deimos, blade, hyena and kyudo

[Daishi411]

so has anyone seen them or own them yet, they came out around the middle of the month IIRC.

i'm really curious to see the new deimos and blade, but also how the hyena translated into a mini.

[Alex Keller]

I checked the "Coming Soon" part of Ironwind Metal's online store and saw that they will be available after December 26th. 

Shame.  That means we'll be waiting a bit longer for the Merkava tanks. 

[Daishi411]

I checked the "Coming Soon" part of Ironwind Metal's online store and saw that they will be available after December 26th. 

Shame.  That means we'll be waiting a bit longer for the Merkava tanks.

that's the iwm store, not general availability. stuff doesn't go up on iwm until a little while later

[Daishi411]

as an additional question about the blade specifically, what's different from the old blade?

[speck]

that's the iwm store, not general availability. stuff doesn't go up on iwm until a little while later

That date is valid for IWM web release. They are out  in distribution now.

[Daishi411]

That date is valid for IWM web release. They are out  in distribution now.

yep.

do you know what was changed on this new blade by any chance?

[tBanzai]

Any idea when the photos will be up?  I'd really rather not buy blind.

[Weirdo]

Saw all 4 at the store yesterday, and picked up a Kyudo. Very nice mini, well detailed. Not too big, looks good next to an Icarus II scale-wise. My only complaint is that it's pudgier than the art led me to believe, but well within acceptable limits.

[ShockaTime]

Saw all 4 at the store yesterday, and picked up a Kyudo. Very nice mini, well detailed. Not too big, looks good next to an Icarus II scale-wise. My only complaint is that it's pudgier than the art led me to believe, but well within acceptable limits.

that's good to hear. I just ordered a Deimos, Kyudo, and Hyena the other day, hopefully they'll be here soon!!!

[Daishi411]

Saw all 4 at the store yesterday, and picked up a Kyudo. Very nice mini, well detailed. Not too big, looks good next to an Icarus II scale-wise. My only complaint is that it's pudgier than the art led me to believe, but well within acceptable limits.

that's good news, i just ordered one as well. this was one of the mechs on my most wanted list, it just looks so cool and it's good to hear the mini does it justice. hopefully mine will be here soon!

[ialdabaoth]

that's good to hear. I just ordered a Deimos, Kyudo, and Hyena the other day, hopefully they'll be here soon!!!

What's the Hyena look like?

[ShockaTime]

What's the Hyena look like?

it's not here yet.

[ialdabaoth]

it's not here yet.

... I thought I was asking Weirdo.

[Weirdo]

Haven't seen one assembled yet, but the parts in the blister looked promising...

[ShockaTime]

... I thought I was asking Weirdo.

You quoted me.

[Daishi411]

Haven't seen one assembled yet, but the parts in the blister looked promising...

what about the blade, did they put the RAC on it?

[Weirdo]

Ayup.

[Daishi411]

Ayup.

sweeeeet!

[I am Belch II]

Waiting for that Deimos!

[Wolf Reaper]

I just got and built the Deimos and Kyudo.  The deimos is about 1/2 to 2/3 the size of the old one, and has more detailed arms, better feet, and the missle packs now sit on the mech instead of above.

[ShockaTime]

I just got and built the Deimos and Kyudo.  The deimos is about 1/2 to 2/3 the size of the old one, and has more detailed arms, better feet, and the missle packs now sit on the mech instead of above.

Nice! I can't wait to get mine!!

[Alex Keller]

Any pictures of the new miniatures?

[Wolf Reaper]

I can try to post them tommorow.  Need sleep so I can has work in the morning.

[Alex Keller]

Many thanks!

[Wolf Reaper]

Sorry for the delay, here you go.
Deimos

[Wolf Reaper]

...and Kyudo

[ShockaTime]

Nice, they both really good. Now i'm really looking forward to getting mine ;D

Thanks for the pics!!

[Col.Hengist]

Oh, I have been waiting for that diemos for some time. It did not dissapoint. Gonna have to get some soon.

