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The 75th Field Artillery Regiment was an SLDF Royal Regiment that carried the name- and honors of the old United States Army 75th FA; unlike most Royal Regiments, the 75th was not stationed as a whole Regiment in one garrison, but instead was attached by battalions to other SLDF Royal- or Regular units as support. 2nd Battalion, the 'Thunder Lizards', primarily operated in District One of the FedSuns Military Region, and for much of their time in the Suns were attached to the 60th Royal Battlemech Division on Firgrove. Unlike the 60th Royals, the Thunder Lizards survived the Periphery Uprising relatively-intact, and did yeomans' work during the Rim Worlds Campaign- and distinguished themselves during Operation CHIEFTAIN, where their forces played a pivotal role in the capture of a RWA division that had occupied Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The Thunder Lizards were one of the SLDF units that remained in the Inner Sphere after Kerensky's Exodus-, and one of the only Royal units to do so; the remainder of the 75th Field Artillery went with Kerensky (and eventually became part of the nascent Clan Ghost Bear-).

The Thunder Lizards (circa the beginning of the New Vandenburg Uprising-) were an over-strength battalion comprised of three three-Lance Primary Firing-Batteries, a three-Lance combined Air-Defense- and Reserve Battery (one Lance of-which was rumored to be a nuclear-capable Special Weapons Lance), and a Headquarters Battery including Logistics- and Technical personnel, a Hover-Mechanized demi-Company of infantry equipped with TAGs, and a Company-sized unit of nominal Jump-infantry for security.

Primary Firing-Batteries (designated 'A', 'B', and 'C')
--Three Lances each; each Lance consists of: One Mongoose-66b, one Griffin-2N, two Helepolis-3H.

Reserve/AD Battery (designated 'D')
--One Lance Rifleman-3N
--One Lance Pollux ADA-Tanks
--One Lance Chaparral Artillery-Missile vehicles (rumored to be the Special Weapons Lance)

Headquarters Battery
--Repair/Tech Section (BRVs, Paramours)
--FiST Demi-Company (Two Platoons Hover Mechanized Infantry with TAG)
--Battalion S-1 (Admin) S-2 (Intelligence), S-3 (Operations), and S-4 (Supply) offices
--Security Company (officially Jump-infantry; truthfully a Company of SAS with rarely-used Nighthawk Mk.XXI Power-Armor (Light) suits)

Notable Members
--Master Sergeant Michael Mcamis; Battery 'A': Michael 'Little Mac' McAmis fired the first shot of the Thunder Lizards' involvement in Operation CHIEFTAIN. The stocky Tennessean was-, prior to the outbreak of hostilities in the Periphery, nominated twice for a slot in the Gunslinger Program and a subsequent transfer to a more-prestigious unit; he turned both nominations down rather than be reassigned to another unit. Little Mac and his Helepolis, Ugly John, were accorded the honor of being the Base Piece (which the other guns took their azimuth- and declination from during fire-missions) for not only his own Battery- but all three of the Primary Firing-Batteries. After the Battle of Fort Sill, the CO of the Thunder Lizards, Major Daniel Hotchkiss, gave McAmis a battlefield-commission to Lieutenant- and a sternly-worded order to accept it quietly.

--Sergeant Douglas 'Brother Doug' Schanks; 1st Squad/1st Platoon, Headquarters Battery FiST Demi-Company: Douglas Schanks held the Regimental record for number of commendations for skill- and valor in the field; he also held the Regimental record for number of Non-Judicial Punishments in-garrison. Schanks himself bragged that the shortest amount of time he held Sergeant's rank before being demoted was twenty-four hours. 'Brother Doug' was slain during the Battle of Fort Sill after calling a fire-mission down on his own position as it was being overrun by RWA tanks.

--Master Sergeant Gregory Davis; Headquarters Battery Security Company: Greg Davis told the majority of the SLDF that he was a Jump-trooper; he told the majority of his family that he was a PX-system truck-driver; the truth was that he transferred to the 2nd/75th FA from the 77th SOG, and while his Lieutenant signed the paperwork, 'Frog' Davis was the real leader of his Company of "Miscreants-, Malcontents-, and Murderers". Frog had a well-deserved reputation for being Major Hotchkiss' go-to for "Field Requisitions-Support", i.e., "Grand Larceny Directed at the Enemy". Davis was the only member of the Thunder Lizards who went with General Kerensky on the Exodus.
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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #1 on: 13 December 2022, 20:24:56 »
Two squads does not a "demi-company" make... "demi-platoon" maybe? ???

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #2 on: 13 December 2022, 20:29:01 »
Two squads does not a "demi-company" make... "demi-platoon" maybe? ???

I fixed that; thanks for catching it.

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #3 on: 13 December 2022, 20:34:09 »
That makes much more sense, thanks!  :thumbsup:

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #4 on: 13 December 2022, 20:45:03 »
So, what do you think of the unit as a whole?

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #5 on: 13 December 2022, 20:55:02 »
Personally, I prefer Thumpers over Snipers.  I've posted a few designs on that theme (in my sig block, of course)...  :)

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #6 on: 14 December 2022, 13:17:00 »
Shouldn't an artillery unit be using artillery pieces, not mechs?

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #7 on: 14 December 2022, 14:19:58 »
Heleopolis' are artillery mechs

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #8 on: 14 December 2022, 15:08:15 »
FYI,
The Partisan AA Tank was not in use by the SLDF.

