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Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« on: 24 October 2023, 20:02:24 »


Tranh Truk Ngo

 A rebel leader leading rebels against Amaris, Helena learned his darkest secret at Elbar-the man is dying of an incurable disease.  This man led charges against 'mechs from the back of a barely-adequate Personnel carrier and broke fortresses through sheer crackhead focus and the lives of his countrymen.  (Not sure what admirable traits she might remember beyond that ruthlessness and charisma).  Ngo would never have been accepted into any SLDF or House unit had he not built his army himself.



Anh Cu'ong 102(yes I'm using the same image)

 The 'professional', a Spacer, known for dropping the rocks that led to the end of Rim Worlds domination on Kowloon and in that system.  Improviser, logistics genius, nauseated by going surface-side, but everything the ground commander wasn't in terms of diplomatic skill as a negotiator.  Ex-SLN, formerly a wanted pirate and smuggler, had to be pardoned for crimes committed pre-war.



Saul Maskowitz

 Elbar survivor, part of Ngo's staff after Running Deer Mountain.  Former SLDF Special Forces.

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #1 on: 25 October 2023, 03:16:35 »
Perfect selections so far! :)

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #2 on: 27 October 2023, 23:09:52 »
Now for some new comers to the story:



Bianh Vu Dao

Gifted Starship navigator and born Spacer (Rockjack).



Alicia Li

Acting leader of Kowloon's paramilitary police force in the outer system (The Coast Guard).  4th Succession War vet, left AFFC service after completing her tour rather than remaining in the Regulars.  Li is every inch the professional military spacer.  Notable trait: Severe Planetophobia (progressive).  Sits on the Board of Ngo Industries, and holds the ceremonial seat for the Boojum belt and moon systems.

Special note: Li is a member of Heimdall.



Evelynn James Mosovich(pre-Tamar)

Former Kommandant, 26th Lyran Guards, lost her face at Tamar (Patient Status), currently in the running for Elizabeth Ngo's Ducal Seat due to being the widow of Patrick Ngo (died in the same action).  The reconstruction that saved her life left her with a 'face for radio' and an artificial voice fit for silent movies.  Highly effective tactician in ground warfare.  Baroness Golden Lake District, Kowloon.

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« Reply #3 on: 27 October 2023, 23:22:16 »
And I might see what I can do for new images for Helena and Elizabeth Cameron since they've kind of role reveresed for this story.

But for now I should go ahead and post Helena's staff/protection detail.



Lieutenant Fletcher, Jacob Irons

Commander of Helena's tiny bodyguard detail, Royal Black Watch officer, loyal to Helena unto death.  He is also insisting that the other support members of Helena’s detail take up bodyguard training to get the maximum effect of the tiny detail.



Dr. Caprice, Majery Thoms

Helena's personal physician, one of the best doctors in the 28th century, former chair of exotic medicine, Oxford University Terra.  Was fortunately away from Terra at a conference on New Avalon at the start of the Amaris Crises.



Sgt. Dhaim, Muhammed

Reputed to be a man with no fear, this hardened veteran is absolutely devoted to the duty of protecting the First Lord.  Devoted Muslim.



Corporal Smythe, Bertha

Her Majesty's valet since the Escape.  Somewhat cunning and often spouting naive statements that don't match with her crafty actions unless you look at it crossways.



Corporal Anderson, Samantha

Pulled from a marine billet to supplement Helena’s protection detail Samantha is a wizard with a communications set, which often takes people by surprise.  She’s a bit unsure of herself and if she can really live up to the responsibility placed upon her but earnestly tries her best no matter what.



Dayyan, Moshe L

Private Moshe Dayyan is an Elbar Survivor who managed to impress someone in the chain of command enough to get assigned to Helena's bodyguard detail.  He will obey any order she gives him, without hesitation or consideration, and he's an outright gifted stealthy killer, with a good instinct for spotting physical dangers.  Moshe is unassuming and often carries her Majesty's 'briefcase', and has a talent for fading into the background.  (the joke being he could hide in a featureless white room).  Dayyan is ethnically jewish, but non-practicing.  What his life was before he was sent to Running Deer Mountain remains somewhat shrouded. [note: He was there on purpose-infiltrating as part of the Elbar Resistance]  Moshe speaks multiple languages, including German, Hebrew, Vietnamese, French, Greek, and Latin.



