Author Topic: NFL 2023-2024: Hail to the Chefs... great googly moogly (Read 34741 times)

JadeHellbringer · « **on:** 15 February 2023, 17:18:01 »

(Title reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE

New league year has begun, the rest of the seven-layer dip is gone, time to get things going for the next season of zaniness and inanity.

So. Chiefs won it, Eagles made a great show of it (their defense needs to look in the mirror about that second half...), Tom Brady is finished, Aaron Rodgers is begging for attention, and Nathaniel Hackett is still holding on to a couple of timeouts just in case.

Let's do this thing, people. NFL 2023-24.

ThePW · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 February 2023, 17:42:03 »

What's his face has some court time to attend to before preseason.... No more mention about What's his face's toe (you know, the one who likes to roll his Porche in Ohio Backwoods country)...

monbvol · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 February 2023, 18:20:50 »

It will be interesting to see what Seattle can do with all their picks this upcoming draft and with Russ and Wagner off their cap they might even be able to make a few moves.

Sartris · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 February 2023, 18:22:38 »

Anybody want a Derek Carr?

monbvol · « **Reply #4 on:** 15 February 2023, 18:36:04 »

Hmmmm...

I mean the guy is actually a better QB than he seems to get credit for but Seattle already has Geno and I think they are going to try and make more of an effort to find out if Drew Locke is worth anything. Plus I see them going for a QB in the draft rather than free agency if they decide Geno is not the future(he probably isn't).

There's been cases made for him to go to the Panthers, Saints, and even Jets though. I can see any of those being reasonably likely as he seems to be an upgrade over what they have there.

Charlie 6 · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 February 2023, 19:13:08 »

Great title, Hellbie!

Scotty · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 February 2023, 20:54:15 »

A title on another forum I'm on is "Will no one rid me of these meddlesome Chiefs?" and I chuckle every time I see it

Jim1701 · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 February 2023, 23:49:30 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 15 February 2023, 17:18:01

(Title reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOZbG7ibEE

New league year has begun, the rest of the seven-layer dip is gone, time to get things going for the next season of zaniness and inanity.

So. Chiefs won it, Eagles made a great show of it (their defense needs to look in the mirror about that second half...), Tom Brady is finished, Aaron Rodgers is begging for attention, and Nathaniel Hackett is still holding on to a couple of timeouts just in case.

Let's do this thing, people. NFL 2023-24.

You sure that Aaron Rodgers isn't finished? Seems like he's at least baked. :D

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 February 2023, 03:17:08 »

You got that backslash at the start of the thread title, lol.

So yeah, how long before Rodgers retires? Any bets?

Triptych · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 February 2023, 06:00:59 »

Id like the Chiefs more if Mahomes' brother wasnt so damn annoying...

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 February 2023, 06:18:29 »

I didn't even know he had a brother; how is he annoying?

Sartris · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 February 2023, 08:31:26 »

He uses his proximity to fame to amplify his social media presence and is generally obnoxious about it

Basically what a lot of people are like at games and on Twitter with much more attention

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 February 2023, 10:35:27 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 16 February 2023, 06:18:29

I didn't even know he had a brother; how is he annoying?

He was banned from home games. It’s not how it’s how much.

DOC_Agren · « **Reply #13 on:** 16 February 2023, 19:21:14 »

Tagging in.. Not a Late Hit

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 February 2023, 12:31:14 »

Hellbie ends the old thread the day that Calvin Ridley applies for reinstatement. Well played sir, well played.

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 February 2023, 11:28:36 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 17 February 2023, 12:31:14

Hellbie ends the old thread the day that Calvin Ridley applies for reinstatement. Well played sir, well played.

Coincidental, but funny regardless. ;D

ThePW · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 February 2023, 21:40:58 »

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/27/commanders-cut-carson-wentz/#comments

Wentz wentz'ed.

I giggled at the comment mentioning Sachi Brown and Paul DePodesta (who is still there in CLE and nobody still knows what the hell he does in the front office to this day)

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #17 on:** 28 February 2023, 12:24:49 »

All these mock drafts have Brian Branch in the 1st round and it keeps making me do a double take to see if one of our moderators is going to be drafted....

Sartris · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 February 2023, 12:46:47 »

https://www.theonion.com/report-87-of-americans-unaware-they-have-been-chosen-1819577884

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #19 on:** 01 March 2023, 08:03:10 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 28 February 2023, 12:24:49

All these mock drafts have Brian Branch in the 1st round and it keeps making me do a double take to see if one of our moderators is going to be drafted....

For what it's worth, it throws me as well.

...hopefully it throws a general manager long enough for a bank error. I have a Mercenaries Kickstarter to fund. >:D

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #20 on:** 01 March 2023, 08:44:11 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 01 March 2023, 08:03:10

For what it's worth, it throws me as well.

...hopefully it throws a general manager long enough for a bank error. I have a Mercenaries Kickstarter to fund. >:D

It would be best if they wait until you are in the building and the GM just stares at you then looks at the scout, "This guy is a safety?"

