Forgotten Realms & Dungeons and Dragons: Same Thing?

[Darth Nichos]

Not really into the RPG but I read the Novels; are both Universes the same or are they separate?

[rebs]

Forgotten Realms is a setting within DnD. 

[Death by Zeus]

Yep, DnD is a game system not a setting in and of itself.

[Darth Nichos]

So basically if I encountered Lloth in D&D, it is the same Lloth from FR?

[HobbesHurlbut]

So basically if I encountered Lloth in D&D, it is the same Lloth from FR?

D&D had one *generic* setting called Grayhawk for 3.0/3.5 and specific settings that have their own campaign books describing said worlds.

[RunandFindOut]

Not necessarily.  DnD is the game system, the mechanic functionality, it's setting neutral.  There have been LOTS of settings published (and this isn't even counting the innumerable homebrew settings of thirty-years of players). 

The settings are stand-alone and use the mechanics but can be wildly different.  All the way to 3e the default setting of DnD was considered to be Greyhawk as it was the original setting invented during EGG and the other creators' original campaigns.

The Forgotten Realms is the most famous setting for DnD and has the most fiction associated with it.  It was created during 1e (not original edition or OD&D) by Ed Greenwood.  And the exposure it got in 1e and 2e made it the most well fleshed out setting in the entire game-line. 

As to Lolth, the version you see in Forgotten Realms is the default version of Lolth for 2e or 3e.  But Lolth herself has undergone changes between editions so you'll notice discrepancies between editions.  If you see a Lolth that doesn't seem to fit the portrayal in FR sources, it may be due to changes between editions or if it's one of the less well known settings they may have used an altered version of Lolth.

PLAYED D&D SINCE THE ORIGINAL EDITION BOOKLETS

[TS_Hawk]

Also you have the world of Krynn too where the Dragonlance Saga took place was also DnD I prefer the Forgotten Realms to either Greyhawk or Krynn.

[rebs]

And who can forget the Dark Sun setting?

If this is known, can this skill be taught, or must I first lose a few more points of wisdom on the internet to achieve that effect?  ;)

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

But nothing really compared to Planescape.

[RunandFindOut]

Also you have the world of Krynn too where the Dragonlance Saga took place was also DnD I prefer the Forgotten Realms to either Greyhawk or Krynn.

Below is a complete list of "worlds" and "settings" published by major publishers for D&D through the editions.  I've played or DM'ed for most of them.  (I also have literally just over a quarter ton of RPG books)  Though if you've trawled the web since the 90s you've probably seen literally thousands of D&D settings, and some of them were better than published settings and had fiction associated better than many published novels.  My "D&D" folder alone on my computer is over 30GB.

