-2R Archer for roughly the same price. Now, if the IWM version was a variant like an ARC-2S, ARC-5S or something, I would think it would be just as popular if not more so. But perhaps I'm just really mistaken about that.
I keep saying this as well. I don't understand why there can't be better coordination between IWM and CGL for what's on offer. The lines should be complementary.
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...new mechs/vehicles that aren't or won't be sold by CGL.
SO MUCH THIS. I don't care I've but about variants but I'm not gonna yuck another's yum, but it's always a big disappointment whenever a release schedule gets posted and there isn't at least one brand-new chassis that isn't available in any form yet.
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Well, all the Wave 1 Clan Invasion packs are fairly hard to find at this point.
It looks to me like most of them are in stock in the Catalyst store right now. Am I misreading it?
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The Command Lance is, the Battle Lance is not. And neither are easy to find in other places besides the Catalyst store.
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The Command Lance is, the Battle Lance is not. And neither are easy to find in other places besides the Catalyst store.
From a retailer perspective, there are MANY issues with PSI (the warehouse company Catalyst uses) when it comes to stocking distribution. Many years of lengthy emails have taught me that many times it doesn't seem like much of a priority for PSI to restock their distributors...either by accident or on purpose. That's as far as I'm comfortable in saying.
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I don't know what IWM's direction or limitations are for the Battletech line, but I'd like to see IWM offer what CGL doesn't. So, altenate variants or configurations of popular designs; new mechs/vehicles that aren't or won't be sold by CGL. I guess I don't understand why IWM will sell a metal Archer ARC-2R for $19.00 (not including base) when someone can buy a lance of 4 mechs, including an ARC-2R Archer for roughly the same price. Now, if the IWM version was a variant like an ARC-2S, ARC-5S or something, I would think it would be just as popular if not more so. But perhaps I'm just really mistaken about that.
This is exactly how I feel. I see absolutely no reason to buy that metal ARC-2R. I would like to buy some tanks and aerospace fighters that haven't ever been made. I would like some of the few remaining WarShips. Or battle armor. I feel like the age of metal minis is coming to a close. That makes me a bit sad, but it is what it is.
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Couple of things.
Production of plastic minis takes tens of thousands of dollars upfront. The cost is in getting the metal moulding blanks engraved, and in the use of high-temp high-pressure plastic injection machines. Once you've put that money in up front, actual cost of production (material and labor) is low, so it makes sense to produce plastic minis in large (thousands or more) quantities to recover the cost at a reasonable price. The upside is large quantities and lower unit price; the downside is massive upfront costs, and inflexibility.
Metal minis have to have masters made, then silicide moulds prepared - manual, therefore time-consuming and labor expensive (need the right skills). But we're talking more like a thousand up front per mini. Casting also takes skilled labor and time, and metal is expensive these days. Also the moulds wear out with too much use, and have to be remade. So while the setup cost is smaller, the production cost per unit is higher. The ability to make modifications though is much increased. So the upside is flexibility and lower up-front investment; the downside is unit expense, and lower quantity production.
The other flip side of metal minis is that IWM only has so many hands, and so much floorspace. While in theory we could be fan-funding dozens of all-new minis every year, that bites into the labour and equipment pool they have to produce other BT minis.
That said, IWM has supported BattleTech minis for decades as a labour of love. We're hardly their major customer - they make much more producing minis for other companies. And they're prepared to keep making minis as long as the moulds last - even minis selling less than 6 units per year. I'm sure IWM and CGL talk, and balance each side's respective needs in their business relationship. I don't want IWM burning out on BT. It obviously makes sense to them to produce the minis available in plastic, to make them available individually, or outside the major investment of plastic production runs, and supports the hobby.
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You said nothing I haven't heard over and over and over. You talk about molds as if 3D printers aren't common, and capable of producing nearly perfect minis. The future is not mold making. It is sale of STLs to people with their own 3D printers.
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If 3D printers produced "almost perfect minis", IWM wouldn't have had the problems they had with the new Catapult mould.
And selling STLs lasts until someone puts the models free online, without holding rights to do so.
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IWM is no stranger to weird decisions. Just looking at all the rocket launcher variants of the Phoenix designs should say it all.
