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RifleMech

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #30 on: 21 August 2024, 14:01:26 »
For building costs check out the Building and Mobile Structure Costs Table in the back of TacOps. It'd be page 418 in the older combined book. The basic cost is below. There's tables for structures, engines, armor, etc. Add them all together and you've got your total cost.

Base Unit Cost = (Structure Cost + Engine/Generator Cost + Motive System Cost + Armor Cost + Weapon and Equipment Cost) x (1 + CF ÷ 100)* 


As far as going hull down, Trailers can't as they don't have MP to spend but they can benefit from half levels if they're adjacent to one.
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Second, if a vehicle is adjacent to a half-level hex and the LOS of the attack passes through that hex, the vehicle is con-sidered hull-down for that attack.

So you could park a trailer, or vehicle, in a hex surrounded by half-level hexes, and it'd count as hull-down from all directions. That could be considered "buried".

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #31 on: 21 August 2024, 14:26:00 »
Some good ideas here.

Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #32 on: 22 August 2024, 03:03:17 »
Thanks feel free to use anything. If you see any capabilities i missed or improvements I can make be sure to mention them.

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #33 on: 23 August 2024, 14:46:44 »
It's been a few days but a question riflemech if you read this. If the enemy were to either reach the half levels surrounding the turret or attack while jumpjetting it would negate this protection allowing the shots to strike places other than the turret correct?

Would Direct hits on the hex from artillery bypass this defense or impact on the turret?

Can I make half levels with the bulldozers?

I'm guessing I should probably mine or fortify these half level tiles.

Prospective Simplified Turret lighter less armor and therefore cost though still high turret armor one each AC-10 and 2.
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Turret FOB Defense

Mass: 50 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 10 ICE
Cruising Speed: 0 kph
Maximum Speed: 0 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     1 AC/2
     1 AC/10
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3080
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-X-F-E
Cost: 818,000 C-bills

Type: Turret
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 50
Battle Value: 671

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    5
Engine                        10 ICE                  1
Cruising MP: 0
Flank MP: 0
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             2.0
Armor Factor                  215                  13.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         15   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5        155   


Weapons
and Ammo               Location    Tonnage   
AC/10                   Turret       12.0   
AC/2                    Turret       6.0     
Flak AC/10 Ammo (10)     Body        1.0     
AC/10 Ammo (50)          Body        5.0     
Flak AC/2 Ammo (90)      Body        2.0     
« Last Edit: 23 August 2024, 14:53:06 by Primus203 »

Daryk

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #34 on: 23 August 2024, 16:13:36 »
The easiest way around hills like that is to stand on a taller hill.

Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #35 on: 23 August 2024, 16:18:55 »
So what your telling me is that I need to use Bulldozers to remove the hills then. :grin:

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #36 on: 23 August 2024, 16:22:41 »
Heh... if you have the time and the bulldozers, the world is your oyster! ;D

Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #37 on: 23 August 2024, 16:31:09 »
More realistically though I modified the linebacker main battle tank of this thread to have a turret version. It is the same in most respects except for armor being redistributed and CASE being removed to save a bit of money. Even with lessened armor though it can still take a gauss rifle to any face in case of ambush wile being moved to it's destination. Turret has 148 Armor. Can go hull down under standard fortified ground rules.

Linebacker AC-10 Turret
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Linebacker AC-10 Turret

Mass: 50 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 150 ICE
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     1 AC/10
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3065
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-X-F-E
Cost: 855,750 C-bills

Type: Linebacker
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 50
Battle Value: 825

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    5
Engine                        150 ICE                11
Cruising MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor                  208                    13

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         15   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5        148   


Weapons
and Ammo               Location    Tonnage   
AC/10                   Turret       12.0   
Flak AC/10 Ammo (10)     Body        1.0     
AC/10 Ammo (40)          Body        4.0     
Linebacker AC-2  Turret
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Linebacker AC-2 Turret

Mass: 50 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 150 ICE
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     2 AC/2
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3065
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-X-F-E
Cost: 741,000 C-bills

Type: Linebacker
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 50
Battle Value: 726

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                    5
Engine                        150 ICE                11
Cruising MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Control Equipment:                                  2.5
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             1.5
Armor Factor                  208                    13

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         15   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5        148   


Weapons
and Ammo               Location    Tonnage   
2 AC/2                  Turret       12.0   
AC/2 Ammo (90)           Body        2.0     
Flak AC/2 Ammo (135)     Body        3.0     

Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #38 on: 25 August 2024, 02:16:48 »
In the defense of the world from invasion any assets of possible use must be considered as such some civilian vehicles have conversion kit's prepared in large number to convert these vehicles to light combatants if deemed necessary.

