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Sabelkatten

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #90 on: 05 May 2020, 04:27:30 »
Heh, I've been trying to come up with an interesting twin-LL design lately myself. Kept running into the problem of "it's too much like a Zhukov!". Never thought of actually making it a Zhukov variant. :thumbsup:

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #91 on: 05 May 2020, 04:44:31 »

The Lumiere has been built in the FS for use on well-populated planets since the SL era. With less than impressive mobility it has never been intended for front-line use, but it has seen heavy use against the occasional DC offenses.

A very similar tank, the WLC-9 "Lightbringer", has also shown up in the LC and FWL since the 2900s. Speculations about industrial espionage has flourished the whole time, however most military historians conclude that it is simply inspired by the original vehicle.

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Lumiere wheeled tank

Mass: 45 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-C-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 619,850 C-Bills
Battle Value: 550

Power Plant:  160 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Large Laser
    1  LRM-5
    1  Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      25 points                4.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                160                      12.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             8                         8.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          0.50
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 120                  7.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     31       
                                          Left/Right   26/26       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
Large Laser                                  T         8         1         5.00
LRM-5                                        T         2         1         2.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 6
4w         2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/2/1)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #92 on: 05 May 2020, 11:05:35 »
The Lumiere has been built in the FS for use on well-populated planets since the SL era. With less than impressive mobility it has never been intended for front-line use, but it has seen heavy use against the occasional DC offenses.

A very similar tank, the WLC-9 "Lightbringer", has also shown up in the LC and FWL since the 2900s. Speculations about industrial espionage has flourished the whole time, however most military historians conclude that it is simply inspired by the original vehicle.

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Nice. I've gone for the same combination of LL, MG and small missilepack for the main medium tank in my fic (fuel cells for the win!), but I wonder if making it a wheeled tank would help in urban environments.
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Sabelkatten

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #93 on: 05 May 2020, 14:16:23 »
IIRC tracks still get the road bonus? Wheels are mostly about cost IMHO, thought the weight savings can be noticeable on an ICE vehicle. :)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #94 on: 05 May 2020, 19:19:18 »
Heh, I've been trying to come up with an interesting twin-LL design lately myself. Kept running into the problem of "it's too much like a Zhukov!". Never thought of actually making it a Zhukov variant. :thumbsup:
Here's another solution for you: Blazer Cannon!  :D

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #95 on: 05 May 2020, 20:21:45 »
Here's another solution for you: Blazer Cannon!  :D
Hm. Basically allows you to upsize the launcher to an SRM6 again. Or, to give it a bit more main-tankery (it has a MG. Totally a MBT):

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Zhukov (Blazer)

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-E-E-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 1,541,313 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,568,813 C-Bills
Battle Value: 845

Power Plant:  225 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Binary Laser Cannon
    2  SRM-4s
    1  Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                225                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                       16.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 160                 10.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     35       
                                          Left/Right   32/32       
                                              Turret     36       
                                                Rear     25       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Binary Laser Cannon                          T         16        1         9.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
2 SRM-4s                                     T         6         2         4.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@SRM-4 (25)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 8
3t         3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/3/0, SRM 1/1/0), SRM 1/1/0
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #96 on: 05 May 2020, 20:30:06 »
Not bad, though the mention of SRM-6 threw me for a minute when I saw you had 2 SRM-4s on there...

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #97 on: 06 May 2020, 02:11:23 »
Well, it's not introtech any longer... But it's a tank with a Blazer cannon, so I'll have to let it pass. :D

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #98 on: 06 May 2020, 19:24:24 »
Another in the series "Tanks For Oiks What Cannae Afford An UrbanMech":

The "unwanted son" of the Lightspeed family, the Clemens was an urban garrison tank made as part of the settlement between Lightspeed Ltd. and Mackenzie and Sons. The designer hated it, especially as they had to lend techs to Mackenzie to build the chassis. Worse, they had to attach the Lightspeed name to a wheeled internal-combustion-engined combat vehicle without the energy weapons, standard safety features and thick armour their customers had come to expect.

Despite their distaste and grumbling about "low-endurance ammo bombs", it was an inexpensive substitute for an UrbanMech, and the stringent quality control and low-maintenance components endeared it to customers who would otherwise have ordered a Hetzer.

