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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #30 on: 30 November 2015, 15:01:57 »
Not only is Ep1 still up, it hasnt aired on TV yet
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« Reply #31 on: 30 November 2015, 19:33:02 »
Why not?

It created a context, with how earthers can get "space sickness" and longing for terra firma.

Any show that try to translate literally from book to the small screen is doomed to be a disaster.
I felt it was fitting, it fleshed out Holden more from the get-go.
 
But if you expect a 1-to-1 translation of the books into TV, you should stop watching, because the show will disappoint you then.  It is it's own creation, and will take its own paths and solutions even if it ends up at the same place. That is a given necessity of the medium.

1-1 translation doesn't work, I agree. I have no problem with the early introduction of Avasarala, as it will help everything blend together over the long run, given the role she has to play. Nor did it bother me to show rather than tell the story of Miller chucking the guy in the airlock.

I just feel that making Holden 2nd officer, then XO, and soon to be Captain, doesn't really add anything. It was a strange narrative choice to make when there will be lots that gets left on the cutting room floor.
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« Reply #32 on: 16 December 2015, 12:03:56 »
Episodes 3 and 4 are up; hot damn!

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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #33 on: 16 December 2015, 12:22:42 »
1-1 translation doesn't work, I agree. I have no problem with the early introduction of Avasarala, as it will help everything blend together over the long run, given the role she has to play. Nor did it bother me to show rather than tell the story of Miller chucking the guy in the airlock.

I just feel that making Holden 2nd officer, then XO, and soon to be Captain, doesn't really add anything. It was a strange narrative choice to make when there will be lots that gets left on the cutting room floor.

Maybe so, but I took it as an emphasis point about Holden's really not wanting responsibility, since that's a theme of his throughout the first couple of books. It's more pointed that a 'no-nothing' crewer suddenly finds himself captain and major rabble rouser in a short amount of time.

I'm only just finishing Caliban's War now, and while the early appearance of Avasarala (love that name) was jarring, it made total sense...though I felt she came off as pretty racist in the show, and not really as such in the book.

I'm hoping the physical differences shown between the Belters and others are CGI, because holy cow do they look emaciated.
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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #34 on: 16 December 2015, 15:18:31 »
I want Avarasala to swear. I've been waiting for it but I don't think it's going to happen much.

Saw Episode 3 and I think they're doing well. I still don't buy the actor that plays Holden as Holden... but I think this could be a hit.

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« Reply #35 on: 16 December 2015, 17:11:35 »
I'm hoping the physical differences shown between the Belters and others are CGI, because holy cow do they look emaciated.

I think there's been some smart casting in terms of body types, and some CG, and some camera trickery.  There's one shot of Miller in episode 2 or 3 where he looked elongated that impressed me no end.

In terms of detail bits like that, my only complaints are that the Martians look too much like Terrans, when they should be closer to Belters, and Naomi fits in too well with the rest of the main cast even though she's a Belter and the others are Terran or Martian.  But those are very minor complaints.  Overall I'm hugely impressed with the show and so glad it's turned out as well as it has.
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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #36 on: 16 December 2015, 17:17:12 »
The pacing definitely picks up in episodes 3/4.  I'm enjoying it so far and am trying to fight off going back and reading the books till after the seasons over.


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« Reply #37 on: 16 December 2015, 18:14:36 »
It's intensified my desire for Nemesis Games.

And to reread the first four.
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« Reply #38 on: 16 December 2015, 19:27:41 »
The ads have crashed my player twice now... I'm thinking I'm done with their website.  Maybe I'll wait for DVD...

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« Reply #39 on: 18 December 2015, 01:30:39 »
I guess I will wait for it on Netflix

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« Reply #40 on: 18 December 2015, 01:54:03 »
I guess I will wait for it on Netflix
do you have difficulties watching it on their site?
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« Reply #41 on: 18 December 2015, 05:20:09 »
I know I did. I'll wait for it to hit Hulu or Netflix myself
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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #42 on: 18 December 2015, 10:02:54 »
Try Ublock Origin for your browsers. I watched it on the Canadian Space channel, for any fellow canucks out there.


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« Reply #43 on: 18 December 2015, 15:58:56 »
Two thumbs up for the first four episodes.