Hilux Series- Based off a reliable series of old Terran trucks this is a common popular truck available in large numbers. Characterized by a rugged frame and off road capability. The Conversion kit for these vehicles is simple a bolt on frame of BAR7 armor to protect against small arms fire and shrapnel and maybe if fate smiles upon you close calls with heavier armament. The Hilux has a respectable 7/11 MP and you can knock off 4k C-Bills of the listed cost as these would be appropriated civilian vehicles.

Hilux Transport- Has a half ton cargo bay to either carry cargo or infantry. Has a support machine gun and a grenade launcher with a mix of standard and inferno rounds.
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Hilux Armed Transport
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>2.4 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>75.6 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>118.8 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 Grenade Launcher (Heavy)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 Machine Gun (Support)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-D-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 10,153 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Hilux
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 2,400 kg
Battle Value: 44

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  787.0
Engine/Trans.                                     636.0
    Cruise MP:7
Flank MP:11
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               48.0
Turret                                              7.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          8                   360.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         2     
     Turret                  1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                           Location    Tonnage   
Machine Gun                         Turret       44.0   
Machine Gun Ammo (100 shots)        Turret       5.0     
Grenade Launcher                    Turret       18.0   
Grenade Launcher Ammo (20 shots)    Turret       12.0   
Inferno Ammo (0)                     Body       1000.0   

Cargo
    Bay 1:  Cargo (0.5 tons)        1 Door   

Notes:
Features Off-Road Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch

Hilux Technical SRM - Mounts a single Support Machine Gun and 4 Heavy 2 Shot Infantry SRM with a mix of standard and inferno. Likely accompanied by a Hilux Transport with reloads. Is the only of the three to have fire control having a basic to lower needed crew.
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Hilux Armed Technical SRM
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>2.4 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>75.6 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>118.8 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 Machine Gun (Support)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 SRM Launcher (Std, Two-Shot)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-D-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 24,105 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Hilux
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 2,400 kg
Battle Value: 76

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  721.0000000000001
Engine/Trans.                                     636.0
    Cruise MP:7
Flank MP:11
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               57.0
Turret                                             17.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          8                   360.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         2     
     Turret                  1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                                        Location    Tonnage   
Machine Gun                                      Turret       44.0   
Machine Gun Ammo (100 shots)                     Turret       5.0     
2 SRM Launcher (Std, Two-Shot)                   Turret       60.0   
2 SRM Launcher (Std, Two-Shot) Ammo (4 shots)    Turret       40.0   
2 SRM Launcher (Std, Two-Shot)                   Turret       60.0   
2 SRM Launcher (Std, Two-Shot) Ammo (4 shots)    Turret       40.0   
Inferno Ammo (0)                                  Body       4000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Off-Road Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Basic Fire Control(9 kg)
Hilux Mortar- Carries a pair of Heavy Infantry Mortars. Mixed standard and inferno ammo. Likely accompanied by a Hilux Transport for reloads and close in infantry protection.
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Hilux Mortar
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>2.4 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>75.6 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>118.8 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Mortar (Heavy)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-C-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 17,230 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Hilux
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 2,400 kg
Battle Value: 35

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  787.0
Engine/Trans.                                     636.0
    Cruise MP:7
Flank MP:11
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               51.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          6                   270.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                          Location    Tonnage   
2 Mortar (Heavy)                    Rear       440.0   
2 Mortar (Heavy) Ammo (2 shots)     Rear        8.0     
Inferno Ammo (0)                    Body       2000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Off-Road Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch

Hilux Trailers- A pair of trailers that the Hilux would likely use.

Armored Civilian Trailer Minelayer- A 1 ton standard civilian farm trailer made for farm work. Has offroad suspension and wheels. Bolted to this standard trailer is a light BAR7 armor box and a Minelayer.
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Armored Civilian Trailer Minelayer
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>1 ton<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> None<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>10.8 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>21.6 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-E-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 21,064 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Armored Civilian Trailer
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 1,000 kg
Battle Value: 16

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  306.0
Engine/Trans.                                       0.0
    Cruise MP:1
Flank MP:2
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          4                   180.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         1     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         1     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Trailer, Off-Road Chassis and Controls Modifications
Vehicular Mine Dispenser(500 kg)
Trailer Hitch
Light Military Trailer Hilux Rocket Launcher- Though just slightly over twice the weight of the hilux it is not meant to be used in an assault role. The hilux would move it into position in the city and direct it's fire after which it would be detached and recovered later if possible. Has light armor and 4 RL-10.
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Light Military Trailer Hilux Rocket Launcher
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> None<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>10.8 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>21.6 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 Rocket Launcher 10<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-C-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 69,982 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Light Military Trailer
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 5,000 kg
Battle Value: 65

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  2000.0
Engine/Trans.                                       0.0
    Cruise MP:1
Flank MP:2
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.0
Turret                                            500.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          11                  500.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       2/2   
     Rear                    1         2     
     Turret                  1         3     