Abeir
World parallel to Toril, separated from it long ago by Ao in order to end the war between the primordials and the gods.
Aebrynis
Cerilia: Birthright Campaign Setting.
Aduria: The continent where most of Cerilia's humans came from originally.
Aelos
CM6: Where Chaos Reigns
Aerofalyn
Elvish garden world. The Maelstrom's Eye, 39. Destroyed by goblinoids.
Alabeth
Practical Planetology, 33
Alpha Centauri
Mentioned in the Immortals boxed set. The closest star to Mystara.
Anandia
Wasteworld ruled by halflings and umber hulks. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Arborianna
Evermeet: Island of the Elves, page 87. Gold elf world conquered by scro.
Arda and the Lost World
From Ray Winninger's Dungeoncraft in Dragon Magazine. http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd/dungeoncraft/
Armistice
Practical Planetology, 10
Astrylon
Spelljammer comic #10. Probably in Pathspace.
Atalya
A lost continent. "Lost Empires." Dragon #214.
Athas
Dark Sun campaign setting.
Azeroth
Warcraft RPG.
Barbuda
Practical Planetology, 30
Barovia
Strahd von Zorovich's homeland on an unknown world. See RM1 Roots of Evil.
Barrara
Spelljammer comic book #10. Same sphere as Astrylon.
Barsoom
E.R. Burroughs' science-fantasy version of Mars. Warriors of Mars, D&D White Box.
Bas Lag
The world of China Mieville's Perdido Street Station. Dragon #352.
The Black Fen
Mentioned in Q1.
Bodi
Practical Planetology, 16. Forest world.
Bondel
The Radiant Dragon, 285. Elven world, population murdered by scro.
Borka
Smashed orc world. Spelljammer, Greyspace.
Boroda
Jungle planet. Spelljammer comic #5-8.
Bustlum
Gnomish world. TSR Trading card #208, "Grazzle."
C'T'lk'atatspace
Dominated by jade green insects. TCMC6 The Ultimate Helm pg.7
Kingdom of Caer Sidi
Q1: Queen of the Demonweb Pits, Fiendish Codex I, Expedition to the Demonweb Pits. Possibly located on Ginsel in Greyspace.
Casaspace
Contains Rock of Bral, Spiral, Ironpiece, Numliador, Minial’s Arch. Sources: Hackjammer, The Maelstrom's Eye by Roger E. Moore.
Chanak
Creative Campaigning, 32
Chandos
Water world with thick "crust" of floating earth bodies. Humans, orcs, and dwarves. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Charon
Practical Planetology, 27
Chislev
Stormy jungle world. Spelljammer, Krynnspace.
Citadel of the Keepers of the Flame
Asteroid. Spelljammer comic #14-15
Clusterspace
The Astromundi Cluster
Collar
Gas giant inhabited by lizardfolk, aaracokra, and dragons. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Compendium
A planet or crystal sphere, location unknown. The base of the spelljamming scholars known as the Seekers. The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook, page 93.
Comporellon
Practical Planetology, 4
Conatha
Elliptical water world. Spelljammer, Greyspace.
Damocles
A world in Mystara's solar system, doomed to be destroyed. Immortals boxed set. I'm leaving out the other planets in the system, since they're entirely undetailed and don't have "official" names.
Dark Continent
A continent based on Africa. Dragon #189.
Darkspace
Possibly related to the Polyhedron #114 world? SJA3 pg. 39
Darnannonspace
Dungeon #36 pg. 41
Dawnrise
TSR Trading Card #318 ‘Hajallian Thremintha.' Elven world exterminated by scro.
The Dead Shell
SJA2 Skulls & Crossbones pg.46
Dohwar homeworld
MC9. Homeworld of the penguin-like dohwar.
Doth B
The Maelstrom's Eye, 54. Contains a library.
Dragon Overlord World
The original planet where Krynn's Dragon Overlords came from. Age of Mortals, War of Souls, etc.
Dragonrealm
Dungeon #10. A world where extra-strength dragons are the dominant race. Humans are considered a myth. Another portal in this adventure leads to an unnamed desert world. Possibly the Dragon Overlord World?
Dukagsh
Scro homeworld. Dragon Annual #1.
Dunador