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« Reply #44 on: 19 December 2015, 07:59:15 »
I was able to watch the rest of episode two on broadcast TV last night.  While the plot and characters are interesting, the physics is driving me nuts.  They spend all that money on zero-g and rotating reference frame special effects, yet insist on the high-g nonsense (the drugs, and much higher maneuvering gs than required).  It's almost like the writers got lazy and are using bad physics to generate crises.  From what I've seen, there's plenty of plot to be had without bad physics or technology (don't even get me started on the vac suits that can't connect to the oxygen tanks on the life boat, or that apparently weren't op-checked before being put on).  Even Battletech and its magical fusion rockets doesn't subject people to 30 gs.

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« Reply #45 on: 25 December 2015, 02:04:16 »
My biggest complaint about the series compared to books is how they've made Amos an unthinking sociopath. He's loyal to Naomi like the books but there's no loyalty to anyone else. Stating that the only reason he doesn't kill Holden on the shuttle (when repairing the antenna) is because it would upset Naomi exemplifies it. The funny, good natured engineer that has questionable morals is gone, this person is a thug.

The protectiveness he feels for his fellow survivors is missing, in episode 3 he was willing to use Alex as a human shield while choking him. I don't know why but this bugs me far more than any other changes they've made so far.
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« Reply #46 on: 25 December 2015, 02:41:57 »
I quite like that the Cant's survivors aren't a tight-knit unit at this point.  It gives Naomi, Alex and Amos something to do in the plot at a point in the novel where they weren't really characters yet, and I'm sure Amos will be closer to his book character later in the show.
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« Reply #47 on: 19 January 2016, 20:16:30 »
Episodes 5 and 6 are now available online. Really starting to etch into the shell of this nugget; curious to see how much more there is to reveal. I think they are pacing it really well.

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« Reply #48 on: 19 January 2016, 20:36:53 »
At this point is seems like they're not going to finish adapting Leviathan Wakes before the end of series 1, which is interesting.
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« Reply #49 on: 19 January 2016, 21:34:42 »
Episodes 5 and 6 are now available online. Really starting to etch into the shell of this nugget; curious to see how much more there is to reveal. I think they are pacing it really well.
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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #50 on: 25 January 2016, 14:56:13 »
Episode 7, "Windmills" is online, and Episode 8 will be available tomorrow night.

Interesting interaction between Chrisjen and Holden's mother. Also..."Donkey Balls," that is all.

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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #51 on: 28 January 2016, 13:26:53 »
Episode 8, "Salvage is now online.

Well, you found Holden and Julie...now what?

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« Reply #52 on: 28 January 2016, 16:43:06 »
Nice to see someone actually take the 'Nuke it from orbit' option.

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« Reply #53 on: 28 January 2016, 17:00:54 »
This week's episode was fantastic.  Even though I knew what was going to happen in the hotel I was still on edge the whole time.
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« Reply #54 on: 28 January 2016, 17:53:20 »
Oh, and apparently episodes 9 and 10 will air next week
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« Reply #55 on: 28 January 2016, 19:14:29 »
Oh, and apparently episodes 9 and 10 will air next week

Sweet, even given my reservations earlier about Amos (still have them) I am really enjoying this. It's an excellent adaption and I'm glad to see it on SyFy.
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Re: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse)
« Reply #56 on: 04 February 2016, 12:28:01 »
Woah, that was a heckuva season finale. Episodes 9 and 10 answered some questions, but, of course, left us with more. Next season airs in 2017. *sigh*

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« Reply #57 on: 04 February 2016, 18:53:40 »
Am I the only one who thinks that ten episodes is hardly a season.

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« Reply #58 on: 04 February 2016, 21:14:34 »
Am I the only one who thinks that ten episodes is hardly a season.

I suspect they were trying to gauge response to see if they would greenlight another season. Even the "big 3" networks have started going toward shorter seasons. This lets them cram in more different shows per year.

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« Reply #59 on: 04 February 2016, 22:34:14 »
I suspect they were trying to gauge response to see if they would greenlight another season. Even the "big 3" networks have started going toward shorter seasons. This lets them cram in more different shows per year.

Yea, I have noticed this. But just saying that it is almost a joke, you just start getting into the show and then it is done for the year.

 

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