Warship design assistance required - 'Transport Cruiser'

[marauder648]

Whilst the Potemkin class is unmatched in its transport capacity, these ships are rarely used to their full extent by the Clans of Kerensky.  This is because there is very rarely a need to carry 25 DropShips full of ground forces anywhere within the Homeworlds.  Not even during the Widowmaker Absorption of the Annihilation of the Not Named did a Potemkin carry a full compliment of DropShips with hostile intent.  The sheer expense of maintaining these ships and the requirements for specalized docks makes them harder to maintain and of those Clans that do have them, they tend to use them as Ersatz Battleships, only Clan Diamond Shark uses the Potemkin in anything like its original role.

Still the need to move a large number of troops was a requirement and JumpShips, whilst rarely directly attacked could be lost to a boarding action, and the Clans still preferred to move troops around with WarShip support as a 'just in case' measure.  As the Crusader/Warden divide grew, the Crusader Clans began dreaming of returning to the Inner Sphere, and it was feared that the transport capacity to do so simply didn't exist, and mostly, this was true.  Trials of Possession for WarShips could have been declared but these in the past had tended to escalate to be costly, painful victories and defeats making such Trials rare to say the least.  Rifling through their naval Caches yielded some positive results but it was not enough as most of the ships left in the Naval Caches were in poor condition following the Pentagon Civil War.

A design requirement was put forwards for a ship that could carry 10 DropShips and embarked troops on the long journey to the Inner Sphere should the Great Debate be won by the Crusaders, in the mean time a ship could replace reliance on the number of JumpShips a Clan would need to maintain to carry the equivalent number of troops and personnel (As Monolith JumpShips were still rare, even within the Kerensky Cluster).

Design Peramiters

Tentative name - Bagration Class (keeping with the Russian themed names for SLDF transports with Volga and Potemkin as examples)
Displacement - Maximum of 770,000 tons
Speed - 3/5 required.
LF battery is required.
DropShip Capacity - 10 docking ports
Aerospace Capacity - 2 Stars of Fighters + space for small craft.
Cargo Capacity - At least 100,000 tons, more is desirable.
Fuel Capacity - Extensive fuel capacity required (Secondary role of acting as a replenishment vessel forseen)
Protection - Equivalent to the cruiser scale ship that she is.  The Volga class is a good starting point.
Armament - Enough to engage and drive off or destroy hostile Destroyer scale ships.  Anti-fighter weapons and anti-missile defences are a must.

[Sharpnel]

Points at the Volga

[marauder648]

She only carries 4 dropships and has huge heat issues, plus there's not many of them left and they are too spread amongst the various Clans to be of use. 

[Alsadius]

I've tried to design this one to be a decent combat ship, but also to give it the ability to deliver the troops to the front in good shape to fight. The investment in grav decks is far larger than any other comparable ship, due to the extended periods that the ship will be at zero gravity during the long charging intervals on the way to the Inner Sphere. The weapon mix is energy-heavy, to reduce logistical needs, and for the same reason capital missiles have been entirely omitted. It's designed to be primarily a broadside combat ship, capable of dishing out substantial damage at long range. Defensive armament is on a reasonably generous scale, with AMS mounts sufficient to knock down a Barracuda backed up by large supplies of ammunition, and PPCs and LPLs covering all angles against enemy fighters. Two dozen small naval lasers provide dual-purpose weaponry, suitable for either fighting light WarShips, particularly fore and aft, or for thickening up the anti-fighter defenses if needed.

The cargo capacity of the ship is in line with what was requested by the planning committee, with one notable exception. Instead of relying on the internal fuel storage for both the ship's own engines and resupplying other units, a dedicated fuel storage bay of 10,000 tons was added - the additional weight required for a separate tank was deemed worthwhile to ease resupply of other ships.

