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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread IV - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #480 on: 26 February 2024, 23:16:06 »
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« Reply #481 on: 28 February 2024, 12:11:40 »
Should the Hi-Scout Drone (NapFind) have CT0.015 based on the entry in TRO: 3039?
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread IV - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #482 on: 28 February 2024, 15:32:29 »
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Thanks! I will start running conversions through there before posting here. I didn't know they were still valid!

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« Reply #483 on: 03 March 2024, 13:14:26 »
Should the Hi-Scout Drone (NapFind) have CT0.015 based on the entry in TRO: 3039?

The smallest CT Alpha Strike currently cares about is 0.5

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« Reply #484 on: 04 March 2024, 10:58:38 »
Sorry, another drone question (trying to fix the entries in MegaMek).

PathTrak has the SRCH special, but neither the record sheet in RS: 3039 or the TRO 3039 entry list any equipment that should provide it. Since it's built as a support vehicle, it should have to have explicit searchlight equipment to get that special, correct?

http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1531/hi-scout-drone-pathtrak
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« Reply #485 on: 04 March 2024, 12:14:27 »
As it turns out, all vehicles receive SRCH. It’s a special treat

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« Reply #486 on: 04 March 2024, 13:48:19 »
As it turns out, all vehicles receive SRCH. It’s a special treat

That makes the bit in the Tech Manual about the handheld lights and support vees make a lot more sense! Thank you!
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« Reply #487 on: 04 March 2024, 22:32:17 »
I have erred. The Hi-Scout drones are support vehicles. Those do not automatically get SRCH. The ability has been removed from the PathTrak

Apologies for the confusion

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« Reply #488 on: 06 March 2024, 08:16:11 »
I'll forgive you this time.  :cheesy: Thanks for the clarification!
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« Reply #489 on: 06 March 2024, 23:21:52 »
Realized I forgot to supply page numbers for this....

Issue:
Tau Wraith is missing the LPRB and RCN abilities it should have from the Multi-Modal Cybernetic Eyes (Sensory Implants) listed on pg.207 of TRO: 3085 that describe a 2 Hex active-probe ability. Multi-Modal Sensory Implants grant LPRB and RCN per pg. 147 of Alpha Strike Commander's Edition.

Fix:
Add LPRB and RCN to Tau Wraith. Recalculate PV if necessary. The MUL already has the C3I ability from the Boosted Communications Implant.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread IV - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #490 on: 07 March 2024, 11:02:42 »
PAB-27 Exoskeleton

This appears to be the "Federated Suns (3067+)" (TO:AUE p. 130) armor according to AToW p. 293 and IO:AE p. 31. Adjust dates and sources accordingly.
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« Reply #491 on: 07 March 2024, 11:12:03 »
PAB-27 Exoskeleton

This appears to be the "Federated Suns (3067+)" (TO:AUE p. 130) armor according to AToW p. 293 and IO:AE p. 31. Adjust dates and sources accordingly.

There is a PAB-27 body armor, and a PAB-27 exoskeleton enhancement.  The exoskeleton enhancement came later.

M&M p42
"the company was able to take advantage of the Combat Training Center to field test a new exoskeleton enhancement to the PAB - 27, introducing it in time for infantry units to use it in defending New Syrtis from the Capellan invasion."

The MUL Federated Suns (3067+) is using the PAB-27 body armor, available in 3067.  The PAB-27 exoskeleton unit is for the enhancement menitoned above, which was attacked in June 3069, and thus the intro date for that unit.
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Left of Center blog - Nashira Campaign for A Game of Armored Combat, TP 3039 Vega Supplemental Record Sheets

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« Reply #492 on: 19 March 2024, 23:30:16 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5288/trinity-medium-battle-armor-ying-long-bc3-plasma-sqd4

Think there may be a problem with the name. The Ying Long with man-portable plasma rifle does not have battle armor C3.

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« Reply #493 on: 20 March 2024, 00:06:31 »
correct! fixed

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« Reply #494 on: 23 March 2024, 05:44:09 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/8493/elemental-battle-armor-ap-gauss-sqd5
This one is listed for Star League Smoke Jaguars for ilClan era, even though they are covered by IS Clan General list.
Judging by other Elemental configurations, it should be available to Scorpion Empire.

