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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #360 on: 05 December 2015, 19:49:28 »
Or they increased Sibko production and recruitment while the Lev III was being built in anticipation of the ships launch. Then using those new green crews to replace PWS crews and other warship crew to give the new Lev III a working start up crew.

Plus don't forget that the rank and file "enlisted" don't have to go through the sibko training bottleneck since they are technician and laborer caste. 

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #361 on: 05 December 2015, 21:01:48 »
Plus don't forget that the rank and file "enlisted" don't have to go through the sibko training bottleneck since they are technician and laborer caste. 

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Also true. Crewing the new ship isn't as much of an issue as people think.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #362 on: 06 December 2015, 20:30:07 »
The more I think about this vessel, the more I believe that it is a plot device. It's the ilClan's Death Star.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #363 on: 06 December 2015, 20:43:10 »
The more I think about this vessel, the more I believe that it is a plot device. It's the ilClan's Death Star.

I agree.  That's why I said its name should be the Deus ex Machina .

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #364 on: 06 December 2015, 20:52:10 »
I agree.  That's why I said its name should be the Deus ex Machina .

Things can serve a role without being blatantly named as such.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #365 on: 06 December 2015, 21:00:58 »
Things can serve a role without being blatantly named as such.

Of course then can.  But that kind of humor is a tradition in Battletech... from the beginning all the way up to contemporary products.

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« Reply #366 on: 06 December 2015, 21:08:24 »
Of course then can.  But that kind of humor is a tradition in Battletech... from the beginning all the way up to contemporary products.

Not everyone appreciates it.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #367 on: 06 December 2015, 21:25:58 »
Fortunately, those who don't can be safely ignored.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #368 on: 06 December 2015, 21:35:12 »
Fortunately, those who don't can be safely ignored.

Like me? I'm sick of the stupid jokes, okay?
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #369 on: 06 December 2015, 21:54:43 »
In this situation, you are actually correct. As a moderator, I'm not allowed to use the Ignore function on anyone.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #370 on: 06 December 2015, 22:01:54 »
Like me? I'm sick of the stupid jokes, okay?

The whole world is aware. One would think that someone who encourages others not to harp on the same complaint over and over again would avoid doing the same.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #371 on: 06 December 2015, 22:17:39 »
Maybe CGBS Banhammer?   :D

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #372 on: 06 December 2015, 22:39:05 »
Of course then can.  But that kind of humor is a tradition in Battletech... from the beginning all the way up to contemporary products.
Eh, that would be a bit too much to me.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #373 on: 07 December 2015, 00:38:21 »
Eh, that would be a bit too much to me.

Pretty much. It's a shame really, because "God from the Machine" would have been a great name for some Word of Blake/Manei Domini superweapon if it didn't have so much literary baggage attached.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #374 on: 07 December 2015, 03:05:13 »
Maybe CGBS Banhammer?   :D
Has the Dominion kept their ship names prefixed with CGBS, or are they something like RDS now?

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« Reply #375 on: 07 December 2015, 05:42:12 »
In this situation, you are actually correct. As a moderator, I'm not allowed to use the Ignore function on anyone.

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Pretty much. It's a shame really, because "God from the Machine" would have been a great name for some Word of Blake/Manei Domini superweapon if it didn't have so much literary baggage attached.

See "Machina Domini" Interface Armor.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #376 on: 07 December 2015, 06:03:46 »
The more I think about this vessel, the more I believe that it is a plot device. It's the ilClan's Death Star.

I have to think of the *Tiamat* super warships presented in Ben Rome April Fools fake ilClan sneak preview.
Maybe the LevIII was this design behind.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #377 on: 07 December 2015, 09:09:11 »
Also true. Crewing the new ship isn't as much of an issue as people think.

Yep.  Aerospace sibko washouts would provide all the manpower needed and capitalize on the training they’ve already received.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #378 on: 07 December 2015, 09:26:19 »
Still don't have the record sheet for the ship modified with the Heavy Mass Driver attached to it.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #379 on: 07 December 2015, 11:24:04 »
Alshain, they will name it Alshain. What better name than there new Capitol World and one that is a garuntee to annoy the Combine enough that they will attack?
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #380 on: 07 December 2015, 11:29:25 »


All things considered this looks like an offensive weapon more than defensive (which would be aerospace fighter fleets), in keeping with the Bears' foreign policy: poke me and I'm coming for you with all phasers set to "GLASS!" The capital armament appears fairly moderate to be honest.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #381 on: 07 December 2015, 12:06:15 »
All things considered this looks like an offensive weapon more than defensive (which would be aerospace fighter fleets)

Shades of Hunt For Red October.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #382 on: 07 December 2015, 16:19:35 »
I still say Ursa Invictus is the perfect name. Of course the wall could drop and we find the Republic has built 20 McKennas...

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« Reply #383 on: 07 December 2015, 16:39:33 »
Alshain, they will name it Alshain. What better name than there new Capitol World and one that is a garuntee to annoy the Combine enough that they will attack?
If the Ravens get one, I would suggest the CSR New Samarkand. >:D

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #384 on: 07 December 2015, 18:01:58 »
Yep.  Aerospace sibko washouts would provide all the manpower needed and capitalize on the training they’ve already received.

Why?  You only need roughly 25-75 warriors (ie. Line officers) + whatever ASF pilots/Elementals you carry to crew the thing.  Clan WS doctrine dictates that non-Line officers (engineering, Med, Sensors, ect.) and enlisted crew (even the gunners) are not from the  warrior caste.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #385 on: 08 December 2015, 09:40:38 »
I still say Ursa Invictus is the perfect name. Of course the wall could drop and we find the Republic has built 20 McKennas...

Except the Wall has dropped, and we know they didn't.
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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #386 on: 08 December 2015, 14:48:26 »
Why?  You only need roughly 25-75 warriors (ie. Line officers) + whatever ASF pilots/Elementals you carry to crew the thing.  Clan WS doctrine dictates that non-Line officers (engineering, Med, Sensors, ect.) and enlisted crew (even the gunners) are not from the  warrior caste.

-Jackmc

Sounds like we're in agreement.  Washouts are not warriors.  They are civilians - technicians, laborers etc. 

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #387 on: 08 December 2015, 17:02:32 »
Except the Wall has dropped, and we know they didn't.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #388 on: 08 December 2015, 17:25:39 »
Some of us don't have tro 3150. After buying all the pdfs I decided against the print collections as well. I have gad A LOT of other expenses this year...

TRO 3150 doesn't tell us much anyway.  There are teasers, but that's it.  It entices conjecture about whether or not New Avalon has been captured rather than actually saying it did fall, for example.  The plot details that are given are so few and narrowly focused that the "is it a joke or isn't it" ilClan timeline where the HomeClans invade the Inner Sphere could already be underway while being compatible with what's given in 3150.  (I'm not saying it IS underway, mind you.. just that due to the lack of coverage on the big picture presented in TRO3150 leaves that much room open for a possibility of that magnitude)

So there's certainly room for the Republic to have unveiled any manner of nasty surprises that were deliberately not (yet) mentioned in TRO3150 so as not to spoil the official/real ilClan plot.

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Re: Leviathan III
« Reply #389 on: 08 December 2015, 17:51:33 »
Some of us don't have tro 3150. After buying all the pdfs I decided against the print collections as well. I have gad A LOT of other expenses this year...

I was referring more to Field Manual: 3145, which while being set just before the Fortress fell, makes pretty clear what the Republic had ready.
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