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BattleTech Player Boards => Fan Art => Topic started by: Eriance on 16 April 2011, 11:10:16
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Found out the old CBT forums got nuked, so i'll start a new thread. Haven't drawn any BT stuff (or much of anything) due to school. This is the only new BT thing I have that is new - the Lei Shen (Chinese for "Thunder God").
(http://i.imgur.com/UQfVi.png)
Not finished yet. Gotta redesign the lower legs so the ankles aren't all locked up, upon other things. Was originally meant to be a helicopter, but turned into a 'mech after the helicopter failed to take shape. :(
No loadout yet. Probably some ER-Large laser, 2 ER Medium Lasers, a LPPC w/ Capacitor + Armor, and 2 LBX-somethings. Has jump jets. No idea on the weight either. I'll have open up Solaris Skunk Werks later to mash together something.
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Very nice work. I really like the scale to the figures. Look to be a high end medium or a heavy at the lower end of the spectrum, in terms of mass.
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Looking good O0
This is what I came up with based on your post:
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Cool, thanks. :D
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...About time to hear from you again, Eri. Looking forward to more.
...You might be sad to know, the AU project I was working on is running into MORE art problems - people of Deviantart don't even bother returning e-mails when they learn of my pittance of a budget. I haven't gone to tattoo artists yet, but its getting close.
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A thing of beauty!!! I love it!
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...You might be sad to know, the AU project I was working on is running into MORE art problems - people of Deviantart don't even bother returning e-mails when they learn of my pittance of a budget. I haven't gone to tattoo artists yet, but its getting close.
I'm sorry to hear that :(. Unfortunately, I probably can't help you out, since I've enrolled in organic chemistry and lab during the summer vacation #P. I've also a illustration book art stuff lined that will use the remainder of my time. Unless you can use sketched 'mech art I've already made (like the Lei Shen here), I'm afraid I won't have much to give you. :-\
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Hum...I really dig this guy E, but from the knees down it feels like the design style took a different turn.
Looking forward to the end result, and what you do with the ankles.
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I'm sorry to hear that :(. Unfortunately, I probably can't help you out, since I've enrolled in organic chemistry and lab during the summer vacation #P. I've also a illustration book art stuff lined that will use the remainder of my time. Unless you can use sketched 'mech art I've already made (like the Lei Shen here), I'm afraid I won't have much to give you. :-\
...That's ok - a pointer in the right direction was all I asked for. After all, we all need to make an income - I'm just waiting to look at more of the art from TRO: 3063. There's a couple mechs in there I'd like to have minis of. Sounds like life's getting busy for you, good luck!
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No mechs, but got some vehicle sketches I did for practice. Although non are really specifically made for BT (SSW don't have any vehicle editing :( ), i guess someone can convert them easy enough.
(http://i.imgur.com/iuKWt.png)
Planning to donate these to Steve's 3063 if he needed them.
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More great work Eriance. I especially like the fighter.
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Eriance is back! Par-tay par-tay!
...Anyway, Lei Shen reminds me of something... (Other than the Stone Rhino, with that rounded body and big dorsal) ...but I just can't put my finger on what exactly it reminds me of...
Anyway, good to see your designs are coming back!
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Eriance is back! Par-tay par-tay!
...Anyway, Lei Shen reminds me of something... (Other than the Stone Rhino, with that rounded body and big dorsal) ...but I just can't put my finger on what exactly it reminds me of...
Anyway, good to see your designs are coming back!
Maybe the Osprey? That's what I thought of.
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...but I just can't put my finger on what exactly it reminds me of...
A Marauder? That's what it was supposed to be (custom design with the X-tech) before I changed the name so I don't get sued. :D
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...Good grief - Eri, that helicoptor... that gun is just WAY too big. Throws the scale right out.
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Love the Lei Shen, The helicopter look's manga to me ( Appleseed or Ghost in the Shell ). 8)
Your drawing's rock. [rockon]
keep it up.
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...Good grief - Eri, that helicoptor... that gun is just WAY too big. Throws the scale right out.
It's a UAC/5. Given that it's an 9-ton weapon (heavier than most helicopters), I'd assume it has to be pretty damn huge. You can blame BT's weapon masses. ;D
The helicopter look's manga to me ( Appleseed or Ghost in the Shell ). 8)
I'm going for a more anime/manga look to set my stuff apart from canon art. :)
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I think the gut cannon on the helo is about spot on for BT. It reminds me a little of the Hellhound in Patlabor 2.
I really dig the line quality on that fighter... [cheers]
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Well considering that many AC-5s are firing hypervelocity 50 to 80mm shells, with 120mm being not unheard of in this class range, the size is not to disconcerting.
The counter recoil apparatus is probably going to have to be Farly hefty as well to handle the recoil...
The helicopter and Fighter look quite good though.
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So, a Rotary AC/5 is 6 50mm barrels mounted on a Gatling-style platform?...beastly. :D
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I think the Legionnaire's RAC5 was described as 6, 55 mM barrels in the one DA novel I read. They do have to be able to lob 1/3 ton of munitions down-range per turn O0
Cheers,
LCC
PS Gorgeous work as always. The chopper looks like a sexier Hawk Moth or Yellow Jacket.
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So, a Rotary AC/5 is 6 50mm barrels mounted on a Gatling-style platform?...beastly. :D
Yes, they can be 50mm or even 80mm, IIRC one of the novels mentions (endgame, start of the novel) the 7F Jagermech having an 80mm RAC-5.
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All I can say is : [drool] [drool] [drool] [notworthy]
Nice job...
Got any ideas for APCs with towed stuff? Would love to see some of them...
TT
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Got any ideas for APCs with towed stuff? Would love to see some of them...
Oooh, yes. My favorite AU tech is the Grapeshot APC - 1/3 of a ton of missile ammo per 'cassette' on a 5-ton trailer... Nevermind. Absolutely, a tractor-trailer combo. It amazes me how few people twig to just how useful they are.
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The fighter planes look like Veritech fighters.... Don't think that'd fly. lol
(http://www.joegarrepy.com/robotech_images%5Cbioroid_alpha_fighter.gif)
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Donated and recycled some tanks in my sketches pile to be used for Centurion's 3063 TRO.
(http://i.imgur.com/pNHE6.png)
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:o Shen Khane looks like a Abrams on HGH, great stuff! [rockon]
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I want to do unspeakable thinks to that sexy attack chopper. Unspeakable I tell you!
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Hey now thats a sweet looking mechride, i likes it very much.
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I like your artwork, just BT enough but with a bit of Robotech (RPG) and a bit of Japanese BT to wet the appetite. Any chance we'll see that attack helicopter as inked lineart?
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I threw the Helicopter sketch out. Didn't really like how It looked after really looking at it for a while. The body was kind of bent and the only all design was a bit whacky. I have a new one designed, though, although only roughly sketched.
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Do you mind if I do a design for the Lei Shen? I quite like it.
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Design as in weapons/equipment load? Or a 3D model? I made the following, which SSW tells me overheats like crazy:
Tech: IS
Weight: 65 Tons
Engine: 260 Light
-Heat Sink: 16[32]
Movement: 4/6/4
Internal Structure: Endo-Composite
Gyro: Compact
Cockpit: Torso-Mounted
Armor: 11.5 tons Light Ferro-Fibrous
Weapons and Equipment:
-L-PPC w/ Capacitor (Turret) - H
-Case II - H
-ER Large Laser - LA
-2 ER Medium Lasers - LA
-SN-PPC w/ Capacitor - RA
-Jumpjet - LT/RT/LL/RL
You can make whatever design you what, however, although know that the finished art will reflect the build I have here.
Donated this to Centurion13's fan-made TRO. Was an old sketch just sitting around with no use.
(http://i.imgur.com/HEKsz.png)
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I was just talking about designing the stats. I did a 100 ton build with 3/5/3 movement, called the dorsal gun a light gauss that is in the left torso on paper (like the marauder AC/5), the two gatling guns are RAC/2s, and the left arm energy weapon is a heavy PPC, with a small pulse laser mounted underneath.
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(http://i.imgur.com/HEKsz.png)
Nice
lets see it seems to have a pair of missile launchers under the wings, a pair of auto cannons above the wings and possibly what looks like a laser cannon in that turret looking thingy under the cockpit.
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This is kind of um...yeah........
(http://i.imgur.com/HEKsz.png)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5093856594_cf0c832ed4.jpg)
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Ok, and Your point being...?
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I'm not seeing that much of a similarity.
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Ok, and Your point being...?
It's pretty close. Especially when considering the lawsuit(s) HG have filed in the past blocking even the re-seen images from being used. Of course, I'm no lawyer. Just noticed a visual similarity.
