Author Topic: Round 1 2015 Funding - Primitive Rifleman RFL-1N XTRO Primitives IV FUNDED! (Read 66078 times)

Feenix74 · « **Reply #210 on:** 22 April 2015, 06:51:43 »

Looks great O0

B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?

GRUD · « **Reply #211 on:** 22 April 2015, 07:37:32 »

Quote from: JPArbiter on 21 April 2015, 23:26:25

It is primitive and thus bulky!

I don't have any problems with it, I'm just saying how some people are about petty, inconsequential things like that. :D

I'm looking forward to buying a Lance of these! :Jumpy: EXCELLENT work B-3! O0 [applause] [applause]

B-3 · « **Reply #212 on:** 22 April 2015, 09:03:41 »

I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.

klarg1 · « **Reply #213 on:** 22 April 2015, 09:04:31 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 22 April 2015, 06:51:43

Looks great O0

B-3 - a question to satisfy my curiousity, is this master cast from pewter? Or is it the same brass/putty/plastic one that you posted photos of earlier but with a coating of silver spraypaint?

Typically, the company will make a mold from the original sculpt, and use that top cast a more durable set of masters in pewter. Those masters are then used to make the production molds. (Which typically make more than one model per spin.)

God and Davion · « **Reply #214 on:** 22 April 2015, 13:25:49 »

Quote from: B-3 on 22 April 2015, 09:03:41

I'm glad you all like this one! It's a great design and was fun to sculpt! This is a pewter master casting made using molds made on the plastic master sculpt.

Awesome, you won the internet with that pic!

B-3 · « **Reply #215 on:** 22 April 2015, 15:59:53 »

I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D

Azakael · « **Reply #216 on:** 22 April 2015, 17:31:17 »

Quote from: B-3 on 22 April 2015, 15:59:53

I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D

Yes, you did. Now back to the workbench with you! >:D

Please and thank you.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #217 on:** 22 April 2015, 20:56:44 »

Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.

It has been an honour and a priviledge to be able to be involved in the fundication for this. My thanks go to speck, B-3, Beachhead and my fellow fundicators for this opportunity.

GunjiNoKanrei · « **Reply #218 on:** 23 April 2015, 03:18:37 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 22 April 2015, 20:56:44

I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.

That's how it is usually done. Behrle is the exception to the rule ;)

abou · « **Reply #219 on:** 23 April 2015, 07:13:07 »

Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.

GRUD · « **Reply #220 on:** 23 April 2015, 10:37:15 »

Quote from: abou on 23 April 2015, 07:13:07

Nicely done! Can't wait to get one.

What!?! Only one?

[JediMindTrick]You will buy TWO![/JediMindTrick]

abou: "You know, it looks so good, I should buy at least 2 of them!"

Good decision! O0

:D

klarg1 · « **Reply #221 on:** 23 April 2015, 12:56:43 »

Quote from: B-3 on 22 April 2015, 15:59:53

I make my owm RTV molds in house and deliver Pewter Masters to IWM. I won the Internet?! :D

Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor! [cheers]

The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!

B-3 · « **Reply #222 on:** 23 April 2015, 13:21:17 »

Quote from: klarg1 on 23 April 2015, 12:56:43

Dang, you, sir, are truly a full service sculptor! [cheers]

The only other pros I have spoken to usually deliver greens to the manufacturer, and the masters are produced there. I'm impressed!

Well thanks! I am also a goldsmith and jeweler and do lots of custom jewelry design. I can cast gold, silver and bronze so pewter is pretty easy.

Cache · « **Reply #223 on:** 23 April 2015, 17:07:41 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 22 April 2015, 20:56:44

Thanks B-3 for giving us an insight into your creative processes O0 Thanks klarg1 for your reply too. I had always assumed that IWM/RP created the pewter masters from which the production molds were produced.

B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene. The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.

klarg1 · « **Reply #224 on:** 24 April 2015, 07:30:03 »

Quote from: Cache on 23 April 2015, 17:07:41

B-3 making his own masters allows him to use weaker materials to sculpt than the usual epoxy putties, like styrene. The master-creation process at IWM includes heat and pressure that would destroy something made of styrene.