Engineering 1st Class Jennings, Rachel Anne

Rachel Jennings came to Elbar with the 1st Coast Guard (Kowloon).  Prior to that, she was a Rockjack and member of the anti-Amaris resistance in the Kowloon system.  She's a gifted technician almost without regard for what you're fixing.  She is also Kowloonese(Hatter subcolony in the system), making her one of the few crew that even the ship's AI has problems communicating with or understanding, though this doesn't extend to any technical problems that might come up.  Rachel is a practicing "Ell-Dee-Ess"  (a variant strain of Christian), though not a very good one.  (she also lapses into buddhism, occasionally swears in hebrew, and has a collection of catholic religious iconography among the other elements of faiths she seems drawn to.)
Physically Rachel is more muscular than most women, having grown up in the Hatter Mining burrow on the mercury-like first planet in the Kowloon system.  Notably, Rachel tends to pray whenever the ship is going to jump.

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #4 on: 28 October 2023, 07:49:59 »
Either I missed it before, or Lieutenant Fletcher has gained a cyber-eye...

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #5 on: 28 October 2023, 11:30:31 »
One of the frustrating parts of the art bot.  He's not called out as having one but the image I gave him seems to certainly imply it.

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« Reply #6 on: 28 October 2023, 11:49:54 »
At the height of the Star League, I don't think it would be called out as exceptional... ;)

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« Reply #7 on: 28 October 2023, 15:55:29 »
While I still grapple with if an existing art bit I have will work or if I should make the artbot take cracks at Elizabeth Jane Cameron and Helena Cameron I have this to tide you all over:



Elizabeth Ann Ngo circa drug rehab(3040s) on Donegal



Elizabeth Ann Ngo circa 3053-55 or so.

Duchess of Kowloon, Baroness Spider Moon, Chairwoman of the board Ngo Enterprises.  Medically calculated lifespan 34 years, Cholmann's syndrome patient, juvenile delinquent, local warlord of the Kowloon system, "Loyal" Lyran subject.  Owns the largest tooling contractor left in the Lyran Commonwealth after four succession wars.  Physically: Sickly, small, stunted growth due to the 'medications's she's taking.  Socially stunted as well.  Ruthless to herself as much as she is to her enemies, currently using 'soft drugs' to mitigate increasing chronic pain and sleeplessness.  Likely to be on Neuroin by the end of 3057, likely to die in agony and insanity by 3067/3068.  Medical disqualification from Military Service code 4M (Medical), subsection 18, (No Waiver permitted).  Helena may note similar behavioral and thought patterns with her ancestor Tranh Truk Ngo.  Gifted economist.  (this version will not be a gifted navigator.)



Miss Whyte

Corporate Counsel for Ngo Industries and subsidiaries, comptroller for Ngo Corporate Credit Union, there's been a 'Ms. Whyte' since 2786, it's a generational title and role… they always dress in white, they are always white-haired, they tend to be tall, and speak with the clipped accent of a Spacer, and they always seem to be very good lawyers.  The current Ms Whyte is dark skinned and likely bleaches her hair, and has served in the role since the death of Elizabeth's Grandfather in 3046.
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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #8 on: 28 October 2023, 15:58:03 »
Ms. Whyte's text and image aren't matching... ???

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« Reply #9 on: 28 October 2023, 16:04:27 »
I know not of what you speak.  :P
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« Reply #10 on: 28 October 2023, 16:28:29 »
Okay sat down with the Artbot after all for Helena but I'm kind of torn and since I know Cannonshop and Daryk aren't the best at voting I'll go ahead and put the two that are my finalists for this version of Helena here to see what people think.



Option 1.



Option 2.