[Wotan]

Is it possible to get a picture of both mechs beside known mechs ?
The Kyudo looks a bit oversized on that pics - but to have a better suggestion it would be great to have him beneath an other mini. Thanks !

[Daishi411]

Is it possible to get a picture of both mechs beside known mechs ?
The Kyudo looks a bit oversized on that pics - but to have a better suggestion it would be great to have him beneath an other mini. Thanks !

a couple posts up wolf reaper said that the kyudo was similar in size to the icarus II, so it's pretty easy to imagine its size from that.

[God and Davion]

The Deimos is a great improvement. Big kudos for resculpting it. O0 O0

[tapdancingbeavers]

Does anyone happen to have pictures of the Hyena, pretty please?  :)

[Burning Chrome]

While I never gave the Deimos a passing thought, I must admit the resculpt looks very good...though I'm not sure why it exists?

Be nice to see a Von Rohrs or Ostwar before another resculpt...thought I'm leery at the possibilities after seeing many of the latest releases.

Why?

Let's use todays other offering, the Kyudo. 

WTF happend?  A beer-gut?  Also, in these pics anyways, it looks absolutely huge.   ???

Like it's an assault mech or something. :o

Proportions are way off yet again.  The bloated torso, over-sized head...I'll stop there. >:(

Maybe someone can post pics comparing it to another mech of the same weight class?  Hatchetman, Blackjack or Vindicator perhaps? 

Or how about a Star League Galahad mini, which is 50 to 60 tons depending on the variant...just for comparison.

Thank you for yet another opportunity to save money. 

[JPArbiter]

While I never gave the Deimos a passing thought, I must admit the resculpt looks very good...though I'm not sure why it exists?

Be nice to see a Von Rohrs or Ostwar before another resculpt...thought I'm leery at the possibilities after seeing many of the latest releases.

Why?

Let's use todays other offering, the Kyudo. 

WTF happend?  A beer-gut?  Also, in these pics anyways, it looks absolutely huge.   ???

Like it's an assault mech or something. :o

Proportions are way off yet again.  The bloated torso, over-sized head...I'll stop there. >:(

Maybe someone can post pics comparing it to another mech of the same weight class?  Hatchetman, Blackjack or Vindicator perhaps? 

Or how about a Star League Galahad mini, which is 50 to 60 tons depending on the variant...just for comparison.

Thank you for yet another opportunity to save money.

the Kyudo is a primitve mechs using bulkier components. and even in the TRO looks pretty darned fat compared to other 40 tonners like the Clint, Hermes II, and Phoenix Hawk.  Given the Mini has to accomoate a 20 tube LRM launcher, I am not surprised nor offended by it's bulk.

[Burning Chrome]

the Kyudo is a primitve mechs using bulkier components. and even in the TRO looks pretty darned fat compared to other 40 tonners like the Clint, Hermes II, and Phoenix Hawk.  Given the Mini has to accomoate a 20 tube LRM launcher, I am not surprised nor offended by it's bulk.

I'm surprised you are not surprised nor offended.

I need to see some more comparison pics, curious to see it next to an Atlas now, but so far and IMO this mini is another sad entry in the era of "good-enough they'll buy it".

The TRO does not look "fat" despite the use of primitive/bulkier components and the version pictured/sculpted mounting the LRM-20 was NOT a primitive mech, as it mounted FFA w/CASE, an ERLL and the LRM-20 w/Artemis FCS cooled by 10 DHS.

I really liked the looks and design of the Kyudo and high hopes for it. 

Excellent mech and fun to use in Megamek games as well.

This mini does not do it justice and is very disappointing.

Just like the Crossbow, Firebee, Warlord, Titan II, Phoenix...

Bet its HUGE too...as big as a heavy or an assault.