It wasn't created till post Exodus to supplement Rifleman/Jager

PS.  For that matter even the Rifleman-3N was barely introduced in 2770.
Your probably better off using the 2N unless they are "new" to the unit.
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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #9 on: 14 December 2022, 15:17:37 »
It's listed as an "over" strength battalion but unless I'm blind it looks pretty short.

20 Mech + 4 Vehicles
5 Infantry Platoons

I mean, I guess that is over strength in that its 41 "Squads" total, but given 17 are Infantry its not exactly a large unit.

I think I'd have probably given it more tanks like Jim mentioned above.

Something like....  12 Chaparrals + 12 Snipers/Padillas for 2 companies.
Then a 12 mech unit.....
Rifleman-2N *4,  Hele*4 + Striker Lance of Griffin/Mongoose.

Finally a 4th Infantry Company of 2 Hover & 1 Jump/BA Platoon.
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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #10 on: 14 December 2022, 18:43:53 »
A battery is SIX tubes though...  8)

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #11 on: 15 December 2022, 07:47:48 »
It's listed as an "over" strength battalion but unless I'm blind it looks pretty short.

20 Mech + 4 Vehicles
5 Infantry Platoons


I believe he has a total of 40 mechs -

Battery A is 3 lances of 4 mechs each, same as B and C; so a total of 36 there
Battery D has a single mech lance as well, making 40 total.

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #12 on: 15 December 2022, 11:01:43 »
A battery is SIX tubes though...  8)

For the USA in 2022 sure.
Does the SLDF follow that 700 years later?
I've never heard that they diverge from 4 unit lances.

IF they did, 12 Tanks still splits easily & w/o the waste of having all those extra mechs as spotters in mixed lances which isn't an SLDF thing very often.
« Last Edit: 15 December 2022, 11:06:28 by Hellraiser »
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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #13 on: 15 December 2022, 11:05:15 »
I believe he has a total of 40 mechs -

Battery A is 3 lances of 4 mechs each, same as B and C; so a total of 36 there
Battery D has a single mech lance as well, making 40 total.

Primary Firing-Batteries (designated 'A', 'B', and 'C')
--Three Lances each; each Lance consists of: One Mongoose-66b, one Griffin-2N, two Helepolis-3H.

Ok, I can see how your reading it, I thought it was saying that each "Battery" was a "Lance" of 4 mechs when I first read it.

If that is the case, then Ok, I can see it being really overstrength then with 40 Mechs, 8 Tanks, & 5 Infantry/BA Platoons
17 Platoons/Lances, 68 Combat Squads, yeah, that's bigger than most any battalion.

Honestly the SAS BA should be at the Regimental level.
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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #14 on: 15 December 2022, 18:25:37 »
When you can fit two "tubes" on a single "unit", you can easily get to six tubes in four units...  ^-^

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #15 on: 02 January 2023, 00:29:24 »
I went back and changed the Lance of Partisans in the Reserve-Artillery/ADA Battery (Battery 'D') to a Lance of Polluxes.

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #16 on: 20 January 2023, 13:02:22 »
Ok, I can see how your reading it, I thought it was saying that each "Battery" was a "Lance" of 4 mechs when I first read it.

If that is the case, then Ok, I can see it being really overstrength then with 40 Mechs, 8 Tanks, & 5 Infantry/BA Platoons
17 Platoons/Lances, 68 Combat Squads, yeah, that's bigger than most any battalion.

Honestly the SAS BA should be at the Regimental level.

By BT standards it is overstrength. I would argue that you do not really need the security company of infantry when the arty lances already have two "bodyguard" mechs each in the Mongooses and Griffins. You could also replace two Mongooses/Griffins with Riflemen in each "battery" and remove the separate air defense lances altogether, which allows you to fold in the special weapons platoon with the two platoons of recon infantry and just make that the 4th company overall. Three artillery companies, a 4th "special" company and a HQ section makes good sense as a reinforced artillery battalion.

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Re: 2nd Battalion, 75th Field Artillery Regiment "Thunder Lizards"
« Reply #17 on: 20 January 2023, 13:56:25 »
By BT standards it is overstrength. I would argue that you do not really need the security company of infantry when the arty lances already have two "bodyguard" mechs each in the Mongooses and Griffins. You could also replace two Mongooses/Griffins with Riflemen in each "battery" and remove the separate air defense lances altogether, which allows you to fold in the special weapons platoon with the two platoons of recon infantry and just make that the 4th company overall. Three artillery companies, a 4th "special" company and a HQ section makes good sense as a reinforced artillery battalion.

I like where your going with that & I'd probably take it a bit further even.

2 Companies = "Battery/Company" could have 3 different lances based on the "escort"
Command Lance = +2 Rifleman
Fire Lance = +2 Griffin
Recon Lance = +2 Mongoose


3rd Special Company =
ADA + 3 Chaparral
ADA + 3 Chaparral
Mechanized Infantry
Mechanized Infantry

All of the above will fit into an Overlord-2 variant that drops a mech company for 12 Heavy Vees & 600 tons cargo.
It even leaves you 4 bays left over for the repair vehicles.

Though, personally, I'd carry those as part of the "Cargo" w/ the 2 Infantry Platoons & instead add a Platoon of mixed Zephyrs/Beagles as a fast spotter group.


BA/Security moved to Regimental level.
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"I don't shoot Urbanmechs, I walk up, stomp on their foot, wait for the head to pop open & drop in a hand grenade (or Elemental)" - Joel47
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