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Title: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 14 December 2012, 19:38:57
Well, time to start getting ready for my first GenCon....8 months away. Having never seen an adult 'Mech costume anywhere I've decided to set a standard. Over the next several months I'll be logging away the creation of what I hope to be a 6-7 foot tall Masakari, modeled after David White's superb Mechwarrior concept art. Moving joints for fluid-ish motion and hopefully lighting (along with fans for cooling the "pilot" of course) will be included, and possibly an opening cockpit if I can figure it out. I present to you the first patterns for the upper and lower legs. 'Ere we go!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121214_190331_zps99d0d507.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121214_190313_zps8b79e384.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121214_190203_zps4225cef0.jpg
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Siden Pryde on 14 December 2012, 20:13:16
Sounds very interesting and I look forward to seeing it complete.  Keep us updated.  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 15 December 2012, 10:38:21
Awesome idea man O0.  My only question is: how will you construct the back-canted legs of the Masakari?  I'm interested to see how you approach it so keep us in the loop! [drool]
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 15 December 2012, 12:43:19
I can't take credit for the idea, I found this gem online and have just decided to scale the basic design up and add fancy bits to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 15 December 2012, 13:09:30
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 15 December 2012, 12:43:19
I can't take credit for the idea, I found this gem online and have just decided to scale the basic design up and add fancy bits to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8)
Good video.

Quote from: Ion Raptor on 14 December 2012, 19:38:57
Well, time to start getting ready for my first GenCon....8 months away. Having never seen an adult 'Mech costume anywhere I've decided to set a standard. Over the next several months I'll be logging away the creation of what I hope to be a 6-7 foot tall Masakari, modeled after David White's superb Mechwarrior concept art.

David White's Warhawk is nice, but I prefer older Masakari:
(http://i.imgur.com/d8LBq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ey5Xj.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 15 December 2012, 15:00:19
It will certainly have elements of the original in it. I'm thinking about making the LRM launcher shoulder mounted like in most of the TROs, and the feet will definitely be more TRO-like since I'll need room on the inside facings to attach my feet.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 15 December 2012, 21:24:28
This sounds like it is going to be epic, although you definitely have your work cut out for you.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 16 December 2012, 00:11:56
"Cut" is definitely going to be the operating word for this little project. I won't want to look at box cutters again after this once I'm done. Have a small update:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121215_163047_zpsb83987a8.jpg
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 20 December 2012, 10:37:37
Update! I taped everything I had done to the wall and found I was not satisfied with how small the upper legs looked.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121219_170756_zps4ccd6e87.jpg

So I cut out a new, slightly larger area and think it looks much better, yes?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121220_102923_zps4969e623.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121220_102859_zps1f6edee8.jpg

Here's a better look at what I'm thinking about doing for the joint assembly
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121219_230052_zpsb4e8cc56.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121219_230123_zps348c06c6.jpg
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 22 December 2012, 09:43:06
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 15 December 2012, 12:43:19
I can't take credit for the idea, I found this gem online and have just decided to scale the basic design up and add fancy bits to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4pXz_awa8)

I remember another video I saw where a kid made a Madcat costume.  I don't know if this is the same kid or not, but I wouldn't be surprised.  May I ask "Why the Masakari?"  "Was it the first one you chose, or did you go through different ideas before settling on this one?"  And "How many pounds of Duct Tape do you think it will use?" :D
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 22 December 2012, 10:01:57
Three reasons for the Masakari:

1. I really like the Mechwarrior design for it.
2. It's boxy and could easily hold a person's entire upper torso without discomfort.
3. The lower legs are the exact same as a Daishi, so I could make one of those as well with only half of the work involved.

As for the tape, probably 2-3 rolls of it, so not that bad. It's actually a multi-step process I used for my Soundwave costume a few years back. The basic shape is held together with masking tape before having the cracks sealed with hot glue. After that it's wrapped completely in industrial gum-tape. Once that dries it's hard as rock and difficult to accidentally damage.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 22 December 2012, 22:53:02
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 22 December 2012, 10:01:57
...
3. The lower legs are the exact same as a Daishi, so I could make one of those as well with only half of the work involved....

