Author Topic: Round 1 2015 Funding - Flashman FLS-8K Resculpt Funded !!!!!! (Read 55576 times)

Heavyguard · « **Reply #30 on:** 17 June 2015, 14:49:18 »

Maybe just a chest insert similar to the Pariah's shoulder weapons. Would only need 3 really, 1 for 7K/9B, 1 for 8K/9C/C and 1 for the 9M. Then with an AMS bit and 1 set of arms with different tips (tips + under bits for the 9M HPPCs - similar to Dolaire LPLs)

Heavyguard

jimdigris · « **Reply #31 on:** 17 June 2015, 15:23:57 »

I'm concerned that it looks like the arms are like the original sculpt. I'd like a ball and socket joint where the main part of the arm plugs into the shoulder assembly (see attachment). Specifically, the black circled part should be where the socket is.

B-3 · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 June 2015, 15:39:57 »

The Variant graphic was posted only to show the location of the different parts on each variant not as an design we are using. We are going with orthos based on the graphic I rounded the legs on.

IAMCLANWOLF · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 June 2015, 15:40:45 »

This thread is getting way ahead of itself...

Jim, that artwork is not a representation of what we are going to use for the final miniature.

Orthos are still a work in progress. I will post as soon as I am finished.

Yeesh, ya'll are real task masters, I tell ya... I just finished up the Griffin orthos... :D [whipit]

JK... ;)

B-3 · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 June 2015, 15:55:54 »

Quote from: IAMCLANWOLF on 17 June 2015, 15:40:45

This thread is getting way ahead of itself...

Jim, that artwork is not a representation of what we are going to use for the final miniature.

Orthos are still a work in progress. I will post as soon as I am finished.

Yeesh, ya'll are real task masters, I tell ya... I just finished up the Griffin orthos... :D [whipit]

JK... ;)

Less typing more Ortho drawing! [whipit] [whipit] [whipit] :D

IAMCLANWOLF · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 June 2015, 16:27:15 »

Phaha!

B-3 · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 June 2015, 16:41:00 »

I know, shudup n sculpt, right! :D

Lyran_Rainboom · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 June 2015, 16:51:58 »

It's hard to tell who's the dominant one in this relationship. ^-^

qc mech3 · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 June 2015, 19:52:33 »

Not the one who say ''apple'' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

B-3 · « **Reply #39 on:** 17 June 2015, 22:00:18 »

There can be only one. [skull]

klarg1 · « **Reply #40 on:** 18 June 2015, 08:48:30 »

Honestly, I would prefer not to switch the thing to pronounced digitigrade locomotion. It would be nice to see a cleaned up and improved version of the canon artwork, rather than a whole new battlemech. (I'll admit that pic #3 looks like it is probably supposed to be digitigrade, but with a much shallower knee angle, kind of like the Thug.)

I see where the odd, two-part structure of the upper leg in B-3's sketch, and in canon image #2 could be interpreted as a digitigrade joint, but there is also a knee-looking joint for normal locomotion right below it.

B-3 · « **Reply #41 on:** 18 June 2015, 10:51:56 »

I was looking at that odd leg setup in CA #2 and decided the piece between the upper and lower thigh pieces is a shock absorber not an extra joint. That leaves it a hip, knee and ankle leg setup.

ph423r · « **Reply #42 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:18:12 »

I'd like to put down $25 towards this.

klarg1 · « **Reply #43 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:20:38 »

Quote from: B-3 on 18 June 2015, 10:51:56

I was looking at that odd leg setup in CA #2 and decided the piece between the upper and lower thigh pieces is a shock absorber not an extra joint. That leaves it a hip, knee and ankle leg setup.

"Shock Absorber" is as good a guess as anybody is going to make, even if it is kind of an odd place to put one.

Perhaps we can relegate needless extra leg joints to TRO 3060, where they belong. (I wince just trying to imagine what a Kabuto's walking motion must look like #P )

(btw, B-3, your 2nd round concept sketches looked cool, just not what I expect from a Flashman O0 )

klarg1 · « **Reply #44 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:22:10 »

Quote from: B-3 on 17 June 2015, 15:39:57

The Variant graphic was posted only to show the location of the different parts on each variant not as an design we are using. We are going with orthos based on the graphic I rounded the legs on.

Based on that statement, and your excellent concept sketch, I'll chip in for $50.

To progress! [cheers]

Savage Coyote · « **Reply #45 on:** 18 June 2015, 16:31:56 »

put me down for 25. I can't pay till the first week of July since I'll be out of town and out of service for awhile

By my count that puts us as 775?

Haku · « **Reply #46 on:** 19 June 2015, 03:34:18 »

I count 825

Baron RedSkull · « **Reply #47 on:** 19 June 2015, 08:44:02 »

Using a calculator to total up all the pledges, I got $800 on the dot. I'm interested to see about variant bits.

