The *literally* Never-Seen

[beachhead1985]

Avalonmax-class freighters noted (not seen/no states) in Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentarus.

I do not have that product. Is that a "wet" frieghter? Or a historical mention of a spacefaring vessel?

[beachhead1985]

I don't see the Hessen Heavy Tank here. The MUL says it is from the Age of War and appears in XTRO Primitives 3, but has no other data on it at all.

Okay, from what I can tell; the Hessen was the even-more pimitive version of the KVN-2 Korvin, with the one from 3075 being the KVN-3. Sound right?

As such; not only is the Hessen a great candidate for this list; it would be super-easy to do.

[Wrangler]

I do not have that product. Is that a "wet" frieghter? Or a historical mention of a spacefaring vessel?

Wet Freighter.  It's naval support vehicle essentially.  I was surprised someone let them sneak in a name of new vehicle in one these book. I'm happy about and sad we didn't get stats!  I was just in campaign where we have alot naval support vehicles (aka big ships) being used on canon world. I'd love had this thing than same two template designs from Vehicle Annex (which i'm grateful for.)

[beachhead1985]

Wet Freighter.  It's naval support vehicle essentially.  I was surprised someone let them sneak in a name of new vehicle in one these book. I'm happy about and sad we didn't get stats!  I was just in campaign where we have alot naval support vehicles (aka big ships) being used on canon world. I'd love had this thing than same two template designs from Vehicle Annex (which i'm grateful for.)

Rock on man! Thanks for the contribution!

[Wrangler]

I'm not sure if was mentioned, in the novel ''Fortress of Lies'', Swordsworn were held up arctic shore defending mining fields, when Capellan Confederation was trying to take the world of St. Andre.  The Capellans conducted a Amphibious Assault using large naval support ships, which were used to dredge ocean.  I have get my book what they were being called, however, these ships had DropShip like drop chutes to drop the sand dredged.  In this assault, BattleMechs were dropped form these ship(s) to storm the shore as the SwordSworn fought them off. No class was named, but they were given informal name i'm trying remember.

[beachhead1985]

Okay; so the vessels in question were *dredges* being *used* in a naval assault role?

That's super-cool IMO and a key example of something that *should* be in the universe, somewhere, even if the use as an assault ship is novel.

[Colt Ward]

Yeah, basically it was 'we are not going to risk DS assaulting a prepared shore-based position, send in the hovercraft and converted wet navy ships!'  To me it was a effort at Ichon or Normandy invasions.

[beachhead1985]

Yeah, basically it was 'we are not going to risk DS assaulting a prepared shore-based position, send in the hovercraft and converted wet navy ships!'  To me it was a effort at Ichon or Normandy invasions.

Sounds pretty freakin cool to me.

Yeah; when you get a chance to grab the name for me, I will add it.

[Colt Ward]

I am not sure it is named, just described as Wrangler said.  Unfortunately its not a book that was released as a e-pub so its in a box somewhere . . . I want to find that one, b/c it was a earlier DA book I would not mind reading again.

[Wolf72]

there's a pic somewhere of a mech sized naval landing craft ... with the mechs hanging out like infantry.

[beachhead1985]

I am not sure it is named, just described as Wrangler said.  Unfortunately its not a book that was released as a e-pub so its in a box somewhere . . . I want to find that one, b/c it was a earlier DA book I would not mind reading again.

Added as a description

there's a pic somewhere of a mech sized naval landing craft ... with the mechs hanging out like infantry.

Got that one. One of my fav sourcebooks.

[Wrangler]

Sounds pretty freakin cool to me.

Yeah; when you get a chance to grab the name for me, I will add it.

Got the name. Their referred to as Bulkers. Pg. 271 Fortress of Lies. Used by the Capellans during the Battle of Archangel. Most planet had been taken by the time of the battle.

[beachhead1985]

Got the name. Their referred to as Bulkers. Pg. 271 Fortress of Lies. Used by the Capellans during the Battle of Archangel. Most planet had been taken by the time of the battle.