I am honestly surprised you did not start with the Dire Wolf.  It is a much more iconic design than the lighter Warhawk and seems like it would be easier to fit into with the larger body and higher cockpit placement.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 22 December 2012, 23:21:08
Thought about it, but didn't want to have to deal with the rounded cockpit right off the bat. I'm already racking my brain on how to do the semi-circles on the legs properly.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 22 December 2012, 23:54:44
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 22 December 2012, 23:21:08
Thought about it, but didn't want to have to deal with the rounded cockpit right off the bat. I'm already racking my brain on how to do the semi-circles on the legs properly.

Well, assuming you could not find something about the right shape to cannibalize, you should still be able to fabricate a wire frame easily enough and then build a shell of some sort over that.  Paper mâché or a similar fabric composite would be fairly easy to work with, and there are plenty of other good options like fiberglass you could use if you wanted something more durable (a combination with a wire frame, paper mâché primary form, and fiberglass outer shell would probably work well).  Cardboard stringers might also work, but they would be more limited than wire because they do not pass each other as well even with notches to fit them together.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 23 December 2012, 01:18:04
I wish I could find it..but I remember there was a young woman who, a couple years ago, did an articulated
Timber Wolf costume for a video gaming convention. Maybe someone here can roosterboy you, Ion Raptor.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 23 December 2012, 09:25:54
Quote from: StCptMara on 23 December 2012, 01:18:04
I wish I could find it..but I remember there was a young woman who, a couple years ago, did an articulated
Timber Wolf costume for a video gaming convention. Maybe someone here can roosterboy you, Ion Raptor.

I'm the larger type so I can ask this: was he a larger kid and he had a video of it being assembled at his house?  that's the one I remember.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 23 December 2012, 11:32:11
Quote from: RedMarauder on 23 December 2012, 09:25:54
I'm the larger type so I can ask this: was he a larger kid and he had a video of it being assembled at his house?  that's the one I remember.

No...it was a rather nice looking young woman. She had trouble with the leg mechanisms breaking down at the con, and had to switch them to stationary, so it ended up looking like it was floating...I know it was posted on these forums, but I do not
know if it was before or after the crash/migration....
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: DarkISI on 26 December 2012, 03:00:24
This one?

(http://i47.tinypic.com/34skos9.jpg)

Found it googling ;)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 26 December 2012, 03:07:52
Yes, DarkISI, that one!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 26 December 2012, 12:00:53
Now that's cool, though I'm wondering what the strings are for.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 27 December 2012, 00:10:28
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 26 December 2012, 12:00:53
Now that's cool, though I'm wondering what the strings are for.

It looks to me like they may have been intended to be used for moving the legs which would enplane why they were abandoned and the whole thing wound up floating.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: cold1 on 27 December 2012, 07:38:27
Ion Raptor, any particular paint scheme or faction badging going on this thing?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 27 December 2012, 12:36:28
Haven't thought of any yet. I figured I'd stay away from actual camo schemes since their job is to hide the outline of a figure. I might be a smart-aleck and make a "Pony Pulverizer" badge with a leg stepping on one the tiny horses. Other than that I'm open for suggestions, though I'm leaning more towards a neutral scheme. Too dark and it will hide details, too light and it will be difficult to get good coverage.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: cold1 on 27 December 2012, 15:05:32
A light grey wouldn't hide the highlights and you throw Wolf or Smoke Jaguar emblems on it.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 27 December 2012, 15:54:33
Perhaps Clan Wolf Beta or Kappa Galaxy would be best for that then. Get a bit of color mixed in with a mostly gray scheme. I know I won't be doing Jaguar colors though.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 27 December 2012, 16:15:53
Quote from: Diablo48 on 27 December 2012, 00:10:28
It looks to me like they may have been intended to be used for moving the legs which would enplane why they were abandoned and the whole thing wound up floating.

As I remember, that is exactly what happened. They were there for moving the legs, and there ended up some difficulties
midway through the con...
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 28 December 2012, 00:46:42
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 27 December 2012, 12:36:28
Haven't thought of any yet. I figured I'd stay away from actual camo schemes since their job is to hide the outline of a figure. I might be a smart-aleck and make a "Pony Pulverizer" badge with a leg stepping on one the tiny horses. Other than that I'm open for suggestions, though I'm leaning more towards a neutral scheme. Too dark and it will hide details, too light and it will be difficult to get good coverage.