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #11 on: 28 October 2023, 17:13:01 »
I thought Helena was blonde? ???

And that's a MUCH better Ms. Whyte! :)

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #12 on: 28 October 2023, 17:24:54 »
Again as with the Revenants thread it's not officially stated anywhere that I know of what Helena's hair color was and the only color artwork I have found is for Richard who has brown hair.  So while siblings are not always going to have the same hair/eye color it is a high probability and with Richard having brown blond is a reduced probability.  So until we get something more definitive she gets brown.

Though I'm not opposed to the idea that she's taken to dying her hair or does have a different hair color in this setting if enough people think I should switch it up a bit.

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #13 on: 28 October 2023, 17:44:12 »
Option 2 for Helena gets my vote, she looks more like someone who has had hard experiences.

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« Reply #14 on: 28 October 2023, 17:54:08 »
Yeah I think I've just been needing that little extra push to go with that second one.  It does look older and while I like certain aspects of the first one in their own way(uniform details, in particular the wearing of gloves) the second does just have that harder life look while having it's own details I like in different ways.

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« Reply #15 on: 28 October 2023, 18:24:43 »
Between the two, I think the gloves say more about her, and like that better...

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« Reply #16 on: 28 October 2023, 19:23:21 »
Between the two, I think the gloves say more about her, and like that better...

And there goes Daryk reminding me why it is such a difficult decision for me.

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« Reply #17 on: 28 October 2023, 19:56:02 »
Until Google decides to cooperate again, that's the best I can do... ;)

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« Reply #18 on: 28 October 2023, 20:05:14 »
I do wish you were local because I don't get what is going on.  I even went through the trouble of sending the links to an e-mail account of mine that has no google account associated at all with it and had no trouble editing and commenting.  Never once asked me to login or anything.  And yes I checked to make sure my browser hadn't automatically logged me in.

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« Reply #19 on: 29 October 2023, 05:34:11 »
Of course, if we were local, we'd actually be PLAYING BattleTech too... ;)

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« Reply #20 on: 31 October 2023, 08:37:20 »
Official entry time.  I've decided I agree with Daryk, that the first has enough hints she's been through something that when combined with the small extra details ultimately wins out but only by a narrow margin.



Helena Jessica Cameron

Youngest daughter of the Cameron trio.  She only survived because Amaris got distracted by Elizabeth and this gave Helena and Elizabeth a chance to escape.  Kerensky kept her hidden and secret aboard the CASPAR that housed Elizabeth’s core because he saw that Helena was a stabilizing influence on the Warship.  A very small detachment, the lack of proper accommodations meant no more than a medical staff and a handful of bodyguards of the Royal Black Watch was maintained aboard the vessel just in case though.

For this incarnation Helena was never actually pregnant.  She just happened to be gaining some weight and an offhand joke by Elizabeth got misheard and taken out of context that then blew up into the tabloids making her life miserable that she was supposedly pregnant that persisted past the point she fell into the clutches of Amaris and his goons.

Special note I(monbvol) will never officially confirm just how far Richard’s abuses against Helena actually went in this timeline but I will say I am inclined to go with that he was indeed one of her tormentors because it is called out in his official CGL write up that he did abuse Helena.



Elizabeth Jane Cameron(AI)

Elder daughter of the Cameron trio. Amaris instead of executing her he thought he would turn her into his personal plaything and if he was feeling generous, maybe pass around to his most loyal supporters and troops.  Indeed this was his plan for both Cameron sisters and as such he spared no expense or effort on the remotes for both the Cameron sisters and there is some question about what kind of other special features he placed in them as Elizabeth is now extremely forward and provocative, nearly always making double entendres and other sexual innuendo.

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Re: Beyond Hope Character Art Gallery and Directory
« Reply #21 on: 31 October 2023, 08:52:16 »
So that should leave me with just Linda Sithers for someone who needs artwork.  But really before I can do that I really could use more details for her.