B-3 · « **Reply #48 on:** 19 June 2015, 08:59:58 »

Quote from: Heavyguard on 17 June 2015, 14:49:18

Maybe just a chest insert similar to the Pariah's shoulder weapons. Would only need 3 really, 1 for 7K/9B, 1 for 8K/9C/C and 1 for the 9M. Then with an AMS bit and 1 set of arms with different tips (tips + under bits for the 9M HPPCs - similar to Dolaire LPLs)

Heavyguard

If we all agree that this list will cover the Variant bits then I will do them all for another $200.00.

I'm thinking of a bit that attaches under the original arm that has an end plate with the HPPC tip.

jimdigris · « **Reply #49 on:** 19 June 2015, 16:41:13 »

When should we start sending in money? Instructions will be needed again.

B-3 · « **Reply #50 on:** 19 June 2015, 17:03:24 »

If no one wants to step up for this one, you can send your Fundications directly to me. PM me and I'll provide my Paypal info if you don't already have it.

jimdigris · « **Reply #51 on:** 21 June 2015, 17:48:55 »

PM sent.

Spaceman · « **Reply #52 on:** 21 June 2015, 21:15:42 »

I will send my payment on July 1st. Might be a few days earlier, just waiting for some things to finish processing.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #53 on:** 21 June 2015, 21:27:30 »

B-3 - Apologies, I would volunteer to lead for you again so that you can concentrate on the sculpting, but I have a few things all happening at the same time at work and at home. I am worried that I am at risk of dropping the ball somewhere. :-[

Hopefully, I will be in a position to lead the next fun funding effort for you, if everybody is willing to put up with me again.

B-3 · « **Reply #54 on:** 21 June 2015, 21:45:44 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 21 June 2015, 21:27:30

B-3 - Apologies, I would volunteer to lead for you again so that you can concentrate on the sculpting, but I have a few things all happening at the same time at work and at home. I am worried that I am at risk of dropping the ball somewhere. :-[

Hopefully, I will be in a position to lead the next fun funding effort for you, if everybody is willing to put up with me again.

No worries Feenix, I can handle this one. Any help is appreciated!

klarg1 · « **Reply #55 on:** 22 June 2015, 10:23:44 »

Quote from: B-3 on 19 June 2015, 08:59:58

If we all agree that this list will cover the Variant bits then I will do them all for another $200.00.

I'm thinking of a bit that attaches under the original arm that has an end plate with the HPPC tip.

The pulse laser variant parts seem like very subtle changes from the regular laser parts. I don't mind funding the sculpting for them, but I would like to know how much they would add to the final mold cost before we include them. Speck, B-3, any idea?

The bigger variant parts seem pretty cool. (Sending a PM momentarily.)

B-3 · « **Reply #56 on:** 22 June 2015, 10:45:26 »

The Pulse laser details are so subtle, little X's over the laser ports. I can do additional plates that plug into the ones that are in the arms. If that's all, add another $50.

Baron RedSkull · « **Reply #57 on:** 22 June 2015, 11:28:31 »

So what is the final target funding total? Its looks like we're still only funded up to 800. Just my personal opinion, but I don't think the sculpt needs to distinguish between pulse and regular laser lenses specially if the difference is a subtle x over the port. I feel like that would just increase the parts count, amount of material used, as well as the final price point for each mini.

Quote from: Heavyguard on 17 June 2015, 14:49:18

Maybe just a chest insert similar to the Pariah's shoulder weapons. Would only need 3 really, 1 for 7K/9B, 1 for 8K/9C/C and 1 for the 9M. Then with an AMS bit and 1 set of arms with different tips (tips + under bits for the 9M HPPCs - similar to Dolaire LPLs)

Heavyguard

I like this idea since it makes efficient use of variant bits and give you more variants for your money. Also, more bits to sculpt means more time B-3 has to spend sculpting which means longer I have to wait for me to get this product in my hands. ;)

We have time to discuss it since B-3 is still working on the Griffin.

mdauben · « **Reply #58 on:** 22 June 2015, 13:49:07 »

if B-3 is doing the resculpt, I'll throw $50 at this! O0

klarg1 · « **Reply #59 on:** 22 June 2015, 16:33:17 »

Quote from: B-3 on 22 June 2015, 10:45:26

The Pulse laser details are so subtle, little X's over the laser ports. I can do additional plates that plug into the ones that are in the arms. If that's all, add another $50.

Sorry, I may not have been clear:

My question is not what would it cost to sculpt.

My question is: How would the extra parts affect the cost of the final mini.
(Extra molds, extra metal, etc.)

More parts and complexity (to say nothing of extra metal) add manufacturing cost. I'm wondering how much.