Awesome! Thanks!

[HyperionCormyr]

Would it possible to have the initial post alphabetized?

[Colt Ward]

I see the latest were not added so . . .

White Raven
Goliath C
Griffin C

[Sartris]

Would it possible to have the initial post alphabetized?

beachhead, feel free to copy/paste this into the first post if you like

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"Large and Small Mech Landing Craft" From Liberation of Terra II.
"Project Trojan" HDHB --- Stealth Dropship
"Zoomer" Elemental transport sled from Wolf Pack
15-ton GS-54 Guard Quad SecurityMech
80-ton Lugger battlefield salvage ’Mech
90-ton King-class CargoMech
90-ton St. Florian
Air Car (probably two versions; Hover and VTOL)  (MW1E)
Aquatic Clan Exoskeleton; Elemental precursor
Atlantis Arcology---on atreus, 10kph cruising (TacOps)
Avalonmax-class freighters---Touring the Stars: Rigil Kentarus.
Awesome AWS-11H Triple HPPC from HB: HM
Baby Sylvester Dropship
Barghest Gray---Major Gray of 20th Aucturan, during the JF Incursion has the Barghests under her command modified by swapping the ER LLs for Clan Gauss Rifles.
Bauer Enterprises Heavy LAM which lost out to the Phoenix Hawk LAM
Brookes Incorporated three-man digging/drilling machine (2940)
Bulker Sea-Going Dredge---Mentioned in Fortress of lies; capable of deploying mechs in amphibious assaults through the chutes for the spoil(Right term?) Dross?
Cameroon (Ice Hellion --> forerunner of the Icestorm)
Carrack Carrier Variant---1st SW
Cherrypicker Agromech (later GDL book)
Chimera Prototype ASF
CI-117 APC---Cyclops Industries Product, HB:HS Cyclops Industries profile
Clan APC Sub
Clan Behemoth DS from TRO 3057---ER Lasers
Clan Rhino BA (Gnome predecessor)
Clinoa-Class Frigate (Wet Naval Escort for the Meabh)
Clipper-Class Cargo-carrying jumpship. Free Flight Limited Project/product
Coanda PSC---Skye Pleasure Craft Sport Racing WiGE (Techmanual)
Colt Conv Fighter (SRM)
Comitatus---JS (Freighter and Downgraded Cargo Variants)
Command Van  (MW1E)
Crusader; SLDF Jumping version (the same as had the Hawk Missile Systems, but otherwise similar to the 3L)
Cyclops I---Wolf's Dragoon's space station; drydocks for jumpships and dropships, recharge batteries.
Cyclops Mastodon Hover Transport---"Armor and Infantry" Transport in development in 3067 with AP Weapons and "lighter-than-normal" Armour (Techmanual)
Daemon (SLDF Prototype)
Daemon---Norse Storm mech intended to replace the Spector in production.
Dagda Mobile Atolls
Delavan-class Cruiser build by the Federated Suns---HBHD
Delta---Early prototype Protomech used in action by the Smoke Jaguares in limited numbers, Mentioned on pg 26, Twilight of the Clans Campaign Book.
Deuce-and-a-Half (Davion "Half-tracked" version of the Bulldog or a similar vehicle)
Dropship Crawler (Mobile structure example)
Dropshuttle Smallcraft from Objectives: Lyran Alliance
DroST I---Implied Dropshuttle-bay-capable 5000t variant of the DroST
Durandel Destroyer---FM:FS
Dust Rat---Wolf's Dragoon's 6-wheeled recon car from Wolf Pack
Erinyes (WOB Super Weapon with Heavy Mass driver, based on a newgrange)
Evironmentally-specialized pre-Elemental BA