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I do not see much of a similarity, sure theirs a little bit, but their quite different, the engine layout is different as is the wings, the mid fuselage is also noticeably different as is the cockpit area.
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Personally, I think the only similarities are covered by the fact that aircraft tend to have to have a lot of the same physical structures in order to be able to fly and be controllable in the air.
Eriance's design has fixed wings, the model shown has variable geometry wings, eriance's has rudders, the model shown does not, probably the only really strong similarity I see between them is the general shape of the nose and cockpit area, and the fact that they both have canards, but almost any plane has that same general shape in the nose and cockpit area.
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Amused by notion of Legioss' wings being just canards :)
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It's pretty close. Especially when considering the lawsuit(s) HG have filed in the past blocking even the re-seen images from being used. Of course, I'm no lawyer. Just noticed a visual similarity.
Perhaps this will offer a new perspective on just dissimilar the two designs are.
(http://i.imgur.com/0CwoQ.png)
On the left, the Mospeada Legioss + the Booster unit. On the right, mine. The differences are obvious, and any similarity outside the fact that they booth look like fat planes is trivial. I mean, just look at the right amount of right angles the Mospeada plane has compared to mine.
For one, my plane isn't even part of the Canon Battletech universe, nor was it bought by CGL to be published as such. It was a recycled plane that I based off of a failed sketch of the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter. It doesn't transform like a variable fighter/LAM, nor does it carry a gun. That alone means HG has no case other than to annoy. So Unless HG somehow managed to copyright "jet fighter" under their intellectual properties umbrella, I don't see what they have to sue for. ::)
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The one subject of aerospace fighters, I found this lying around.
(http://i.imgur.com/6WHg3.png)
Was originally planned to be the 'Warthog" - a Battletech version of the A-10, but the previous attempt had a myriad of perspective problems. I corrected most of the issues I could last night. I have no written stats for this thing other than RAC-5, 2 Large Pulse Lasers, 2 MML-7s, 4 RL-20s, 2 ER Medium lasers (R), 2 AMS and a targeting computer; Not even sure if it will fit on the plane within BT rules.
Most of my failed sketches wont see the light of day unless someone had some use for it. If someone has a similar A-10-based design and needed art for it, let me know the weapons load so I can make some adjustments to the drawing and ink it. The image may then be used as long as it and the design remain open to public use and not sold for profit.
Send me a PM or just write it up here.
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...It needs a turret. I realize They aren't supposed to support one, but WTH.
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I like the 'hawg' drawing. It's a nice change from most ASF's.
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The one subject of aerospace fighters, I found this lying around.
(http://i.imgur.com/6WHg3.png)
Was originally planned to be the 'Warthog" - a Battletech version of the A-10, but the previous attempt had a myriad of perspective problems. I corrected most of the issues I could last night. I have no written stats for this thing other than RAC-5, 2 Large Pulse Lasers, 2 MML-7s, 4 RL-20s, 2 ER Medium lasers (R), 2 AMS and a targeting computer; Not even sure if it will fit on the plane within BT rules.
Most of my failed sketches wont see the light of day unless someone had some use for it. If someone has a similar A-10-based design and needed art for it, let me know the weapons load so I can make some adjustments to the drawing and ink it. The image may then be used as long as it and the design remain open to public use and not sold for profit.
Send me a PM or just write it up here.
Yes you can fit most of it on, I droped the rockets, but they can be used as external ordnance so no real loss.
I used a 5/8 85 ton aircraft with an XL engine to fit it all.
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Are there other weapons I can put on BT aircraft other than the mech weapons? I mean, like pylon-mounted missiles that are single-shot (like real-life missiles)? Or bombs?
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Are there other weapons I can put on BT aircraft other than the mech weapons? I mean, like pylon-mounted missiles that are single-shot (like real-life missiles)? Or bombs?
Yes. Tactical Operations has them. Air-air missiles, singular Arrow IVs and other goodies.
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All aerospace fighters get free hardpoints (aka bomb slots) during construction, the number of which is equal to its tonnage divided by 5 (rounded down).
As for weapons, there are the already mentioned Rocket pods, 0.5ton fuel pods, bombs, TAG pods, Arrow IV missiles, the Air-to-Air Arrow Missile (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Air-to-Air_Arrow_Missile), the Anti-Ship Electronic Warfare Missile (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anti-Ship_Electronic_Warfare_Missile), the Anti-Ship Missile (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anti-Ship_Missile). I think there are some more, but I can not remember off the top of my head. Can't remember if you can mount the one-shot versions of regular missile lanchers externally either.
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Is one-shot missile launchers even worth putting on a mech/vehicle? I mean, they weight the same as the normal missile launcher, but an additional 0.5 tons just for 1 volley. I mean for 0.5 ton more, I would rather have a single ton of ammo. I'm not seeing what the advantage is.
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...Think rocket launcher - check sarna battletechwiki for the details if you don't have your books handy.
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the RL-20 is only 1.5 tons. It's one-shot and +2 hit is offset by the benefit of reduced weight. I'm asking, say, why one-shot LRM-20s would be used when it cuts weight only by 0.5 tons.
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the RL-20 is only 1.5 tons. It's one-shot and +2 hit is offset by the benefit of reduced weight. I'm asking, say, why one-shot LRM-20s would be used when it cuts weight only by 0.5 tons.
Yes, one shots for most 'mech type missile launchers suck, but that's a weird artifact of the construction rules, i.e. OS missiles existed before rocket launchers were introduced into the game. Realistically, they were only meant to be used on small launchers when ammo/heat sink concerns limited what you can carry, and you still had tonnage left over. So they make slightly more sense
in the 3025 era before all the new goodies, but with rocket launchers in the game, they generally are just an artifact of the older rules, and in particular only relevant to older 'Mechs and vehicles.
As for ASF's, wouldn't bother with any one-shot weapons bolted in. You've got the bomb racks for that- if you go with the 85 ton version that Nebfer figured out, you've got 17 hardpoints to dish out rather serious hurt. I could see this one decked out with say six rocket pods, a TAG module on a hardpoint, and a couple of Arrows (Arrow IVs take up 5 bomb slots), probably a couple of homing Arrows to act as a flying artillery piece for ground support.
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On externals ordinance you can fit
Bombs of a wide verity of types, HE, laser guided, inferno, cluster, mine laying and torpedoes (blue water type)
Theirs fuel tanks, each giving a half a ton of extra fuel.
In missile based ordnance theirs, Light Air to Air missiles, Air to Air arrows, Arrow IV air to ground (laser homing and non homing configurations), Anti-ship missiles (for spacecraft), anti ship electronic missiles (EMP missile) and then theirs the rocket launcher (rocket 10s), you can also mount a TAG pod.
Theirs no real need to use "one shot" launchers for the most part, most of the time that your going to use them, it's due to critical and weight restrictions. Like I can not mount an extra laser (TC and or heat issues), do not have the crits to mount a MG or two and ammo. One shot launchers are not ideal but do allow you to mount something their. In the IS rocket launchers have largely over taken their place.
Though the Clans do not have rocket launchers...
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That 'hog looks Beastly [drool]
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The one subject of aerospace fighters, I found this lying around.
(http://i.imgur.com/6WHg3.png)
Was originally planned to be the 'Warthog" - a Battletech version of the A-10, but the previous attempt had a myriad of perspective problems. I corrected most of the issues I could last night. I have no written stats for this thing other than RAC-5, 2 Large Pulse Lasers, 2 MML-7s, 4 RL-20s, 2 ER Medium lasers (R), 2 AMS and a targeting computer; Not even sure if it will fit on the plane within BT rules.
Most of my failed sketches wont see the light of day unless someone had some use for it. If someone has a similar A-10-based design and needed art for it, let me know the weapons load so I can make some adjustments to the drawing and ink it. The image may then be used as long as it and the design remain open to public use and not sold for profit.
Send me a PM or just write it up here.
I want this in miniature form!
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[stupid]
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Eriance. Never, EVER do you disappoint me with your art. even your self proclaimed art "Failures" such as this A-10 remake...... God Almighty that is a beautiful plane. Please, finish it up and ink it! It deserves that.
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The BT A-10 will be inked once the two people that wanted to use the image give me the stats and I edit the original drawing to fit their respective designs. Haven't heard back from them yet, though.
Here's a new - or rather redesign, of a quad-gauss Clan mech I drew in 2009.
(http://i.imgur.com/FlNk2.png)
Over all, it came out pretty close to how I wanted.