Weapons
and Ammo               Location    Tonnage   
4 Rocket Launcher 10    Turret      2000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Trailer, Off-Road Chassis and Controls Modifications
Trailer Hitch
Basic Fire Control(500 kg)
The Protector Fire Engine- This fire engine is actually unmodified. It has armor due to several high profile accidents involving lost firefighters due to collapsing buildings. Has a single fluid gun with basic fire control and a fluid suction system to replenish it. Can be loaded for the mission inferno fuel, acid, it all goes. Basically free as it's part of the fire department only cost is to replace after invasion if lost.
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Fire Engine Protector
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>24 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>86.4 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 Fluid Gun<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-C-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 117,012 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Fire Engine
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 24 tons
Battle Value: 121

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                    6.5
Engine/Trans.                                      10.5
    Cruise MP:5
Flank MP:8
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.5
Turret                                              0.5
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          44                    2.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   2         9     
     R/L Side               2/2       9/9   
     Rear                    2         8     
     Turret                  2         9     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Fluid Gun              Turret       2.0     
Fluid Gun Ammo (20)     Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Trailer Hitch
Fluid Suction System(1 ton)
Basic Fire Control(0.5 tons)
Protector Trailer- Exactly what it says on the tin a trailer for the fire engine carrying 3 more tons of fluid.
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Fire Engine Trailer Protector Trailer
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Wheeled<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> None<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>86.4 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-B-B<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 4,170 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Fire Engine Trailer
Chassis Type: Wheeled (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 5,000 kg
Battle Value: 35

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  1000.0
Engine/Trans.                                       0.0
    Cruise MP:5
Flank MP:8
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          14                  1000.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         3     
     R/L Side               1/1       4/4   
     Rear                    1         3     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
Fluid Gun Ammo (60)     Body       3000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Trailer Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Civilian Bulldozer Uparmored- A civillian dozer it's sturdy frame is good enough for the armored frame allowing it to have a kit of BAR 10 armor mounted to it. Can take a shot from an AC-5 to any face or a near miss from artillery. Cheap.
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Civilian Dozer Uparmored
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>15 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-X-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 96,312 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Civilian Dozer
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 15 tons
Battle Value: 93

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                    5.5
Engine/Trans.                                       5.5
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                0.5
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         23                    1.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   2         6     
     R/L Side               2/2       6/6   
     Rear                    2         5     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
None

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Bulldozer(2 tons)

Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #39 on: 26 August 2024, 23:08:19 »
It's been noted to me that my main cheap scout the jeep has the major flaw that even with off road mod it has constraints on terrain it can traverse. So I built three more scouts that fill the same role with similar armament as well. One each Tracked, Vtol, Hover. All are armed with dual support machine guns and triple recoiless rifles. The rifles were chosen due to more basic tech ammo choices than SRM has. With inferno ammo any of these should be the absolute bane of battle armor.

Light Tracked Scout- 5/8 MP the slowest of the scouts by a fair margin but has the ability to traverse difficult terrain as well as being able to hide unlike aircraft.
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Light Tracked Scout
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>4.5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>86.4 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Machine Gun (Support)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-D-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 25,675 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Light Tracked
Chassis Type: Tracked (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 4,500 kg
Battle Value: 64

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  1740.0
Engine/Trans.                                     1566.0
    Cruise MP:5
Flank MP:8
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                               98.0
Turret                                             27.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          13                  585.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         3     
     R/L Side               1/1       2/2   
     Rear                    1         3     
     Turret                  1         3     


Weapons
and Ammo                                    Location    Tonnage   
2 Machine Gun (Support)                      Turret       88.0   
2 Machine Gun (Support) Ammo (200 shots)     Turret       10.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)                   Turret      180.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy) Ammo (3 shots)    Turret       12.0   
Inferno Ammo (0)                              Body       3000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Amphibious Chassis and Controls Modification
Advanced Fire Control(27 kg)
Light Hover Scout- 9/14 MP mainly intended to be deployed on water or land that wheeled or tracked cannot effectively traverse.
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Light Hover Scout
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>4.5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Hover<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>97.2 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>151.2 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Machine Gun (Support)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-D-C<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 26,473 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Light Hover
Chassis Type: Hover (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 4,500 kg
Battle Value: 66

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  1542.0
Engine/Trans.                                     1913.0
    Cruise MP:9
Flank MP:14
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                              138.0
Turret                                             27.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          8                   360.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         2     
     Turret                  1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                                    Location    Tonnage   
2 Machine Gun (Support)                      Turret       88.0   
2 Machine Gun (Support) Ammo (200 shots)     Turret       10.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)                   Turret      180.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy) Ammo (3 shots)    Turret       12.0   
Inferno Ammo (0)                              Body       3000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Advanced Fire Control(27 kg)
Light VTOL Scout- The fastest of the light scouts at 10/15 MP though also probably the most vulnerable as it cannot take cover and is widely visible in the air.
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Light VTOL Scout
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>4.5 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>VTOL<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>108 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>162 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 7</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Machine Gun (Support)<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3080<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> C/X-X-F-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 26,243 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Light VTOL
Chassis Type: VTOL (Small)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 4,500 kg
Battle Value: 71