The single main weapon is a turreted Imperator B AC/10 with a single ton of ammo, while a Lightspeed MG with half a ton of ammo warns off any infantry. 6 tons of StarSlab II is spread evenly over the front, sides and turret, with only the rear unable to stand up to an AC/20 shot.

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Clemens Urban Tank CL-UT1

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-D-D-A
Production Year: 3030
Cost: 467,063 C-Bills
Battle Value: 440

Power Plant: Mackenzie 120 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: StarSlab II Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Imperator B Autocannon/10
    1 Lightspeed Machine Gun
Manufacturer: Lightspeed Ltd./Mackenzie
    Primary Factory: Wynn's Roost
Communications System: Lightspeed ComCtrl
Targeting and Tracking System: Lightspeed Ballistic

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                120                       8.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  96                  6.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     21       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     20       
                                                Rear     15       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/10                                T         3         1        12.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
@AC/10 (10)                                  BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 4
4w         2       1       0       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/1/0, AC 1/1/0), AC 1/1/0
« Last Edit: 07 May 2020, 06:33:30 by acksed »
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #99 on: 06 May 2020, 19:40:38 »
Heh... the midpoint between the Scorpion and the Hetzer… nice!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #100 on: 08 May 2020, 19:31:07 »
[deleted original, didn't read OP asking for tanks]

A forgotten machine, this ancient Tiger has been repurposed as a basic anti-air platform, with a new turret capable of elevating its two Deleon AC/5 autocannon to 70 degrees, and holding a ton of ammunition each.

The protection was unchanged, though the Quantum Heavy standard plate was exchanged for cheaper SimplePlate when the old armour's durability proved suspect.

Thankfully, this version still has the third revision of the electronics that allowed for limited targeting of aircraft with the autocannon.

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Tiger T12AA

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-D-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 948,083 C-Bills
Total Cost: 957,083 C-Bills
Battle Value: 537

Power Plant: Veridian 220 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor: SimplePlate Standard Armor
Armament:
    2 Deleon Autocannon/5s
Manufacturer: Veridian Dynamics
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Tordar Communications Model C
Targeting and Tracking System: Sabik Microsystems Model K9-Tb

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                5.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                220                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 104                  6.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     24       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     24       
                                                Rear     16       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Autocannon/5s                              T         2         2        16.00
@AC/5 (40)                                   BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
4t         1       1       1       0      2     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1, AC 1/1/1), AC 1/1/1

Quirks: Anti-Air Targeting
« Last Edit: 09 May 2020, 16:00:00 by acksed »
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #101 on: 14 May 2020, 17:51:15 »
Pesky infantry and tanks attacking your position? LRM carrier busy seeing off the nearest Kuritan mech? SRM carrier showing them the meaning of fear? You need a Missile Carrier Guard! Its spread of simple, proven technology will ensure that any squishy, or rolly metal box, will have a bad day.* Best of all, as it shares parts with its lance-mates, it's economical too!**

*Bad day not guaranteed.
**Commonality of parts not guaranteed. Prices may rise due to vagaries of supply. Quikcell reserves the right to substitute parts wherever possible.
May require transport to combat zone. Ammunition not included. Inferno requires waiver of indemnity and may invalidate warranty regardless. Contact your nearest Quikcell representative for details.


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Missile Carrier Guard

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-D-D-A
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 1,376,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,432,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 841

Power Plant: InterCombust 180 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: SimplePlate Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Deleon Autocannon/10
    1 Holly LRM-10
    1 Holly SRM-4
    2 Armstrong Machine Guns
Manufacturer: Quikcell
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: SquawkBox
Targeting and Tracking System: HitBox

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                180                      14.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 168                 10.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     41       
                                          Left/Right   33/33       
                                              Turret     34       
                                                Rear     27       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Autocannon/10                                T         3         1        12.00
LRM-10                                       T         4         1         5.00
SRM-4                                        T         3         1         2.00
2 Machine Guns                               T         0         2         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50
@LRM-10 (12)                                 BD        -         0         1.00
@AC/10 (20)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-4 (Inferno) (25)                        BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 8
3t         3       3       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/3/1, AC 1/1/0), AC 1/1/0, IF 1
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #102 on: 09 June 2020, 15:56:53 »
Discovered in a backwater militia that was so small it did not have a name, this adapted a native heavy wheeled APC into something that could - just - provide fire support against light tanks.