I would start by picking a faction (in my case Clan Ghost Bear), and then picking a parade scheme that will be easy enough to do and colorful enough to be noticed (Beta or Delta Galaxy would work well).

Another option would be to go for broke with the Nova Cat's Xi Galaxy and their psychedelic paint schemes.

Quote from: StCptMara on 27 December 2012, 16:15:53
As I remember, that is exactly what happened. They were there for moving the legs, and there ended up some difficulties
midway through the con...

Heh, called it. ;D
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: billtfor3 on 28 December 2012, 10:25:34
Tag to stay updated  ;D
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 29 December 2012, 23:05:38
Little update. Took me forever to get this done, started and restarted 3 times different ways before settling on just using cardboard. Even after that I had to restart this cardboard one 3-4 times. Yay? Nay?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121229_225743_zps8f1991d6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20121229_225841_zps8e66df14.jpg

edit: wow I just realized how much tape I used on that.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 30 December 2012, 09:31:11
Quote from: DarkISI on 26 December 2012, 03:00:24
This one?

(http://i47.tinypic.com/34skos9.jpg)

Found it googling ;)

*points frantically*  I was at that AKON!  I saw that costume!  The very same one.  But me no havy camera that time around :'(

When I saw her walking around in the skywalks near the Mall of the Americas in Dallas, her legs were working just fine.  She was very nice if you could hear her :)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 03 January 2013, 22:26:00
Next update, I'm getting the joint done!

Foot is almost completely done, with the front toe joint at 100%
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213915_zps36750d84.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213915_zps36750d84.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213938_zpsec00aa67.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213938_zpsec00aa67.jpg)

and here's the knee assembly in place, good range of motion and can fold in on itself for storage and transportation.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212926_zps63ebe8a7.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212926_zps63ebe8a7.jpg)

Here's a little walk around video while I move the leg, hopefully this works
http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212810_zps6f09694b.mp4.html (http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212810_zps6f09694b.mp4.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 03 January 2013, 22:51:40
Very nice work so far.  The video came through fine over here, and it looks like it is going to be amazing when you get it all done.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 05 January 2013, 09:39:59
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 03 January 2013, 22:26:00
Next update, I'm getting the joint done!

Foot is almost completely done, with the front toe joint at 100%
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213915_zps36750d84.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213915_zps36750d84.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213938_zpsec00aa67.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_213938_zpsec00aa67.jpg)

and here's the knee assembly in place, good range of motion and can fold in on itself for storage and transportation.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212926_zps63ebe8a7.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212926_zps63ebe8a7.jpg)

Here's a little walk around video while I move the leg, hopefully this works
http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212810_zps6f09694b.mp4.html (http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130103_212810_zps6f09694b.mp4.html)

AWESOME!!!!!!!  you're doing a bang-up job man O0  From what I can tell from everything here, you're making a pretty big costume.  I salute your endeavours!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 06 January 2013, 01:29:12
Quote from: RedMarauder on 05 January 2013, 09:39:59
AWESOME!!!!!!!  you're doing a bang-up job man O0  From what I can tell from everything here, you're making a pretty big costume.  I salute your endeavours!

You know...I hope he will be able to fit in the elevators in that, as I doubt he will be able to fit on the escalators.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 06 January 2013, 01:46:20
I guarantee that in order to move from room to room it will have to be at least partially disassembled and then reassembled. I took a picture that I'll post up tomorrow properly showing the height. It made me wish I had made it just a bit smaller.....oh well no stopping now!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: RedMarauder on 06 January 2013, 11:45:40
Quote from: StCptMara on 06 January 2013, 01:29:12
You know...I hope he will be able to fit in the elevators in that, as I doubt he will be able to fit on the escalators.