Equipment                                         Mass (kg)
Chassis/Controls                                  1603.9999999999998
Engine/Trans.                                     1872.0
    Cruise MP:10
Flank MP:15
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                              201.0
Turret                                             27.0
Armor Factor (BAR 7)          8                   360.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   1         2     
     R/L Side               1/1       1/1   
     Rear                    1         1     
     Turret                  1         1     
     Rotor                   1         2     


Weapons
and Ammo                                    Location    Tonnage   
2 Machine Gun (Support)                      Turret       88.0   
2 Machine Gun (Support) Ammo (200 shots)     Turret       10.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy)                   Turret      180.0   
3 Recoilless Rifle (Heavy) Ammo (3 shots)    Turret       12.0   
Inferno Ammo (0)                              Body       3000.0   

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Basic Fire Control(14 kg)
Now for a non scout vehicle. I was looking for how to use a long tom for important battles. This unit was intended to be used in fortified terrain fieldworks. This necessitated a turret which the standard vehicle didn't have. The standard mobile long tom also is slower than the slowest unit's here meaning it would slow down a force this was unacceptable. And lastly if the enemy could fire back the long tom had to little armor that even in field works it would die. The unit below was my solution.

Paladin Long Tom- Built on the 75 ton Paladin Heavy Tank chassis previously posted in this thread. Features a unique turret to fit the new weapon otherwise most parts are interchangeable except for the engine which had to be changed to a fuel cell due to tonnage reasons. Speed is unchanged.

Armor scheme is revised as this is meant to be used in field works. In case of attack while traveling this unit has 20 points on the sides and rear and 40  on the front which will be placed at the vulnerable angle if enemies get close to the field works. The turret has 116 armor.

Armament is obviously a long tom artillery piece fed by 5 tons of mixed ammo. The 5 tons is mainly to have a wide selection as ammo running out isnt a great concern as such field works also have replenishment vehicles. Meant to be used in batteries of four.  In battles important enough to have these deployed a minimum of 3-4 self propelled thumper batteries are likely deployed as well.
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Paladin Long Tom Carrier

Mass: 75 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 225 Fuel Cell
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     1 Long Tom
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3080
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-X-E-E
Cost: 2,760,625 C-bills

Type: Paladin
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Movement Type: Tracked
Tonnage: 75
Battle Value: 1,356

Equipment                                          Mass
Internal Structure                                  7.5
Engine                        225 Fuel Cell          12
Cruising MP: 3
Flank MP: 5
Heat Sinks:                   1                       0
Control Equipment:                                  4.0
Power Amplifier:                                    0.0
Turret:                                             3.0
Armor Factor                  216                  13.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   8         40   
     R/L Side               8/8      20/20   
     Rear                    8         20   
     Turret                  8        116   


Weapons
and Ammo                     Location    Tonnage   
Long Tom                      Turret       30.0   
FASCAM Long Tom Ammo (5)       Body        1.0     
Smoke Long Tom Ammo (5)        Body        1.0     
Fuel-Air Long Tom Ammo (5)     Body        1.0     
Long Tom Ammo (10)             Body        2.0     

RifleMech

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #40 on: 27 August 2024, 21:26:38 »
It's been a few days but a question riflemech if you read this. If the enemy were to either reach the half levels surrounding the turret or attack while jumpjetting it would negate this protection allowing the shots to strike places other than the turret correct?

Would Direct hits on the hex from artillery bypass this defense or impact on the turret?

Can I make half levels with the bulldozers?

I'm guessing I should probably mine or fortify these half level tiles.


As far as I can from the rules. attacks against the tank behind a half-hill have a +2 modifier and hit either the turret or front armor. Or the rear if it backed in. In this case where the tank is surrounded I'd say a successful attack hits either the turret or location the attack came from. From the front hits the front, the side hits the side. I believe that covers jumping as well.

If artillery hits the hex the unit would take full damage in 5 point groupings. Buildings are handled a bit differently.

That might need some clarification. TacOps says they can make fieldworks the same way the Trench/fieldworks Engineers can which gives a +2 towards attacks against infantry.

Mines would be good.


Primus203

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #41 on: 07 November 2024, 01:07:20 »
More designs after a while more aero this time.

