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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #720 on: 31 October 2017, 16:32:47 »
a lack of smaller but still capable warships.
Small is relative. The "core fleet" for the above German "littoral mid-intensity flotilla" is composed of ships (F125, MKS180) the physical size of an Arleigh Burke actually. The F125 in particular doesn't carry that much more armament than a LCS - okay, it does - it just spreads that out over a much bigger hull. With a crew one-third of a Burke, electronics maybe two-thirds as capable and plenty of room to spare - though a lot goes into putting even all the enlisted in 4-bunk (!) rooms.
The MKS180, its future bigger brother (slated at up to 9000 tons), basically just adds a VLS with some ESSM and designated space for modules much like on LCS. Except that module space is probably as big as an entire LCS by itself...

It's a pity there aren't many pictures around showing a F125 together with another ship for size comparison (nevermind the so far classified designs for the MKS180).

Here's one though: F222 Baden-Württemberg (F125) with F221 Hessen (F124) in Wilhelmshaven; another F124 in the background.



While I don't think the USN will "buy foreign" I would think the Danish Absalon and Iver Huitfeldt classes would seem about a perfect solution.
OMT will sell the design pretty cheaply, it's not exactly like the shipyard that designed them and "built" them for the Danish Navy - or the two sweatshop shipyards in Eastern Europe where they were actually built - is still around anymore anyway.

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« Reply #721 on: 31 October 2017, 19:23:18 »
While I don't think the USN will "buy foreign" I would think the Danish Absalon and Iver Huitfeldt classes would seem about a perfect solution.
My understanding, from a conversation a few years ago, is that those ships are built to a near commercial standard and don't suit the damage control requirements of a warship.  I don't know for certain, though.

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« Reply #722 on: 31 October 2017, 19:33:00 »
If my memory serves me correctly, the LCSs Frigates are also built to commercial not warfighting standard . . .
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« Reply #723 on: 31 October 2017, 20:02:54 »
I wonder why we don't take that design attitude with other things, like building tanks to commercial vehicle spec instead.
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« Reply #724 on: 31 October 2017, 20:33:11 »
The LCS is more or less. I don't believe that's supposed to be the case with the new frigate design, but I could be wrong.  Not sure where the National Security Cutter falls, either, a variant of which is on the running for the new USN frigate.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #725 on: 01 November 2017, 02:39:25 »
sorry no picture, but... 5-inch gun plus saboted railgun slug equals nearly Mach 6...!

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #726 on: 01 November 2017, 03:32:38 »
It's not a "saboted railgun slug" - it's a regular subcaliber projectile fired from it. Similar to Leonardo's Vulcano, with about the same characteristica too (as Vulcano BER, an unguided sabotted 90mm subcaliber round for 127mm and 155mm tubes). With the difference that Vulcano is available as a guided projectile too. And Vulcano BER weighs a tad more (10%) for more effect at range in lieu of speed.

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« Reply #727 on: 01 November 2017, 06:15:37 »
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #728 on: 01 November 2017, 07:08:46 »
HMS Severn has been retired.  She a Patrol Ship (OPV) vessel, who came in commission with the Royal Navy in 2003.  She only 15 years old. 

Does the UK Navy always cycle through their ships so fast? I know they don't leave ships in commission for long, but it seems to be bit short of a career.  I realize obsoletion is a thing, but this is essentially patrol boat, not a Frigate. Is it sort keep the economy stimulated and shipyards busy?



 

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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #729 on: 01 November 2017, 07:39:30 »
Oh, boy.

The board-friendly account - the UK's fiscal difficulties means an ultra-tight defence budget directly affecting ship and sailor numbers; no fleet expansion is possible at this time. Due to contractual agreements to preserve shipbuilding capability 3 Rivers Batch 2 were built and will replace the Batch 1s starting this year. They are much more capable OPVs being kitted out with the best sensor fit possible though still only armed with a 30mm RWS and a helideck, no hangar.

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« Reply #730 on: 01 November 2017, 07:57:49 »
kitted out with the best sensor fit possible
The Terma Scanter 4100 on the Batch 2 Rivers is nothing unusual. The equivalently-sized Danish Knud Rasmussen OPVs fit the same outfit plus X-Band fire-control radar (for their ffbnw ESSM); the far larger Dutch Hollands with their I-Mast 400 easily outstrip both in capability.
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« Reply #731 on: 01 November 2017, 08:24:27 »
I wonder if Severn will be mothballed or sold off. I imagine there's plenty of smaller navies that would pay good money for a solid 21st century OPV that's only recently lost its new-warship smell.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #732 on: 01 November 2017, 08:48:17 »
The Terma Scanter 4100 on the Batch 2 Rivers is nothing unusual. The equivalently-sized Danish Knud Rasmussen OPVs fit the same outfit plus X-Band fire-control radar (for their ffbnw ESSM); the far larger Dutch Hollands with their I-Mast 400 easily outstrip both in capability.
AFAIK (ie only as an interested civilian observer),  "best possible" in this case means best possible without major redesign, fitting only what BAE was immediately prepared to fit.