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« Reply #495 on: 23 March 2024, 11:01:13 »
that's a weird error. should indeed be scorpions

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« Reply #496 on: 23 March 2024, 11:23:58 »
Is it deliberate the Raven Alliance utilizes squad-4 Elementals?
Because they also get squad-5 Elementals via IS Clan General list.

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« Reply #497 on: 23 March 2024, 11:52:11 »
yes. the outworlds military contingent is largely separated from the ravens and don't use clan formations, but do utilize some clan equipment

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« Reply #498 on: 23 March 2024, 13:09:11 »
Duh, didn't think of that. Makes sense. Thanks!

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« Reply #499 on: 24 March 2024, 21:52:43 »
I've been looking over the mech lists in the Battle pf Tukkayid (3rd printing) and comparing it to Comstar's Clan Invasion entry in the MUL. Three Royal mechs appear in the mech lists but don't appear in the MUL.
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Shadow Hawk SHD-2hb
Griffin GRF-2N
Catapult CPLT-C1b

Should these be available to Comstar from the Early Succession War through to the Clan Invasion?

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« Reply #500 on: 24 March 2024, 22:02:41 »
yeah

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« Reply #501 on: 24 March 2024, 23:49:53 »
The ARC-9R Archer is listed as Standard tech level.  It should be Advanced due to having Extended LRMs.
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« Reply #502 on: 25 March 2024, 00:52:26 »
ELRMs become standard tech in 3083

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« Reply #503 on: 25 March 2024, 01:14:50 »
I thought they didn't become Standard until 3145.
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« Reply #504 on: 25 March 2024, 12:05:47 »
Von Luckner Heavy Tank VNL-K65W BV does not match BV in Rec. Guide ilClan Vol. 32. http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/9482/von-luckner-heavy-tank-vnl-k65w

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« Reply #505 on: 27 March 2024, 05:51:17 »
TRO3075 (p. 180) says of the Galahad GLH-2D:
"A handful survived in ComStar’s secret weapons cache, but until the arrival of the Clans the design essentially vanished from the battlefield."
Should the ComStar get GLH-2D available through Succession Wars? Currently the mech is noted as extinct.
And/or should the Clans still retain the GLH-2D in their secondline forces (beyond Early Succession Wars)? The sentence makes it seem they might have sort of reintroduced it to the Inner Sphere, though then again that might refer to the Clan Glass Spider (Galahad), or perhaps the ComStar utilizing the Galahad during the Battle of Tukayyid.
Battle of Tukayyid Supplemental does not list the Galahad in ComStar or Clan rosters though, i so perhaps that is a strike against the mech being available circa 3050.

On the Galahad GLH-1D, TRO Succession Wars (p. 84) notes pirates having used some in 3026, though apparently the last known one was retired by 3038. Though currently listed as extinct, perhaps the GLH-1D thus barely survived Late Succession Wars and might warrant "Unique" and Pirate availabilities for 3020-3049 time period?

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« Reply #506 on: 28 March 2024, 08:21:33 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1600/icarus-ii-icr-1s

The Icarus II ICR-1S is noted as surviving through the Succession Wars in militia units in TRO3075 p. 260.
Oddly, currently it appears the mech is entirely lacking Late Succession Wars and Clan Invasion availability in MUL, not even extinct.

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« Reply #507 on: 28 March 2024, 08:29:00 »
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/1600/icarus-ii-icr-1s

The Icarus II ICR-1S is noted as surviving through the Succession Wars in militia units in TRO3075 p. 260.
Oddly, currently it appears the mech is entirely lacking Late Succession Wars and Clan Invasion availability in MUL, not even extinct.

did not exist in sufficient numbers to be assigned to anyone. units that have gaps in availability are part of this group - there are not many. the ICR-1S is one of the few, but probably the most prominent example.

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« Reply #508 on: 28 March 2024, 08:57:18 »
I see. Thanks for the explanation, makes sense.

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« Reply #509 on: 28 March 2024, 14:48:45 »
Sorry if this is not the correct thread, but there is a mistake either in the Record Sheets 3150 or the MUL, about the Shogun C 2.
The RS says the BV value is 2914, but at MUL the value is 2029. I don't know the construction rules so don't know which one is correct, although I'm inclined to believe the RS one is the correct one, as it is a clan-tech mech, and both C and C 3 have similar values.