Light Fighter hawk finally posted here.
Light Fighter Hawk - Been described by some as the Medium Strike fighter Liao on a diet. Mounts 3 LRM 5 and a ton of ammo. Comes with a single one ton internal bomb bay for flexibility. 5/8MP.
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Light Fighter Hawk

Mass: 20 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant: 100 ICE
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     3 LRM 5
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3080
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-X-C-C
Cost: 249,517 C-bills

Type: Light Fighter
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 20
Battle Value: 243

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                        100 ICE                 6
Safe Thrust: 5
Max Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity:         5                       
VSTOL Equipment:                                    1.0
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         240                   1.5
Cockpit                                               2
Armor Factor                  20                    1.5

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    5     
     Wings                  5/5   
     Aft                     5     


Weapons
and Ammo              Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
3 LRM 5                 NOS       6.0      2      3    3    3    0
LRM 5 Ammo (24)         FSLG      1.0      -      -    -    -    -

Features the following design quirks: Atmospheric Flyer, Internal Bomb Bay
F-7 Fighter - A fighter in the vein of the above hawk but made with only C-Tech parts. This makes it less capable but easier to produce and maintain. 5 tons heavier one MP slower at 4/6 no internal bomb bay and one less LRM-5. Has recon camera in spare half ton.
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F-7 Fighter Jet 2870

Mass: 25 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  ICE
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
     2 LRM 5
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2820
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-D-D-C
Cost: 283,950 C-bills

Type: F-7 Fighter Jet
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 25
Battle Value: 137

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         ICE                   10
Safe Thrust: 4
Max Thrust: 6
Structural Integrity:         4                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         80                    2.0
Cockpit                                             2.5
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          29                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    10   
     Wings                  7/7   
     Aft                     5     


Weapons
and Ammo                Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
2 LRM 5                   NOS       4.0      2      3    3    3    0 
Recon Camera              NOS       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
LRM 5 Ammo (24)           BOD       1.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control     BOD       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod            BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
F-7 Tanker - A tanker modification of the above fighter made by removing the weapons and replacing them with a similar weight of fuel and refueling drogue. Made to ferry the craft next on the list.
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F-7 Fighter Jet 2870 Tanker

Mass: 25 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  ICE
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2820
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-D-D-C
Cost: 162,450 C-bills

Type: F-7 Fighter Jet
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 25
Battle Value: 44

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         ICE                   10
Safe Thrust: 4
Max Thrust: 6
Structural Integrity:         4                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         280                   7.0
Cockpit                                             2.5
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          29                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    10   
     Wings                  7/7   
     Aft                     5     


Weapons
and Ammo                Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
Refueling Drogue          NOS       1.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control     BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod            BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
The Jennings series jet. Originally a training jet. Like the Real life A-37 Super Tweet the design was armed and received  much more powerful engines. Though using more D-Tech at such a light  tonnage and using infantry weapons this is much less problematic. All designs have the same stats only changing fuel load as available to load weapons.

Jennings Light Hobby Aircraft Civilian - Though Listed as civilian all craft have all the spaces and ports necessary for militarization. The main component is an empty space in the craft nose for a weapon bay. 8/12MP really cheap.
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Jennings Light Hobby Jet Civilian

Mass: 4.95 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  ICE
Armor: BAR 2
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2820
Tech Rating/Availability: D/X-E-D-D
Cost: 22,083 C-bills

Type: Jennings Light Hobby Jet
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 4.95
Battle Value: 20

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         ICE                2.525
Safe Thrust: 8
Max Thrust: 12
Structural Integrity:         8                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         123                 1.845
Cockpit                                             0.5
Armor Factor (BAR 2)          8                   0.104

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    2     
     Wings                  2/2   
     Aft                     2     


Weapons
and Ammo                Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
SV Chassis Mod            BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control     BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod            BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Jennings Barton AMR - Mounts 5 Barton AMR from shrapnel giving it amazing range was originally the only design but as people had issues with shrapnel weapons more designs were made later. Cost 26,512 C-Bill.

Jennings Man Portable AA - Mounts 5 AA Weapon MK 2 Cost 48,734 C-Bills.

Jennings Support Laser Semi Portable- Mounts 5 Semi Portable support Laser Cost 52,306 C-Bills

Jennings Support Machine Gun - Mounts 5 Support Machine Guns short ranged but powerful. Cost 32,661 C3-Bills.

Jennings Recoiless Rifle - Mounts 5 Heavy Recoiless Rifle Blast is vented upwards and rifles are fed by drum magazine. The ground attack specialist. Cost 42,195 C-Bills.

Jennings Corellian Farshot - A later variant due to the later make of the 5 Corelian Farshot LRM. Cost 34,172 C-Bills.

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #42 on: 10 November 2024, 01:59:44 »
The Units of this post are the Smith Common tank 7+ units sharing the same frame with different loadouts. Almost all parts are common except on 2 units. This family of units us a solidly second line unit being built on support  vehicle chassis with C-Tech Engine and Frame. This is chosen to boost vehicle production as other lower tech factories can be used to bulk production.

