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Re: Terra. Home to ilClan Wolf.
« Reply #30 on: 10 August 2021, 08:19:24 »
HotW said small craft IIRC, so guess it is time to check.  Otherwise we are talking something like Vampyres I guess.

The only mention I see of Jian in HotW just says "Ready the Jian-class cutters for their run."  Nothing about dropship versus small craft. The words "small craft" don't appear at all.
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« Reply #31 on: 10 August 2021, 10:00:53 »
Those who dislike the idea of ilClan Wolf are bound to grasp at straws and crow that the victory will not last. But what a massive waste of plot that would be. What a contradiction to what has been foreshadowed that would be.  They can gnash and wail all they want, I am unconvinced that the plot does not lead to the establishment of a third league under Clan Wolf.

It's not a waste of plot, it's consistency, every faction that has ever held Terra has fallen, Terra is a Faction killer in BattleTech it always has been, that's it's point, the tragedy of any faction that holds it, and it's always been at the hands of an "ally", Terran Alliance to Terran Hegemony, Terran Hegemony to Amaris Empire, then SLDF to Comstar (at least as an idea), Comstar to Wob, Wob to Republic (since Stone either was/thinks he was/likes messing with Alric a WoB plant) and then Republic to Wolves, that's also what's been foreshadowed, Wolves will die and the third league as well in time, it could be considered clasping at straws to think that they will survive, no one can be king of the hill for ever, they slip up and fall, maybe with a little help from those looking up at the hill and wondering how nice it must be up there and how much they'd like to be the one at the top, it's nature, will the third starleague turn around and absorb the wolves and ilKarn? will it be someone else, and who will kill off the third league? homeworld clans? WoBbies part II, pantsless boogaloo?.
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Re: Terra. Home to ilClan Wolf.
« Reply #32 on: 10 August 2021, 10:22:21 »
The only mention I see of Jian in HotW just says "Ready the Jian-class cutters for their run."  Nothing about dropship versus small craft. The words "small craft" don't appear at all.
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« Reply #33 on: 10 August 2021, 10:42:08 »
P38. Look for "cutters".
"The cutters were stripped down light DropShips that used magnetic grapples to attach to the hull of the target vessel."

So HotW not only doesn't call them small craft, but calls them DropShips as well.  Seems everything is in agreement then?
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« Reply #34 on: 11 August 2021, 09:23:42 »
The Sourcebook spells the "cutters" are actually Troop Carrying Commando Dropships.

It would been cool if were a brand new type of ship, but it guess it's not to happen. Additionally, the Piledrivers are essentially over armored, over engines, unarmed, ram dropships.  Which aren't terribly exciting to me.
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Re: Terra. Home to ilClan Wolf.
« Reply #35 on: 11 August 2021, 10:14:16 »
If they were dropships, then it doesn't make sense to dedicate one whole jumpship collar for something that small and expendable.

Makes more sense for them to be small craft.

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« Reply #36 on: 11 August 2021, 14:40:40 »
The Sourcebook spells the "cutters" are actually Troop Carrying Commando Dropships.

It would been cool if were a brand new type of ship, but it guess it's not to happen. Additionally, the Piledrivers are essentially over armored, over engines, unarmed, ram dropships.  Which aren't terribly exciting to me.

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« Reply #37 on: 11 August 2021, 15:32:48 »
If they were dropships, then it doesn't make sense to dedicate one whole jumpship collar for something that small and expendable.

Makes more sense for them to be small craft.
Small craft might not be able to do the job.  The smaller the ship, the fewer troops it can carry.

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« Reply #38 on: 11 August 2021, 15:35:02 »
If they were dropships, then it doesn't make sense to dedicate one whole jumpship collar for something that small and expendable.

Makes more sense for them to be small craft.
One of many reasons the naval players have been so grumpy about the whole thing.

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« Reply #39 on: 16 August 2021, 14:40:52 »
I'm back from reddit, nice to see that we finally made it to Terra.

I'm also delighted to find out that they named a mech after me.  :P

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« Reply #40 on: 18 August 2021, 14:52:42 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?
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« Reply #41 on: 18 August 2021, 16:15:54 »
I'm also delighted to find out that they named a mech after me.  :P

Careful, things haven't gone well for the in-universe person who claimed it was named after them.

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« Reply #42 on: 18 August 2021, 18:09:58 »
What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?

Scanning the MUL, I see the Marauder IIC 6 is the only MAD IIC that the Wolves have in stock. It would be fun to surprise the Falcons with their own design.

If I can't get an assault 'Mech, I would also accept a Griffin C.

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« Reply #43 on: 18 August 2021, 21:29:01 »
Since I would clearly have been an Exile returning to the fold I would ask the techs to double check that Sojourner over there.  It can probably be put back together, since that is kind of its point.

But since you asked for non-Omni I would probably be drawn to a munchtastic Hellstar, with a secondary choice of the Republic built Archer 7C from the rec-guide.
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« Reply #44 on: 21 August 2021, 08:25:06 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?