Destiny of Kings.
Earth
Ancient Greece: Age of Heroes Campaign Sourcebook, Deities & Demigods, Legends & Lore.
Ancient Rome: The Glory of Rome Campaign Sourcebook, Dragon #133
Averoigne: X2 Castle Amber
Celtic Ireland: Creative Campaigning, 18; Celts Campaign Sourcebook, Legends & Lore
Age of Vikings: Vikings Campaign Sourcebook, Dragon #90.
Dark Age Britain: Dragon #257, Dragon #263
Dark Age France: Charlemagne's Paladins Sourcebook
Dark Age Russia: Dragon #290.
King Arthur's England: Deities & Demigods, Legends & Lore
Outremer: The Crusades Campaign Sourcebook, the novel Black Crusade by Ari Marmell.
The Cavalier Age: A Mighty Fortress Campaign Sourcebook
Gothic Victorian era: Masque of the Red Death setting
Mesopotamia: Creative Campaigning, 21, Deities & Demigods 1st edition, Dragon #16, Dragon #329
Africa: Creative Campaigning, 23; Dragon Magazine #189, Dragon #215, Dragon #122, Dragon #116, Dragon #195, Dragon #202, Dragon #209, #27
Hyperborian Earth: The deities of Robert E. Howard's Hyperborian Earth were described in Gods, Demigods, and Heroes, and TSR published a Conan roleplaying game. Adventures taking place in this realm include Conan the Buccaneer, Conan the Mercenary, Conan Triumphant, and Red Sonja Unconquered.
India: Dragon #189. Dragon #225.
Robin Hood: Dragon #274
The Young Kingdoms: Deities known to the Earth of Elric of Melnibone appeared in the original printing of Deities & Demigods.
Lovecraftian Earth: Deities & Demigods (1st edition), d20 Call of Cthulhu
The Future: Gamma World, Stardrive, Metamorphosis Alpha, Star Frontiers, Dark Matter, Top Secret, d20 Modern, etc.
Eberron
Eberron campaign setting. Continents: Khorvaire, Aerenal, Xen'drik, Frostfell, Sarlona, Argonnessan.
Eloysia
A universe where worlds are bubbles of air in a vast expanse of solid matter known as plenum. Eloysia is also specifically the name of a bubble in this universe where the island nations of Trann and Volde float in the air in the outermost shell of islands around the central sun. From module M5, Five Coins For a Kingdom. Similar to Kofuspace.
Epsilon Eridani
Mentioned in the Immortals boxed set. The magically-capable civilization nearest to Mystara.
Esfah
Dragon Dice world. Lava elves and such. Dwarves and coral elves (good guys, serving Nature) and goblins and lava elves (bad guys, serving Death). Novels: Cast of Fate by Allen Varney and Army of the Dead by Edo van Belkom
The Fallen Lands
The default 4e world. Also known as "Points of Light" or the Forgotten Kingdoms, or simply the World. Home of the fallen empires of Arkhosia, Bael Turath, and Nerath, and current home of Nentir Vale.
Falx
Illithid planet. Practical Planetology, 7
Faeriespace
SJA3 Crystal Spheres pg. 18-27
The Frozen Lands
Q1 Demon Queen of Spiders, Queen of Spiders supermodule. Possibly the same as the Iron Wastes, Kostchchie's realm in the Abyss.
Fungo
Concordance of Arcane Space, 77
Gallamede
From Fiendish Codex I: The Lost Entries. Warriors and clerics from this world invaded the Abyss nearly a decade ago. Possibly also the source of the "fantastic cityscape of human design that appears to have been abandoned a thousand years ago on Abyss layer #628 - this might also be Suel.
Garden
Tree world, also called Yggdrasil's Child. A cluster of asteroids linked by a planet-sized tree, sharing a common atmosphere. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Garrash
Practical Planetology, 22
Ghenrek IV
The Wilderlands of High Fantasy. Also known as Gaia to some of its inhabitants. Rhadamanthia is the most well-known continent.
Ginsel
Crescent-shaped world. predominantly humans, with some demihumans. Ginsel is a Machiavellian society known for its sharp merchants and nasty politics. Possibly the home of the Kingdom of Caer Sidi (Q1, FC1, Expedition to the Demonweb Pits). Spelljammer, Greyspace.