I had actually been wondering about that. The APC masters looked like they had styrene parts, but I didn't think that was possible, based on conversations with fantasy sculptors. I have seen how a green can be mangled during the high-pressure step of vulcanization.

This explains it!

malk2651 · « **Reply #225 on:** 29 May 2015, 12:23:45 »

Question for anyone with half an educated guess, is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works. Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.

klarg1 · « **Reply #226 on:** 01 June 2015, 08:18:40 »

Quote from: malk2651 on 29 May 2015, 12:23:45

Question for anyone with half an educated guess, is this sculpt more likely to be a 2016 release? I'm not sure how the process for getting these to market works. Don't mind waiting for one, just curios as to when I should start looking for it.

Once B-3 sends his own masters to IWM, it's just a question of when they have an open slot in the mold-making queue. It seems to take at least 3 months, and sometimes 6 or more, but I don't think there is a strict rule for it.

speck · « **Reply #227 on:** 04 June 2015, 21:49:42 »

So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #228 on:** 04 June 2015, 22:05:18 »

That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0

B-3 · « **Reply #229 on:** 04 June 2015, 22:46:42 »

Sweet! O0

GRUD · « **Reply #230 on:** 04 June 2015, 22:56:39 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 04 June 2015, 22:05:18

That is awesome news, speck! Please pass on my thanks to Mike, the molding and casting team for making my Xmas in July a good one O0

I Second that! Please pass along My Thanks as Well! O0 It looks like I'll be using some of my "Primitive Rifleman Pledge Funds" to actually buy some of them!

And of course by "Some" I mean a Lance of them. 8)

Thanks Especially to B-3/Mr. Hubbuch, of course! MORE Amazing work! [cheers] [applause] [applause]

TS_Hawk · « **Reply #231 on:** 05 June 2015, 01:12:48 »

oh great news that means then once they go up I can spend some of my vouchers :)

Feenix74 · « **Reply #232 on:** 05 June 2015, 01:53:23 »

Speck - could I ask a massive favour?

As one of the proud fundicators of this miniature, could you please provide us with some feedback on how well this miniature sells at Origins?

Does not need to be exact number (although that would be nice ;) ) but even if it is just a "It is a dog with fleas and nobody wanted to touch it" or "It sold ok" or "We sold most of them" or "We sold most of them on the first day and we had to get the team back at the factory to produce another batch and Fedex it in for us" or "Watch the Columbus news to see the block riots it caused"

klarg1 · « **Reply #233 on:** 05 June 2015, 08:51:57 »

Quote from: speck on 04 June 2015, 21:49:42

So was surprised by Mikes email today that the Rifleman has been molded and should be at Origins on Saturday. So after the show it will go up on the website.

Like I said, no strict rule for it. :D

malk2651 · « **Reply #234 on:** 06 June 2015, 21:39:53 »

Just opened the one I bought this morning. It took me a good 2 minutes to realize I was not in fact missing the legs, but that each leg came in 3 different parts. Oh boy am I going to have fun posing this guy. :D

Excellent mini.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #235 on:** 07 June 2015, 00:02:54 »

Ok, so we have made at least one sale :)

Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.

Mech42ace · « **Reply #236 on:** 07 June 2015, 00:09:39 »

Quote from: Feenix74 on 07 June 2015, 00:02:54

Ok, so we have made at least one sale :)

Any chance for some photos of the parts laid out please Malk? We have seen photos of the master but not the finished product as yet.

I'd love to see some pics, as I plan to pick one or two up as soon as they go up on the site. :)

Feenix74 · « **Reply #237 on:** 07 June 2015, 00:19:29 »

My next order will include one for myself as well as stock for my online store and hopefully at least one of my regular customers.

I would offer to hook you up with one but unfortunately, unless you are here downunder, the freight cost from Ohio to Australia then back to where you are in the States means it is probably more cost effective for you to buy local (I can recommend Aries Games and Miniatures run by Dragon41673 from this forum) or direct from the IWM webstore.

Feenix74 · « **Reply #238 on:** 07 June 2015, 06:48:54 »

Another question, how much is the Primative Rifleman retailing for?

malk2651 · « **Reply #239 on:** 07 June 2015, 10:46:09 »

Bought it at Origins for $12.50 US Dollars