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« Reply #22 on: 31 October 2023, 16:03:04 »
Cannonshop's version of her in the actual War Lord Elizabeth (the orc) story stuck with me the most... ;)

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« Reply #23 on: 01 November 2023, 12:40:16 »
So that should leave me with just Linda Sithers for someone who needs artwork.  But really before I can do that I really could use more details for her.

Linda Sithers: (current story)

Age: 31
Ethnicity: Belta (Caucasian/Asian/polynesian mix)

Height: (english measurements because I don't want to go through the hassle of metric conversions) 6'

Weight: 176 pounds.

Build: Dense/narrow athletic.

Hair: This week it's light brown, last week it was red, she only tried blonde once and it was a disaster.
Hair is kept shorter than required due to her Rockjack background and active service role (Hair should be no more than one, maybe two fingers deep, in a buzz-cut)

When her hair is allowed to grow out (either due to mission, or time off) it's a wavy/curly type and quite thick.

Eyes: Two, they're both blue.
Skin-tone is a "Permanent Tan" type often encountered in mixed race ethnicities and backgrounds.

Tattoos: Neck, scalp, around her eyes.

Affiliation: Lyran (Kowloonese Rockjack, Sithers-Deen affiliation)

Career notes;

Nav officer
Police training/investigation
(Specialist in personal crimes including abuse cases)

Tours:

Ship crew: Jumpship (apprenticeship)
Surface Tour: 5 years (3048 to 3053)
Ship Crew: jumpship (Journeyman's level)

Certified Pathfinder Jumpship officer (60 jumps, 10 of which were through non-standard points of diminished duration and size).

Marine Training: cross-trained MOS Marine Boarding specialist (Space).

Linda Sithers has specialist training in Gravity Operations and Civil Affairs missions. 

If Linda were a proper Lyran with her training and experience, she would be holding at minimum an O-3 rank, as it sits, she is ranked as a Lieutenant (O-2) with pay addendums for specific roles.

This relfects the "reduced rank in service" that the Coast Guard (and Kowloon Militia) hold in relation to LCAF Regulars or normal LCAF reserve units.

including a heavy reliance on NCO grades to handle positions that the LCAF uses junior officers for.

this translates in turn to "She is actually quite experienced even if she's very quiet about it."
"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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« Reply #24 on: 01 November 2023, 12:50:55 »
Linda Sithers: (current story)

Age: 31
Ethnicity: Belta (Caucasian/Asian/polynesian mix)

Height: (english measurements because I don't want to go through the hassle of metric conversions) 6'

Weight: 176 pounds.

Build: Dense/narrow athletic.

Hair: This week it's light brown, last week it was red, she only tried blonde once and it was a disaster.
Hair is kept shorter than required due to her Rockjack background and active service role (Hair should be no more than one, maybe two fingers deep, in a buzz-cut)

When her hair is allowed to grow out (either due to mission, or time off) it's a wavy/curly type and quite thick.

Eyes: Two, they're both blue.
Skin-tone is a "Permanent Tan" type often encountered in mixed race ethnicities and backgrounds.

Tattoos: Neck, scalp, around her eyes.

Affiliation: Lyran (Kowloonese Rockjack, Sithers-Deen affiliation)

Career notes;

Nav officer
Police training/investigation
(Specialist in personal crimes including abuse cases)

Tours:

Ship crew: Jumpship (apprenticeship)
Surface Tour: 5 years (3048 to 3053)
Ship Crew: jumpship (Journeyman's level)

Certified Pathfinder Jumpship officer (60 jumps, 10 of which were through non-standard points of diminished duration and size).

Marine Training: cross-trained MOS Marine Boarding specialist (Space).

Linda Sithers has specialist training in Gravity Operations and Civil Affairs missions. 

If Linda were a proper Lyran with her training and experience, she would be holding at minimum an O-3 rank, as it sits, she is ranked as a Lieutenant (O-2) with pay addendums for specific roles.

This relfects the "reduced rank in service" that the Coast Guard (and Kowloon Militia) hold in relation to LCAF Regulars or normal LCAF reserve units.

including a heavy reliance on NCO grades to handle positions that the LCAF uses junior officers for.

this translates in turn to "She is actually quite experienced even if she's very quiet about it."