Why do you think he has laser in those arms?  Get Rid of the Competition! >:D
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 06 January 2013, 15:16:10
Here's the ankle joint, not pretty but it will be hidden so who cares. I think I'll go get thin PVC to replace that paper towel roll though, I don't trust it enough to hold the weight.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130106_150149_zpsc2822b15.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130106_150149_zpsc2822b15.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130106_150203_zpsc7e72350.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130106_150203_zpsc7e72350.jpg)

And put together so far with a bit of help from the family, we had a tough time finding anything tall enough to prop it up. My grandmother there is about 5'7'' so the costume stands at about 5'4'' right now.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130105_200403_zpsc69cc8fe.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130105_200403_zpsc69cc8fe.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 06 January 2013, 15:19:16
Great job!

It seems this is going to be quite big.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 07 January 2013, 21:18:50
That looks good, but I am really wondering if it is going to be too big for you to fit into.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 08 January 2013, 15:33:12
Start of the upper torso. I'm in need of a good pilot figure between 8 and 10 inches tall, any suggestions? Been looking at GIJoe but they all seem to be either 5 or 12 inches tall.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151843_zps85cdd406.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151843_zps85cdd406.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151947_zps76436269.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151947_zps76436269.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151934_zps80bac09a.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151934_zps80bac09a.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151924_zpsa5b2cd7f.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151924_zpsa5b2cd7f.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 08 January 2013, 20:42:35
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 08 January 2013, 15:33:12
Start of the upper torso. I'm in need of a good pilot figure between 8 and 10 inches tall, any suggestions? Been looking at GIJoe but they all seem to be either 5 or 12 inches tall.

Grab the 12 inch model and call it an Elemental phenotype?

Quote
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151843_zps85cdd406.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151843_zps85cdd406.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151947_zps76436269.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151947_zps76436269.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151934_zps80bac09a.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151934_zps80bac09a.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151924_zpsa5b2cd7f.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130108_151924_zpsa5b2cd7f.jpg)

Looking good so far, although it is obviously in the early stages at the moment.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 08 January 2013, 20:54:27
Actually, anyone know how tall a Masakari is supposed to be? I estimated 17 meters but if it's smaller than that a 12 inch figure might work
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 08 January 2013, 21:31:08
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 08 January 2013, 20:54:27
Actually, anyone know how tall a Masakari is supposed to be? I estimated 17 meters but if it's smaller than that a 12 inch figure might work

It can be no higher then 12 meters. "mechs stand 2 levels tall, and a level is 6 meters, so the Warhawk stands 7 to 12 meters tall.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 09 January 2013, 01:10:16
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 08 January 2013, 20:54:27
Actually, anyone know how tall a Masakari is supposed to be? I estimated 17 meters but if it's smaller than that a 12 inch figure might work

What about this?
(http://i.imgur.com/bY7Ls.png)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 09 January 2013, 01:19:00
Either way the largest I'm going to get comfortably in the cockpit is 12 inches. So now I just need to find a sci fi pilot figure in that scale....easier said than done.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 09 January 2013, 02:09:22
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 09 January 2013, 01:19:00
Either way the largest I'm going to get comfortably in the cockpit is 12 inches. So now I just need to find a sci fi pilot figure in that scale....easier said than done.

Not necessarily.  BattleTech tends to be gritty enough that you could probably get away with a more generic military figure.  A fighter pilot would probably be the best although you might have to leave some accessories off to make it work as a MechWarrior, but a generic soldier in camouflage fatigues could also work.  That said, you will probably still want to add some extra accessories and/or patches to help sell the figure as a Clan MechWarrior.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: StCptMara on 09 January 2013, 02:28:16
Quote from: Diablo48 on 09 January 2013, 02:09:22
Not necessarily.  BattleTech tends to be gritty enough that you could probably get away with a more generic military figure.  A fighter pilot would probably be the best although you might have to leave some accessories off to make it work as a MechWarrior, but a generic soldier in camouflage fatigues could also work.  That said, you will probably still want to add some extra accessories and/or patches to help sell the figure as a Clan MechWarrior.

