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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #30 on: 24 September 2019, 08:17:13 »
#7 Should be the Perry!

The Perry-class is also important as your starting point for the old EA classic Desert Strike


Holy cow!!! I had forgotten that!!!

Is that supposed to be a Cheyenne?

Nah; the first is explicitly a showcase for the Apache.
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« Reply #31 on: 24 September 2019, 09:04:58 »
This is how she looked at the end of her career as a floating barracks. Not unlike Nelson's old ships that ended their lives in Ordinary, unsuitable for duty on the high seas.
Does that have the same stability issues as a Tumblehome hulls?
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #32 on: 24 September 2019, 09:16:09 »
Only time it probably ever left the dock was when it was going to the scrappers across the port.

Exactly... it's OK as a starting point for research, but it should never be what you cite in a paper.

After watching someone 10 years ago at a college get up from their computer to go get their printed documents and seeing the first sentence in the paper have both red & green underlined areas yet NOT be a quote . . . I will not under estimate what happens.  I thought citing wikipedia was a automatic F, but then my friend got out of collegiate teaching b/c of various reasons, one of them being he had to fight administration to fail people- I know one time he was grading mid-terms he opened his birthday present & a 2-liter of Coke to get through it.

But back on topic . . .

I do have to wonder about the budget reasoning for doing that to a warship rather than just using a warehouse even.
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« Reply #33 on: 24 September 2019, 09:28:26 »
I do have to wonder about the budget reasoning for doing that to a warship rather than just using a warehouse even.

Better security. It's a bit harder to desert or go AWOL from a ship with only one egress point than from a warehouse with multiple doors.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #34 on: 24 September 2019, 09:35:43 »
Guess or cited/actual reason?

I mean, I can see that for Age of Sail with impression . . . but the Illinois in that picture was used that way from . . . 20s? to 50s and outside of WWII we did not have a draft, and it was listed as a training vessel.  Which since it was unlikely to sail, means a schoolhouse . . . with maybe some hands on instruction in . . . coal powered steam plants?
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« Reply #35 on: 24 September 2019, 09:41:50 »
I know during times of impression and draft it was for that reason. Afterwards, I'm just guessing. Maybe it was a case of "we've got this barracks ship, it's cheaper to keep using it"? Or tradition. Navies do a lot of weird things because of tradition.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #36 on: 24 September 2019, 09:56:35 »
This image from navsource, if your wondering.

This is the USS Nipsic, which started life as a steam-powered gunship, ended as a Barrack ship.
She was launched in New Hampshire's Portsmouth Navy Yard on 15 June 1863.  Where she

Here she is in Washington Navy Yard between 1860-1870


During the Civil War, she was part of the Charleston Squadron, providing a Blockade.
After the war ship sailed South America providing protection to interested down there until she was broken 1873.

What funny is, because i guess she wooden sail boat.  She got a second lease on life and was rebuilt into a larger Adams/Enterprise-class gunboat in 1887.

She would continue server, various posts from Med to Hawaii.  While in Hawaii, she ended caught in a Cyclone hitting the Hawaii in 1889, where he captain successfully beached the ship saving it being sunk where merchantment the harbor were sunk.  She took heavy damage to her boilers and her masts were smashed.  She was refloated and rebuilt yet again, lengthen and her tonnage increased.

She remained a guard ship for Hawaii until 1890 where she was decommissioned and repurposed as a Receiving and ship an prison. Sadly she sold in 1913, and burned for her value of items 15,000.  Her propeller survives her displayed at the old  Mare Island Naval Yard, but with yard closed hard to say if its still there or not.



This picture was taken in Pudget Sound Naval Station in Washington State in 1898.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #37 on: 24 September 2019, 20:41:06 »
Man, Northern Fleet is cursed.  They lost a ship to a walrus.

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« Reply #38 on: 24 September 2019, 20:43:37 »
In Soviet Russia, the walrus attacks... oh, wait...  ::)

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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #39 on: 24 September 2019, 22:10:05 »
Someone oopsied

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« Reply #40 on: 24 September 2019, 22:31:57 »
That has to be catastrophic levels of suck, considering that the whole crew is probably going to have to walk to get rescued...

Just how the hell did that happen, anyway?
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #42 on: 25 September 2019, 06:30:29 »
The Norwegian navy used the decommissioned HNoMS Trondheim target ship. This is a picture of the ship being struck by Naval Strike Missile in 2013.



I would not want to be aboard doing damage control after THAT.

This is what she used to look like, this is her sister ship, HNoMS Bergen.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #43 on: 25 September 2019, 11:20:06 »
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #44 on: 25 September 2019, 11:26:39 »
It would have been interesting if they had allowed for (if possible) have the old Mk29 Launch try shoot down the Naval Strike Mission.  See if it worked.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #45 on: 25 September 2019, 11:32:13 »
What is bugging me is I am trying to see if the picture caught the ripple of the ship's hull just aft of the superstructure.  It also looks like its listing slightly from the explosion/impact.  Nice view though . . .
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« Reply #46 on: 25 September 2019, 11:57:18 »
It would have been interesting if they had allowed for (if possible) have the old Mk29 Launch try shoot down the Naval Strike Mission.  See if it worked.
They probably know from classified tests

Maybe they don't want to waste the launcher that way. I dunno, what can these old gear be salvaged for?

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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #47 on: 25 September 2019, 12:45:43 »
Given the Mk29 was still aboard the ship when it was hit....maybe not that much.  They must taken most electronics out. Still would have been interesting test against a Naval Strike Missile to see how good it would do.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #48 on: 25 September 2019, 14:46:30 »
Here something i missed, HMS Prince of Wales is on gotten underway for her sea trials.

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« Reply #49 on: 25 September 2019, 15:56:14 »
Not just sea trials





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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #50 on: 26 September 2019, 01:57:42 »
Very modern looking island/tower there

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« Reply #51 on: 26 September 2019, 06:04:54 »
Are they going keep both ships in commission at the same time?  I was under the impression their budget couldn't handle that.
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« Reply #52 on: 26 September 2019, 06:09:47 »
Are they going keep both ships in commission at the same time?  I was under the impression their budget couldn't handle that.

Last news both would be commissioned into navy in practice one will likely be in port or around UK training while other is deployed unless war breaks out
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« Reply #53 on: 26 September 2019, 06:11:23 »
More boats
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #54 on: 26 September 2019, 06:17:29 »
HMS Dragon!  She escorting HMS Queen Elizabeth.  That destroyer must be the most famous ship currently commission.  I keep thinking she has a Nickname of  "Destroyer with the Dragon Tattoo".
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« Reply #56 on: 26 September 2019, 08:27:52 »
HMS Dragon!  She escorting HMS Queen Elizabeth.  That destroyer must be the most famous ship currently commission.  I keep thinking she has a Nickname of  "Destroyer with the Dragon Tattoo".
please tell me she flies the flag of Wales. :)

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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #57 on: 26 September 2019, 10:01:18 »


PLAN is launching their first amphib assault ship . . .

Under construction-


Wonder if it was built in the same slips they used to build their new carriers.
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« Reply #58 on: 26 September 2019, 10:27:37 »
I read about that LHD / LHA that was in a report about china on new.usni.org. It's called the Type 075. 

There not alot info on it, not even if it has a well-deck or not.  Just looks like a copy of Wasp/America class ships US has in service.
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Re: Naval Pictures VII: Underway, Shift Colors!
« Reply #59 on: 26 September 2019, 12:28:05 »
I read that it has the capability of launching landing craft. No word however whether that is from a well deck or from davits. They already deploy a number of well deck Amphib Assault ships.

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