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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #780 on: 18 March 2018, 04:47:23 »
Weight should be 1.5 tons for one squad, they're Paratroopers.  AS card is correct.

Cool, so paratroopers are 1.5 tons, then... does that include Tau Wraiths, as they have PARA... in addition, in the list part, where it shows all of the infantry, both are listed at 1 ton, there.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #781 on: 21 March 2018, 16:37:34 »
I don't own a copy of TRO 3085, so I'm not able to verify with an official source, but Sarna states that the armament of an LGB-8V Longbow is two Arrow IV's with 8 tons of ammo and a single pulse laser, while the MUL Entry gives it the ARTAIS-2 special and far more firepower (and an OV value) than could be gained by a single pulse laser of any type could grant.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #782 on: 21 March 2018, 16:50:53 »
Sarna is incorrect.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #783 on: 23 March 2018, 22:55:28 »
Sarna entry has been corrected now stating that the Longbow 8V has 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, 1 ER Large, 10 rounds of missiles per launcher for the two Arrow IVs.  Battle value is from Record Sheet, which matches MUL entry.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #784 on: 03 April 2018, 01:50:36 »
These IndustrialMechs exist in the Reunification War book, but the MUL dates have them as being made after the war's conclusion. They are anachronisms.

BC Buster XV (Standard)
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #785 on: 05 April 2018, 17:33:03 »
Genadier II D battle armor lists the Tube Artillery special as ART-BA
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/7393/grenadier-ii-battle-armor-d

while the Centaur Battle Armor lists the ability as ARTBA-1
http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/6651/centaur-battle-armor-standard

Also, I don't believe Battle Armor Tube artillery is experimental tech any longer, so both units should be advanced and not experimental tech base if I'm correct? (Ref, Tac Ops pg. 284 lists them as Advanced, not experimental).


Xotl: Corrected.
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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #786 on: 04 May 2018, 17:15:27 »
All Revenant variants have wrong identifier. The core model is correctly listed as UBM-2R. All the other variants are listed as UM-2R*. According to TRO:3145 and RS:3145 Unabridged, this is incorrect. Variants should be listed as UBM-2R*.


Xotl: Corrected.

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #787 on: 09 May 2018, 07:57:29 »
page 102 of '3039 unabridged record sheets' has the BV for the Condor (Davion) at 577 but the MUL has 592, which one is correct?

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Re: Master Unit List (MUL) Feedback Thread II - READ THE FIRST POST
« Reply #788 on: 09 May 2018, 11:57:03 »
BV rules have had errata since 3039 Unabridged was released.  The MUL is much easier to update than the record sheet PDFs.
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« Reply #789 on: 24 June 2018, 20:47:20 »
bump - any opinion on modified availability for the -K?

Any thoughts on the availability of the -K model fire starter for SW era?

Given the 'Mirage' had only one year of production and is available to Steiner in Late SW plus the TRO has the only model not in production is the -A variant. The -H variant was described as the dominant production model.
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Any thoughts on the availability of the -K model fire starter for SW era?

Given the 'Mirage' had only one year of production and is available to Steiner in Late SW plus the TRO has the only model not in production is the -A variant. The -H variant was described as the dominant production model.

The statement that "one variant that has ceased production" is not meant to imply it is the only variant that has ceased production.  It also says "a number of variants..were built during the period Argile still operated on Skye.."  Argile was destroyed on Skye during the 3rd Succession War, so all the Firestarters from Argile ceased production.  The later statement that one variant ceased production "during hte period Argile still operated on Skye" can't possibly mean Argile was still producing any Firestarter variant after the factory was destroyed. So it also can't mean the -K was still in production.
The -K was never made by Coventry, and Argile only produced a very few post-2703. Perhaps there's still a handful somewhere, but it's questionable. Extinct is a better answer than saying any specific faction has any.  IE. It would be less misleading to continue saying extinct than to change the answer.
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Did Alshain Weapons manufacture the Grand Dragon in the 3020s, then close the line before 3054 (when Objective Raids was published)?  (Per Objective Raids, their ER PPC line on Tok Do supplies that component to LAW on Luthien for construction.)
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