Yeah I'll probably have to sit down with the art bot and hope it'll give that particular combo.

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« Reply #25 on: 01 November 2023, 18:37:09 »
Heck, that's more than enough for me to take a swing at her in AToW this weekend... ;)

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« Reply #26 on: 01 November 2023, 19:43:55 »
I'd like to get something a bit better for her outfit but:



That work for Linda Sithers?

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« Reply #27 on: 01 November 2023, 19:46:21 »
I think that's a perfect Seether on liberty (lazy eye or no)... ;D

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« Reply #28 on: 01 November 2023, 19:51:31 »
I kept going anyway to get some options:



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« Reply #29 on: 01 November 2023, 20:04:47 »
And a minor spoiler but one I'm pretty sure people are expecting:



Daphne Rowe

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« Reply #30 on: 01 November 2023, 20:17:51 »
Man, the bot is almost as bad with eyes as it is with fingers... ::)

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« Reply #31 on: 01 November 2023, 20:22:05 »
Yes, yes it is.

But Cannonshop says he likes this one better for Daphne Rowe:


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« Reply #32 on: 01 November 2023, 20:30:13 »
The braids make it, yeah! :)

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« Reply #33 on: 01 November 2023, 20:34:11 »
And Cannonshop's vote is the remaining images(I axed the one we both agreed looked a bit goofy for Linda) for Linda Sithers can represent her at various different stages in her life/career.  And yeah I think I can see that working.

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« Reply #34 on: 01 November 2023, 20:59:20 »
Hi guys, if you don't mind.  I can fix the odd eyes and stuff like that when I'm ready upload to the wiki.
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« Reply #35 on: 01 November 2023, 21:06:50 »
Go for it.

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« Reply #36 on: 04 November 2023, 10:21:33 »
Hmmm... I'm sketching out Linda Sithers, and coming up with 35 for age:

Affiliation: Lyran/Coventry Province (+Rockjack)

Stage 1: Blue Collar (10 years)

Stage 2: Spacer Family (6 years)

Technical College: 4 years
Communications (1 year, Civil Affairs cert, probably via remote course)
DropShip Pilot (Civilian) 1 year
JumpShip Pilot (2 years, Navigation training)

Military Enlistment: 3.5 years
Basic Training (Naval) 0.5 year
Ship's Crew (1.5 years)
Marine (1.5 years, Marine MOS)

Police Training: 3.5 years
Police Officer (0.5 year)
Detective (1 year)
Police Tactical Officer (2 years, Gravity Ops cert)

OCS: 1 year (possibly still in progress via remote course)

Tour of Duty: 3 years (split between apprentice and journeyman tours)

To Serve and Protect: 4 years (add in part of the Police Training to get to 5)

Aside from the 4 years of extra age, I think I can make everything fit... :)

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« Reply #37 on: 04 November 2023, 12:02:12 »
Speaking of art, I'm about to start archiving The story. Not having read it quite yet, does anyone have a feel on what the artwork should be what the general theme is? I've done art for the past Ngo stories but I don't have a good feel on what this one is about. Or the general feel initially.

That would help me.
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« Reply #38 on: 04 November 2023, 12:06:46 »
Helena and Elizabeth Cameron misjump forward in time (in a Caspar, with a small bodyguard) to about a week after Elizabeth Ngo removes Stonecipher as regent.  That enough for you?

