Partisan (PPC)

[Retry]

Built to showcase the issues of the AC/5.

Simply swapping the quad AC/5s for twin PPCs in this design, without any engine changes at all, results in the same overall damage and range brackets for a lighter weight by a half ton despite extra heat sinks and capacitors.  That half ton can be put into the armor.  Still thin skinned, but not quite as ridiculously so.  The Partisan PPC is also cheaper than the standard variant (which is 1,866,600 C-Bills).

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Partisan Heavy Tank (PPC)
Mass: 80 tons
Movement Type: Tracked
Power Plant: 240 ICE
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
     2 PPC
     2 Machine Gun
Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 2791
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-C-D-D
Cost: 1,787,400 C-bills
Type: Partisan Heavy Tank
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 80
Battle Value: 748
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure 8
Engine 240 ICE 23
     Cruising MP: 3
     Flanking MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 20 20
Control Equipment: 4
Power Amplifier: 1.5
Turret: 1.5
Armor Factor: 104 6.5
Internal
Structure Armor
Value
Front 8 28
R/L Side 8/8 20/20
Rear 8 16
Turret 8 20
Weapons
and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
Trailer Hitch Rear 0 0
2 Machine Guns Front 2 1
Half Machine Gun Ammo (100) Body 1 0.5
2 PPCs Turret 6 14

[KaiserDunk]

Kind of a faux-Schrek; why not swap the air defense targeting system on a Schrek and get the third PPC as a variant?

[Retry]

Kind of a faux-Schrek; why not swap the air defense targeting system on a Schrek and get the third PPC as a variant?

The Partisan (PPC) is more than twice as cheap as a Schrek.

[kaliban]

the original Partisan has an use as AA tank with Flak ammo, otherwise choose something else. The AC/10 is a better alternative for ICE tanks, as the Zhukov can show.

About the Schrek, you can convert the exist design to a 3/5 ICE by removing one PPC. It is a better alternative than the AC5 variant of the Schrek

[Retry]

the original Partisan has an use as AA tank with Flak ammo, otherwise choose something else. The AC/10 is a better alternative for ICE tanks, as the Zhukov can show.

About the Schrek, you can convert the exist design to a 3/5 ICE by removing one PPC. It is a better alternative than the AC5 variant of the Schrek

If you go with AC/10s instead of PPCs you'd end up with a Zhukov.  Which isn't a bad thing, but it's shorter ranged and still more expensive than the PPC Partisan, not to mention ammo costs.

You could do that, convert the Schreck by substituting SFE for an ICE and removing a PPC.  But then you'd end up with what's basically... a PPC Partisan.

[kaliban]

Zhukov is a strange design. I never understood the SRM6 in the front location. The tank is too heavy for just 2 AC10s e become too expensive.

I play a lot with an own design of 65 tons and 2 AC10. The cost drops to 1.3M C-bills.

[Rockjock]

I've always liked the idea of having two series of tanks, basically 80t ICE and 80t SFE that took the place of the Demolisher, Screk, Partisan, and Rhino/SturmFeur.   ICE is the cheaper unit, with the SFE being used to outfit the best units, especially in the Succession Wars era.


You also have to remember when designs were originally built/designed.  4 shots with ACs on the original Partisan had a better change at critting a fighter/VTOL then 2 shots with PPCs, even without flak rounds.   ACs were also considered easier to build/repair/maintain vs an energy weapon.  Remember, places like the FWL had trouble building PPCs fluff wise.

The Zhurkov SRM launcher makes sense as a crit seeker after the AC makes big holes.   

[kaliban]

The Zhurkov SRM launcher makes sense as a crit seeker after the AC makes big holes.

If you don't take in to account that it is 15ton weight increase and a huge amount of c-bills just for a SRM6, I could agree with you

[Daryk]

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You also have to remember when designs were originally built/designed.  4 shots with ACs on the original Partisan had a better change at critting a fighter/VTOL then 2 shots with PPCs, even without flak rounds.   
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Now that you mention it, I have to wonder if all the standard 3025 fighters would have a threshold higher than 5 if converted to Ferro-Aluminium armor...

[Rockjock]

kaliban,  I didn't say it was efficient lol.  Battletech has a tendencies to have so many designs that make no real sense within the rules.