 All units except for have same armor and speed of 3/5 artillery variant had to sacrifice armor and an MP. The design is heavily  intended to be used in a massed mobile pillbox role the armor supports this. All around protection is 15 points with having 20 in case of being used in attack. Turret has 30 in line with the desire to use in hull down.

In the lore I've written in my head the Smith Common Tank is made to be stored. It is built to be stored in components the majority of the components are stable able to be stored in dry conditions without deterioration for centuries. The idea is that there would be assembly lines with much of the welding and complicated work being done by machines and what isn't is made to be put in as a unit making unskilled assembly possible. With this a proper factory can assemble a unit from parts at a rate of one per three minutes.

Smith Common Tank AC-5 - One of the more common loadouts. Has an AC-5 with three tons of ammo one flak two standard.
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Smith Common Tank AC-5
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 AC/5<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-F-F-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 548,625 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 419

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
AC/5                   Turret       8.0     
AC/5 Ammo (40)          Body        2.0     
Flak AC/5 Ammo (20)     Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
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Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Smith Common Tank AC-2 - The other of the most common varriants. Mounts an AC-2 and three tons of ammo two flak one standard. Spare two tons is taken up by a bulldozer attachment allowing this unit to support friendlies by digging positions for hull down use.
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Smith Common Tank AC-2
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 AC/2<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-F-F-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 523,500 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 385

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo              Location    Tonnage   
AC/2                   Turret       6.0     
AC/2 Ammo (45)          Body        1.0     
Flak AC/2 Ammo (90)     Body        2.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Bulldozer(2 tons)
Smith Common Tank LRM - Mounts 4 LRM-5's carries three tons of ammo 2 standard one smoke.
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Smith Common Tank LRM
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 LRM 5<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-E-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 629,250 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 520

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                Location    Tonnage   
4 LRM 5                  Turret       8.0     
LRM 5 Ammo (48)           Body        2.0     
LRM 5 Smoke Ammo (24)     Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Smith Common Tank SRM - Mounts 4 SRM-4's and three tons of ammo one each standard, inferno, smoke. Meant to be used to defend other units in close or for city fighting.
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Smith Common Tank SRM
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4 SRM 4<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-E-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 795,750 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 493

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                  Location    Tonnage   
4 SRM 4                    Turret       8.0     
SRM 4 Smoke Ammo (25)       Body        1.0     
SRM 4 Inferno Ammo (25)     Body        1.0     
SRM 4 Ammo (25)             Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Smith Common Tank Anti Infantry - Meant to combat infantry and battlesuits. Mounts twin vehicle flamers three machine guns and an SRM-6 with one ton each standard, inferno, and smoke.
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Smith Common Tank Anti Infantry
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 Machine Gun<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Flamer (Vehicle)<br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 SRM 6<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-E-D-D<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 584,063 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 405

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   2         20   
     R/L Side               2/2      15/15   
     Rear                    2         15   
     Turret                  2         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                   Location    Tonnage   
2 Flamer (Vehicle)          Turret       1.0     
SRM 6                       Turret       3.0     
3 Machine Gun               Turret       1.5     
Vehicle Flamer Ammo (40)     Body        2.0     
SRM 6 Smoke Ammo (15)        Body        1.0     
SRM 6 Inferno Ammo (15)      Body        1.0     
SRM 6 Ammo (15)              Body        1.0     
Machine Gun Ammo (100)       Body        0.5     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Smith Common Tank Rocket Launcher - Mounts 9 RL-10 starts with primitive  version and switches to standard as soon as available. This design uses a different turret then the others. The turret has storage and infantry space under the top mounted rocket racks. The rocket racks are made to be reloadable by the troops while still inside the vehicle using rockets from the cargo space.
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Smith Common Tank RCL Primitive
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>54 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;9 Prototype Rocket Launcher 10<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-F-X-X<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 537,750 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 457

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   13.5
Engine/Trans.                                      17.0
    Cruise MP:3
Flank MP:5
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              0.5
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                         Location    Tonnage   
9 Prototype Rocket Launcher 10    Turret       4.5     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(0.5 tons)
Smith Common Tank Thumper- Mounts a thumper artillery piece  with 4 tons of mixed ammo. Engine had to be downrated to 2/3 a painful sacrifice. Armor also had to be lessened down to 10 all around except for turret which has 15.
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Smith Common Tank Thumper
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> ICE<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>21.6 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>32.4 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 Thumper<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 2820<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> D/X-F-E-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 585,188 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 243

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.5
Engine/Trans.                                      10.5
    Cruise MP:2
Flank MP:3
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.5
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         55                    3.5

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         10   
     R/L Side               5/5      10/10   
     Rear                    5         10   
     Turret                  5         15   