Falcon Hovertank (CityTech 1E)
Falcon's Roost Orbital Complex
Fire Moth Infantry carrier
Florence AmbulanceMech
flying airbase (Mobile structure example)
Fox (Sea Fox/Diamond Shark)
Free-Flight Ltd Orbital Dry dock from Objectives: Free World's League
Fusion-Powered Aquamech (Mentioned in Ghost Wars TRO)
GHR-1X Ghost Hunter---failed, boondogles-esc prototype of the Grasshopper, possibly with flawed-CLPS/NSS or other stealth system
GHR-4R Grasshopper---From the BC story "A soldier's priviledge" and recontructed here https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=55136.msg1269114 from data in the story
GM MuckRaker
Graf-Tengu Air Transport from Objectives: DC
Grand Crusader II Omnimech---Abandoned in favour of the Celestial series.
Gray Monday BA (unidentified BA used in the Gray Monday attacks)
Ground Car  (MW1E)
Gulf Breeze "Capital Station" 930,000T; 5x Wheelers, from Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, P.12
Haepheastus-class station
Heavy Transport B1  (MW1E)
Heavy Weapons Carriers (better, fusion-versions of the above HTP: Glengarry) LRM, SRM, AC Laser variants
Hector--- DS 1800, test bed for M2 Caspar Drone
Herdsman AgroMech mentioned in TRO: 3075.
Hermes and Hermes II---Version with vehicle flamers as an early holdover or a field modification, in order to come in line with fluff descriptions
Hermes II HER-2K 'Hermes III'---Mentioned advanced-tech predecessor of the HER-4K; 2x ERLL, Flamer, DHS
Hermes II---Illegal CT AC and Arm-Mounted AC Prototypes
Hessen Tank--CC, Mentioned in XTRO III, Korvin Precursor.
hood class cruiser (Wet-Navy Cruiser mentioned in gameplay examples in Combat Equipment)
Hover Scout (RS V5: Vehicles)
Hover Weapons carriers (HWC-A from RS: Vehicles and MUL) LRM, SRM, RL, Rifle and AC Variants, 25T
Hughes-class mobile yard station
Hunter Wheeled Assault Tank; 20T, PPC, Vox 130 Fusion, 129.6kph---TCI Shadowhawk/Scorpion model kit
Hurricane Air/Hover car---Cyclops Industries product, HB:HS Cyclops Industries profile
Hussar MLs and Armour variant---TRO3050R. Drops the LL for 2xML and more armour. Possibly also an electronics system.
Ice Ships; ala the "Ryan Cartel"
Jarvis Prototype mini-sub
Jeep  (MW1E)
Jenny ASF trainer (Original House Stiener SB, under Nagelring entry)
Jet Sled  (MW1E)
Jonah Mini-Sub (Space Version)
Khirgiz; earlier version with SFE, possibly non-omni.
League DS (GDL Books)
Leopard, Union, Overlord and Excalibur Passenger/Cargo Conversions---Various novels, especially MWDA
LES HALLES REST AND REFIT STATION from Objectives: Free World's League
Light wheeled weapons carriers (Some attribution in fiction, particularly Decision at Thunder Rift) 20-40 tons, PPC, Laser, Missile, AC, Rifle, Thumper, RL
LT-MOB-50 Rail Mobile Longtom
M1 Drone
M10 Drone
M11 Drone
M2 Drone
M6 Drone
M7 and M8 drone stations?
Manazuru Conventional Aircraft from Objectives: DC
Marauder II Ballistic Weapons Variant---TRO 3050, takes of advantage of useless CASE in wrong torso.
MicroTitan - Ultralight digging Mech
Minsk (Ghost Bear)
Mobile HPG
Mobile Mining Refinery MMR (Support Vehicle, Drone/Automated Control optional, from the new beginner's set included fiction: Golden Rule)