Stats:
Weight: 100 tons
Engine: 300 XL-Fusion
Movement: 3/5/0
Heat Sinks: 10[20]
Internal Structure: Clan Endo-Steel
Weapons and Equipment:
-4 Gauss Rifles (ammo: 6 tons) - LA/RA/LT/RT
-2 ER Medium Lasers - LT/RT
-Er Medium Laser - CT(R)
-Active Probe - H
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[notworthy]
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Rather impressive new work. Keep it up!
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WOW!
I hope you don't mind but Imma use that for a mech one of my freinds made up years ago.
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Now I can't help but wish the DA Malice (IIRC) had been done like that, instead of with the droopy thin barrels ...
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Absolutely gorgeous. It's like Gausszilla meets the Blood Asp at Club 'Mech.
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Someone has pointed out that 4 HAG-20s would be better and would be lighter in weight and possibly allow me to mount other stuff. Which would be better? 4-Hags, 4-Gauss, or 2 of each?
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HAG's are really just overweight LRM's, and I'm not a big fan of LRM's to begin with...
I vote 4 Gauss all the way.
Nice work btw... 8)
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Someone has pointed out that 4 HAG-20s would be better and would be lighter in weight and possibly allow me to mount other stuff. Which would be better? 4-Hags, 4-Gauss, or 2 of each?
I imagine it would depend on you. HAGs split their total damage into groups, while standard GRs are single hits. I imagine a pair of each would both punch holes and then fill them with HAG rounds, but something like LRMs would be cheaper and allow for indirect fire. As it is, Gausszilla needs to be in the open to be effective, and a single hill could offer a defense against his weapons until an opponent could close.
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Wow, love that Leviathan GaussMecha!
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Started to design my own custom versions of the Unseens. I'll begin with the Warhammer and Archer. Did these in Paintchat on a study break.
(http://i.imgur.com/XVlwC.png)
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:o [drool] Crazy awesome! The designs are totally original yet very faithful to the concept of the original designs.
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Not feeling the Warhammer, but definitely feeling the Archer :)
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Wow, looking forward to the final product.
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Whether or not they riff strongly off the Unseen is irrelevant to me ... they both look very nice!
W.
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I thought that was a Riflemen (arms), Though the Archer is definitely their however.
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Warhammer needs lower arm actuators. Other than that, I think you've captured them quite well.
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I'm rather reluctant to add the upper arms to the Warhammer, as It might result in a design far too similar to the Macross Tomahawk Destroid. I rather not have HG barking up my back. :P
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I definitely wouldn't worry about that. There's another thread on this page where the person just straight up drew a Tomahawk.
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More good stuff E! 8)
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I'm rather reluctant to add the upper arms to the Warhammer, as It might result in a design far too similar to the Macross Tomahawk Destroid. I rather not have HG barking up my back. :P
As long as it is original art, i.e. YOU drew it and not traced it, you're fine.
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Actually, these designs are made to be sold in case someone tried to commission me a custom version of the Unseen/Reseens or that I need to distribute these freely for fan usage. Different names would probably be needed as well.
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Well if you want them to be used, I can't afford much, it took me 8 months saving to get my gencon tickets alone. Cash is usually straped for the majority of us gamers Eriance.
But on the other hand, if your freely giving away... I could use the designs for my AU Clan, if you'll allow it. I got stats, but no pics to show, they can be as is. Just asking is all, and that can't hurt much. ;)
TT
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I could probably use both. The Stormbringer, which is a modified Warhammer seen below, is very similar (no lower arm actuators) to the Hammer you drew. The Archer would make an excellent Grenadier for my Clarion Call setting.
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@True Tanker and Takiro: You two may use these when I finished them (gonna be a while, though - school :( ), as with anyone else that wishes to use within the context of Battletech (non-profit use). Sometimes someone will offer to buy the finished version of the art, so they might ask you to remove them later - although they're generally OK with others using the art.
Here are two new ones, the Crusader and the Wasp. Bother should bare enough of the same feel as the Unseen, without looking like them. Again, might need different names.
(http://i.imgur.com/6jHO0.png)
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Crusader is very nice, though Wasp laser barrel is IMO too thin. But I'm more a fan of virtually Battle Armor-esq proportions for the bug 'Mech barrels,
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Good Stuff!
The only thing I would change, put the LRMs over the shoulders in place of the SRMs.
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If I have your permission to use any of what you'll deem as usable as a freeware pic, I will.
Otherwise I won't use without it.
So that means multiple permission slips! #P
And now, is the " Crusader " and " Wasp " available as well?
TT
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All of these custom Unseens is understand my usual policy - as long as no one buys the final piece, you may use them freely as long as I'm credited. This goes for pretty much all my previous mech pieces as well (with a few exceptions being my "signature" mechs). :D
EDIT: Two more - Rifleman and Phoenix Hawk (the PH came out a bit too Japanese, maybe, oh well, my favorite so far).
(http://i.imgur.com/rCmHx.png)
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I like the PH, Always thought it should look more like the cover mecha of Armor Core 2: a sleek and sexy angel of death. 8)
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I really like the arms and the cockpit+chin turret on the Rifleman - my favorite of your unseen so far.
Cheers,
LCC
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Fun fact: Shoji Kawamori did mecha design for both Armored Core and Macross.
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Last two for today - Valkyrie and Griffin.
(http://i.imgur.com/1HrD6.png)
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Nice! [rockon]
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Aye! {>{> [applause] All very well done!
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Hey, I have a mech I would love to see a pic for if you wish to do it that is.
Not a commission though, as I am always perpetually broke, but if you want to tackle it let me know.
Thanks!!!!
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Very impressive work! Im jealous. I wlways wished i could draw but ive tried and im terrible T_T. Decent at painting models though ^_^
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That Crusader rulez. With a "Z". Well done!
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Hey, I have a mech I would love to see a pic for if you wish to do it that is.
Not a commission though, as I am always perpetually broke, but if you want to tackle it let me know.
Thanks!!!!
I'm generally reluctant to take any form of requests, since I know from experience, that if I deliver on one request, everyone will start asking. Elaborate on your idea, if it proves interesting and inline with my own path of practice, I will do so. If not, then I won't. No guarantees here. :P
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Info sent, thanks!!!
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Another two custom Unseens - Battlemaster and the Longbow. The BM is probably my best so far, but the LB came out rather
fat. :(
(http://i.imgur.com/aLZdB.png)
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Nice I like that longbow! I love anything with tons of missles!
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BattleMaster is very nice and many ways the Reseen taken to the next level.
The Longbow's "sensor-pod" thing looks very much like a VF-1 head, to me at least.
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The original Longbow was based on the macross Phalanx, yah? Pretty sure it had a sensor pod similar to that, so I kept the general idea. I'll probably change it on the second attempt. I'm rather displeased with how fat it came out.
Here is the first attempt at BBlaney's Omni Mech. Didn't come out the way I want it, so will most likely redo it tomorrow. I do like the arms and the upper legs, though, so will probably keep those. And the jet-vents to the sides.
(http://i.imgur.com/7v10s.png)
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Like the latest one, interested to see what you will do with it.
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Like the latest one, interested to see what you will do with it.
Agreed, want to see what it finally becomes, is a great start.
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Custom Scorpion, Ostsol and Ostroc. Added a current to the weapon's area of the Scorpion to make it more versatile in combat (despite BT rules). used some Zendraedi battlepod influences for the two Ost-mechs. Hopefully the designs are more than different enough to keep HG off my back. :D
(Note: Mechs are not scaled)
(http://i.imgur.com/s1TL8.png)
EDIT:
Made a second attempt at Bblaney's Omni mech - came out pretty close to what I saw in my head.
(http://i.imgur.com/0AW2B.png)
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Ost-Mechs are much closer to what I think of when they say walker-pod, while the Omni looks beefier now
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Eriance you are doing fanatic drawing there. Please, Please keep up the good work.
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I like the mech dude !
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That Battlemaster is sweet...
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Very nice man, thanks!!!!!
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two more - Wolverine and Locust.
(http://i.imgur.com/4GIPJ.png)
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Mmmm, Battlemaster and Wolvie...
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Definitely getting a BattleMaster vibe off the Wolverine...
Also liking the more fighter jet nosed Locust too
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It looks like you drew a little turret under the nose of the locust, but I think it should be accentuated.
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It looks like you drew a little turret under the nose of the locust, but I think it should be accentuated.
Nope - that's the actuators on the far leg. The Locust's ML turret is that little blister-turret above and behind the cockpit, on the 'Mech's spine - you can tell by the way it matches the ML bulb-turret below and before the Wolvie's cockpit. ;)
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Nope - that's the actuators on the far leg. The Locust's ML turret is that little blister-turret above and behind the cockpit, on the 'Mech's spine - you can tell by the way it matches the ML bulb-turret below and before the Wolvie's cockpit. ;)
I think you're right. A locust needs an under-body turret, IMO.