To put it more bluntly, some madman with a welder cut off the top half of the APC, rebuilt the structure to hold a Scorpion turret and, when the engine had to be taken out to spare the suspension, mated a civilian car engine to a transmission built to move a 20-ton armoured vehicle. It is not known where the unnamed tech obtained the armour plate, but its patchwork nature suggests it was battlefield salvage.

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Technical Scorpion

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-D-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 240,167 C-Bills
Total Cost: 245,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 263

Power Plant:  40 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: Patchwork Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Deleon Autocannon/5
    1 Armstrong Minigun Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                2.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 40                       2.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  64                  4.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     16       
                                          Left/Right   11/11       
                                              Turret     15       
                                                Rear     11       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 3
3w         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #103 on: 09 June 2020, 16:09:11 »
Heh, making something cheaper than Quickscell is sure popular. :)  A nitpick, thought - the Scorpion's MG is front-mounted.

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #104 on: 09 June 2020, 16:50:06 »
Isn't the Heavy Wheeled APC's also front mounted?  ???

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #105 on: 09 June 2020, 16:57:19 »
It was deliberate, since it can take an extra half-ton without affecting the weight of the turret, and the unnamed tech decided it could use the flexibility.
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #106 on: 09 June 2020, 20:28:21 »
Discovered in a backwater militia that was so small it did not have a name, this adapted a native heavy wheeled APC into something that could - just - provide fire support against light tanks.

To put it more bluntly, some madman with a welder cut off the top half of the APC, rebuilt the structure to hold a Scorpion turret and, when the engine had to be taken out to spare the suspension, mated a civilian car engine to a transmission built to move a 20-ton armoured vehicle. It is not known where the unnamed tech obtained the armour plate, but its patchwork nature suggests it was battlefield salvage.

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Technical Scorpion

Mass: 20 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-D-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 240,167 C-Bills
Total Cost: 245,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 263

Power Plant:  40 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: Patchwork Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 Deleon Autocannon/5
    1 Armstrong Minigun Machine Gun
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      10 points                2.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                 40                       2.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         1.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  64                  4.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     16       
                                          Left/Right   11/11       
                                              Turret     15       
                                                Rear     11       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/5                                 T         1         1         8.00
Machine Gun                                  T         0         1         0.50
@AC/5 (20)                                   BD        -         0         1.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      2    Points: 3
3w         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  1
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)

So how long before Quickcell starts selling these themselves
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #107 on: 10 June 2020, 05:31:49 »
So how long before Quickcell starts selling these themselves.
Five months for the patent filing, seven before the cease-and-desist order is served to the militia, and it's on the books as an "Urban Defence" option within a year.
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #108 on: 10 June 2020, 05:38:45 »
Doesn't Quickscell also make APCs? They ready to start production!

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #109 on: 10 June 2020, 09:50:22 »
Heck, just sell it to anyone else except the Militia of that parents planet! Problem solved...

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #110 on: 11 June 2020, 22:04:28 »
This may have been done before, but what the hell.

An off-the-books option offered by Quickcell, the genesis of the Madainn ("morning") was a Scots enclave who lived on a Backwater planet of the Free Worlds League. An improvisation born of the simple expedient of 'running out of missiles', the original builder simply stacked as many Medium Lasers as she could find in a turret on a gutted LRM Carrier. The token LRM5 served mainly as a smokescreen delivery system, to better conceal it and its lancemates.
The result was almost akin to the Ontos, and about 80% as effective for half the cost. Though less damaging than either missile carrier, it was much cheaper to keep fed, and any mech or vehicle that was ambushed by one would come out distinctly worse for wear.
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Madainn ML Carrier

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-A
Production Year: 0
Dry Cost: 1,217,600 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,247,600 C-Bills
Battle Value: 751