Monza Light Cruise Liner---Federated-Boeing Interstellar (Techmanual)
Mosquito Radar Plane '52-Model (Techmanual)
NETC Skyhook heavylift VTOL (Techmanual)
Nova Luthien---SMR-4, 3+ ERML?
Ogotai---First Diamond Shark ASF 2874
Okinawa---Balanced-armour first production version---TRO:3057
Ostroc OstWar Arms Variant---Simply an Ostroc which visually matches the original art due to fitting of Earlier OstWar arms. May or may not have two arm-mounted SRM4s, vs 1 in the Torso.
Pallas---Long lost assault mech ~90-95t, mentioned as part of a Frankenmech in Redemption and Malice
Peregrine Warship
PPC-Armed Locust---attributed in first printing of TRO 3025; a Davion-Variant that falls down when it fires.
Prime Mover (MW1E)
Qasar---First Novacat ASF 2905
RanchHand AgroMech in “Callie’s Call”
redhawk gunship (mentioned in the Proliferation Cycle)
Reudel Conv Fighter (Hearts of Chaos)
RiotMech - (Appeared in MWDA Novel Fortress of Lies)
Rising Star (SLDF Prototype)
Scout DS (GDL Books)
Skimmer  (MW1E)
SLDF bullet-proof uniform
SLDF subterranean tank
Slither---Another mech mentioned only in Redemption and Malice; Rim Worlds, so it seems.
Sovereign class cruiser (depicted in Tac Ops, Pg161, 245)
SpaceStream Smallcraft from Objectives: Lyran Alliance
Spector Christian---From Chaos Irregulars stories
Spectre Clan Survielance Plane---Look Down Radar Write-up
Speeder  (MW1E)
Star League Floating Islands---GM Skycity-3000, Lyran "Skycity" (TacOps)
StarCorps Muskrat-379---SupVee Aircraft, Amphibious, prop-driven, STOL, Water-tanker firefighting aircraft with look-down radar, hi-res cameras and Thermal. B-Model is optimized for passengers and camera equipment as a recreational parachuting aircraft (Techmanual)
StarCorps Smoke Ultralight Trike SupVee Aircraft (Techmanual)
Stealth Karnov
Storm Giant (Scylla Predecessor)
super-freighter (Mobile structure example)
suvurov ICE tank
Terraforming ships---may have a mechanical part in the process, may just be a designated transport.
Thug AC, At least 1 SRM-4, at least 1 PPC swapped for an autocannon. Bush Wars art. Makes sense as a SW-mod.
Tigershark fighter
tigershrike ICE Hover
Trailblazer Exploration ship---Star League sourcebook, p. 60, Crew: 479, HPG equipped, Had three jump drives, all linked to a central control computer through a single circuit junction. Launched 2655 to map and survey unexplored star systems. Major Boondoggle bait right there.
Traveler-class aerodyne mail shuttle, in use in the FWL in 2466, predating the HPG.  It's stated to have a crew capacity of 2-3, and can be flown by a single pilot.
UL-14 Bulldozer---TRO:VA(R) p. 34
Una Jumpship
Valiant Regal sportster; Handbook: House Davion pg 175
Venturer WS Word of blake prototype destroyed over loyalty by sabotage
Venusian Solar Shade
Vision Quest (Nova Cat)
Voss Conv Fighter (Hearts of Chaos)
Wakusei no Mochiagerumono Conventional Aircraft from Objectives: DC
Wheel Space Station of the Wheel System
Wheeled Scout (RS V5: Vehicles)
Yangtze Air Transport From Tengo Aerospace in Objectives: CC
'Zilla---Defiance-built demolition mech competitor