Draw a circuit-board pattern over their face and arms and voila! you have an EI implanted Warrior, as well. But, considering you just
need a cooling vest and combat shorts on a 'Mechwarrior, it should be easily doable...even with a barbie or Ken doll.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Sabelkatten on 09 January 2013, 05:37:48
Barbie with a cooling vest. What could go wrong? ;)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 January 2013, 02:08:48
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 09 January 2013, 01:19:00
Either way the largest I'm going to get comfortably in the cockpit is 12 inches. So now I just need to find a sci fi pilot figure in that scale....easier said than done.
1/6 scale GI Joes.  Easiest damn thing ever.
http://www.btemodels.com/rarf-pilots.html
...the hilarity of George Bush in a Masakari is far too much to pass up.  Also, don't forget to look around on ebay and other places; you can probably find an inexpensive, non-collector's one for cheap.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Nebfer on 10 January 2013, 15:40:20
Quote from: StCptMara on 08 January 2013, 21:31:08
It can be no higher then 12 meters. "mechs stand 2 levels tall, and a level is 6 meters, so the Warhawk stands 7 to 12 meters tall.

Well the old 3050 size chart on clan omnis indicate it's 12.1 meters.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 18 January 2013, 23:34:37
I've been holding off on new pictures while I worked on the cockpit interior and started my next school semester. I think I finally have enough to give you all another update.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130110_215039_zps2a17c839.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130110_215039_zps2a17c839.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130110_215059_zps65c249c3.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130110_215059_zps65c249c3.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130111_184933_zps2c2f3cf6.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130111_184933_zps2c2f3cf6.jpg)

Also my pilot figure arrived, his dress has inspired me to go Ghost Bear with this build instead of Clan Wolf. He'll looks perfect after getting rid of the ridiculous "thumbs up" icons" and replacing them with the Ghost Bear emblem and some EI tattoos. Also this guy kind of creeped me out with the amount of articulation and attention to detail (removable shoes? individual toes with toenails? REALLY?).

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_230117_zps8f146802.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_230117_zps8f146802.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225006_zpsa4b64db0.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225006_zpsa4b64db0.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225013_zps000832d3.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225013_zps000832d3.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225036_zps21b3fe2a.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130118_225036_zps21b3fe2a.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 20 January 2013, 00:29:39
 O0

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Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 20 January 2013, 02:08:24
Wow, that looks very nice.  I can see an enormous amount of attention to detail in the cockpit, and it should look absolutely amazing when you get it done.

Also, I like how your pilot has the build of a proper Ghost Bear warrior. O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 20 January 2013, 11:57:12
Any idea if you'll use backlighting or maybe a chaser light in the cockpit?

Another thought, have you thought of a iPod hook up with some Mech sounds like from the video games as ambient sound effects?

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Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 20 January 2013, 14:36:10
I know i'm going to put some LEDsin there. I won't go into any big detail since it's going to be a good 8 feet off the ground, even when I bend at the waist only the tallest people will be able to see down into the cockpit. I did manage to finish the new tats, now he can go insane like any good Clan pilot.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130120_143103_zpsa20ded72.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130120_143103_zpsa20ded72.jpg)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130120_143113_zps3391a5c7.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130120_143113_zps3391a5c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 20 January 2013, 14:41:28
Real Crusader!  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 20 January 2013, 16:12:06
Ok, that pilot is looking like a total badass now.  Great job. O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 21 January 2013, 06:31:22
Actually why not put an iphone or something in the cockpit?  It's not so anyone else can see it but for interior lights for the pilot.  Play the Mechwarrior fan-made movie and maybe some other stuff like it, this way you get constantly changing backlighting in the cockpit and flares of light at appropriate times, plus "radio chatter" going on.  Don't make it too loud of course, it's just ambient, but mount the iphone on the floor perhaps or where the cockpit controls would be - this way the pilot's lit up from the "displays" and the onlookers can't see where the light source is coming from.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 21 January 2013, 10:28:46
The problem there is that I've tried having sounds in costumes before and cardboard is a surprisingly good muffler. Not only will no one be able to hear it in the convention center, but I won't be able to hear anything coming from outside.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 21 January 2013, 10:58:30
Then just turn the volume down and use it for lighting displays; it doesn't have to be visible to anyone else - just lighting up your cockpit for the mechwarrior, all of his visual displays.

Now I wonder how hard it would be to take one and set a new wallpaper on it for what looks like a targeting console, and actually mount that IN a cockpit as a "large-size touchscreen multifunction display"
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 21 January 2013, 15:05:14
He could just mount old fashion Foam buds outside the suit set at medium speaker volume, higher if needed. Also, would you allow a oneway screen so at least you can see out but hard to see in?