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There is an underbody curret, it's right below the nose (i guess it's kinda hard to see? ???). Not as big as the one of the Unseen one, though. But it's just a media laser, I want to keep scaling as consistent as possible without violating the "rule of cool".
The Bulb on top is just a optical sensors pop, like on tanks.
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There is an underbody curret, it's right below the nose (i guess it's kinda hard to see? ???). Not as big as the one of the Unseen one, though. But it's just a media laser, I want to keep scaling as consistent as possible without violating the "rule of cool".
The Bulb on top is just a optical sensors pop, like on tanks.
Haha, damnit, I was right the first time!!
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I really like the Locust; it was always my favorite light 'Mech.
I think you're right. A locust needs an under-body turret, IMO.
I do agree with this, though.
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There is an underbody curret, it's right below the nose (i guess it's kinda hard to see? ???).
Yeah, it kind'a gets lost against that back leg - as I mentioned above, I took it for detailing of the leg actuators.
Not as big as the one of the Unseen one, though. But it's just a media laser, I want to keep scaling as consistent as possible without violating the "rule of cool".
In that case, should I take it that the arm-mounted MGs looking big enough to be a species of rotary autocannon is "rule of cool" in action? :P
The Bulb on top is just a optical sensors pop, like on tanks.
With a canopy that large and granting such phenomenal visibility to the pilot, does it really need an optics turret? Remembering how limited 'Mech sensors are in canon, I don't see it adding much to the baseline Locust's scouting capability - unless it represents an advanced model, one with an Active Probe of some sort?
I'm not trying to be difficult - in fact, I was hoping to yoink this very Locust for one of my own projects - but I'd just like to get the details nailed down, so I can understand the awesome as well as marvel at it. :P
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Given how small the Locust is (mind that the mechs aren't scaled very well right now), the MG would be around 6-feet long, based on the cockpit size. Since I understand that Mech MGs can go up to the size of vulcan cannons, which too, is around 6-feet long, so I'd say the scale is about right. I can't scale it 100% accurate from mech to mech without 3D modeling, that and BT mech seems to have a giant spectrum of sizes for the same weight. So pretty much, if it looks good and is relatively reasonable, I stick with it.
As for the optical sensor, while true that the pilot has a wide viewing range, he's still looking at the targets by sight - limited by his own vision in the human eye's visual band. The Optical sensor would provide enhanced range (zooming) and night-vision and other wavelengths of viewing. I'd imagine it would be slaved to his helmet, like the Avionics helmets in the F-22, to give him added combat awareness.
And yes, the gun pod below is lose in the details after I had to move the upper torso back, in photoshop. I drew it in the wrong location in paintchat. :P
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The under-body gun has almost always been a medium laser, however.
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And it is here. 2 MGs and a ML.
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Sorry, I misinterpreted what you were saying about weapon sizes to say that the ML was a MG. My mistake! I like the optical sensor turret, and think it makes sense too.
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This latest series is pretty sweet. Are you intending to clean these up a bit like the others, or is there a long term goal here? If not, are you planning on trying to "fix" the Locust?
Hmmm, I went and looked at your DA account, what happened to all of your Battletech imagery? Something up chief?
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Given how small the Locust is (mind that the mechs aren't scaled very well right now), the MG would be around 6-feet long, based on the cockpit size. Since I understand that Mech MGs can go up to the size of vulcan cannons, which too, is around 6-feet long, so I'd say the scale is about right. I can't scale it 100% accurate from mech to mech without 3D modeling, that and BT mech seems to have a giant spectrum of sizes for the same weight. So pretty much, if it looks good and is relatively reasonable, I stick with it.
As for the optical sensor, while true that the pilot has a wide viewing range, he's still looking at the targets by sight - limited by his own vision in the human eye's visual band. The Optical sensor would provide enhanced range (zooming) and night-vision and other wavelengths of viewing. I'd imagine it would be slaved to his helmet, like the Avionics helmets in the F-22, to give him added combat awareness.
And yes, the gun pod below is lose in the details after I had to move the upper torso back, in photoshop. I drew it in the wrong location in paintchat. :P
Very well. I look forward to seeing the finished version. O0
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This latest series is pretty sweet. Are you intending to clean these up a bit like the others, or is there a long term goal here? If not, are you planning on trying to "fix" the Locust?
Hmmm, I went and looked at your DA account, what happened to all of your Battletech imagery? Something up chief?
They will be inked digitally and then be opened for public usage. All the mistakes that I find will be corrected during this stage. Won't have time to do any of this for a while; not until organic chemistry is over for the summer.
All my monochrome or sketch art have been thrown into my "Scrapbook" folder on deviant art. Since most of my stuff is monochrome, they ended up there. All the battletech stuff are there now. I want to have a more colorful primary gallery. :P
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What term of Ochem are you in? I just finished Ochem last term.
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I dig them all E, but your Longbow is my fav thus far. Looking forward to seeing what you do with a few of the others. [cheers]
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What term of Ochem are you in? I just finished Ochem last term.
I'm taking Organic Chem I right now. So far it's ok, but the summer sessions crams a lot of stuff in just a single day. But on the other hand, I don't have to study very much since it's still fresh in my head prior to exams.
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I love these incarnations of the Unseens... namely because they still try to live to their original namesakes without trying to gussy them all up with the newer variants' stuff while still looking really great! Fantastic work! You make it look easy.
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Holy crap E! these are freakin awesome! I hope to snag the clean/final product of these cause these things are too damn sexy.
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Finished orgo test - think I did pretty well (I hope). back to finishing up the unseens: Only 2 more to go, I think (excluding IIC stuff).
-Stringer and Marauder
(http://i.imgur.com/1LYcz.png)
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Ok, im sold, pls make a refined version of that marauder pweese pweese... cause that one is too damn sexy!
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These are all awesome so far, only the Goliath, the Shadow Hawk, Ostscout and possibly the Marauder II left to complete the "classic" unseen, and I'm sure those will be great too.
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Love the Mad!
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Nice, liking the "danty" stepping Stinger :)
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I believe I only have the Ostscout, Goliath, Shadowhawk, Valkyrie, and Thunderbolt (although the reseen Thunderbolt is badass as it is, imo)? I don't plan on making the IIC mechs at the moment. Also, to make these legal to be used freely, I must also change the names, if someone could help me brainstorm some names, it would be cool. here's my current list.
Battlemaster = Battlelord
Warhammer = Bardiche
Rifleman = Grenadier
Archer = Scorpio
Stinger = Dagger
Wasp = Rondel
Crusader = Paladin
Valkyrie = Aspara
Phoenix Hawk = Garuda
Griffin = Ophan
Scorpion = Dragoon
Ostrol = ???
Ostsol = ???
Ostroc = ???
Longbow = ???
Marauder = ???
Wolverine = ???
Goliath = ???
Locust = ???
Might have to change the weapons load slightly as well.
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I always wanted to take TRO 3025 and update it for the first generation of InnerSphere Omni's. The Battlemaster became the Warlord, the Archer became the Grenadier, the Grasshopper became the Mantis, the UrbanMech became the Citymaster, the Catapult became the Warcat, the Goliath was the Mastodon, the Valkyrie became the Einhenjar, the Stinger became the Mosquito, the Marauder became the Vandal, the Locust became the Swarm, the Wolverine was the Badger, and the Longbow became the Arbalest.
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Ostroc = Ostrich
Ostsol = Emu
Ostrol = Rhea
Longbow = Jaivan (google it)
Marauder = Mongol
Wolverine = Badger
Goliath = David
Locust = Gnat
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Arbalest is already the name for a mech.
Maybe call the Longbow the Yumi?
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Ostroc = Ostrich
:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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That is rich, ost-rich! ;D
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Ostroc = Reaver
Ostsol = Bounty Hunter
Ostrol = Balista
Longbow = Bombard
Marauder = Apachie
Wolverine = Devil Cat
Goliath = Elephant
Locust = Mosquito Hawk
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This has really sparked an idea for a TRO.
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How about the Van series by Van Fleet Industries to replace the Ost series.
Vanguard (Ostscout)
Vanquish (Ostroc)
Vandal (Ostsol)
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Ostroc = Reaver
Ostrol = Balista
The Reaver has already been taken by a custom mech from the Mechwarrior 4 MekPak. Not an official mech yet, although it might be sometime in the future. Don't wanna end up with the same name. The Balista/Ballista is also taken by a canon mech, although no art of it exists on the BT-Wiki.