[Wolf Reaper]

While I did not have time to take a crap load of pictures, I aimed for detailed ones.  The mini is comparable to the Centurion iirc. (It has been a few days)  It does have a gut, but looking at certain of the pics, I can see how it could be near the art.  No matter what, I say these two things: 1.  I wont bother taking pics again, makes no one happy.
2.  I am apalled at the constant hating on a company that really goes out of its way to support a small source of income.  Save the negative and JUST DON'T BUY IT!

I finish with, thank you Iron Wind Metals for supporting out small but mostly devoted game.

Oh, the mini has the antenae, I forgot to put it on.

[JPArbiter]

I am just happy to have a Kyudo Miniature. 

[Mastergunz]

Ah finally the Kyudo! My new fav enforcer stand in, lol. Anyone have pics of the new Blade? I hope it comes close to the art. I love me my speedy little RAC carriers. :)

-Gunz

[ShockaTime]

I'm almost always one of the first people to start hating on IWM for sculpting, but I honestly don't think the Kyudo is a bad mini, in fact I almost prefer the way it looks in mini form to the actual art.

[Daishi411]

yeah, i'm usually in the same boat as shocka when it comes to feelings regarding IWM quality, however i do have to come up on their side this time. this kyudo is actually very nice, and it seems to be a good size, though honestly scale doesn't bug me in the slightest, it will still 'fit in' with my other minis. this was also one of the minis i've been wanting for a while now which makes my expectation even higher, and i find myself oddly satisfied with mine, which by the way just arrived, and this minute i'm home from school is getting assembled! (i also got a brand new hunchback in pewter since i lost my plastic one, lest i forget)

[Psycho]

It does have a gut, but looking at certain of the pics, I can see how it could be near the art.

And I can see how it deviates too. You've got to understand that when someone is hyped about the illustration, having a mini come out that only from certain angles "could be near" the original illustration is not going to cut it. Horseshoes and hand grenades... To many, it won't matter. Some may even like the mini better than the illustration (the Crimson Langur is an example of this for me), but to someone who loves the illustration and wants it in mini form exactly as it appeared, they're going to be disappointed.

2.  I am apalled at the constant hating on a company that really goes out of its way to support a small source of income.  Save the negative and JUST DON'T BUY IT!

So, you're saying that dissatisfied customers should just shut up and become non-customers instead of pointing out what displeases them in the hopes of getting product they like better in the future? That is a very short-sighted mindset. Ideally, both sides would remain civil. The customer would air any serious misgivings about a product, and the company would evaluate the comments and make adjustments where necessary. If customers walk away and the company does nothing, that small source of income becomes even smaller.

[God and Davion]

I would like that people here calm down. Everyone has the right to disagree if he behaves in a civil way [copper] [copper]

[Burning Chrome]

Wow, just simply wow...what has the world become?

I posted a criticism, nothing more, and some folks agree and others disagree.

Its not "hating".

And now we're being told to calm down and I have yet to see anything truly hateful or inflammatory.

Seriously, the over-reacting/over-moderating in this country/world to anyone who has a different opinion is ridiculous...

My critique is out of concern...not hate.  I wanted to by this mech, and others, but will not if it doesn't meet my expectations.

And like Psycho said, many sculpts IMPROVED the mech over the artwork.

I knew this would happen, but I refuse to say nothing any longer.

Lock away...or let this continue and take a chance that someone's ego will get bruised.

I'll stop there...

[greatsarcasmo]

By all means post your criticism. The moderator posting is simply to give pause to the posters before saying something they may regret.  This is one (amongst many) topic that tends to get posters ire up. Just remember the rules and to confront the opinion, NOT the poster.

[ialdabaoth]

Anyway... Hyena?

[willydstyle]

@Wolf Reaper: thanks a lot for posting those pics.  The Deimos is definitely on my "wish I was employed" wish list.  The Kyudo, while it may not match the TRO art, I like the mini a little better than the art anyways.  Posting pics of new miniatures is *very* helpful to everyone, even if they complain about the mini, you're showing us whether or not we like the mini enough to buy it.

[Wolf Reaper]

So I had some time...

[Burning Chrome]

 :o

As I suspected...definately another mini I will NOT be purchasing.