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Class/Model/Name: Bagration (Alsadius)
Tech: Inner Sphere
Ship Cost: $37,180,092,480.00
Magazine Cost: $14,400,000.00
BV2: 88,200

Mass: 770,000
K-F Drive System: Compact with L-F Battery
Power Plant: Maneuvering Drive
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-Carbide
Armament:
16 Naval PPC Heavy
4 Naval AC 30
24 Naval Laser 35
48 PPC ER (C)
48 Laser Large Pulse (C)
64 AMS (C)

Class/Model/Name: Bagration (Alsadius)
Mass: 770,000

Equipment: Mass
Drive: 138,600
Thrust
Safe: 3
Maximum: 5
Controls: 1,925
K-F Hyperdrive: Compact with L-F Battery (17 Integrity) 356,125
Jump Sail: (5 Integrity) 69
Structural Integrity: 75 57,750
Total Heat Sinks: 1702(3404) Double 1,131
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 11250 points 4,590
Fire Control Computers: 0
Armor: 1155 pts Lamellor Ferro-Carbide 1,155
Fore: 200
Fore-Left/Right: 200/200
Aft-Left/Right: 200/200
Aft: 155

Dropship Capacity: 10 10,000
Grav Decks:
Small: 4 200
Medium: 3 300
Large: 2 1,000
Escape Pods: 30 210
Life Boats: 30 210

Crew And Passengers:
48 Officers in 1st Class Quarters 480.00
151 Crew in 2nd Class Quarters 1,057.00
82 Gunners and Others in 2nd Class Quarters 574.00
100 Bay Personnel 0.00

# Weapons Loc Heat Damage Range Mass
4 Naval PPC Heavy FR 900 600 (60-C) Extreme-C 12,000
4 Naval PPC Heavy FL 900 600 (60-C) Extreme-C 12,000
4 Naval PPC Heavy AR 900 600 (60-C) Extreme-C 12,000
4 Naval PPC Heavy AL 900 600 (60-C) Extreme-C 12,000
2 Naval AC 30 LBS 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000
2 Naval AC 30 RBS 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000
8 Naval Laser 35 Nose 416 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
4 Naval Laser 35 Aft 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
2 Naval Laser 35 RBS 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
2 Naval Laser 35 LBS 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
2 Naval Laser 35 FR 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
2 Naval Laser 35 FL 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
2 Naval Laser 35 AR 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
2 Naval Laser 35 AL 104 70 (7-C) Long-C 1,400
6 PPC ER (C) Nose 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) RBS 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) Aft 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) LBS 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) FR 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) FL 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) AR 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 PPC ER (C) AL 90 90 (9-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) Nose 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) RBS 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) Aft 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) LBS 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) FR 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) FL 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) AR 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
6 Laser Large Pulse (C) AL 60 60 (6-C) Long 36
8 AMS (C) Nose 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) RBS 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) Aft 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) LBS 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) FR 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) FL 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) AR 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4
8 AMS (C) AL 8 24 (2.4-C) PDS 4

Ammo Rounds Mass
Naval AC 30 Ammo 100 80.00
Naval AC 30 Ammo 100 80.00

Number Equipment and Bays Mass
20 Bay Fighter 3,000
6 Bay Small Craft 1,200
100,000 Cargo, Standard 100,000
9,100 Cargo, Liquid 10,000
1 NCSS Large 500
1 Mobile HPG 50
5 Bay Battle Armor 5 50

Defensive Ammo Rounds Mass
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32
AMS (C) Ammo 768 32

[marauder648]

Very nice but you seem to have omitted fitting the AMS themselves, but have installed their ammo

[Alsadius]

Very nice but you seem to have omitted fitting the AMS themselves, but have installed their ammo

Right, good catch. There's 8 per facing, so 64 total. They've been edited in.

[marauder648]

Really nice :) I've sent you a PM with some questions, but I forgot one. How long is this thing?

[Alsadius]

I didn't have a particular length in mind, but from glancing through designs with similar weights, 800 metres would be pretty typical. Given this is a broadside-preferring ship, and it's so festooned with grav decks, it's probably a bit longer for its weight than most. Let's say 850 metres.

I've changed the design as you said. HNPPCs are now LNPPCs, the double Gauss has been added to the bow, and the double NL-35s have been upgraded to quads. (You said triples, but the extra mass freed up by the PPC downgrade was enough for quads). The endurance has also been increased - the crew all get first-class quarters now(which was one I wanted in the original design but couldn't squeeze in), and the auxiliary fuel tank is 50% bigger, up to 15,000 tons total. Defensive weapons have been changed from 6 ERPPC + 6 LPL + 8 AMS per facing to 4 ERLL + 3 Gauss + 3 UAC/20 + 4 AMS per facing. That's a bit more raw firepower, but it won't hit quite as hard in practice, and the biggest guns(the UAC's) have fairly short ranges. Because of the reduced heat loads all around, the heat profile of the ship is substantially improved as well - it can now fire ~3/4 of its weapons each turn, instead of ~1/2.