Thank you all for the contribution. Here is a semi-finalized list:
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LIST OF CUSTOM UNSEEN
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Battlemaster = Battlelord
Warhammer = Bardiche
Rifleman = Saker
Archer = Scorpio
Stinger = Kris - (edited from "Dagger")
Wasp = Rondel
Crusader = Hierophant - (edited from "Paladin")
Valkyrie = Aspara
Phoenix Hawk = Garuda
Griffin = Ophan
Scorpion = Dragoon
Ostscout = Gungnir
Ostsol = Gaebulg
Ostroc = Verutum
Longbow = Hurlbat - (edited from "Bombard")
Marauder = Xiphos
Wolverine = Kampfer
Goliath = Chiron - (edited from "Carabinier")
Locust = Gnat
Shadow Hawk = Peltast
Thunderbolt = Brontes
I have numerous other custom mechs that I plan eventually use for a fan-made TRO. Some of these needs some updated artwork, while most of them should be ok.
IS-Mechs:
-Vicar - (edited from "Myrmidon")
-Sorcerer (art needs update)
-Halberd
-Inquisitor
-Diablo (art needs update)
-Revenant
-Death Incarnate (art needs update)
-Marduk (art needs update)
-Firestorm
-Kappa
-Lei Shen
Clan Mechs:
-Hellknight (Goryo)
-Archon (Typhon)
-Faun (Yurei) - (edited from Satyr)
-Tarasque (edited from "Leviathan")
-Apophis (art needs update)
I however known basically nothing about the lore or of Battletech. If someone is willing to help me write up some fluff, it would be appreciated. If you're interested in teaming up with me, send me a PM or post here.
Note that all the mechs' weapons load are set, so there is no need to design them (weapons load designed to resemble the art). The art is, however, not finalized for some of these, as they are old and require updating; although their general shapes and weapon location won't change.
All the art are located in my Deviantart Gallery.
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LIST OF CUSTOM UNSEEN
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Battlemaster = Battlelord
Warhammer = Bardiche
Rifleman = Grenadier Battle Armor
Archer = Scorpio
Stinger = Dagger Aerospace fighter
Wasp = Rondel
Crusader = Paladin Battlemech
Valkyrie = Aspara
Phoenix Hawk = Garuda
Griffin = Ophan
Scorpion = Dragoon
Ostrol = Gungnir
Ostsol =Gaebulg
Ostroc = Verutum
Longbow = Bombard Solaris Battlemech
Marauder = Xiphos
Wolverine = Kampfer
Goliath = Carabinier
Locust = Gnat
Shadow Hawk = Peltast
Thunderbolt = Brontes
IS-Mechs:
-Myrmidon Tank
-Sorcerer (needs update)
-Halberd
-Inquisitor
-Diablo (needs update)
-Revenant
-Death Incarnate (needs update)
-Marduk (needs update)
-Firestorm
-Kappa
-Lei Shen
Clan Mechs:
-Hell knight (Goryo)
-Archon (Typhon)
-Satyr (Yurei) Protomech
-Leviathan Aersopace Jumpship/Warship
-Apophis (needs update)
TT
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fixed
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That Marauder... [drool] [drool] [drool] [notworthy] [notworthy]
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Coming up with new weapons and equipment loads for these custom "Unseens". Starting with the "Battlelord" (Battlemaster):
Same weight and Movement as before (and without changing the artwork):
16 Double-HeatSinks
16 tons of Standard Armor
Weapons:
1x SNPPC + capacitor - RA
6x LPPCs - LT/RA
1x SMR-6 - LT (ammo: 1 ton)
2x MG - CT (ammo: 0.5 ton)
1x CASE - RT
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Coming up with new weapons and equipment loads for these custom "Unseens". Starting with the "Battlelord" (Battlemaster):
Same weight and Movement as before (and without changing the artwork):
:snip:
Design has three tons left over, provided an XL fusion engine is used. Light fusion engine and endo steel fall in at an even 85 tons, but has two critical spaces over the limit.
Using a Standard engine, 6x ER Medium laser, a HPPC + capacitor, and an ECM suite gets you something that matches the artwork.
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I used an Light engine and and Endo steel.
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Looking at those, I really wish that FanPro knew you when they decided to do Project Phoenix.
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To be honest, I think that Eriance's designs have a bit too many fine details to be appropriate to BT scale.
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Most drawings do... but if they can get about even 50% of the details, that would be fine and dandy.
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Finished orgo test - think I did pretty well (I hope). back to finishing up the unseens: Only 2 more to go, I think (excluding IIC stuff).
-Stringer and Marauder
Nice marauder!
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That Griffin reminds me of the Federation space marine armour from Metroid Prime. Definitely good stuff~
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Eriance, with your permission I would love an opportunity to build that marauder in 3d......
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...Good grief - Eri, that helicoptor... that gun is just WAY too big. Throws the scale right out.
Hmm, I actually think just the opposite; I like the gun, looks like an UAC-2 to me.
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Eriance, with your permission I would love an opportunity to build that marauder in 3d......
Help yourself. :)
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Looking at those, I really wish that FanPro knew you when they decided to do Project Phoenix.
I've seen middle school students draw better-looking machines than what's published in Project Phoenix. That stuff is so juvenile and unbelievable that I have a hard time taking them as "canon."
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I've seen middle school students draw better-looking machines than what's published in Project Phoenixand some of the units from TRO: 3085. That stuff is so juvenile and unbelievable that I have a hard time taking them as "canon."
Fixed. And +1.
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I think we can save the bashing for elsewhere, please. Dislike the art, yes, but try to remember you're talking to one of the people who did it. Respect isn't just the title of a song.
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I think we can save the bashing for elsewhere, please. Dislike the art, yes, but try to remember you're talking to one of the people who did it. Respect isn't just the title of a song.
QFT. A little civility goes a long way.
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I've seen middle school students draw better-looking machines than what's published in Project Phoenix. That stuff is so juvenile and unbelievable that I have a hard time taking them as "canon."
Your negativity is so juvenile it's unbelievable. Compare the PP stuff to almost any of the 3060 or 3067 mechs... yeah, the PP ones are clear winners, in terms of art.
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I never had a problem with the Project Phoenix art. In fact, it's my favorite of all of Lewis' CBT art. I just like some of Eriance's interpretations better. I'm not a fan of the anime style stuff that just looks like battle armor, but the Scorpion, the Ost-Mechs, the Longbow and especially the Marauder are excellent.
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I do say the Ost Series and that Scorpion are very nice, the Marauder is nice, looking intimidating. The P-Hawk, Valkyrie, Battlemaster, longbow and Archer are also good looking.
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Art-blocked as hell, thanks to school. So just inked some old sketches to get some art going to relax. Finished the Lei Shen and Tarasque battlemechs.
(http://i.imgur.com/bBsch.png)
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:o
[drool]
...I'm waiting to see more of your work in TRO: 3063 - and it damn well better show up in the next official TRO. TPTB have been warned.
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OMG, What is the Tarasque packing!!!!
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OMG, What is the Tarasque packing!!!!
Death. Lots of Death...
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OMG, What is the Tarasque packing!!!!
Four goose rifles. :)
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I statted it as (clan tech) 100 tons, 3/5/3, endo steel, XL fusion engine, 10 double heat sinks, 16.5 tons armor, 4 gauss rifles, 2 forward firing ER med lasers, 2 rear firing ER med lasers, and 5 tons of gauss ammo.
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Nasty!
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I statted it as (clan tech) 100 tons, 3/5/3, endo steel, XL fusion engine, 10 double heat sinks, 16.5 tons armor, 4 gauss rifles, 2 forward firing ER med lasers, 2 rear firing ER med lasers, and 5 tons of gauss ammo.
Not quite: I actually managed to put this on the 100 ton clan mech:
-Endo Steel
-300 XL
-10 DHS
-19.5 Tons of armor
-4x Gauss Rifles
-6 Tons of Gauss Ammo
-Active Probe
-ECM Suit
-2 ER Medium Lasers
-Medium Pulse Laser (R)
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I'm guessing you left off the jump jets :D
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Can I has your Osts? Please? :D
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Not quite: I actually managed to put this on the 100 ton clan mech:
-Endo Steel
-300 XL
-10 DHS
-19.5 Tons of armor
-4x Gauss Rifles
-6 Tons of Gauss Ammo
-Active Probe
-ECM Suit
-2 ER Medium Lasers
-Medium Pulse Laser (R)
Sweet jeebus! Cold1's characters loves the gossss gun. Blood Asp needs a big brother.
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I'm guessing you left off the jump jets :D
Never had any to begin with. ;)
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Yeah, there aren't any jump jets in the art, but they can be pretty well hidden, and I just like 3/5/3 assaults. The Highlander IIC is pretty much my favorite mech ever.