Power Plant: InterCombust 180 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: ProtecTech Standard Armor
Armament:
    6 Martell Medium Lasers
    1 Holly LRM-5
Manufacturer: Quickcell
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                180                      14.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             18                       18.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 128                  8.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     30       
                                          Left/Right   25/25       
                                              Turret     27       
                                                Rear     21       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6 Medium Lasers                              T         18        6         6.00
LRM-5                                        T         2         1         2.00
@LRM-5 (24)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 8
3t         4       4       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(4/4/1)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #111 on: 12 June 2020, 02:19:33 »
Neat! :)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #112 on: 13 June 2020, 07:31:39 »
"Fasolt" was a customised Demolisher in the service of a medium-sized Lyran militia that came to the attention of Trellshire Heavy Industries in 3009. Based on the original quad-tracked chassis, it adapted the sensors, radar guidance and weaponry from a Quickcell LRM carrier, the techs fabricating a whole new turret to mate the three Farfire LRM20 launchers to the turret ring. The four tons of ammunition gave it 'legs' as short as its mother, though it often carried its own reloads to the battlefield.
At the time of its discovery it had been a project of the militia for over ten years: the electronics spliced into the loom refused to play well with the original Demolisher's suite, creating ghost targets and false returns that sometimes caused mid-air collisions. The solution to that took advantage of the already long chassis and set each launcher in a toppled-monolith configuration, one behind the other in the turret, but offset at a 4-degree angle. The ghost targets remained, though.
Though the armour was lighter than its parent at eight tons, it still distinguished itself with its ability to shrug off hits that would have wrecked a normal carrier, with clever placement and the reduced need to stand and fight maximising its chances.
It is probably not a coincidence that, after buying the rights to the design, Trellshire would come out with its SturmFeur several years later.

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Demolisher "Fasolt" LRM Carrier

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-A
Production Year: 2997
Dry Cost: 2,457,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 2,577,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,085

Power Plant: GM SuperLoad 240 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: Durandal 160 Standard Armor
Armament:
    3 Farfire LRM-20s
    1 Hitch
Manufacturer: Aldis Industries
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Omicron 5000
Targeting and Tracking System: Omicron VII

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                8.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                240                      23.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    3.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 128                  8.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     33       
                                          Left/Right   21/21       
                                              Turret     33       
                                                Rear     20       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hitch                                        RR        -         1         0.00
3 LRM-20s                                    T         18        3        30.00
@LRM-20 (24)                                 BD        -         0         4.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 11
3t         2       3       3       0      4     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(2/3/3, LRM 1/3/3, IF 1/3/3), LRM 1/3/3, IF 3

Quirks: Sensor Ghosts
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #113 on: 13 June 2020, 09:39:46 »
A possible alternative would be to scrape up a LRM15 somewhere, then you could just swap the AC/20s and ammo for LRM20s and ammo, with the leftover tons going to the LRM15 with one ton of ammo. :)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #114 on: 23 June 2020, 02:36:56 »
During the wars a number of old Brutus assault tanks lost their engines due to battle damage, lack of maintenance, or engines being stripped for use on mechs. To keep the vehicles in service they were often refitted with diesel engines, thought this reduced their low speed even further and required a downgrade of their missile armament.

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Brutus assault tank ICE

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Introductory
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-D-C-A
Production Year: 0
Cost: 1,565,375 C-Bills
Battle Value: 829

Power Plant:  150 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 21.6 km/h
Flanking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    2  Large Lasers
    4  LRM-5s
    4  SRM-2s
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                150                      11.00
    Cruise MP:  2
    Flank MP:   3
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                       16.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 136                  8.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     34       
                                          Left/Right   27/27       
                                              Turret     27       
                                                Rear     21       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 SRM-2s                                     FR        8         4         4.00
2 Large Lasers                               T         16        2        10.00
4 LRM-5s                                     T         8         4         8.00
@LRM-5 (48)                                  BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-2 (50)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 8
2t         3       4       2       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(3/3/2, LRM 1/1/1, IF 1/1/1), LRM 1/1/1, IF 1

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #115 on: 24 June 2020, 18:33:17 »
A PPC variant of the Zhukov was briefly considered, to the point of a prototype being built, but the biscuit-tin armour and lack of close-range weaponry was the antithesis of an assault tank, and it was shelved. It nevertheless inspired some local refits, and some of the later Zhukov updates incorporated a hybrid engine, which made charging a powerbank for energy weapons much simpler. An interesting PPC/AC/10 combination was also found.
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Zhukov (PPC)

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Advanced Rules
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-A
Production Year: 3039
Dry Cost: 1,756,563 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,756,563 C-Bills
Battle Value: 735