Weapons
and Ammo                     Location    Tonnage   
Thumper                       Turret       15.0   
Thumper Ammo (40)              Body        2.0     
Fuel-Air Thumper Ammo (20)     Body        1.0     
Smoke Thumper Ammo (20)        Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1.5 tons)
Smith Common Tank AC-5 3120 refit - An example of the refits done as industrial output and tech got better for the builders. To take advantage of these older frames the engine was replaced with a D-Tech fuel cell engine giving 8.5 free tons. 4.5 of these are spent on an engine uprate from 3/5 to 4/6 two are spent on the addition of special AC shells. and another two on chaff pods. All the other variants got similar types of upgrades with freed tonnage of new engine.
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Smith Common Tank AC-5 3120 Refit
<p>
<b>Mass: </b>50 tons<br/>

<b>Movement Type: </b>Tracked<br/>

<b>Power Plant: </b> Fuel Cell<br/>
<b>Cruising Speed: </b>43.2 kph<br/>
<b>Maximum Speed: </b>64.8 kph<br/>
<b>Armor: </b>BAR 10</b><br/>
<b>Armament:</b><br/>
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1 AC/5<br/>


<b>Communication System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Targeting & Tracking System: </b>Unknown<br/>
<b>Introduction Year:</b> 3120<br/>
<b>Tech Rating/Availability:</b> E/X-X-F-E<br/>
<b>Cost:</b> 630,188 C-bills<br/>
</p>




 
Type: Smith Common Tank
Chassis Type: Tracked (Medium)
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Advanced)
Mass: 50 tons
Battle Value: 495

Equipment                                         Mass (tons)
Chassis/Controls                                   14.0
Engine/Trans.                                      13.0
    Cruise MP:4
Flank MP:6
Heat Sinks                    0                     0.0
Fuel                                                1.0
Turret                                              1.0
Armor Factor (BAR 10)         95                    6.0

                          Internal   Armor   
                          Structure  Value   
     Front                   5         20   
     R/L Side               5/5      15/15   
     Rear                    5         15   
     Turret                  5         30   


Weapons
and Ammo                        Location    Tonnage   
AC/5                             Turret       8.0     
Precision AC/5 Ammo (10)          Body        1.0     
AC/5 Ammo (40)                    Body        2.0     
Flak AC/5 Ammo (20)               Body        1.0     
Armor-Piercing AC/5 Ammo (10)     Body        1.0     

Cargo
    None

Notes:
Features Armored Chassis Chassis and Controls Modification
Trailer Hitch
Advanced Fire Control(1 ton)
Chaff Pod(2; 1 ton each)
« Last Edit: 10 November 2024, 02:07:15 by Primus203 »

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #43 on: 04 December 2024, 01:09:42 »
New unit. This unit was designed as a conceptual counter to Battle Armor. The question was what would be a cheap, reasonably mobile, low tech counter to battle armor. The answer was a fixed wing craft carrying HE or Inferno bombs.

I present the rattlesnake series close support aircraft. At 30 tons it has only 3/5 MP but as these is aero movement against ground targets and the rattlesnake is not supposed to fight other aircraft this is more than adequate. Has VSTOL to aid in forward resupplying. Uses a battery powered prop engine.

Armament is a bit unusual. There are two internal bomb bays. One in the belly carrying 6 tons of bombs along with space for an extra half ton of batteries if the fire control is not installed. The second smaller bay is in the nose. This is a 4 ton bay. This bay is different though. Though the design predates omni tech the bay gets around this by opening up and fitting equipment modules specifically designed at the same time as the craft slotting perfectly into place though alignment and set up takes several hours. On top of this the craft has 3 external hardpoints for an additional 3 bombs. Though slower than the boeing jump bomber this design is cheaper, needs lower tech level and carries three times the bombs.

Rattlesnake Bomb+ - The empty version of the rattlesnake. Carries 13 tons of bombs.
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Light CAS Plane Rattlesnake - Bomb+

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  Battery
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2840
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-E-D-X
Cost: 139,520 C-bills

Type: Light CAS Plane
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 45

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         Battery                6
Safe Thrust: 3
Max Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity:         3                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         184                   3.5
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          31                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    8     
     Wings                  8/8   
     Aft                     7     


Weapons
and Ammo                      Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control           BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
3 External Stores Hardpoint     BOD     0.6000000000000001   -      -    -    -    - 

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot, Internal Bomb Bay
Rattlesnake Machine gun - Mounts 7 machine guns and a half ton of ammo in the nose bay instead of bombs.
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Light CAS Plane Rattlesnake - Machine Gun

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  Battery
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
     7 Machine Gun
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2840
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-E-D-X
Cost: 201,920 C-bills