Would be cool to have the Martlet missile added to that 30mm gun tho


I wonder if Severn will be mothballed or sold off. I imagine there's plenty of smaller navies that would pay good money for a solid 21st century OPV that's only recently lost its new-warship smell.
Good question. There's no shortage of need for more antipiracy hulls here in the SEA for sure. But defence money is tight all over and there might be need to adapt the boats to tropical waters.

Probably some UK-friendly UAE state like Bahrain might shell out for the lot. Oh yes maybe Chile or Brazil too.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #733 on: 01 November 2017, 08:59:27 »
Not Brazil. Their financial status post-Olympics is rough enough that I'd be surprised if they went warship-shopping. Particularly since they're not exactly in an imminent-threat situation.
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« Reply #734 on: 01 November 2017, 09:04:06 »
My understanding, from a conversation a few years ago, is that those ships are built to a near commercial standard and don't suit the damage control requirements of a warship.  I don't know for certain, though.


Interesting. I wonder if the ships are considered somewhat disposable in the event of a "hot" war in the Baltic and whether the crews are expected to have time to get off or are also considered disposable. In the wider-world of maritime security, evacuating people from places having revolutions/uprisings and anti-piracy I would expect the lack of damage control to be less of an issue as they shouldn't be facing anything that can harm the hull.

HMS Severn has been retired.  She a Patrol Ship (OPV) vessel, who came in commission with the Royal Navy in 2003.  She only 15 years old. 

Does the UK Navy always cycle through their ships so fast? I know they don't leave ships in commission for long, but it seems to be bit short of a career.  I realize obsoletion is a thing, but this is essentially patrol boat, not a Frigate. Is it sort keep the economy stimulated and shipyards busy?



 




Oh, boy.

The board-friendly account - the UK's fiscal difficulties means an ultra-tight defence budget directly affecting ship and sailor numbers; no fleet expansion is possible at this time. Due to contractual agreements to preserve shipbuilding capability 3 Rivers Batch 2 were built and will replace the Batch 1s starting this year. They are much more capable OPVs being kitted out with the best sensor fit possible though still only armed with a 30mm RWS and a helideck, no hangar.


I wonder if Severn will be mothballed or sold off. I imagine there's plenty of smaller navies that would pay good money for a solid 21st century OPV that's only recently lost its new-warship smell.


From memory these ships were leased by the RN from the manufacturer (Vosper Thornycroft I think) rather than bought and as the manufacturer then went and made a better version for someone else straight after I suspect there may also have been an element of buyer's remorse about these ships from the get-go.


The RN also seems to generally prefer to have the slower smaller vessels have anti-mining capabilities so while there are only 3-4 OPVs there are a lot of minehunters and minesweepers.


Compared to most equivalent or peer navies, I feel the RN has a tradition and on going role of distant patrolling and commerce protection for the size. The other European powers tend to be more focused on local protection or at least only deploying to where there are friendly bases while the USN is 1) huge and 2) feels more built around large multi-ship expeditionary or strike forces. The SSNs are the best tool for this sort of cruising in a lot of ways but suffer sometimes from their lack of visibility in the same way that their invisibility means that we can have them potentially be in lots of places and no one will know until the torpedo, Harpoon or Tomahawk hits.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #735 on: 01 November 2017, 09:19:37 »
Not Brazil. Their financial status post-Olympics is rough enough that I'd be surprised if they went warship-shopping. Particularly since they're not exactly in an imminent-threat situation.
Plus they already have three Amazonas-class corvettes that are based on the River-class, but with extra guns (2x25mm and MGs)
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« Reply #736 on: 01 November 2017, 09:27:24 »
Plus they already have three Amazonas-class corvettes that are based on the River-class, but with extra guns (2x25mm and MGs)


Hey, those piranhas are fierce and the ships need a solid array of light autocannon for self defence
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #737 on: 01 November 2017, 10:21:18 »
In the wider-world of maritime security, evacuating people from places having revolutions/uprisings and anti-piracy I would expect the lack of damage control to be less of an issue as they shouldn't be facing anything that can harm the hull.
German frigates, including the above F125 with its MIO focus intended specifically for those kind of missions run a two-island concept - doubling all electronics between forward and aft superstructure so that the ship can continue operating in case one superstructure is incapacitated in an attack. With F125 this is particularly heavily used, with the radar surfaces for the main radar spread over both forward and aft mast (thus keeping up partial coverage), an EO sensor system for 360-degree surveillance buried down into the hull instead of the superstructure, as well as doubling all energy and cooling systems and all combat and ship operating spaces between forward and aft island.


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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #738 on: 01 November 2017, 10:50:57 »
HMS Severn has been retired.  She a Patrol Ship (OPV) vessel, who came in commission with the Royal Navy in 2003.  She only 15 years old. 

