Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard

[worktroll]

New thread! Falcon hard with mindfulness (and a lack of plaid!)

[Grahad]

So, as a long gone BT player (pre Jihad) I just came back to check my beloved clan and...... what a mess.
If I understand correctly, after breezing through the Dark Age era, right now (I don't have the ilClan book yet) our OZ is basically free estate, we're down to one galaxy and we've become Alaric's footmen ( which is in a way expected after how we've been built up as the foil for Clan Wolf with Melvina and the Mongols, yuk).
So, is there any light of hope I am not privy to? Should I paint my mechs black? :))
On a side note, if you had to start picking up TRO and recogs,which ones would you start from?

[Orwell84]

If I understand correctly, after breezing through the Dark Age era, right now (I don't have the ilClan book yet) our OZ is basically free estate, we're down to one galaxy and we've become Alaric's footmen ( which is in a way expected after how we've been built up as the foil for Clan Wolf with Melvina and the Mongols, yuk).
So, is there any light of hope I am not privy to? Should I paint my mechs black? :))

Hmm... well, if you change Alaric's "footmen" to "praetorian guard", there may be a light of hope that history will repeat itself there :smirk:

Or another slice of history may rhyme: Clan Jade Wolf 2.0 will be the ashes from which the Jade Falcon shall rise again!

[Cannonshop]

Hmm... well, if you change Alaric's "footmen" to "praetorian guard", there may be a light of hope that history will repeat itself there :smirk:

Or another slice of history may rhyme: Clan Jade Wolf 2.0 will be the ashes from which the Jade Falcon shall rise again!

That's a very...shiny interpretation, but he's got it right-Clan Jade Falcon have been relegated to a ceremonial guard wholly owned by Alaric Ward.  They have lost all their infrastructure and most of their personnel and leadership, and had the top spot replaced by a mercenary owned by Alaric Ward.  they don't have a Vlad, or a Marthe, they've got a hireling, and they're logistically dependent upon their sponsors to keep eating.

[Jaim Magnus]

So, as a long gone BT player (pre Jihad) I just came back to check my beloved clan and...... what a mess.
If I understand correctly, after breezing through the Dark Age era, right now (I don't have the ilClan book yet) our OZ is basically free estate, we're down to one galaxy and we've become Alaric's footmen ( which is in a way expected after how we've been built up as the foil for Clan Wolf with Melvina and the Mongols, yuk).
So, is there any light of hope I am not privy to? Should I paint my mechs black? :))
On a side note, if you had to start picking up TRO and recogs,which ones would you start from?

Well, there's the [redacted] which you can read about in [redacted], coming soon!

Were I a falcon, I'd paint my 'Mechs green with a single black band.

[Weirdo]

That's a very...shiny interpretation, but he's got it right-Clan Jade Falcon have been relegated to a ceremonial guard wholly owned by Alaric Ward.  They have lost all their infrastructure and most of their personnel and leadership, and had the top spot replaced by a mercenary owned by Alaric Ward.  they don't have a Vlad, or a Marthe, they've got a hireling, and they're logistically dependent upon their sponsors to keep eating.

And ALL of it was worth it to be rid of Malvina and what she had turned the Clan into.

[rebs]

The Falcons have a bright future!  At least as good a future as the Smoke Jaguars.

[Grahad]

The Falcons have a bright future!  At least as good a future as the Smoke Jaguars.

Well, as I said, I am picking up the lore as I go right now, but the whole Mongol affair felt a betrayal of the spirit of the CJF for an old timer like me.... that being said, I'd rather not go the Comstar way tbh....

[rebs]

I certainly hope that the Falcons have their own planets to draw on.  As the Sea Foxes have proven, you only need a handful of planets to be a player. 

I'm an old timer too, though.  I read Way of the Clans, Bloodname, and Falcon Guard first.  That was my intro to BT fiction and it colored my whole experience.  I evolved from a Jade Falcon to a Shark Fox as I got older, but I still remember the Falcons.  And that will never change.

[Scotty]

That's a very...shiny interpretation, but he's got it right-Clan Jade Falcon have been relegated to a ceremonial guard wholly owned by Alaric Ward.  They have lost all their infrastructure and most of their personnel and leadership, and had the top spot replaced by a mercenary owned by Alaric Ward.  they don't have a Vlad, or a Marthe, they've got a hireling, and they're logistically dependent upon their sponsors to keep eating.

This post is full of assumptions or outright incorrect statements.  Status of infrastructure is up in the air until its in print somewhere.  The Khan is Stephanie Chistu, not Tara Jade Falcon.  They are no more "wholly owned" by Alaric than the Smoke Jaguars.  The Falcon navy is still multiple large cruisers strong and that kind of concentration of warships can go wherever and take from whomever they want to.

Realistically the result is going to be somewhere in the middle, but let's at least keep things accurate.

[nckestrel]

they don't have a Vlad, or a Marthe,

Vlad was a Wolf, so I'm not sure why the Falcons would want one.
They do have lots of Pryde(s), including Archer Pryde, protoganist of Honor's Gauntlet.
And Chistu(s), including Stephanie Chistu, their new Khan.

[rebs]

May they have many more honored bloodnamed in future work, and may their ristars shine.

[Jellico]

Vlad was a Wolf, so I'm not sure why the Falcons would want one.
They do have lots of Pryde(s), including Archer Pryde, protoganist of Honor's Gauntlet.
And Chistu(s), including Stephanie Chistu, their new Khan.