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Ok, I love the Leviathan / Tarasque so a couple of questions for Eriance. Could I use it for one of my novels? If so I would like to fluff it out for the 3050 time frame. Question two can I make it an OmniMech? Would love to see if I could fit 4 ER PPCs, ER Large Lasers, Large Pulse Lasers, LB-Xs, and/or Ultra ACs. ;)
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[applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] Both mechs look dead sexy. You did an awesome work!
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Death. Lots of Death...
Bring the pain
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I've always been an anti-retcon guy (though I never suffered from RR- Retcon Rage), I must confess---I could see myself supporting a retcon based your designs because they're awesome and faithful to the original concept yet unique as well. Very well done.
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[rockon] Very nice. Some of the best mecha designs I've ever seen. I salute your artistry.
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Ok, I love the Leviathan / Tarasque so a couple of questions for Eriance. Could I use it for one of my novels? If so I would like to fluff it out for the 3050 time frame. Question two can I make it an OmniMech? Would love to see if I could fit 4 ER PPCs, ER Large Lasers, Large Pulse Lasers, LB-Xs, and/or Ultra ACs. ;)
You may use the art as long as it's not being sold or marketed as your own, and that I'm credited for the image. :)
I have a rough sketch of another Tarasque-based mech called the "Moloch" with 2 ER Large Pulse Lasers, and 4 LBX-10s. Perhaps you can wait for that one to be finished.
BTW, what's a "RetCon"? ???
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You may use the art as long as it's not being sold or marketed as your own, and that I'm credited for the image. :)
I have a rough sketch of another Tarasque-based mech called the "Moloch" with 2 ER Large Pulse Lasers, and 4 LBX-10s. Perhaps you can wait for that one to be finished.
BTW, what's a "RetCon"? ???
A retcon is when the writers of a series say one thing early on, then ****** up later and change the canon to reflect what they want. It's fairly common in any long running series.
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Alternatively, it's what some people say when there's been a gap in the history, and the writers later create material in that gap which doesn't meet with their approval. It's an oft-misused phrase.
Saying that "In 3025, all Marauders looked like X", where X wasn't a copy of the Officer Pod Glaug from Maxross, would be a retcon.
Saying "Downgraded Star League 'Mechs like the Crab were also available in 3025", or saying "Primitive 'Mechs like the Hector or Icarus existed prior to 3025" are not actually retcons.
See the (occasionally subtle) difference?
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You may use the art as long as it's not being sold or marketed as your own, and that I'm credited for the image. :)
Excellent, and due credit shall be given. I'm always good for that. ;)
I have a rough sketch of another Tarasque-based mech called the "Moloch" with 2 ER Large Pulse Lasers, and 4 LBX-10s. Perhaps you can wait for that one to be finished.
Now there is idea except I'll have to change the ER Large Pulse Laser to something else cause that is level 3 tech for my setting. Standard LPLs will still make for a nasty config.
Any objections to the Mech being a Star Adder creation?
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Any objections to the Mech being a Star Adder creation?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Leviathan_%28Custom_%27Mech%29
It always was. :D Al my Clan mechs are Star Adder mechs. Don't know anything about them but I read they're the largest, thus have a higher probability of having more mechs. Makes a good place to through non-canon machines and not have it raise eyebrows.
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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Leviathan_%28Custom_%27Mech%29
It always was. :D Al my Clan mechs are Star Adder mechs. Don't know anything about them but I read they're the largest, thus have a higher probability of having more mechs. Makes a good place to through non-canon machines and not have it raise eyebrows.
...NNNNNOOOOOO!
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You may use the art as long as it's not being sold or marketed as your own, and that I'm credited for the image. :)
You rule. I seriously love the Ost you made and it inspired me... I've been working on my "Dark Caste Guide" and I would LOVE to use that image to represent a Clan Burrock OmniMech (http://www.classicbattletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,9728.0.html) I came up with. If no, that's cool and I understand.
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http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Leviathan_%28Custom_%27Mech%29
It always was. :D Al my Clan mechs are Star Adder mechs. Don't know anything about them but I read they're the largest, thus have a higher probability of having more mechs. Makes a good place to through non-canon machines and not have it raise eyebrows.
My wife just asked me what stupid giant robot thing I was cheering about now. :D
This makes my day!
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So the Tarasque has four gauss rifles, and you still felt the need to mount medium lasers? Wouldn't a few small pulse for anti-infantry work make more sense? It doesn't exactly lack for anti-mech power, but it could be vulnerable to sudden infantry attacks.
Hmm...on second thought, each gun only has 12 rounds, so I guess some reserve firepower isn't uncalled for. I also just noted the active probe, which lessens the effectiveness of infantry in hiding I guess.
Actually, tactically speaking, how likely is it that a direct fire support platform is going to be menaced by infantry? I just realized it would have to be pretty low, unless the infantry stays under cover for a pretty good period of time while the fight's line of advance moves past them. Am I reading that one right?
And I totally love basically everything Eriance has ever done, seriously, its some of the best work anywhere. I would love to see quite a bit of it colored and put into an action scene somewhere, as these designs are so sharp it scary! Boss work chief, truly awesome.
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The Star Adder in me just went like "Holy frikkin' shit", when I saw that Tarasque.
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Made some power armor. :/
(http://i.imgur.com/C8NFC.png)
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Loss the clown shoes and it's made of awesome O0
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Looks a little like Space Marine-try hard though. :P
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Feels definitely more Spheroid than Clan.
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Make the legs of the BA a little smaller/slender and it'll look great.
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Looks like a decent light suit with a pair of armored gloves, and a infantry weapon.
hehe take that Master Chief...
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The top half works really well, the legs need a little slendering up below the knee.
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I like the legs... perhaps they are meant for more rough environments or zero-g operations.
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Looking at those, I really wish that FanPro knew you when they decided to do Project Phoenix.
What jal said! DUDE! I love your style, it's a perfect blend of anime-inspired yet classicly battletech looking! LOVE IT! The 'organic mechanical' look of them (if that is even a real description :P) is just beautiful! Your inspiring me to break out my pencils and get sketching again! It's been years but the inspirational floodgates just burst open. ;D
-Gunz
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Made some power armor.
O0
Is that a backup weapon I see poking out on the left hip?
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O0
Is that a backup weapon I see poking out on the left hip?
An oversized pistol, yes. :)
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An oversized pistol, yes. :)
hehe cute.
Though one thing to note is most B-tech battle armor do not use the typical "oversize" infantry weapons that most powered armor uses in other series (i.e. WH40k Spacemarines with their bolters, Starcraft Marines with their "Gauss rifles", and Halos Spartans...). In short B-tech uses built in weapons systems for the most part.
B-tech power armor for the most part use hard mounted weapons built into the suit, often in the torso/shoulders and arms, with arm mounted weapons often but not always replace the "hand" elements (it's a waldo type thing) with a heavy weapon, the other arm can be another weapon or more often a powered claw. Though this is not to say B-tech dose not use the infantry weapons as main guns route, some B-tech BA do use this system, but are mostly spec ops and scout suits (I.e. the Gray Death Light and Nighthawk 21 suits). Also often small hard points for regular infantry weapons can be found that allow for light secondary weapons to be used.
The Hard mounted weapons can be configured to be swapped out with a different system if required, a mini Omni unit so to speak.
This is not to say that you should change it, far from it. Though it is something to keep in mind. Your drawing works well for a light suit with hand held weapons, which is common with that class.
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The Tornado Looks like it's holding a gun to me. O_o http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tornado
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The Tornado Looks like it's holding a gun to me. O_o http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tornado
It's PA(L) so it's not really one for carrying the support weapons you see "proper" battle armor using.
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Meh. I wouldn't worry about it. Explain it away as a Power Armour [Light] or a Light Battlearmour with two Armoured Gloves carrying a Portable Support Machine Gun with a Mydron Auto-Pistol for backup or something along those lines.
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The Tornado Looks like it's holding a gun to me. O_o http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tornado
That's because it's one of the suits that dose use "infantry" weapons as standard weapons, which I mentioned earlier.
Most B-tech power armor have built in weapons rather than the "hand held weapons approach".
Suits that use hand held weapons as their main weapons
Kage
Kobold
Nighthawk 21
Tornado
Gray Death Light
Smoothdavid II (a police suit)
Note: The Kage and Kobold also have a squad support weapon (a crew served weapon if you will). Also their all PAL and light class. Your typical "trooper" suit are mediums.
Elementals, IS Standards (and it's spin offs), Achileus, Infiltrator Mk. II's, Longinus, Kanazuchi's, Hauberk's, Nephilim's, Gnome's and so on all use built in weapons.