Glemayne
Homeworld of the voadkyn Ombidias. Factol's Manifesto.
Glowrings Sphere
TCMC3 The Maelstom's Eye pg. 33
Glyth
Mind flayer world. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Golotspace
SJA4 pg. 52
Gorthspace
SJA4 pg. 52
Gnibile
Undead world. Gas giant. Gnibile has many portals to the negative elemental plane, and the quasi elemental planes. Spelljammer, Greyspace.
The Great Ocean
Mentioned in Q1.
Greatspace
SJA3 Crystal Spheres, 30-32
Greela
Cluster world. Predominately humans and elves, smattering of other demihuman races, few non-evil giants and giantkin. Spelljammer, Greyspace.
Guldor
Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss, Q1: Queen of the Demonweb Pits; Probably the location of Truegard, from Expedition to the Demonweb Pits. Definitely the location of the kingdom of Maldev from Q1.
Gwynedd
Home of the Deryni. Dragon #78.
H'Catha
Disk-shaped water world with a single mountain in the center, called the Spindle. Inhabited mainly by beholders. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Heartspace
TCMC5 The Broken Sphere pg. 16-106
Herdspace
Crystal sphere set up like a dyson sphere. Megafauna live on the inside of the shell. TCMC3 The Maelstrom's Eye pg. 49, 168+
Herospace
SJA3 Crystal Spheres, p. 9-17. Complete Spacefarer's Handbook, pages 85 and 87.
Ignia
Practical Planetology, 20
Ind
PSMC1, 30, 34, 66
Insectare homworld
Mountainous, forested. MC9.
Io's Blood Archipelago
Council of Wyrms campaign setting
Izmer
The setting of the D&D movie.
Jakandor
Isle of War, Isle of Destiny, Isle of Legend.
Labyrinth of Arachne
From Q1. Possibly located beneath Celene/Kule, one of Oerth's moons.
World of the Lost Ones
Homeworld of the clockwork horrors. MC7 Monstrous Compendium Spelljammer Appendix. Dragon #350, page 59. Possibly in Lostspace (see below).
Ka'jk'z
The neogi homeworld. Possibly destroyed by clockwork horrors. Dragon #214, p. 58, and Dragon #350, page 59.
Kaddas
An ancient empire. Its capital is Kaddastrei. The city of Blackwall was once part of it. From Cityscape.
Karawenn
From the First Quest novels. Possibly on Mystara.
Karpri
Water world. Spelljammer, Realmspace.
Kellinon
A Material Planar nation, Well of Worlds
Knell
A Material Planar nation, PSMC3, 108
Kofuspace
A solid crystal sphere filled with bubbles. SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg. 52. Similar to Eloysia.
Korvspace
Sphere of the elvish Korvadan Empire. Polyhedron #81
Kra'akenspace
Air-filled sphere of floating islands. SJA4 Under the Dark Fist 52
Kreenspace
Thri-Kreen of Athas, p. 84.
Krynn
Taladas: Time of the Dragon boxed set
Ansalon: Dragonlance campaign setting
Otherlands: Otherlands campaign expansion
Adlatum: http://www.dlnexus.com/adlatum/ (fanon)
Kule
Also called Celene and the Handmaiden. Spelljammer, Greyspace. Polyhedron #113.
Lirak's Cube
The Maelstrom's Eye, 54. Complete Spacefarer's Handbook, 78.
Logicus
Mechanical world of dabus and modrons. From Doors to the Unknown.
Lolth's Prison - Q1
Lorpulanspace
TCMC6 The Ultimate Helm pg.7
Lostspace
Ruined sphere. SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg. 52. See also World of the Lost Ones, above.
Lurienia
The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook, 121, Elven fortress world.
Mahasarpa
James Wyatt's Indian-themed campaign setting. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20011019a
Malena
An "extra-dimensional world," the primary setting of Module CN2 Conan the Mercenary. A kingdom of light and goodness invaded by the King of Demons, Yama.
Manifest
The city of the ghostly dead in the Ghostwalk campaign setting. Surrounded by various countries: Bazareene, Salkiria, etc.
Matera
Mystara's visible moon. Wrath of the Immortals. I11 Needle.
Masg