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Class/Model/Name: Bagration II
Tech: Inner Sphere
Ship Cost: $37,091,937,120.00
Magazine Cost: $23,640,000.00
BV2: 80,485

Mass: 770,000
K-F Drive System: Compact with L-F Battery
Power Plant: Maneuvering Drive
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-Carbide
Armament:
32 AMS (C)
16 Naval PPC Light
4 Naval AC 30
36 Naval Laser 35
2 Naval Gauss Rifle Medium
32 Laser Large ER (C)
24 Gauss Rifle (C)
24 AC 20 Ultra (C)

Class/Model/Name: Bagration II
Mass: 770,000

Equipment: Mass
Drive: 138,600
Thrust
Safe: 3
Maximum: 5
Controls: 1,925
K-F Hyperdrive: Compact with L-F Battery (17 Integrity) 356,125
Jump Sail: (5 Integrity) 69
Structural Integrity: 75 57,750
Total Heat Sinks: 1811(3622) Double 1,240
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 11250 points 4,590
Fire Control Computers: 0
Armor: 1155 pts Lamellor Ferro-Carbide 1,155
Fore: 200
Fore-Left/Right: 200/200
Aft-Left/Right: 200/200
Aft: 155

Dropship Capacity: 10 10,000
Grav Decks:
Small: 4 200
Medium: 3 300
Large: 2 1,000
Escape Pods: 30 210
Life Boats: 30 210

Crew And Passengers:
50 Officers in 1st Class Quarters 500
149 Crew in 1st Class Quarters 1,490
94 Gunners and Others in 1st Class Quarters 940
100 Bay Personnel 0

# Weapons Loc Heat Damage Range Mass
4 AMS (C) Nose 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) RBS 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) Aft 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) LBS 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) FR 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) FL 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) AR 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 AMS (C) AL 4 12 (1.2-C) PDS 2
4 Naval PPC Light FR 420 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
4 Naval PPC Light FL 420 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
4 Naval PPC Light AR 420 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
4 Naval PPC Light AL 420 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
2 Naval AC 30 LBS 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000
2 Naval AC 30 RBS 200 600 (60-C) Long-C 7,000
8 Naval Laser 35 Nose 416 280 (28-C) Long-C 5,600
4 Naval Laser 35 Aft 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 RBS 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 LBS 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 FR 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 FL 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 AR 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
4 Naval Laser 35 AL 208 140 (14-C) Long-C 2,800
2 Naval Gauss Rifle Medium Nose 30 500 (50-C) Extreme-C 11,000
4 Laser Large ER (C) Nose 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) RBS 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) Aft 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) LBS 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) FR 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) FL 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) AR 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
4 Laser Large ER (C) AL 48 40 (4-C) Extreme 16
3 Gauss Rifle (C) Nose 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) Aft 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) RBS 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) LBS 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) FR 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) FL 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) AR 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 Gauss Rifle (C) AL 3 45 (4.5-C) Long 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) Nose 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) Aft 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) RBS 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) LBS 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) FR 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) FL 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) AR 42.00 90 (9-C) Medium 36
3 AC 20 Ultra (C) AL 42 90 (9-C) Medium 36

Ammo Rounds Mass
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
AMS (C) Ammo 192 8.00
Naval AC 30 Ammo 100 80.00
Naval AC 30 Ammo 100 80.00
Naval Gauss Rifle Medium Ammo 100 40.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
Gauss Rifle (C) Ammo 120 15.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00
AC 20 Ultra (C) Ammo 120 24.00

Number Equipment and Bays Mass
20 Bay Fighter 3,000
6 Bay Small Craft 1,200
100,000 Cargo, Standard 100,000
13,650 Cargo, Liquid 15,000
1 NCSS Large 500
1 Mobile HPG 50
5 Bay Battle Armor 5 50
(I'm not sure if the unity of the defensive armaments bugs you or not - I tend to like it, because it seems easier to play, easier to grasp the TRO mentally, and because it's a good way to keep myself from min-maxing. But if you want me to get a bit weirder, I can. I was kicking around half a dozen other possible weapon types before I settled on those, so I can mix it up easily enough)

[marauder648]

Perfect :) The only fluff change i'll make to her is giving her a single grav-deck but its gonna be LONG.  This will give her an internal layout like the Potemkin class