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« Reply #39 on: 04 November 2023, 12:56:04 »
Helena and Elizabeth Cameron misjump forward in time (in a Caspar, with a small bodyguard) to about a week after Elizabeth Ngo removes Stonecipher as regent.  That enough for you?
Okay, I think I can work this out. As long as everyone's happy with I come up with.
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« Reply #40 on: 04 November 2023, 13:02:20 »
For bonus points, work in that Elizabeth Cameron IS the Caspar... ;)

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« Reply #41 on: 04 November 2023, 17:07:10 »
For bonus points, work in that Elizabeth Cameron IS the Caspar... ;)
So she a friendly ghost?  :grin:
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« Reply #42 on: 04 November 2023, 17:43:37 »
Heh! :D

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« Reply #43 on: 05 November 2023, 16:25:07 »
So I sorted out Jacob Iron's picture profile.  Non-screwed up eye, fingers fixed.
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« Reply #44 on: 05 November 2023, 16:26:06 »
Much better!  Now if I could just figure out what he's holding in his hand... ;)

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« Reply #45 on: 05 November 2023, 16:50:04 »
Just realized you can't take Communications and DropShip Pilot fields at the same time... that will shave a year off Technical College, bringing Linda down to 34... I'll have to figure something else out for her Civil Affairs cert... maybe another level or two of Protocol...

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« Reply #46 on: 05 November 2023, 18:12:13 »
Got her (Linda) to fit, and even have the option to take another -100 XP in Enemy (currently at -500 XP, "Major Underworld Lt."' next step is a "Major Underworld Boss").  She has 5 levels of Navigation/K-F, and has a base target number of 2.

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« Reply #47 on: 05 November 2023, 20:12:17 »
Much better!  Now if I could just figure out what he's holding in his hand... ;)

I believe it's a fancy cup.  I've seen something like that in animes.

What I think would be challenge is a image of the character,  Evelynn Mosovich.   She supposed to have some serious surgery. Including...having eyes like Batou from Ghost in the Shell.




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« Reply #48 on: 05 November 2023, 21:04:00 »
I think that's the vibe Cannonshop has had in mind for her for a while now, yes...

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« Reply #49 on: 05 November 2023, 23:05:48 »
Which the artbot I use refuses to generate.

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« Reply #50 on: 05 November 2023, 23:20:58 »
Which the artbot I use refuses to generate.

Eyes are so critical to Anime conventions, especially for female characters, and teh bot you're using has an art style based on Manga/Anime methods and conventions, I'm honestly not terribly surprised the machine refuses to go down that route.
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« Reply #51 on: 05 November 2023, 23:25:06 »
Eyes are so critical to Anime conventions, especially for female characters, and teh bot you're using has an art style based on Manga/Anime methods and conventions, I'm honestly not terribly surprised the machine refuses to go down that route.

Indeed and age is another thing poorly portrayed in that art style.

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« Reply #52 on: 06 November 2023, 09:19:50 »
Indeed and age is another thing poorly portrayed in that art style.
Are most AI art programs like that?  I think the anime theme one that you're using I believe is the problem. I'm just not sure how to explain a cyborg with camera eyes to an ai. I'm not really had too much issue with a character's age, I think it depends on the program's theme and how advanced it is too.
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« Reply #53 on: 06 November 2023, 10:21:49 »
Are most AI art programs like that?  I think the anime theme one that you're using I believe is the problem. I'm just not sure how to explain a cyborg with camera eyes to an ai. I'm not really had too much issue with a character's age, I think it depends on the program's theme and how advanced it is too.

There are flesh-and-blood artists (and I don't mean hacks, good, solid, high quality creators here) who have trouble with those kind of instructions.  there was a period in the late 1990s/early 2000's where Marvel Comics kept drawing female characters who looked cartoony, this is the post-Liefeld era and some of it was a reaction to the creation of Image Comics and losing some of their top talent, but the people that they had weren't hacks-they just had problems conveying things like "Domino is middle aged", or that Sue Storm isn't a precocious preteen.

(I'm not going to go through the nightmare of finding exact images from that era...)

How bad was it? you know it's bad when Scarlet Witch looks like she's slightly YOUNGER than Jubilee.  (Wanda was, at the time, supposed to be late 20s early 30s and Jubilee was supposed to be about the age of a sophmore in High School, just to give you context.)

so the AI has a 'distinct style' and that style has some problems with my characters.  That's normal.  It may improve.
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« Reply #54 on: 06 November 2023, 12:30:01 »
There are flesh-and-blood artists (and I don't mean hacks, good, solid, high quality creators here) who have trouble with those kind of instructions.  there was a period in the late 1990s/early 2000's where Marvel Comics kept drawing female characters who looked cartoony, this is the post-Liefeld era and some of it was a reaction to the creation of Image Comics and losing some of their top talent, but the people that they had weren't hacks-they just had problems conveying things like "Domino is middle aged", or that Sue Storm isn't a precocious preteen.