A Blood Reaper would do fine.

Careful, things haven't gone well for the in-universe person who claimed it was named after them.

Nah man, the devs totally had me in mind and not that Stackpole fellow.

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« Reply #45 on: 21 August 2021, 08:35:46 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?

Given I would have been a former FWL freeborn (and there is no Shadow Hawk option) i'll take a Phoenix Hawk C 2

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« Reply #46 on: 03 September 2021, 06:35:38 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?

I would say either Mad Cat II (what can i say, I really like Timber Wolf) or Warhammer IIC (gotta love revamps of classics).
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« Reply #47 on: 03 September 2021, 07:23:23 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?
The Dominator is pretty well designed for what I would want, but I will assume those newer designs are out of stock. In that case I would pull a Lobo 3. It has a fair amount of speed, a headcapper to potentially end any fight, and plenty of short-ranged weapons to handle most any opponent.
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« Reply #48 on: 05 September 2021, 18:00:14 »
I'm gonna go with the Blood Reaper. Warhammer iIC with jump jets.

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« Reply #49 on: 06 September 2021, 00:13:36 »

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« Reply #50 on: 06 September 2021, 13:09:52 »
Hellstar.  Accept no substitute.
That's a good call. I wonder how many they'd have since it was a Horses/Exiles product. I'd like to think it would be a prized ride among the Exiles, despite being a 2nd liner
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« Reply #51 on: 06 September 2021, 22:48:25 »
I would imagine their highly prized given the limited Mech production capacities they had prior to capturing Wolves old OZ-1 and W-8 manufacturing facilities on Tamar.

Given it's Tamar, they may not be owning it for long.
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« Reply #52 on: 23 September 2021, 11:37:40 »
Just noticed one of Herb's old answers about the Warden Wolves got canonized, which will also open a interesting point of contention between the Wolves and reborn Jaguars.

Look at the notable Kingfisher pilot- Eric Weaver.  Born a Warden Wolf, he traces his ancestry back to a bloodnamed warrior who piloted the same Kingfisher when Phelan won the 6th Dragoons as isorla which became the 6th Wolf Dragoons after Operation Bulldog.  Which means at some point the Warden Wolves established, at least, that Bloodname in their Clan and it has managed to establish itself.  Eric was a survivor of Arc Royal who decided to accept Alaric's call to return (with his Kingfisher) rather than remain with the Wardens- he won his place as a warrior again and assigned to the 5th Battle Cluster.  Prior to the invasion of Terra, he won (with his Kingfisher) a Trial of Propagation for the Bloodname (among the Crusader Wolves?  Do they have Weavers?  did another Weaver join the Crusaders?) defeating 4 opponents (in a row? sounds like separate battles).  The first 3 were not remarkable, but the final battle took on a Warwolf that was defeated after it's engine was destroyed.

If he survived Terra, there is IMO a good chance he advanced in the ranks during that battle.
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« Reply #53 on: 28 September 2021, 14:00:23 »
As a Wolf warrior, your ride has been trashed fighting the Republic and then in the opening hours of the ilClan Trial against the Falcons.

So your shiny Omni has given up the ghost and now you are pulling from the salvage or back ups the merchants & techs packed along for just this reason.  What RAF salvage, RecGuide non-Omni offering, or Dark Age Wolf secondline machine (Blood Reaper, Tundra Wolf, etc) would you prefer to pull from storage?
I would pick the Blood Reaper for sure. I do wonder if many Clan Warriors picked up the Dolaire.

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« Reply #54 on: 28 September 2021, 14:05:41 »
The Blood Reaper is a borderline front/second line machine.  It may not have a fancy Wolf name, but its a Wolf machine for sure.  It kicks butt!
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« Reply #55 on: 28 September 2021, 14:53:58 »
I would pick the Blood Reaper for sure. I do wonder if many Clan Warriors picked up the Dolaire.

The Doloire is a Omni, and any Omni is preferred over a non-Omni . . . besides, you can mount the Blood Reaper's load on the Doloire and be more accurate with more armor and weapons- just not as fast.
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« Reply #56 on: 28 September 2021, 15:45:55 »
If I had to take a Republic mech I would want a Doloire but the moment a Timber Wolf or Dire Wolf becomes available I'm moving back over.
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« Reply #57 on: 09 January 2022, 04:36:45 »
Do we have any information on the former Wolf in Exile Clusters that make up Omega Galaxy?

I can see from IlClan that the 2nd Wolf Legion is one of the five but can't see any information on the others.

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« Reply #58 on: 09 January 2022, 12:43:31 »
Basically look at the RecGuides to see the Warden Wolf entries- like the Sojourner or Ice Ferret.

Shattered Fortress tells you what Wolf clusters existed at the time they disappeared, it would be those 5 making up that galaxy.
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« Reply #59 on: 09 January 2022, 22:18:22 »
I'm gonna go with the Blood Reaper. Warhammer iIC with jump jets.
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