I think there is still room for metal minis in our future, but it is going to take more startegic planning. And unfortunately the community is not very picky about the quality of BattleTech miniatures. That means the premium versions of metal often fall to the wayside for cheaper plastics with collapsed parts, warping, awkward mold lines, glue squeeze out, etc. IWM will need to think about how to approach the future. They may be doing us a solid by continuing the line, but it is still worth pursuing.
Also, I'm a real odd man out because I still favor greens over 3D printed masters. I mean, the Darksword line, which IWM presses, is incredible.
I do wonder what will happen with 3D printing in the future. I can see it continuing, but I can also see it going the way of home brewing beer where the industry contracts dramatically as tastes and free time changes. Not that that is something to bet on.
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I do wonder what will happen with 3D printing in the future. I can see it continuing, but I can also see if going the way of home brewing beer where the industry contracts dramatically as tastes and free time changes. Not that that is something to bet on.
Me too. There's barriers to 3D printing at the moment - the time & learning curve involved in getting competent, the mess & hazardous chemicals in resin printing, and some cost, although for the harder core hobbyists not so much that.
There was a thing called Siocast, which offered a path between the hobbyist and the small mini company, which I watched closely. But it proved more complex and less reliable than intended. Anyone know where that is at, at the moment?
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There was a thing called Siocast, which offered a path between the hobbyist and the small mini company, which I watched closely. But it proved more complex and less reliable than intended. Anyone know where that is at, at the moment?
Its gotten out to some manufacturers, Monster Fight Club uses it to make the Premium BattleTech minis, but is still too expensive for most companies to consider an alternative to traditional injection molds.
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Well, all the Wave 1 Clan Invasion packs are fairly hard to find at this point.
That's happened before, I think they're just between orders. I'll wait six-to-nine months before I declare them OOP
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Wasn't calling them out of print, just saying that there's a demand for Archers and Riflemen that isn't easy to meet just by buying the plastic packs.
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I love IWM. I'm so thankful that they've been so consistent and supportive of the Battletech line, especially during the dark years where I personally felt that IWM was keeping the game afloat.
IWM has the capability to make something special for Battletech which can be showcased to a growing fan base. But this latest release is really highlighting a disconnect between what the market wants and what IWM is producing. New players aren't going to want to buy a single mini of the same one they can get for 25%/33% of the price from CGL. I don't understand that part.
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I recently started building an IWM metal Warhammer and it is actually nicer than the plastic one from the lance pack. The plastic Warhammer has that weird mold issue where the torso is lurched to one side like it's doing a shoulder shrug. It also has very long legs that make it a bit tall for it's weight/class. The metal one is a much better quality with appropriately scaled legs plus it has the benefit of being posable. In this case the metal quality is superior to the plastic. This won't matter to everyone when you factor in the price difference, but it's part of the appeal of having mechs in metal.
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Don't get me wrong, I love metal minis and I've specifically loved IWM metal minis for decades. The metal nu-Classics are mostly great upgrades over the plastics (the Battlemaster is hot trash). Despite them being nice upgrades over the plastics, I do agree with a lot of the sentiment here that they feel like a poor use of resources and limited production slots. I cannot believe that offering singles of mechs from Lance Packs at most of the cost of a box of 4/5 plastics is better for the market than offering things that aren't otherwise available at all. At least things like the Rifleman offer a new variant part, but then the Rifleman is ALSO competing with the stupid CGL Premium mini that has even less reason to exist.
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How many parts is the new Night Gyr mini? I'm wondering about pose options.
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I remember somewhere saying a Warship would come out every year? Are we lucky for a Warship this year??
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Oh that would be awesome!
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What is left to come out?
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What is left to come out?
The Clan Spaniel Collectible Box Set?
Starring the official Minis of Clan Spaniel in metal?
Would be a nice present to introduce them to the world.
You know, options...
TT
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What is left to come out?
Going off of memory, there's the Stefan Amaris, the Newgrange, the remaining 2765 ships, the Golden Century ships, and it's not a WarShip but I'm going to include the Castrum anyway. Probably missed something.
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Soyal!
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That's one of the 2765s, yep. :cool:
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I'd put money on the Stefan Amaris class.
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Any warship that would come out would be great. Some of the 2765s would be great to see. I would love the Enterprise IMHO.
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Did we get the Reunification War warships?