And, this is cool, but could you give your pilot your CBT Callsign painted on the side of the cockpit, just so we can say we say you there?

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Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 21 January 2013, 15:44:55
Quote from: truetanker on 21 January 2013, 15:05:14
He could just mount old fashion Foam buds outside the suit set at medium speaker volume, higher if needed. Also, would you allow a oneway screen so at least you can see out but hard to see in?

And, this is cool, but could you give your pilot your CBT Callsign painted on the side of the cockpit, just so we can say we say you there?

TT

I've got a place online that sells pretty cheap two way mirrors cut to size. I plan on buying 5 or 6 of those and strategically placing them around at eye level. Good idea with the callsign, consider that on the to-do list.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 21 January 2013, 23:42:29
Quote from: truetanker on 21 January 2013, 15:05:14
And, this is cool, but could you give your pilot your CBT Callsign painted on the side of the cockpit, just so we can say we say you there?

TT

That is a very good idea.  Not only does it make it easier for us to identify him, but "Ion Raptor" is also a very good name for a 'Mech armed with four ERPPCs.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 January 2013, 03:54:15
...I'm torn between Ion Raptor and Ion Reaper now.  The latter does sound more evil...but the former is your actual forum name.

Do it!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 22 January 2013, 14:46:14
And maybe put a disclaimer saying Pilot does not look like the real CBTer named Ion Raptor. He's better looking and not so " Plastic like ".  O0 ;D

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Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 13 February 2013, 13:01:56
Any progress on this project?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 14 February 2013, 12:50:48
None for awhile, school caught up to me and at best it will be very slow going for the next couple months
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 18 March 2013, 16:48:21
To keep things alive I've got a couple pictures for your viewing pleasure. I'm moving into a new place this Friday so that might give me the kick in the pants to really start work on this again.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130317_211423_zps115f58c5.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130317_211423_zps115f58c5.jpg)

Here's what will eventually become the PPC barrels
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130317_211507_zps03b46e02.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130317_211507_zps03b46e02.jpg)

Oh and just for fun I made him a pair of a certain type of shades.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130318_172820_zpsba67a35f.jpg (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130318_172820_zpsba67a35f.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 March 2013, 11:31:57
Tuck a Mini-Maglite at the inside end of each barrel, with the blue lens cover on it, and hook up pressure switches to where your hands are.  Since they'll be at the far end of the tube, you'll get a nice thin cone of light coming out - and it'd look amazing in a slightly dimmed light.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 23 May 2013, 16:19:35
Update?

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Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: dayanx on 27 May 2013, 20:46:23
Neat stuff so far though I find it interesting that only the reverse joint designs are getting the attention. Has anyone ever done scale Battle Armor?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 20 September 2013, 22:12:06
You thought I gave up didn't you?

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183859_zps6310032b.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183859_zps6310032b.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183953_zps094532dd.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183953_zps094532dd.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183926_zps98c748a5.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/20130920_183926_zps98c748a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 21 September 2013, 00:37:57
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 20 September 2013, 22:12:06
You thought I gave up didn't you?

Looks great, so far.  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 21 September 2013, 01:25:24
That looks fantastic, although I must admit I am a little concerned about painting the hull with the cockpit in place.  Do you have a way to easily remove it for that?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 21 September 2013, 06:25:16
Yeah, that entire forward section isn't permanently in place yet and can be removed. Once it's painted I'll fix the command console and cockpit "glass" into place.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 21 September 2013, 06:58:47
Yeah, I figured that was the case, although I figured I should checked because a permanent fixture there could be...problematic.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Khan Jade Wolf on 05 April 2014, 15:30:21
You finished it I hope. That would have been the bohm!

Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 03 June 2014, 12:56:41
Now that I've finished up my Masters I've started work again. This is the third or fourth time I've done this and hopefully I'll be able to complete it this time. I spray painted the torso down but decided I hated the way the gum tape texture looked when painted. So I bought a metric ton of Craft foam and have been busy cutting it up and placing it along finished components. This should let me have some nice big raised panels and deep panel lines. It should  look more like a miniature in mega form when I'm done plus give it the added benefit of looking a lot smoother.