Your drawing fits into the typical light and PAL suits.
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i'd suggest light BA, since it looks to be a bit bulkier than most PAL's..
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The top half works really well, the legs need a little slendering up below the knee.
Couldn't the thickness of the legs be explained by mechanical jump boosters?
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Newest commissioned mech for God and Davion: the Flammenwerfer.
(http://i.imgur.com/8Lh4r.png)
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...Ever consider doing a 6-legger? I'm making a new style of unit for my AU... :)
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A newcomer to the thread, I apologize for going back a bit, but did you ever do a revision of the Unseen Shadow Hawk? I searched through the thread but I'm either blind or it's missing. Given your quality I'd love to see my favorite IS mech given a once over.
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THE FLAMMENWERFER
IT WERFS FLAMMEN
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@Red Pins: BT allows 6-legs now? I thought it was either a Biped or a Quad (or the 3-legged Ares). Or is this the custom house rules?
@Syzyx: Given that it's a Unseen/Reseen mech, I will (eventually) add it to the list of sketches. A bit short on free time and artisitic motivation due to school, at this moment, though. Got a Thermodynamics exam this friday, so won't be drawing much until then. :(
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He likes its Marauder-alikes doesn't he?
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Newest commissioned mech for God and Davion: the Flammenwerfer.
(http://i.imgur.com/8Lh4r.png)
Many thanks for your awesome work. It has been a pleasure to work with you. [notworthy] [notworthy] [notworthy]
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The Flammenwerfer is nice, I take it got's lots of flamethrowers (as that's what it means in German)?
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Beautiful work! My guess is 3 plasma cannons?
-Gunz
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He likes its Marauder-alikes doesn't he?
Who doesn't love the Macross Glaug? :D
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Who doesn't love the Macross Glaug? :D
Only one thing better than the Glaug ... the Monster. Ever thought of giving that one a workover? :)
W.
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IIRC, the Monster is the size of a building in Macross, which i'm guessig would make it around 200-300, if not more, tons. It's kind of hard to replicate that massive feel in BT when I'm only allowed to go up to 100 (although there are 200 ton mech rules, although SSW doesn't allow that yet).
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Excellent work, Eriance; can't wait to see more!
Looking at those, I really wish that FanPro knew you when they decided to do Project Phoenix.
I've seen middle school students draw better-looking machines than what's published in Project Phoenix. That stuff is so juvenile and unbelievable that I have a hard time taking them as "canon."
I'm going to have to agree with TigerShark, Jal Phoenix and Red Pins.
And considering that we're paying customers, there's no reason we can't be critical.
To be honest, I think that Eriance's designs have a bit too many fine details to be appropriate to BT scale.
No excuse, given the detail the smaller Heavy Gear minis can get.
Hell, compared to the level of detail with the Unseens back in the day, the lack of detail in current Battletech minis is criminal.
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Excellent work, Eriance; can't wait to see more!
I've seen middle school students draw better-looking machines than what's published in Project Phoenix. That stuff is so juvenile and unbelievable that I have a hard time taking them as "canon."
I'm going to have to agree with TigerShark, Jal Phoenix and Red Pins.
And considering that we're paying customers, there's no reason we can't be critical.
No excuse, given the detail the smaller Heavy Gear minis can get.
Hell, compared to the level of detail with the Unseens back in the day, the lack of detail in current Battletech minis is criminal.
I think you are looking at the unseens with rose-tinted glasses.
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I think you are looking at the unseens with rose-tinted glasses.
No, Max's lenses were blue.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Max_Jenius.jpg)
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Beautiful work! My guess is 3 plasma cannons?
-Gunz
Right! And flammewerfer means flamethrower in german.
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Right! And flammewerfer means flamethrower in german.
I tend to be in the camp of "Pack as many PBI killers as feasible", but that's a different level of evil. I like it. }:)
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Who doesn't love the Macross Glaug? :D
*holds up hand*
Part of why I never got too fussed about the mess with HG/Unseen, always more a Mospeada fan and fairly indifferent to the Macross stuff...
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God and Davion?
Any chance of some stats for this otherwise cool looking hot streak?
TT
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God and Davion?
Any chance of some stats for this otherwise cool looking hot streak?
TT
Ask and you shall receive! ;)
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Finished some of the custom unseens (added some older stuff to fill up the space).
(http://i.imgur.com/VdSHd.png)
Someone purchased all the custom unseens from me for a non-battletech mech game. So i guess these are no longer really batteltech mechs. I was promised that the art will be made available under creative commons free-use liscense; although he will retain the rights to making minis. 4 down some far.
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Awesome work kinda sad about the sales on my selfish but happy you are making money some real good stuff!
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Awesome work kinda sad about the sales on my selfish but happy you are making money some real good stuff!
Don't worry about the art, it will be available under an Open Source license (probably the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license), so you can use it in your own fan works/books. Miniatures will also be available...
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May we be informed of what company will soon be building your wonderful Big stompy blasting machines and possible when they will be coming out in mini form? If you would be so kind.
Also its great to hear that a little hobby has turned in to a bit of cash as well. So are you going to get a small Royalty form the art or was it just a sale? Will you be doing more work for them in the future?
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Cergorach is the one that bought the art, and i believe Sandman will be modeling the stuff after i finish the orthogonal stuff for the stuff.
This will likely be my last set of battletech-ish art for a while. I think it's time for me to move onto something else that I have trouble drawing to better well-round out my artistic skills; most likely coloring.
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The Xiphos is the best Marauder-a-like I've ever seen. Looks better than the actual unseen.
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Agreed. I just browsed this thread, saw the Xiphos, showed the image to my buddy who agreed that it should replace both the unseen and reseen Marauders. Then I read that minis were going to be made...
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You did an awesome art!
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Then I read that minis were going to be made...
really? When! :o
-Gunz
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This will likely be my last set of battletech-ish art for a while. I think it's time for me to move onto something else that I have trouble drawing to better well-round out my artistic skills; most likely coloring.
Come on guy you cant stop doing BT art for awhile. You do some fantastic Mechs.
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That 'Mech, second row, far right, is that a Longbow, that is really cool
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That is not a Longbow, that is a Hurlbat ;-)
I expect the minis to be available in early 2012, first batch will contain the Tarasque, the Gnat, the Xiphos, the Geruda, and the Hurlbat. In the following scales 1/300, 1/450, and 1/900. The Tarasque will be around 50mm (~2") tall in 1/300, 33mm (~1.3") tall in 1/450, and 17mm (~0.7") tall in 1/900. Larger versions are planned if the others sell well: 1/150 (N-scale), 1/100 (15/18mm scale), and 1/60 (30mm scale). I'm aiming to keep the scales consistent, the Tarasque is the heaviest Mech available (without going into Super Heavy Mecha categories), the Gnat is the Lightest. The Tarasque is 15m tall (~45'), the Gnat will be around 9m tall (~30') or 3cm in 1/300.
Shane "Sandman" will be showing off the 3D sculpts in the near future.
The art will be available under an Open Source license (probably the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license), any 'fluff' text and game rules will be available under the Open Game License (OGL). Game book pdfs will be available for for free.
Background will be a corporate world/system that can be placed into any sci-fi setting featuring Mecha and Cyberpunk. Rules will not be a selling point, but will be developed in an open format so that a 'complete' package can be offered.
The last four months have been very busy for me, so I've not got a site ready yet, I hope to get something ready in the coming month.
I don't want to step on the toes of the powers that be, so I'll try to comment as little as possible on this forum on this subject.
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I'll be very interested in the Tarasque.
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That 'Mech, second row, far right, is that a Longbow, that is really cool
It was; but since the art has been bought by another, new official names must be given with the new design.
Since non of the mecha designs will be in the BT universe, I think it would be a good time to take on more freedom with the weapon load and designs for the rest of the ex-custom unseens. It would help differentiate the new product from the existing one, i think.
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So it was going to be a Longbow.......now its called a Hurlbat. I would love to get my hands on a couple minis O0
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Orthogonal References for the 3D modeling. I'll leave it to Sandman to do his 3D magic. ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/yeilu.png) (http://imgur.com/yeilu)
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I say this absolute certainty;
'ME WANT!!!!!!!' ;D
-Gunz
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Good news. Looking forward to seeing the models. 8)
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Last two.
(http://i.imgur.com/WBSId.png)
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It's a pity you intend to move away form this sort of thing, your work is simply brilliant chief. We will miss your new and interesting takes on these classic and iconic mechs. Thanks for your time and efforts either way.
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Last two.
(http://i.imgur.com/WBSId.png)
These look great, but I would consider giving the outside edge of the feet a slight outward angle, from the front view. As it is, they look ever-so-slightly pigeon-toed.