Dragon #244. Home of the Masgai. Capital city called Rig-Veda.
Moragspace
Scro-dominated sphere. The planets have been devoured by gammaroids. SJS1 Goblins' Return pg.7, SJQ1 Heart of the Enemy pg.81
Mystara
Known World: D&D Gazetteer Series
Savage Coast: Savage Coast Campaign Setting
Hollow World: Hollow World Campaign Setting
Blackmoor: Dave Arneson's Blackmoor Campaign Setting (set 4000 BC)
Thunder Rift
Ghyr
Nehwon
Lankhmar campaign setting, based on Fritz Lieber's books. Deities & Demigods, Legends & Lore, Lankhmar softcover, etc.
Neirston
Dead Gods, 12. Portal key = beauty.
Nexspace
TCMC5 The Broken Sphere pgs.90-91, 139
Nightlock
The original planet where the drow that settled on Krynn came from. (2nd edition Dragonlance Wild Elves supplement).
Nightworld of Vlad Tolenkov - Q1
Nivil
Practical Planetology, 40
Nubis
Practical Planetology, 37
Oerth
Flanaess: World of Greyhawk campaign setting, From the Ashes, The Adventure Begins, Living Greyhawk Gazetteer
Sundered Empire: Described in the Chainmail Miniatures Game, and Dragon #286-294.
Hepmonaland: The Scarlet Brotherhood
Amedio Jungle: The Scarlet Brotherhood
Fireland: Dragon Annual #1
Celestial Imperium: Dragon Annual #1
New Empyrea: Frank Mentzer's Aquaria campaign, detailed in RPGA modules R1-R4, and the Egg of the Phoenix supermodule.
Old Alphatia (The Star Kingdoms)
The homeworld of the Alphatian people from Mystara. Mentioned in the Dawn of the Emperors boxed set, Wrath of the Immortals, and in adventure M1: Into the Maelstrom
Ortho
Harmonium homeworld. From The Factol's Manifesto.
Ouiyanspace
The birthplace of The Spelljammer. Also known as The Broken Sphere. TCMC6 The Ultimate Helm pg.246+
Pangaea
Magic Encyclopedia, Volume One, page 8, 12, 13. The world where the wizard Prismal the Outrageous was born. Contains two named cities: Electropolis and Chamshaea, on opposite sides of the planet.
Passarspace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.52
Patera
Mystara's invisible moon. Also called Myoshima. Princess Ark series, Champions of Mystara.
Pathspace
Sphere of the planet Devis. TCMC2 Into the Void pg.10
The Pearls
The Broken Sphere, 308. A constellation of six unnamed crystal spheres.
Pelinore
A D&D campaign world from Imagine Magazine, the official periodical of TSR UK. Pelinore is a flat world that grows toward extreme alignments near the edge and perfect balance in the center. Beyond the edge is a void of nothingness, from which the gods arrived. Pelinore includes the sprawling, multicultural City League.
Pellham
From module C4, To Find a King, and C5, The Bane of Llywelyn. Worships the Celtic pantheon.
Penumbra
Artificial flatworld that surrounds a sun. Created by the illithids during the heyday of their empire. Detailed in Dawn of the Overmind by Bruce R. Cordell. Located in the sphere of Truespace.
Lands of the People
A continent based on North America. Dragon #205.
Parcelius
Into the Void, 200.
Plata
Practical Planetology 46
Pirtelspace
Dungeon #36, 45
Polyhedron #114 world
"A World of Your Own" by Roger E. Moore. I have no idea what the proper name of this is. Possibly in Darkspace? It's a world where the sun died, inhabited by berserk elves, living vampires, and necromancy run rampant.
Primespace
TCMC5 The Broken Sphere pg.202
Psurlon homeworld
Dark Sun MC II, p. 82. Now destroyed.
Purity
Homeworld of the Xenos, an organization of human supremacists. The Complete Spacefarer's Handbook, 95.
Pyrespace
Pyrespace is based on the solar system presented in the Shadow of the Spider Moon article from Polyhedron #151/ Dungeon #92. AKA Spiderspace.
Radole
Practical Planetology, 13
The Realm
The home of the D&D cartoon show.
Redeye space
SJR1 Lost Ships pg.62
Refuge
Mercane world. "Rough Times on Refuge," Dragon Magazine #159, page 10
Raenei