Power Plant: GM 225 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: Arcshield Max I Standard Armor
Armament:
    2 Donal PPCs
Manufacturer: Aldis Industries
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Olmstead 30a
Targeting and Tracking System: Cirxese ChargeChecker Alpha

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                225                      20.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             20                       20.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Power Amplifiers:                                                          1.50
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 104                  6.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     26       
                                          Left/Right   20/20       
                                              Turret     21       
                                                Rear     17       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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2 PPCs                                       T         20        2        14.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 7
3t         2       2       2       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: ENE, EE, TUR(2/2/2)
« Last Edit: 24 June 2020, 18:45:36 by acksed »
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #116 on: 25 June 2020, 02:39:15 »
Well, it's got more armor than a weapons carrier... ;)

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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #117 on: 09 July 2020, 06:38:25 »
Created for export, the Espontono fire-support tank trades some of the Pike's durability for firepower, while competing favourably with Quickcell's AC/2 carrier on build quality, durability and flexibility. Its four Mackenzie TwoShot AC/2 with its three tons of ammo give it adequate endurance and range.

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Espontono AC/2 Carrier

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-D-D-A
Production Year: 3025
Dry Cost: 1,052,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,055,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 566

Power Plant: Mackenzie 180 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: StarSlab II Standard Armor
Armament:
    4 Mackenzie TwoShot Autocannon/2s
Manufacturer: Lightspeed Ltd.
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Lightspeed ComCtrl
Targeting and Tracking System: Lightspeed OptoTrak

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      30 points                6.00
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                180                      14.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 120                  7.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     28       
                                          Left/Right   24/24       
                                              Turret     24       
                                                Rear     20       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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4 Autocannon/2s                              T         4         4        24.00
@AC/2 (135)                                  BD        -         0         3.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 6
3t         1       1       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1)
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #118 on: 06 September 2020, 18:41:23 »
This rare Chevalier tank was spotted deep in the Outworlds Alliance. When the interviewer asked, they discovered that the mercenary company was using a stripped hulk straight from the days of the Amaris Civil War. With a hybrid engine to power the electrical transmission, its advanced electronics and sensors were, by all accounts, fully functional, though the tanktech we were directed towards showed us its logbook, which resembled a novel with its detailed notes of how the increasing number of glitches in the ancient tank were quashed and worked around.
The armament was long-gone, quite possibly taken when the SLDF garrisoning the planet abandoned it at Kerensky's call. The great-great-grandfather of the tech's wife had taken advantage of the polymorphic firmware used to simplify SLDF field refits, and convinced it that an Archer's FarFire 15 LRM15 launcher was connected to the same trigger and power supply as the dual Streak SRM2 launchers, but used the backup targeting optics of the ERLL to acquire the target. This did mean the launcher was initially unable to fire indirectly, but the logbook showed some fascinating workarounds. The single-ton ammo load was unable to be increased, and the bulk of the engine meant that a whole ton of armour had to be left off on top of that. Despite this, it has given sterling service in scouting and fire-support for over two hundred years. After photographs of the logbook, and a group photo of the tanktech's surviving family surrounding "Seeky", we thanked them for their time.
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Chevalier (ICE)

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/X-C-C-A
Production Year: 2769
Cost: 470,979 C-Bills
Battle Value: 516

Power Plant: GoClean Hybrid 190 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Flanking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor: SimplePlate Standard Armor
Armament:
    1 FarFire 15 LRM-15
Manufacturer: Millennium Industries
    Primary Factory:
Communications System: Dec-10 Whisperer
Targeting and Tracking System: Blankenburg Trooper

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      20 points                3.50
Engine:             I.C.E. Engine                190                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  6
    Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             0                         0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         2.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.00
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV -  88                  5.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     22       
                                          Left/Right   17/17       
                                              Turret     18       
                                                Rear     14       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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LRM-15                                       T         5         1         7.00
@LRM-15 (8)                                  BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      3    Points: 5
6w         1       1       1       0      1     0   Structure:  2
Special Abilities: EE, TUR(1/1/1), IF 1
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Re: Smokin' tanks!
« Reply #119 on: 07 September 2020, 04:37:55 »
You managed to keep it at 6/9 with a useful armament, that's pretty impressive. :) I had to drop it to 5/8.