Type: Light CAS Plane
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 65

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         Battery                6
Safe Thrust: 3
Max Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity:         3                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         157                   3.0
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          31                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    8     
     Wings                  8/8   
     Aft                     7     


Weapons
and Ammo                      Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
7 Machine Gun                   NOS       3.5      0      2    0    0    0 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control           BOD       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
3 External Stores Hardpoint     BOD     0.6000000000000001   -      -    -    -    - 
Machine Gun Ammo (100)          BOD       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot, Internal Bomb Bay
Rattlesnake Minelayer - Bit on the expensive side but carries a recon camera and 7 vehicular minelayers allowing it to be used to rapidly set up minefields as deemed necessary.
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Light CAS Plane Rattlesnake - Minelayer

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  Battery
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2840
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-E-E-X
Cost: 379,520 C-bills

Type: Light CAS Plane
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 101

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         Battery                6
Safe Thrust: 3
Max Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity:         3                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         184                   3.5
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          31                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    8     
     Wings                  8/8   
     Aft                     7     


Weapons
and Ammo                      Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
7 Vehicular Mine Dispenser      NOS       3.5      -      -    -    -    - 
Recon Camera                    NOS       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control           BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
3 External Stores Hardpoint     BOD     0.6000000000000001   -      -    -    -    - 

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot, Internal Bomb Bay

Rattlesnake Scout - Carries a recon camera and 7 remote sensor dispensers allowing an sensor network to be created.
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Light CAS Plane Rattlesnake - Scout

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  Battery
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2840
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-E-D-X
Cost: 726,720 C-bills

Type: Light CAS Plane
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 45

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         Battery                6
Safe Thrust: 3
Max Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity:         3                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         184                   3.5
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          31                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    8     
     Wings                  8/8   
     Aft                     7     


Weapons
and Ammo                      Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
7 Remote Sensors/Dispenser      NOS       3.5      -      -    -    -    - 
Recon Camera                    NOS       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control           BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                  BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
3 External Stores Hardpoint     BOD     0.6000000000000001   -      -    -    -    - 

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot, Internal Bomb Bay
Rattlesnake Rocket - Mounts 8 rocket launcher 10s.
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Light CAS Plane Rattlesnake - Rocket

Mass: 30 tons
Frame: Unknown
Power Plant:  Battery
Armor: BAR 5
Armament:
     8 Prototype Rocket Launcher 10
Manufacturer: Unknown
     Primary Factory: Unknown
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2840
Tech Rating/Availability: C/X-F-X-X
Cost: 350,720 C-bills

Type: Light CAS Plane
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Experimental)
Tonnage: 30
Battle Value: 165

Equipment                                          Mass
Engine                         Battery                6
Safe Thrust: 3
Max Thrust: 5
Structural Integrity:         3                       
Heat Sinks:                   0                       0
Fuel:                         157                   3.0
Cockpit                                               3
Armor Factor (BAR 5)          31                      1

                           Armor   
                           Value   
     Nose                    8     
     Wings                  8/8   
     Aft                     7     


Weapons
and Ammo                         Location   Tonnage  Heat   SRV  MRV  LRV  ERV
8 Prototype Rocket Launcher 10     NOS       4.0      3      6    6    0    0 
SV Chassis Mod                     BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
Advanced Fire Control              BOD       0.5      -      -    -    -    - 
SV Chassis Mod                     BOD       0.0      -      -    -    -    - 
3 External Stores Hardpoint        BOD     0.6000000000000001   -      -    -    -    - 

Features the following design quirks: Easy to Maintain, Easy to Pilot, Internal Bomb Bay
The Rattlesnake rocket, scout and minelayer are example designs. The vehicular minelayer equipment and remote sensor dispenser were made to have the same dimensions as an RL-10 rocket pod meaning they can freely be mixed and matched as needed before the unit is installed in the nose bay.

I also have conceptually an LRM-5 armed version with either 2 tons of ammo or one ton and 2 RL-10 and an SRM 6 armed one with 1 ton of ammo. I wouldn't use them though so they only exist in thought.

Also are there rules on recharging battery powered units? Because while I know there are rules on refueling craft with actual fuel in the battery powered ones they are part of the craft. My concept in mind is that they are hooked up to a Fission engine powered craft for recharging. I am aware that there are very few battery powered canon craft so there may not be such rules.

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #44 on: 04 December 2024, 04:21:44 »
+1 for using Recon Cameras! :)

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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #45 on: 09 December 2024, 15:25:59 »
liking the Rattlesnake a lot.
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Re: Ideas for improved and economical units for lower tech Worlds.
« Reply #46 on: 10 December 2024, 08:04:54 »
Trailer Hitch . 50 ton trailer can have 6 LRM 10s 8 tons of ammo and armor . Between smoke and fascam you can shape a battlefield. If doing hidden units in a city a trailer with 10 iOS SRM 6s .

 

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