Oerth's second moon. Also called Luna and the Mistress. Spelljammer, Greyspace. Return of the Eight.
Ranais
Dead Gods, page 52
World of the Red Forest
The locals worship Elishar, from 3e Deities & Demigods. The trees have red to orange trunks, purple or black leaves with silvery undersides. Described in Expedition to the Demonweb Pits; the world is currently being invaded by the forces of Lolth.
Reorx
World of mountains and chasms, inhabited by dwarves and gnomes. Spelljammer, Krynnspace
Rokugan
3rd edition Oriental Adventures. Also on this world are the realms of the Burning Sands and Ivory Kingdoms.
Rublia.
Uncaged: 120. Skeartim is a greater power there. Zadara the titan was once worshipped there.
The Factol's Manifesto, 83. Wemics Lethea & Lesander are from there. They were captured by the biologist Gorad Drummerhaven and brought to Sigil.
Salzarspace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.53
Sazaurspace
SJA1 Wildspace pg.3
Sea of Shadows
Lost Ships, 34.
Shadowspace
SJQ1 Heart of the Enemy pg.31
Shannara
Based on the Terry Brooks novels. Dragon #286.
Sirion
Fire world in Krynnspace. Spelljammer, Krynnspace
The Spectre
The Spectre, a flatworld. Spelljammer, Greyspace.
Spider Ship Garage - Q1
Spiral Desert
Invaded by Lolth, surface-dwelling drow, and giant trapdoor spiders. The drow keep humans, kobolds, and thri-kreen as slaves. Expedition to the Demonweb Pits
Ssirik Akuar
Illithid planet. Dragon #150, "The Sunset World."
Steel Star Space
SJR1 Lost Ships pg.56
Talangran
Dungeon #34.
Talaron
Homeworld of the Talaire. Complete Psion, Dragon #281. Destroyed by illithids.
Tékumel
The Empire of the Petal Throne RPG first published by TSR in 1975. Not technically D&D, but whatever. It used the same rules initially, from what I understand.
Tellene
The Kingdoms of Kalamar campaign setting.
Thalassa
Practical Planetology, 25
Thasiaspace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.53
Threnody
Kiaransalee's (destroyed) home world. Demihuman Deities
Tir
Dragon #244. Home to the Fainil and the Telvar. Perhaps also the home of the Xakhun drow clan.
Toril
Maztica - Maztica campaign setting
Zakhara - Al-Qadim campaign setting
Hordelands - The Horde boxed set
Shining South: A 3e hardcover
Unapproachable East: A 3e hardcover
Faerun - The Forgotten Realms campaign setting
Malatra - RPGA Living Jungle campaign
Evermeet: Evermeet sourcebook
Kara-Tur: Kara-Tur boxed set
Returned Abeir: 4th edition Forgotten Realms
Torus
Practical Planetology, 44
Troulos
A flatworld. From Legend of the Spelljammer, page 8.
Truegard
A dwarven empire that spans a continent; mentioned in Expedition to the Demonweb Pits. Probably located on the world of Guldor.
Tuimuhva
Tales From the Infinite Staircase, page 19. Contains the metropolis of Gunthis.
Uerth
A reverse-alignment mirror version of Oerth. Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk[/b]. Other versions of Oerth include Yarth, Earth, and Aerth.
Unipaxala
"The Peace Asteroid." TSR Worlds Annual #1, Spelljammer comic #3-4
Verdorth
Druid world. PSMC3, page 96
Vergonspace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.53
Vistaspace
Garrash planet
TCMC5 The Broken Sphere pg.201, 213, SJR4 pg.22
Vodonispace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.51
Vodonika
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.53
Wayspace
TCMC2 Into the Void pg.186
Westeros
The setting of George R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire." Dragon #305.
Winterspace
Sphere of the planets Armistice and Radole.
The Cloakmaster Cycle: The Radiant Dragon pg.24-30, 49. SJR4 pgs.10, 13
Wheel of Time
The Wheel of Time Roleplaying Game, The Prophesies of the Dragon
Zalanispace
SJA4 Under the Dark Fist pg.53
Zivilyn
Accursed gaseous world. Spelljammer, Krynnspace. 12 moons.
Zphidnin
The Maelstrom's Eye, 54.

