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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #570 on: 25 January 2025, 07:14:56 »
Old fluff mentions Battleships, which is why i brought it up.

Got a book reference for that? Trying to explore this was what led me to the Narukami fluff. I wasn't able to find anything else related to Combine battleships. I'm just curious now.

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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #571 on: 25 January 2025, 11:41:39 »
I can't remember the pages, but both the old Star League sourcebook and one of the Liberation of Terra books mention them, and both very specifically use the word "battleship". I could see it being a misuse of the word if it was just the earlier book (just like the infamous "hundreds of warships lost at Cholame" reference), but with them being in a much more recent book gives weight to them actually being battleships. Purchased/captured Monsoons seem most plausible to me(vessels that old would definitely be maintenance hogs, the Achilles' Heel of the DCN, so dumping them on Kerensky might have been a two-birds-one-stone situation for the Coordinator), but until they're confirmed somewhere, they're just that - unconfirmed.
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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #572 on: 25 January 2025, 14:53:59 »
What i remember in the passage was couple or three Combine Battleships defected to Kerensky(?) forces.   Perhaps it was suppose to be Warship, but I remember battleship.
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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #573 on: 25 January 2025, 17:49:56 »
Battlespace, TRO2750, and the old House Sourcebooks are off the top of my head good resources for old warship fluff.

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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #574 on: 26 January 2025, 07:16:59 »
Hey I found a reference. Liberation of Terra volume 1, page 115. I did a search for "combine battleships" in the PDF and landed a hit.

It's basically a paragraph talking about the SLDF beginning to experience defections of House troops to the SLDF after the Amaris Coup. Kerensky begins a press campaign for support. Thousands of AWOL House soldiers begin to show up at SLDF bases every week. The relevant sentence is just after that.

Quote: "A few nearly whole companies and battalions managed to defect,
as did numerous DropShips and even a pair of WarShips—both
Combine battleships."

On the next page it says Kerensky targeted some of the Combine's depots, seizing what it needed for war materials. The Coordinator publicly blasted Kerensky for doing this. But a persistent rumor is that it secretly happened with the Coordinator's blessing, and the same might be true of the 2 defecting warships.

So there ya go, and that's a pretty modern book and not one of the old ones.

Field Report 2765 DCMS has a good breakdown of the Combine warship fleet just prior to the Amaris Coup. No battleships are mentioned among the active fleet and it just specifically references Samarkand carriers as the core of each fleet and that the majority of the fleet's  hulls are destroyers or corvette classes with a few cruisers. Though within the book you do see a potential clue in a section labeled "Infrastructural Assessment". It says that the Combine has had a limited capacity to build and maintain warships. As a result after the Reunification War it was forced to mothball a number of its warships. But there are signs that the Combine is refurbishing a number of those warships. Due to security at those sites, details aren't known.

So some obscure BB class of Combine design we've never gotten the details on remains a possibility. Though sheer odds of probability at this point tell me we're most likely talking about hulls of Terran Hegemony/Star League origin, possibly dating back to the Reunification War, that the Combine stuffed into mothball reserves.

That makes a lot of sense to me, in part because I think it would be difficult to defect with a fully functioning and crewed warship that is part of the active DCA fleet. A couple of mothball hulls sitting in a repair yard somewhere and a partial crew (and corresponding, lesser security around it compared to an active warship), feels more realistic to me. Even if it happened with the Coordinator's quiet blessing.
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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #575 on: 26 January 2025, 07:55:44 »
I knew i wasn't crazy, my word search in the PDF didn't work for me.  Being in a newer publication, I'd hope it open a door for couple additional designs given how Large Aersospace is still touch subject with some players and rules being in questioned.

Warspite Class Warships never got stats from the Republic of the Sphere, aside from their Yardships, entire fleet seemed to have not been salvageable or they were forcibly forgotten.
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Re: Canon Warship List
« Reply #576 on: 27 January 2025, 21:15:31 »
Random thoughts.......

1.  Possibly it was a typo for the Samarkand Carrier since we know at least one ended up surviving & being w/ Clan Mongoose?

2.  Old SLDF model like the Monsoon (or copies of the Dreadnought) mentioned up thread, after all, they had decommissioned a few classes by that point.

3.  Finally, maybe for something big but not BS class could be some of the Aegis HC that the TH had gifted each nation a couple decades earlier.

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