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #21 on:** 02 March 2023, 14:42:38 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 01 March 2023, 08:44:11

It would be best if they wait until you are in the building and the GM just stares at you then looks at the scout, "This guy is a safety?"

I actually got asked twice by my high school football coach to play tight end, but since it would have meant leaving hockey... nope. Never even considered it.

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 March 2023, 19:50:34 »

Bears ‘making moves’ in terms of draft trades.

I put it in quotes cause they’ll find a way to [forum redacted] it up.

Triptych · « **Reply #23 on:** 11 March 2023, 07:46:49 »

Quote from: Kerfuffin(925) on 10 March 2023, 19:50:34

Bears ‘making moves’ in terms of draft trades.

I put it in quotes cause they’ll find a way to [forum redacted] it up.

Yeah, that feeling remains on the back of my mind too. :-[

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #24 on:** 12 March 2023, 08:25:48 »

I'll go the other direction- absolutely impressed with what the Bears did here. They're committed to Justin Fields, clearly- so no need to draft a QB early (with some rather good ones available, mind you!). So, if the players you want are going to be lower in the draft rankings anyway, why not trade down and see who you can fleece? Carolina definitely needs a new QB (safe to say the Baker Mayfield experiment is over? ;) ), and were willing to throw a wheelbarrow of goodies back for that pick- cool. Even if every pick comes up bust (and I'm betting against THAT), they got a fantastic WR for Fields to work with. Very good move for Chicago- and let's not forget that it was the late-game antics of Lovie Smith that awarded them this opportunity to begin with, which just makes me smile.

There's no sue things in the NFL draft, I admit. Want proof? This is the third time this century the first pick has been traded prior to the draft. The resulting players were Michael Vick (say what you will about him off the field, but he was a game-changing player), and Jared Goff (say what you... you know what, he's Jared Goff.) This could go pear-shaped for the Bears, who knows? But they're swinging for the fences for now, and I love it.

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #25 on:** 12 March 2023, 15:29:59 »

Spoken like a true not Bears fan. 8)

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 March 2023, 13:49:35 »

Quote from: Kerfuffin(925) on 12 March 2023, 15:29:59

Spoken like a true not Bears fan. 8)

Fair. Let me ask you this then.

What should the Bears have done, then? First overall pick, what should they have done with that pick?

To me, the options are:

1) Draft a QB. This essentially says that the Justin Fields experiment is a failure and they're starting over- even if it's not meant that way, it's how it would come across to any observer, Fields included.

2) Draft at a different position. QBs are the meat of this draft, and any other position player is probably not going until after the top... call it five? In which case, using the #1 pick to take a #6 player means you could have traded down and gotten more out of that pick, and didn't.

3) Trade down, let someone else grab the QB you didn't want/need anyway, reap the rewards of their insistence.

I don't know what the Bears' draft will look like, and I doubt even after the draft ends we'll have a real picture of how well they did for a few years, until those players have had enough time to sink or swim. But based on what they got out of this, as of today at least, this looks like an absolute win for them- possibly for the Panthers as well, depending on how well they do at developing their next QB (Stroud?).

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #27 on:** 13 March 2023, 15:45:54 »

I think this is a great trade for the Bears. The receivers in this class appear weaker than last year and with the focus needed to be on evaluating Fields, Moore should give him a capable WR to do that. Strengthen the line and while the offense may not be a top-10, it should be capable to see if Fields is the future or he's just the latest version of Tim Tebow.

Next year, they have 2 number ones. If Fields works out, great, they can add two premium players. If not, they can start the QB cycle over again and their rookie won't be crippled by a bare-cupboard offense.

Kerfuffin(925) · « **Reply #28 on:** 13 March 2023, 16:01:25 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 13 March 2023, 13:49:35

Fair. Let me ask you this then.

What should the Bears have done, then? First overall pick, what should they have done with that pick?

To me, the options are:

1) Draft a QB. This essentially says that the Justin Fields experiment is a failure and they're starting over- even if it's not meant that way, it's how it would come across to any observer, Fields included.

2) Draft at a different position. QBs are the meat of this draft, and any other position player is probably not going until after the top... call it five? In which case, using the #1 pick to take a #6 player means you could have traded down and gotten more out of that pick, and didn't.

3) Trade down, let someone else grab the QB you didn't want/need anyway, reap the rewards of their insistence.

I don't know what the Bears' draft will look like, and I doubt even after the draft ends we'll have a real picture of how well they did for a few years, until those players have had enough time to sink or swim. But based on what they got out of this, as of today at least, this looks like an absolute win for them- possibly for the Panthers as well, depending on how well they do at developing their next QB (Stroud?).

My comment was more towards being optimistic rather than anything they should have done differently.

I don’t know enough about draft calculus to say one way or another.
But I know enough about the Bears that they will make the wrong choice nearly every single time, and never to actually get excited about the things they do.

Sartris · « **Reply #29 on:** 13 March 2023, 16:38:25 »

sounds like it's past time to quit that narcotic