But nothing really compared to Planescape.

No Planescape was the pinnacle of D&D settings and the best metasetting in any RPG I've ever seen

[Stormfury]

So basically if I encountered Lloth in D&D, it is the same Lloth from FR?

Ehhh... yes and no.

If by "DnD" you mean the default setting of Greyhawk, they are the same goddess who has the same goals. However, they don't have the same power levels and abilities in both settings; Lolth is rather more powerful and active in Greyhawk than she is in the Forgotten Realms.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Eh, you got that backwards, Stormfury.  Lolth was an intermediate goddess in Greyhawk but a major goddess in Forgotten Realms, in large part due to Drow being a more major power in the setting.

In 1st and 2nd Edition, deities like Lolth and Bahamut were active between campaign settings- the Lolth that Drow in Greyhawk prayed to was the same Lolth that Drow in the FR prayed to.  This changed in 3rd Edition, when each of the campaign settings were completely sundered from each other and there wasn't any sort of connection between them any more.  At that point, we had two campaign settings with deities that were identical in name and portfolio, but they didn't share the same experiences: if a particularly adventurous group of heroes ended up practicing a little deicide in one setting (and it became canon), it had absolutely no impact on that deity in any other settings.

[Stormfury]

Eh, you got that backwards, Stormfury.  Lolth was an intermediate goddess in Greyhawk but a major goddess in Forgotten Realms, in large part due to Drow being a more major power in the setting.

Hm. I got the impression she was up to a bit more in Greyhawk than in the Realms, where she's classed at DR 15- she's an Intermediate Deity there, and her entry in Faiths and Pantheons has a sidebar noting she's the same as the Lolth in Greyhawk. EDIT: Just checked the SRD. Greyhawk!Lolth is at DR 16, whereas Forgotten Realms!Lolth is at DR 15. So the Greyhawk Lolth is about as powerful and active as Kelemvor in the Forgotten Realms, which is a bit of a difference.

The big change from the multiverse model was for 4th/5th edition; 3rd/3.5 edition still had it, and Planescape, though the latter was only recognisable as such if you knew about it from AD&D already.

[doulos05]

Below is a complete list of "worlds" and "settings" published by major publishers for D&D through the editions.  I've played or DM'ed for most of them.  (I also have literally just over a quarter ton of RPG books)  Though if you've trawled the web since the 90s you've probably seen literally thousands of D&D settings, and some of them were better than published settings and had fiction associated better than many published novels.  My "D&D" folder alone on my computer is over 30GB.No Planescape was the pinnacle of D&D settings and the best metasetting in any RPG I've ever seen

:o :o
You win. I have a feeling you didn't even know it was a contest, and I haven't the foggiest idea what the prize is. But you win.

[Lazarus Jaguar]

Below is a complete list of "worlds" and "settings" published by major publishers for D&D through the editions.  I've played or DM'ed for most of them.  (I also have literally just over a quarter ton of RPG books)  Though if you've trawled the web since the 90s you've probably seen literally thousands of D&D settings, and some of them were better than published settings and had fiction associated better than many published novels.  My "D&D" folder alone on my computer is over 30GB.No Planescape was the pinnacle of D&D settings and the best metasetting in any RPG I've ever seen

I notice you don't have Lodoss  :P

Of course , yeah, that wasn't rleased on this continent.  I'dlove to see what the setting material was seperate from the anime tough.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The big change from the multiverse model was for 4th/5th edition; 3rd/3.5 edition still had it, and Planescape, though the latter was only recognisable as such if you knew about it from AD&D already.

Only in the core setting.  None of the other setting used the same multiiverse, this was explicitly stated.

[Bedwyr]

Holy Moley that's a list and a half.

[RunandFindOut]

Holy Moley that's a list and a half.

Thirty years of being the most popular RPG on the planet will do that.  At 12 font it's 12 pages long.

I notice you don't have Lodoss  :P

Of course , yeah, that wasn't rleased on this continent.  I'dlove to see what the setting material was seperate from the anime tough.

Yeah, I never got hold of any of the Lodoss material.  Would have loved to but never got the chance and it was so long ago I've never seen any for sale.  I've never even found them on the online sources like Noble Knight and other trading sites.  Anybody that has them isn't giving them up, or doesn't speak English and interact with that part of the internet.

[Stormfury]

Only in the core setting.  None of the other setting used the same multiiverse, this was explicitly stated.