Thank you for taking the time to post this latest set of pics.

[tapdancingbeavers]

People really need to learn that a flat picture from an angle like many in the TROs often does not give a realistic idea of what the object looks like from other angles (especially the front).  I think minis should be released before pictures are published.  :P

So no pictures of the hyena yet?  :(

[jimdigris]

Does anyone happen to have pictures of the Hyena, pretty please?  :)

[tapdancingbeavers]

Cheers jimdigris.

[ialdabaoth]

...huh.

[dirty harry]

Thanks for the pictures.

And if IWM officials are reading: no thanks, i won't buy any of these. While the Deimos got more details and lost some of its insane size, it is still too big for my kind of game (sorry, but this one will still need 3 hexes (or even more...) instead of one and i don't play by miniature rules, so hexsize is my benchmark), the Kyudo is too big for 45 ton mech. The picture demonstrates: although the same base of the Centurion is missing, it still towers the Centurion. And it is wide (and i for myself hate those action poses, only causing problems with my means of transportation). And the Hyena? What do i need that piece for in a standard battletech game?

[jimdigris]

The Deimos isn't that big. (Note: not the stock configuration.)

[Daishi411]

wow, nice bash jim. IWM should do the same thing with your dire wolf as they did with your stormcrow variant torso and arms and produce it, that dire wolf is awesome!

[tapdancingbeavers]

And the Hyena? What do i need that piece for in a standard battletech game?

Believe it or not some people have different motivations such as they play more than standard games or just like painting miniatures.

[willydstyle]

Considering that the Daishi is a bit too small compared to many other mechs, that Deimos looks fine to me.

[ShockaTime]

Believe it or not some people have different motivations such as they play more than standard games or just like painting miniatures.

or some people might just like it, I think the Hyena is a cool looking mech.

[Danger UXO]

or some people might just like it, I think the Hyena is a cool looking mech.

+1

Also, having support units for scenario play is sweet.  Looking forward to getting one or two of these and running my group through a "salvage under fire" scenerio.

[jimdigris]

wow, nice bash jim. IWM should do the same thing with your dire wolf as they did with your stormcrow variant torso and arms and produce it, that dire wolf is awesome!

Considering what a pain it was gouging out the torso and SRM, it's not something I'm going to do again.  Maybe I should make IWM the offer.

[Daishi411]

Considering what a pain it was gouging out the torso and SRM, it's not something I'm going to do again.  Maybe I should make IWM the offer.

doing the torso bits is the reason i don't like to mess with dire wolves, it way above me and my patience.

[Sagan]

The Kyudo looks good but I always thought the Centurion was small and anorexic. Deimos looks pretty good. Is the Dire Wolf that standing by it a Re sculpt or the original?

[JPArbiter]

The Kyudo looks good but I always thought the Centurion was small and anorexic. Deimos looks pretty good. Is the Dire Wolf that standing by it a Re sculpt or the original?

it is a rescult, you can tell because of the gauss barrel being used to Mod it

[jimdigris]

Deimos looks pretty good. Is the Dire Wolf that standing by it a Re sculpt or the original?

It's a kitbash of the resculpt.

[ShockaTime]

So, i built my deimos. Anyone else have problems getting the torso onto the waist piece without the legs getting in the way?

[Weirdo]

Buddy of mine used a bit of plasticard to raise the torso just enough.

[jimdigris]

That's what I should have done.  Instead, I just filed down parts of the legs. :(

[ShockaTime]

That's what I should have done.  Instead, I just filed down parts of the legs. :(

this is what i was going to do, but I just ended up angling the main body down so that it is covered, you can still see the gap from the back though. Seems like a silly problem to have, how was this avoided when it was being sculpted?

On a side note, I love the Hyena mini, it goes together very well and IMO is an accurate representation of the art.

[DEZOAT]

 }:) Hey thanks for the pics. I going to get these minis in heart beat.

[Col.Hengist]

Buddy of mine used a bit of plasticard to raise the torso just enough.

 Would a washer have worked?