I assume in the sense of someone able to drag them through the lean times.

[nckestrel]

I assume in the sense of someone able to drag them through the lean times.

Isn’t that exactly what Stephanie Christu and Aidan Pryde have been set up as?
Sensible, strong leaders that the Clan needs to build back stronger?

[Jaim Magnus]

Isn’t that exactly what Stephanie Christu and Aidan Pryde have been set up as?
Sensible, strong leaders that the Clan needs to build back stronger?

Archer Pryde?

[rebs]

I hope Archer survived.  He needs another novel.

[Ruger]

I hope Archer survived.  He needs another novel.

I have to admit, he and his team are some of the few Falcons I actually started liking.

Ruger

[Jaim Magnus]

I hope Archer survived.  He needs another novel.

And one that doesn't effectively retread Noritomo Helmer.

[Nerroth]

According to the data in IlClan, Khalus Pryde is the new saKhan; Marv Roshak is the new Loremaster; and Archer Pryde is alive and well... or, a least, well enough to have been present to nominate Khalus for the post of saKhan.

Speaking of Noritomo Helmer, he's the new Loremaster of the Star League, who presided over the ilClan accession ceremony.

[rebs]

I think the shattered remains of the Falcons are in good hands. 

[MarauderCH IIC]

According to the data in IlClan, Khalus Pryde is the new saKhan; Marv Roshak is the new Loremaster; and Archer Pryde is alive and well... or, a least, well enough to have been present to nominate Khalus for the post of saKhan.

All three of those characters were kickstarter backers!

[Sartris]

the sole purpose of this post is to nominate worktroll for thread title of the year

[worktroll]

It's  the 'may', isn't it? I mean, it's still just possible we may not have ...

[LosTech Toaster]

I personally don't mind being the "bodyguard clan." It better than nothing and fits the Jade Falcon's history. Our first Khan, Elizabeth Hazen was a member of the Royal Black Watch Regiment, and that's just for starters.

That's a very...shiny interpretation, but he's got it right-Clan Jade Falcon have been relegated to a ceremonial guard wholly owned by Alaric Ward.  They have lost all their infrastructure and most of their personnel and leadership, and had the top spot replaced by a mercenary owned by Alaric Ward.  they don't have a Vlad, or a Marthe, they've got a hireling, and they're logistically dependent upon their sponsors to keep eating.

Inaccuracies aside, what I get from this is that there are lots of Bloodnames up for grabs. :)

The Falcon navy is still multiple large cruisers strong and that kind of concentration of warships can go wherever and take from whomever they want to.

Who's up for beating on the Draconis Combine?  >:D

I think the shattered remains of the Falcons are in good hands.

Us new recruits will restore the Clan's prestige!

[nova_dew]

This post is full of assumptions or outright incorrect statements.  Status of infrastructure is up in the air until its in print somewhere.  The Khan is Stephanie Chistu, not Tara Jade Falcon.  They are no more "wholly owned" by Alaric than the Smoke Jaguars.  The Falcon navy is still multiple large cruisers strong and that kind of concentration of warships can go wherever and take from whomever they want to.

Realistically the result is going to be somewhere in the middle, but let's at least keep things accurate.

The issue is warships are plot devices and only give as much power to a faction as TPTB give them, the falcons could have double the amount of them as the SL did in its entire history and it would mean nothing if TPTB want them to mean nothing, this isn't a you're wrong post just a don't base your expectations on warships post, they could be the Falcons saving grace, they could be hit by sabotage from former LA patriots turned falcon tech cast, they could all miss jump into Alaric's shower cubical  it's in the minds and hands pens of others until it's in print.

[Jaim Magnus]

It's true. If warships truly meant anything, the Snow Ravens would be one of the more powerful factions, but they're not.

[Cannonshop]

Warships are effectively meaningless except as a means to ram things and to pretend a situation is more dangerous than it is so that you CAN run them into stuff.  When they aren't being run into things, they are just bigger transports for your dropships, it's like saying someone's army is really powerful because they have a lot of eighteen wheel trucks.

Here's a joke: HOw do you get rid of 20% of Clan Snow Raven's warrior caste?

Naval battle.  They'll ram and ram and ram and before you know it?  one fifth of their total forces are gone and they've still lost the battle-because it was on the ground.

[Jaim Magnus]

Here's a joke: HOw do you get rid of 20% of Clan Snow Raven's warrior caste?

Naval battle.  They'll ram and ram and ram and before you know it?  one fifth of their total forces are gone and they've still lost the battle-because it was on the ground.

It's sad-funny because it's true.

[CJC070]

That is why it will be interesting to see where the Jade Falcons go next.  Will they hold on to their ideals or will they take another direction that would make the 3050 leaders spin in their grave.

[LosTech Toaster]

I haven't read either book yet and only know what I've been told/read.

That being said do the Jade Falcons still have an occupation zone? If they do then there should be a lab somewhere for growing babies. It will take some time but they could have all the personel they need. Equipment would be harder to replace. Maybe they can salvage the stuff they lost during the battle; unless Clan Wolf does a Trial of Possession.

Clan Jade Falcon, per both IlClan and the book that came before, is essentially a rump force inside the walls of terra, and a few scattered individuals with nothing of effective military value on what is about to become Hell's Horses new real-estate (with a few token worlds for the Lyrans, provided they can get somehow organized and win with 100 to one numerical superiority-something that, being lyrans, is not a guarantee.)

Steiner Scout Lances should be able to help with that.  ;)