Nowhere I've seen- Faiths and Pantheons, just as one example, has that section saying "Yes, this is the same goddess as in Greyhawk." It wasn't until the 4th and 5th editions that they decided to make every setting completely seperate.

[RunandFindOut]

Nowhere I've seen- Faiths and Pantheons, just as one example, has that section saying "Yes, this is the same goddess as in Greyhawk." It wasn't until the 4th and 5th editions that they decided to make every setting completely seperate.

All through 3e it's explicit in the Core Settings and while not explicitly called out in the non-core settings they were created such that their independent cosmologies can be easily integrated into the core Great Wheel/Planescape setup.

[pensiveswetness]

how does the DDO settings of Eberron and FR apply to the game? (cannon? Noncannon?)

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

It's canon to the Eberron campaign setting.

Nowhere I've seen- Faiths and Pantheons, just as one example, has that section saying "Yes, this is the same goddess as in Greyhawk." It wasn't until the 4th and 5th editions that they decided to make every setting completely seperate.

Which directly contradicted what had been said in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, Manual of the Planes, and Planer Handbook, which all three confirmed that the Great Tree used in 3rd Edition Forgotten Realms wasn't connected to the Great Wheel, taken from the 2nd Planescape Campaign setting, that the 3rd Edition Core used, while in 2nd Edition, the FR was connected to the Great Wheel.  The books gave ways for GMs to change that, but all of them were simply GM options and not canon in either setting.

[Darth Nichos]

Wow that's a lot of material; So D&D is the overall product while the other things are sorts of expansions/add-on material?

[Stormfury]

It's canon to the Eberron campaign setting.

Which directly contradicted what had been said in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, Manual of the Planes, and Planer Handbook, which all three confirmed that the Great Tree used in 3rd Edition Forgotten Realms wasn't connected to the Great Wheel, taken from the 2nd Planescape Campaign setting, that the 3rd Edition Core used, while in 2nd Edition, the FR was connected to the Great Wheel.  The books gave ways for GMs to change that, but all of them were simply GM options and not canon in either setting.

The Great Tree was just the Forgotten Realms' conception of how the other planes work. The Planes themselves were the same- there's trading companies from Sigil-with-the-numbers-filed-off in the Realms, for starters, and the novels and other material feature the same Heavens and Hells (and everything in between) visited in other settings.

Wow that's a lot of material; So D&D is the overall product while the other things are sorts of expansions/add-on material?

DnD is the overall product. The rest are settings and support material for it.

[Darth Nichos]

Ok now I understand; thanks for the replies

[RunandFindOut]

The Great Tree was just the Forgotten Realms' conception of how the other planes work. The Planes themselves were the same- there's trading companies from Sigil-with-the-numbers-filed-off in the Realms, for starters, and the novels and other material feature the same Heavens and Hells (and everything in between) visited in other settings.

In fact this was explicitly called out in 3e FR products.  The Great Tree was a planar map created by people in the Realms but was using the existing Great Wheel cosmology and totally compatible with it.  The different names and lines drawn between them had no mechanical setting changes.

Similarly Eberron was designed such that while they portrayed the planes differently (as orbiting bodies that waxed and waned) the Planes themselves were specifically arranged so that they could be placed as regions within pre-existing Great Wheel planes.

[pensiveswetness]

then you have Eberron where halflings ride Dinosaurs. RAWR,  >:D

[Istal_Devalis]

Thirty years of being the most popular RPG on the planet will do that.  At 12 font it's 12 pages long.Yeah, I never got hold of any of the Lodoss material. 

I think you're cheating by using Spelljammer worlds, but that's still a really impressive list.

[Wrangler]

I was sadden when Spelljammer was killed off and demoted in 4th ed, when it became just a dimenionsal vehicle verse actual magic starship. 

I wonder what 5th ed going be like. i know their continuning to use Forgotten Realms as the standard back drop.

[Stormfury]

then you have Eberron where halflings ride Dinosaurs. RAWR,  >:D

Dark Sun had cannibal halflings.