apocryphal stuff

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"The Monster" Frankenmech---Battletechnology 13
Achilles ACH-09S---Battletechnology 18
Alliance ALI-1A---Battletechnology 7
Ambassador MBSDR-1---StarDrive V1N1
Apollo APL-1J---StarDrive V1N1
Ariane ARN-E1---StarDate V3N3
Athena FDC Carrier---Battletechnology 8
Avalon Arms Support System---Battletechnology The Early Years
Avatar AVT-7A---Battletechnology 21
Badger-Class medium tank (obsolete basis for SP Sniper, using the same SLDI TRK/5(B) Chassis)---Battletechnology 0204
Bandicoot KGR-BCT---Battletechnology 19
Behemoth BMH-1T "belfry"---Battletechnology 11
Boomer BMR-100---Battletechnology 19
Brawler Mech---Battletechnology 13
BRN-1 Brian---Battletechnology 13
Bushido BSD-7K---Battletechnology 18
Cavalier Class Dropship---StarDate V3N3
Centurion Maximus CNT-9---Battletechnology 15
Cerberus CBR-6S ASF---Battletechnology 10
CGR-1A2 Charger-KH---Battletechnology 13
Chimera Ch-1M "perfected quad mech"---Battletechnology The Early Years
Clytemnestra CTP-005---Battletechnology 20
Cobra FrankenMech---Battletechnology The Lost Issues
Common Chassis vehicles 100, 75 ton tracked and 50 ton Hover---Battletechnology 19
Cyclone F-95---StarDate V3N3
Dervish DV-7S---Battletechnology 11
Dwarf Wombat KGY-WBT---Battletechnology 19
Fisher FSH-9R Recon/Spec-Ops carrier mech---Battletechnology The Early Years
Foxfire FXR-4R---StarDrive V1N1
Frankenstein`s Monster FrankenMech---Battletechnology 20
Gadfly GDF-L4---StarDate V3N3
Goshawk VTOL Gunship---Battletechnology 9
Gremlin Armoured car---StarDate V3N4
Gryphon Scout Hover Tank---Battletechnology 19
Guardian---Battletechnology 13
Guppy Scout Submarine GU-2P---Battletechnology 12
Harrier Hovertank---Battletechnology 0202
Hedgehog---Also now attributed as the first Tripod in other sources. DO IT!
Huntress artillery mech (it`s got tracks, so I think TPTB would be into it for the MWDA connection there)---Battletechnology 14
Interloper Urban Scout URS-12A---Battletechnology 16
Iroquois Transport VTOL---Battletechnology 9
Javelin/Enforcer/Wolverine FrankenMech---Battletechnology The Early Years
Joey KGR-000---Battletechnology 19
Junior JNR-7P---StarDrive V1N1
Kangaroo KGR-00---Battletechnology 19
Ki-Rin VTOL Gunship---Battletechnology 9
Kookaburra KBA-01---Battletechnology 19
Leviathan LVN-1X "Belfry" A barely mobile wheeled tank---Battletechnology 11
Life-Saver Medivac VTOL---Battletechnology 9
Lumberer FrankenMech---Battletechnology The Lost Issues
Lynx LYN-5X (Basically looks like a shadowhawk variant)----Battletechnology 9
Malleus MLS-1A---Battletechnology 11
Mantis LAM---Battletechnology 15
Mauler Cititank---Battletechnology 16
Minnow Sub MNO-5W---Battletechnology 12
Mite MTE-12C---StarDate V3N6
Munin MN-1B LAM---Battletechnology 10
New Gladiator FrankenMech---Battletechnology The Lost Issues
Omega 137-A---Battletechnology 14
Original Titan(s)---Battletechnology 17, 11
Quicksilver Hoverscout---StarDate V3N4
Rampage RMP-1C---Battletechnology 16
Rattlesnake JR7-31P (Jenner laserboat variant)---Battletechnology 21
Rhino RHN-10 Melee Quad mech---Battletechnology 12
Rifleman-K (Drops the AC/5s for two more Large Lasers, an SRM4 and 7 heatsinks----Battletechnology 9
Roo Scout RO-2A---Battletechnology 14
Royalty-Class Royal Yacht (Armed Jumpship Amaris Star/Lorelei's Hope)---Battletechnology 20
Sandman LAMs---Battletechnology The Early Years
Screaming Hawk---Battletechnology 7
Shadow Hawk Spy (Spec Ops Shadowhawk)---Battletechnology 21
Siren SL-23---StarDate V3N3
Sky Ranger High Schout Drone Carrier---Battletechnology 19
Skyhook 30ton Transport VTOL---Battletechnology 9
Slowpoke SLP-2U---StarDrive V1N1
Sniper ammo carrier---Battletechnology 0204
SP Sniper---Battletechnology 0204
Stiletto STL-7D---StarDrive V1N1
Striga Conventional Fighter STC-13---Battletechnology 12
Striped Bandicoot KGY-BCS---Battletechnology 19
SubUrbanMech---Battletechnology 18
Sylph SYH-A5 Hovertank---Battletechnology The Early Years
Templar TMPL-1R---Battletechnology 15
Traverse TR-11A---StarDate V3N3
Trooper FrankenMech---Battletechnology The Lost Issues
UrbanMech, Modified---Battletechnology 18
Ventilator VNT-1A---Battletechnology 15
Viking Hydrofoil---Battletechnology 0204
Wallaby KGR-WA---Battletechnology 19
Weasel WS3-L and Wild Weasel WS3-L2---Battletechnology 16
Whirlwind Hover Tank---Battletechnology 0202
Wildcat Aerotanker from Battletechnology 10
Wisp WS-2P---Battletechnology The Early Years
Wolfman FrankenMech---Battletechnology 0102
Wombat KGR-W0---Battletechnology 19
Wyvern VTOL Gunship---Battletechnology 9
Zaibatsu-Class Orbital manufacturing Facility---Battletechnology The Early Years