(I'm not going to go through the nightmare of finding exact images from that era...)

How bad was it? you know it's bad when Scarlet Witch looks like she's slightly YOUNGER than Jubilee.  (Wanda was, at the time, supposed to be late 20s early 30s and Jubilee was supposed to be about the age of a sophmore in High School, just to give you context.)

so the AI has a 'distinct style' and that style has some problems with my characters.  That's normal.  It may improve.

In general it is always tough to show distinctions in certain details.  Age is the most obvious and immediate one.  It can be done with certain drawing styles but those styles tend to be too labor intensive for comic books and animation(western or eastern).

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« Reply #55 on: 06 November 2023, 17:59:46 »
I suspect Howard Tayler (Schlock Mercenary) managed it only because of his particular style...

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« Reply #56 on: 07 November 2023, 13:12:42 »
I revised Tranh's face.   Nothing I can do about his mouth but move it slightly up.  I had slight shorten his head litte, and I made eyes more match one another.

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« Reply #57 on: 18 December 2023, 20:54:47 »


Janet is a former Steel Viper and a trueborn Mechwarrior.  She went with Perigrad Zalman on his ill-fated trip to Kowloon’s surface and even made it to the surface in time for her mech to be caught up in the floodwaters.  One of the locals found her and started badgering her with questions about Clan intimate relations customs.  Her answers seemed to trigger him and they got into a fight when he called Janet a ‘slaving bitch whore’.  Seems this gave Janet some notoriety because the man she got into a fight with was the district (kick?) boxing champion.

Humiliated, humbled, Janet realized the fight for Kowloon and to rescue Helena Cameron was already decided before she even boarded the Dropship and thus her skills as a mechwarrior were irrelevant.  To soothe her warrior pride she petitioned for immigration and a spot with the Coast Guard where she is proving a motivated and able student.

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« Reply #58 on: 19 December 2023, 22:35:44 »
adding character, fixing her hand...

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« Reply #59 on: 23 December 2023, 19:39:01 »


Before she met Sarak ‘Why’ Yeh Gabrielle was known to actually be very violent, aggressive, and ill tempered.

Under his guidance she was tempered and able to channel such urges into more productive habits/behaviors.

She enjoys all sorts of physical pursuits(athletics, camping, hiking, shooting) and is an avid reader, often being found in possession of ‘gray list’ books.

It was very much a surprise when she tested so highly upon entering Kowloon’s university program in Computer Science.

Eddie Vanh has very much caught her attention.



Mai Chan is absolutely loyal to the Capellan Confederation and despite her age was selected to attend the Academy at Kowloon because she is a near perfect example of the failings of the Capellan system.  For Mai is extremely bright with a photographic memory and in any other realm she would almost certainly have been sent to University and wound up on some research staff somewhere and gaining prominence doing that.  Instead she was put into service as a pilot and also proved quite able as an Aerospace pilot.  She survived the 4th Succession War and steadily gained promotions within the nascent naval arm.  So she was a natural choice for the CCN to send as a candidate.

She is very boisterous and self confident.



Morgan Icaza



After the debacle at Kowloon Sarah Ahmed was elected Khan of Clan Steel Viper despite her youth and lack of combat experience but her force of personality and ability to rally the touman along with fresh perspectives caused her to be nominated and voted in.

Through many close calls she was able to rally the remains of Clan Steel Viper to fend off successive attempts at absorption.  But it was a losing proposition and she knew it was just a matter of time before another Clan made a serious attempt she could not rebuff.

Part of it too was the stink of such a thorough and humiliating defeat did not make Clan Steel Viper particularly attractive to absorb.

