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Minion ATV "Angel"
« on: 25 May 2015, 04:47:16 »
Inspired by a comment over on the current VotW thread about the stock Minion having to choose to spot or shoot on the more ECM-rich battlefields of later days, here's a basic refit idea of mine that essentially just does a simple weapon swap losing the pulse bonus for greater range...and then adds a little something extra on top.

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Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle (Angel)

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3076
Cost: 1,976,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 615

Power Plant:  95 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  ER Medium Lasers
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
    1  Angel ECM
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       8 points                2.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                 95                       4.50
    Cruise MP:  9
    Flank MP:   14
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     28       
                                          Left/Right   22/22       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Medium Lasers                           FR        10        2         2.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          BD        0         1         1.00
Angel ECM                                    BD        0         1         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 6
9h         1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: C3S, AECM, ENE

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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #1 on: 25 May 2015, 05:24:01 »
I had a similar idea to that, but went a slightly different direction.

Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle (BC3)

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3145
Cost: 2,282,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 593

Power Plant: Nissan 135 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 118.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 183.6 km/h
Armor: Mujika StarGlare Laser-Reflective
Armament:
    2 Ceres Arms ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Ceres Metals Industries
    Primary Factory: Tikonov
Communications System: Overlook J-9 with Boosted C3 Slave
Targeting and Tracking System: Brightstar 17 Mk.II

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       8 points                2.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             135                       4.00
    Cruise MP:  11
    Flank MP:   17
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.00
Armor:              Laser-Reflective             AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     30       
                                          Left/Right   24/24       
                                                Rear     18       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 ER Medium Lasers                           FR        10        2         2.00
C3 Boosted Computer (Slave)                  BD        0         1         3.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 6
11h        1       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: C3BSS, ENE



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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #2 on: 25 May 2015, 05:24:46 »
Here's one I did up as a dedicated scout hunter.

Minion Advanced Tactical Vehicle (VSPL)

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Hovercraft
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3145
Cost: 1,652,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 453

Power Plant: Nissan 135 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 118.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 183.6 km/h
Armor: Mujika StarGlare Laser-Reflective
Armament:
    1 RAMTech 5500V Medium VSPL
Manufacturer: Ceres Metals Industries
    Primary Factory: Tikonov
Communications System: Overlook J-9
Targeting and Tracking System: Brightstar 17 Mk.II with Targeting Computer

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                       8 points                2.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             135                       4.00
    Cruise MP:  11
    Flank MP:   17
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            2.00
Armor:              Laser-Reflective             AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     30       
                                          Left/Right   24/24       
                                                Rear     18       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Medium VSPL                                  FR        7         1         4.00
Targeting Computer                           BD        -         1         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 5
11h        2       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: ENE


"Deep down, I suspect the eject handle on the Hunchback IIC was never actually connected to anything. The regs just say it has to be there."
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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #3 on: 25 May 2015, 05:50:54 »
Mm...okay, I'll admit, I didn't think of going all XL and stuff right away. Just some retooling of already existing lines. :) I was considering going the boosted C3 route myself for a bit, though; I just figured that since C3B still gets blocked by Angel ECM I'd get more flexibility out of just mounting one of those myself for the same weight, either for ECCM purposes or where that should prove unnecessary for some creative jamming of my own. (I suppose C3B has some more perks at tables where the ECCM rules just aren't used, although I don't know how many of those there are considering they're in the very same book as both C3B and AECM.)

Bit unsold on that scout hunter; as I've mentioned in the VotW thread, I see a lot of the Minion's primary value in actually acting as a spotter with some backup guns, which that model (like the canon TC one) forswears in favor of just trying to hit things. Now a 9-point hit at -4 at knife-fighting ranges is nothing to sneeze at, there are plenty of 'Mechs on which that will go internal on a rear torso somewhere...but with only the ability to deliver a single one of those each turn it's literally rather a one-trick pony.

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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #4 on: 25 May 2015, 06:32:59 »
Yeah, I'll fully admit that the second one is more about panache than efficiency.


"Deep down, I suspect the eject handle on the Hunchback IIC was never actually connected to anything. The regs just say it has to be there."
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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #5 on: 25 May 2015, 06:44:46 »
Yeah, I'll fully admit that the second one is more about panache than efficiency.

Mm. It does remind me that I really should get around to experimenting with VSPLs more, though. I've always kind of liked the concept, but when it comes to actual construction I always seem to reflexively gravitate towards either X- or standard pulses instead anyway. Need to rectify that.

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Re: Minion ATV "Angel"
« Reply #6 on: 28 May 2015, 13:20:18 »
Heavy electronics seems to start about 3062 and reached the high point at the end of the Jihad 3080ish then goes on a down turn 3085 since the WoB went away , along with the incentive to field a lot of ECM . From what I have seen from the Republic to the Dark Age the fan designs have far more than the official TROs . The prevalence of them seems to be to nearly the 3062 period . Combined arms with Artillery and  Battle Armor I expect TAG to be desirable than C3 of any kind.

 

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