[beachhead1985]

Would it possible to have the initial post alphabetized?

Totally and good idea.

But I see since I initially saw this notification, Satris has already jumped on it. Well done, mate! Lemme take a look at it.

I see the latest were not added so . . .

White Raven
Goliath C
Griffin C

Those sound really cool! Where are they from? Recent book?

[Sartris]

Totally and good idea.
But I see since I initially saw this notification, Satris has already jumped on it. Well done, mate! Lemme take a look at it.

just give it the ole copy/paste into the first post if you like

Those sound really cool! Where are they from? Recent book?

Divided We Fall - it's a new novella by Pardoe that has clan wolf trying to bring the dragoons back into the fold on the eve of ilclan

[beachhead1985]

just give it the ole copy/paste into the first post if you like


Divided We Fall - it's a new novella by Pardoe that has clan wolf trying to bring the dragoons back into the fold on the eve of ilclan

Thanks! I just did a bit of editing on your work. Thank you again!

Oh man, I hope they get those barn doors closed in time! oh.......

[Sartris]

Yeah edit away I just stuck it in excel and did an alphabetical sort

[beachhead1985]

Yeah edit away I just stuck it in excel and did an alphabetical sort

I *thought* I recognized the signs! Excel alphabetizes in a very recognizable way.

[Chinless]

Just looking through the list and I think there may be a few errors.

Where does Wheel space station come from? I thought that was from BattleTechnology 0201 and thus should on the apocryphal list.

Also, there's a DropShuttle smallcraft listed from Objectives LA. Surely that’s the K1 Dropshuttle? The entry in O:LA p27 also truncates the names of various other smallcraft.

Free-Flight Ltd Orbital Dry dock from Objectives: Free World's League
LES HALLES REST AND REFIT STATION from Objectives: Free World's League
Venusian Solar Shade

These are likely unique stations so there is no real point including them or else you then need to list every single orbital facility.

Air Car (probably two versions; Hover and VTOL) (MW1E)
Ground Car (MW1E)
Jet Sled (MW1E)
Speeder (MW1E)
Hurricane Air/Hover car---Cyclops Industries product, HB:HS Cyclops Industries profile

While lacking RS, these have all since been converted to support vehicles in AToW p324

Rising Star (SLDF Prototype) – it wasn’t a prototype, it was merely “a ’Mech produced in low numbers  during the first Star League  and discontinued because it did not fare well.” TR3067 p92

SLDF bullet-proof uniform – has no place being on a list of units.

Chris

[Colt Ward]

Just looking through the list and I think there may be a few errors.