Does the UK Navy always cycle through their ships so fast? I know they don't leave ships in commission for long, but it seems to be bit short of a career.  I realize obsoletion is a thing, but this is essentially patrol boat, not a Frigate. Is it sort keep the economy stimulated and shipyards busy?



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« Reply #739 on: 01 November 2017, 19:32:00 »
I also get the impression that the Batch 2 vessels that are replacing them are larger and more capable as well (probably closer to what the RN would like those boats to be capable of).
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« Reply #740 on: 01 November 2017, 20:27:55 »
This is from wiki about Batch 2 River Class OPV.
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Re: Naval Pictures Forecastle: Laying siege to the poop deck!
« Reply #741 on: 02 November 2017, 06:46:13 »
Interesting. I wonder if the ships are considered somewhat disposable in the event of a "hot" war in the Baltic and whether the crews are expected to have time to get off or are also considered disposable. In the wider-world of maritime security, evacuating people from places having revolutions/uprisings and anti-piracy I would expect the lack of damage control to be less of an issue as they shouldn't be facing anything that can harm the hull.

A few thoughts:

No ship is considered disposable, even the Oliver Hazard Perry's, which are infamous for this. It is acknowledged, however, that losses are going to occur, and every navy would rather lose a frigate than a destroyer, a destroyer over a cruiser and a cruiser over a carrier, it's all about numbers at that point. I'm reminded of a quote from the movie War of the Roses "Divorce is like a war, there's no such thing as winning, only varying degrees of losing".

Lots of things can harm the hull, most of them are pretty cheap too. For the record, however, hull integrity requirements in modern vessels are all set to civilian requirements, most of them cover leaks and discharges, not impact resistance. Modern vessels aren't armoured, as this was expensive and ultimately pointless. The only real advantage warships tend to have, in terms of survival, is more water tight bulkheads and generally duplicated power and cabling. Most warships can have around six or seven power configurations to prevent total loss even if two major engineering compartments are lost. Ultimately though, ships are somewhat fragile in the modern era, with only some old dinosaurs still possessing armour. The LCS, from my understanding, has kevlar layering on the inside of the hull and superstructure to protect crew and equipment in the event of a small arms engagement, something pretty well unthinkable 20 years ago.

In the event of a major conflict against a parity opponent, every modern navy will be scrambling wildly for the old textbooks. We have all grown up on a steady diet of littoral combat, MIO and HADR, not blue water combat. There are many lessons willfully forgotten, which are really only useful in a parity conflict. Most navies still practice these procedures, but only half-heartedly, which will make the next major blue water conflict tragic indeed.

The RN also seems to generally prefer to have the slower smaller vessels have anti-mining capabilities so while there are only 3-4 OPVs there are a lot of minehunters and minesweepers.
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Compared to most equivalent or peer navies, I feel the RN has a tradition and on going role of distant patrolling and commerce protection for the size. The other European powers tend to be more focused on local protection or at least only deploying to where there are friendly bases while the USN is 1) huge and 2) feels more built around large multi-ship expeditionary or strike forces. The SSNs are the best tool for this sort of cruising in a lot of ways but suffer sometimes from their lack of visibility in the same way that their invisibility means that we can have them potentially be in lots of places and no one will know until the torpedo, Harpoon or Tomahawk hits.

The RN has a lot invested in the seas, and the quickest way to neuter them would be mine their ports, which is a lot cheaper and easier to do than clearing said mines, hence why the RN has such a large MCM capability. Somewhat similar to Australia. :-)
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« Reply #742 on: 02 November 2017, 10:29:17 »
This is from wiki about Batch 2 River Class OPV.


Those extra four knots of speed will compensate for having three hulls instead of four

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« Reply #743 on: 02 November 2017, 11:02:54 »
Those extra four knots of speed will compensate for having three hulls instead of four

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« Reply #744 on: 02 November 2017, 12:24:24 »
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« Reply #745 on: 02 November 2017, 18:37:34 »
The QE looks weird from the back.
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« Reply #746 on: 02 November 2017, 19:09:19 »
not sure if 2 carriers running next to each other, or 1 QE boat....  :P
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« Reply #747 on: 02 November 2017, 19:32:55 »
That angle reminds me of two gold retrievers sticking their heads out of window of a car.
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« Reply #748 on: 02 November 2017, 19:40:18 »
She’s got HUGE...tracts of landing space.

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« Reply #749 on: 03 November 2017, 06:17:41 »
Plans are being made by the US Navy to use production of the Columbia Class SSBN as basis for the eventual replacement for the Ohio-Class SSGNs that are on the verge of retirement.

I do think it's great idea.  Given the stagnation going on in development of replacement platforms in my view of getting right ship made for the job.  Navy formed a committee who discussed the matter and frankly the write up in the USNI's article on it was impressive to a no-body civilian like me. I served and always watched navy development as hobby.

In the mean time, their discussing using a additional mid section being slipped into the upcoming Virginia Class SSNs they got scheduled.
 

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