3063 was when Stanislov N’Buta approached her.  Star adder had just suffered their own defeat and was now in peril of becoming absorbed as well.

The two struck a deal.  Steel Viper and Star Adder would merge.  A Trial would determine which one would be Khan and which saKhan.



Sarak ‘Why’ Yeh had started as something of a Ristar, gaining his bloodname at an early age.

What was not widely known was his necrosia addiction.  The visions he received from the necrosia caused him to start questioning everything.  And I do mean everything.

On the verge of being deemed abthaka or worse, Why Yeh managed to break his addiction but remained quite philosophical for a Clanner and was still on the verge of disgrace or worse.  But after the defeat of the Jaguars, Steel Vipers, and Star Adders his views saw increased popularity within his Clan in particular, enough he was suddenly on the rise to prominence again.
He was tapped to share his views with many other Clans in order to prepare their warriors for what was becoming known as the Total War.

That task completed he was selected to command the garrison cluster being sent to the Inner Sphere.

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« Reply #60 on: 23 December 2023, 19:41:10 »
Almost missed one.



Sean is an able Mechwarrior from the Davion half of the Federated Commonwealth.

Her family comes from a world rendered uninhabitable during the Succession Wars but because they continued to serve with distinction as mechwarriors of note the Davion family continued to recognize the title as valid.  This did much to uphold their social standing in Davion space.

Her father served with distinction during the 4th Succession War where he made a pivotal sacrifice of the family mech to save several fellow warriors from a Capellan counter attack on his unit.  For this act of devotion he was awarded a Battlemaster.

Sean’s mother was also a soldier that served with the AFFS and then AFFC.  She died while Sean was still fairly young during the Clan Invasion.

Her brother always having bouts and fits of madness was finally driven to the point of having to be permanently put into an institution.

This drove Sean’s father into a depression spiral where he tried to pull out of it by attempting a get rich quick scheme on Solaris but all that did was end up with the Battlemaster in hoc to one of the stables.  Her father continued on a path of proving that at least in his current state he was more Lyran Social General than Davion Noble and played the political game of always trying to curry favor and arrange marriages for Sean.

Sean to her credit loves her father and tolerates his interference as much as she can but has none of the arranged marriages but will make the most of any assignment her father manages to arrange for her.

She’s an able mechwarrior, able staffer, and could easily be a reasonably famous model or holovid star with her good looks.

In the fight between her Axman and the Tempest se barely survived with severe back injuries, while not completely truly paralyzed she was voluntold to partake in a medical research program at Kowloon and be a guinea pig for Gateway while at it.

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« Reply #61 on: 23 December 2023, 22:45:42 »
Aha!  That IS the correct spelling of Gabrielle's name... you'll need to do a global find and replace to fix it in the Google doc... :)

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« Reply #62 on: 23 December 2023, 23:06:25 »
Could of sworn I already did...

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« Reply #63 on: 24 December 2023, 05:31:33 »
Could of sworn I already did...

I'll eat that blunder,  it's likely I'm the reason it slipped through in a few places before we had our conversation and you told me why  you went with the masculine spelling.
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« Reply #64 on: 24 December 2023, 09:47:06 »
It was over a week ago when I last saw that creep in (in multiple places), so it may have been fixed by now.

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« Reply #65 on: 24 December 2023, 21:34:16 »
Does Sean have a last name?
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« Reply #66 on: 24 December 2023, 22:28:23 »
Blarg.  MacIntyre.  Same character from Sanity of War but a slightly different take for fun.

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« Reply #67 on: 25 December 2023, 10:16:51 »
Blarg.  MacIntyre.  Same character from Sanity of War but a slightly different take for fun.
Sean Blarg or Sean McIntrye?

I'm unfamiliar with Sanity of War.
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« Reply #68 on: 25 December 2023, 13:15:19 »
MacIntyre.

Blarg is an expression I use when I realize I make a stupid mistake.  D'oh also shows up.

And you have Sanity of War on your Wiki. :grin:

 

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