Where does Wheel space station come from? I thought that was from BattleTechnology 0201 and thus should on the apocryphal list.

Chris

Wheel station refers, IIRC, to one of the latest Touring the Stars- Broken Wheel.

[beachhead1985]

Just looking through the list and I think there may be a few errors.

Where does Wheel space station come from? I thought that was from BattleTechnology 0201 and thus should on the apocryphal list.

You may be right. Honestly I cannot recall.

Wheel station refers, IIRC, to one of the latest Touring the Stars- Broken Wheel.

I don't have that one, but the sarna page doesn't mention any stations. Do you mean the more recent (and wheeled-shaped) Gulf-Breeze-Class Stations from the product of the same name?

I didn't *see* any direct allusions to them having been called "Wheel" space stations in there, but I could have missed it. As is; I'd like to keep that one, pending more info because I love us having more stations.

Also, there's a DropShuttle smallcraft listed from Objectives LA. Surely that’s the K1 Dropshuttle? The entry in O:LA p27 also truncates the names of various other smallcraft.

You may be right there. I'll scratch that one.

Free-Flight Ltd Orbital Dry dock from Objectives: Free World's League
LES HALLES REST AND REFIT STATION from Objectives: Free World's League
Venusian Solar Shade

These are likely unique stations so there is no real point including them or else you then need to list every single orbital facility.

I actually have a different thread for that!

However, really; aside from the generic orbital factory constellations around such yards; wouldn't every one of the major yard/doc facilities be a custom build? But again; your point is well-made.

Air Car (probably two versions; Hover and VTOL) (MW1E)
Ground Car (MW1E)
Jet Sled (MW1E)
Speeder (MW1E)
Hurricane Air/Hover car---Cyclops Industries product, HB:HS Cyclops Industries profile

While lacking RS, these have all since been converted to support vehicles in AToW p324

So, like a lot of SupVees; we do need to see record sheets and even brief canon fluff write-ups on these then.

Rising Star (SLDF Prototype) – it wasn’t a prototype, it was merely “a ’Mech produced in low numbers  during the first Star League  and discontinued because it did not fare well.” TR3067 p92

I'll change that. I did not think they made any of the things.

SLDF bullet-proof uniform – has no place being on a list of units.

Chris

Eh, I'm cool with it. I'd be cool including any non-stated/fluffed weapons and equipment for mechwarrior/infantry as well.

[beachhead1985]

I see the latest were not added so . . .

White Raven
Goliath C
Griffin C

Updates, additions and subtractions made.

[five_corparty]

In the new Shrapnel, the Wyvern Mod in "Airs Above" is a Wyvern C, though it's not named as such in the text.

[truetanker]

Aren't the C models just Clan weapons on an IS body?

Such as Warhammer-6R C and Shadow Hawk-2H C...

So wouldn't it be just a mixtech with clan weapons?

Griffin-1N C
Goliath-1H C

TT

[beachhead1985]

In the new Shrapnel, the Wyvern Mod in "Airs Above" is a Wyvern C, though it's not named as such in the text.

Is it a custom then?

Aren't the C models just Clan weapons on an IS body?

Such as Warhammer-6R C and Shadow Hawk-2H C...

So wouldn't it be just a mixtech with clan weapons?

Griffin-1N C
Goliath-1H C

TT

That seems to be the case in some instances, but either way; they are series-produced items. Just not sure which version they are based on unless it is deliberately mentioned as such.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The original C models were just salvaged mechs that the Clans slapped a few clanspec weapons on and used for garrison duty during the invasion.  The first C mech that was actually a production model that I can think of was the Battlemaster.

[Colt Ward]

The original 'C's actually featured the IS model they were using and were underweight from converting 3025 classic designs.  We now have another generation that uses the latest IS equipment, packs on Clan weapons, and my re-armor them with Clan materials.  None are underweight

So its . . Longinus C, Orion C, Tempest C, Griffin C and Goliath C mostly out of one faction- none of which have official sheets.