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@Gryphon: These four I've posted are not the last mechs I will draw. As Cergerach said he was interested in all the custom unseens I've sketched (including some I've not posted here until now - such Longbow/Hurlbat). There will be, at least, all my custom unseen mechs inked (if all goes well and I don't end up being bogged down by my final year in college).
After this, however, I really need to move on to other stuff as my limited skills are getting incredibly skewed after 3 years of drawing mechs and tanks non-stop. I'm pretty sure I have forgotten everything I know about human anatomy and coloring at this point. :/
@Willydstyle: These are references for Sandman and thus everything was placed at 90 degrees of each other as much as possible so that it would serve as a meaningful base at which the 3D model can be made from. The final orthogonal art or post will likely be made from the 3D models themselves, as drawing them, regardless of how careful I am, will end up with mistakes and flaws in alignment, as it is evident on all 4 of these reference images.
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...We'll miss you, Eri. Just agree to do art for the next TRO, OK? Some of the garbage in the others...
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You can always make BTU Characters for A Time of War O0
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Ummm...how about some pilot's then, I would like to see your take on succession wars era mech jock gear, up to the full body light armor suits we start seeing with the clan's return. Maybe even some infantry forces, both in field gear, but most especially in garrison uniforms, I have never really been satisfied with the uniforms we see in the house books, some of them are only alright, but some are a bit...Frank Herbert over the top really.
On the other hand, if you do intend to move on, any chance we can get a hint as to what your new area of interest might be? 8)
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I'd love some infantry pics. ;)
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On the other hand, if you do intend to move on, any chance we can get a hint as to what your new area of interest might be? 8)
Coloring/painting natural scenery, most likely. Always wanted to do it, but never really had the time to really get into it. :/
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[AAAH]
...He's... Gone... GREEN!
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[AAAH]
...He's... Gone... GREEN!
Just think of them as potential battlefields ;D
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Hehe...looking forward to seeing the 3D versions of these guys. [watch]
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Really great stuff Eric!
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Thanks guys! :D
Here's two more.
(http://i.imgur.com/3CDIe.png)
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Nice, are these commissions? They both look good. The tank like quad Mech is solid while the other one looks like a light Mech on par with the Stinger or Wasp.
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There are the same set as the custom unseens that was purchased earlier. The Quad was originally the custom Scorpion, and the other was the custom Stinger.
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Most impressive stuff. You, sir, have a lot of talent! 8)
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I realize this is a five year necro, but I'm hoping anyone can tell me what happened to Eriance/Amuscaria? Their Deviantart and Pixiv pages have been deleted and I can't figure out what happened to them.
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Think he just stopped doing it. I still love the Miko Mech I got him. Even got an extra slightly different version.
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Haven't been here in a long while. Saw the recent announcement regarding Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries, and thought I dabble in mech-drawin' again. Decided to redesign one my old custom 'mechs, the Leviathan/Tarasque (aka. Gaussilla). Basically combined the two older designs into one that fits together in 3D space.
(https://i.imgur.com/KgyM1cF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/v15phEU.png)
[Load out]
Tech: Clan
Tonnage: 100
Chassis: Endo Steel
Engine: Fusion 300 XL
Heatsink: Clan Double
Armor: Standard
Armament:
-4x Gauss Rifles - w/ 4 tons of ammo (1 ton each). (LA,RA,LT,RT)
-2X ER Med. Lasers. (CT)
-1x Small Pulse Laser (R-H)
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oh blimey! These are amazing!
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Hey welcome back. Been a while. :thumbsup: That is a very lovely mech.
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SWEET!
I need a mini of this Mech!!
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Very Nice, glad to see you again.
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Eriance, if you come back, I don't know how I'll do it, but I'll scrape up the $$$ to commission at least three 'Mechs (or vehicles) by you.
Because you're that damned good.
I will unashamedly admit I somewhat squealed with joy in seeing your art in an official TRO.
Now we just need to see some of your Battle Armor. Any thoughts on taking your Valkyrie OC (kinda-sorta-Mega Man X-ish) character, and turning her into a VTOL or Partial Wing Battle Armor? That or the 40k skulls on shoulders & knees Battle Armor you did, but as a Battletech version?
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As for you getting pigeon-holed due to drawing nothing but 'Mechs? Umm no. Not even. I clearly remember your DevArt account (in fact, some of your various character poses I used as ideas for how to setup my own anatomical poses, once I realized that drawing the superman pose over and over, even if from different angles, wasn't winning me points with my teacher) and you were by no means stuck in a rut when it came to your art style. As the phrase goes, an artist is their own harshest critic, so take it from another graphics student, in that you're doing fine.
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I'll be available for commissions around August or September. Gotta finish my graduate research for the time being. :)
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I too will be saving up the cash monies, let us know here if/when you open up for commissions and best of luck with your Grad research and stuff!
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HE LIVES! :D
Thank you again for sharing :)
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Wait, what the- :o :drool:
:D OH HELL YEAHHH!!!!! ERIANCE IS BACK! HE! IS! BAAAAAAAACK!!!!! :D
I literally started dancing in my seat when I saw you had graced us with your presence once again. Is there any chance you could start uploading your old art to another DA account? I barely managed to get a fraction of your work downloaded before you nuked it, and I would hate to see it forever lost to the ether of the internet.
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I'll be available for commissions around August or September. Gotta finish my graduate research for the time being. :)
Count me in for September, I get a decent settlement then. Definitely interested in some arting.
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Hi all, I am now open for commissions, but for legal issues, there are some rules and notices I'd like to set first:
1. I can only draw original designs, or change the design of the 'mech variant you want until it passes for an original design. This is to avoid copyright infringement of CGL's IP.
2. I will retain right to display this on my online art gallery, or use it as a part of my portfolio. But you can do as you wish with the design/drawing.
3. My rate is ~25.00 USD/hr, and my usual drawings take 1-4 hours, depending on the complexity you need. The more stuff you add into the scene the longer it will take. I'm most efficient at drawing a single mech with some minor background detail.
4. I am most proficient at Tanks and mechs, and less so with aerospace stuff. It will take me longer to do those, but I will adjust the rate accordingly so it matches the price for a piece of a tank or mech of the same quality. As such, I will prioritize the ones with mechs and tanks.
5. I can only draw in my style, this for efficiency reasons and legal ones.
6. Provide me with all the references images, or tell me what you want me to look up.
7. I'm currently in school, and am also working a full-time job, so I can only do commissions on the weekends. I can get around to 1-3 a week.
8. I am not limited to Battletech stuff. And am open to general mechanical/non-mechanical commissions in general. If you have original designs you want me to take a crack at, I'm happy to oblige. I can also draw characters too, but it will look anime-ish.
9. Commissions will start next weekend. I will take the next weekdays to warm up. PM me or contact me thru email (if you don't get a response from me): AmuscariaArts@gmail.com
Thank you all for your interest and patronage. :)
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Nice to see you back, hopefully you can post some stuff for review here. I know I like seeing what you come up with. Love your Leviathan. I am trying to think of a way to get some minis of it.
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Will have more when I finish my warm-up. :)
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Sent!
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A couple of anime-ish 'mech sketches from last week's warm-up. Both intended to be WoB 'mechs (typical of my stuff).
(https://i.imgur.com/yOqPhxk.png)
[Prior] (A chimera of the Juggernaut and Warhammer)
Model: XM-111
Tonnage: 90 tons
Speed/Jump: 3/5/2
Armor: 16.5 tons (Standard)
Engine: Fusion 270
Internal Structure: Standard
Heat Sink: 18(36)
Armament/Equipment:
2x ER Large Laser (LA/RA)
4x ER Medium Lasers (LA/RA)
2x S-SRM-6 (LT/RT)
-Ammo S-SRM6 (2 tons) w/CASE (LT/RT)
2x Medium Pulse Lasers (LT/RT)
2x Small Pulse Lasers (CT)
2x Jump Jets (LL/RL)
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[Deacon]
Model: DCN-M1
Tonnage: 65 tons
Speed/Jump: 5/8/0
Armor: 13 tons (Standard)
Engine: Fusion 325 XL
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel
Heat Sink: 15(30)
Armament/Equipment:
6x Medium Pulse Lasers (2x LA/RA, LT/RT)
2x SRM-6 (LA/RA)
2x Small Pulse Laser (CT)
1x ER Small Laser (H) (R)
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The thing that strikes me the most out of your designs is that they don't look like toy designs, they look like legit industrial hardware writ large.
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SERIOUSLY digging that Prior design and loadout! Hope we see MUCH more of that beautiful beastie.
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Do you have a pixiv/Devianart to follow?