Since I'm not using the gumtape as a finished surface anymore I don't have to cover the entire thing, just the edges.
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0019_zpsecfd7292.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0019_zpsecfd7292.jpg.html)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0022_zpsa32fa81f.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0022_zpsa32fa81f.jpg.html)

I'm basing a lot of the panel details on Pacific Rim and super detailed Gundam models. These lines were lifted directly from the RX-78
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0020_zps8281c5db.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0020_zps8281c5db.jpg.html)

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0024_zpsac5a1f5f.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0024_zpsac5a1f5f.jpg.html)

The foam also lets me weather it, though I've never done so before. I tested a couple methods out on some scrap pieces and I'm leaning towards the top one (I've also messed around with the dremel to make weapons wounds)
 (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0023_zps808cda3b.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0023_zps808cda3b.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 03 June 2014, 13:58:36
Happy to hear that the project still continues.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 06 June 2014, 15:40:48
Now we're getting somewhere. Cockpit area has its foam completely cut out and is currently held on by scotch tape. I started doing some battle damage as well to break up the large panels. I'm thinking that I'll paint this mech in Ghost Bear Tau Galaxy colors

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00351_zpsd9ebd52a.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00351_zpsd9ebd52a.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00361_zps3eaa3c7c.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00361_zps3eaa3c7c.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00371_zps068fedea.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00371_zps068fedea.jpg.html)

I'm going to use these bent hanger clippings to make hand holds for the pilot to get in and out of the cockpit
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00381_zps735f4f10.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00381_zps735f4f10.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00391_zps9da06039.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00391_zps9da06039.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00411_zpscef5d929.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00411_zpscef5d929.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 07 June 2014, 00:53:22
That is beautiful.  Great work. O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Battleclad on 07 June 2014, 15:52:11
I'll just throw this in here for the sake of it, if you want ambient sound and to use a phone/small tablet for lighting in the cockpit then you can hide headset speakers in the launchers or weapon barrels. That said, looking forward to seeing this beast finished.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 07 June 2014, 17:34:59
Weathering!

Before:
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/10441922_10152408720975546_1147085667743282148_n_zpsf5799b61.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/10441922_10152408720975546_1147085667743282148_n_zpsf5799b61.jpg.html)

After:
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/10448252_10152408721020546_2348870689797835330_n_zps6604e51f.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/10448252_10152408721020546_2348870689797835330_n_zps6604e51f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 09 June 2014, 19:51:13
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00451_zps7b080053.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00451_zps7b080053.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00461_zps6ce9ee98.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00461_zps6ce9ee98.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00471_zpsb482486c.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00471_zpsb482486c.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00481_zpsd1e3364e.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG00481_zpsd1e3364e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Kat on 09 June 2014, 19:52:44
It's looking great! Love your attention to detail with the weathering and the grab-bars.  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 09 June 2014, 21:59:29
Now you need some nose art and that callsign added.

By nose art, I mean kill markers.  O:-)

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 10 June 2014, 07:07:02
The great thing about Tau galaxy is that they already have a canon precedent for kill markers. There will be claw marks along the arms for each kill. I'm getting really excited about this costume now that progress is moving quickly. I'm pretty sure that as soon as I'm done with this one I'll start on a Daishi torso so I can just reuse these legs
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 10 June 2014, 08:04:52
Those cockpit steps are a nice detail.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Foxx Ital on 14 June 2014, 18:30:05
Awesome work!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 14 July 2014, 13:04:51
After a period of stress having to do with job prospects I've finally started work again, finished the weapons bits as well as most of the legs.

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0093_zpsqgmjdgc6.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0093_zpsqgmjdgc6.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0090_zpsshkemsrq.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0090_zpsshkemsrq.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0091_zpstpe3std9.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0091_zpstpe3std9.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0092_zpshkarzmay.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0092_zpshkarzmay.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0094_zps6muslwmr.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0094_zps6muslwmr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mastergunz on 14 July 2014, 13:15:25
Wow, that is really coming along great!

-Gunz
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 14 July 2014, 13:38:16
It will be pretty big.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 14 July 2014, 16:36:08
If I have the measurements correct it will be 7 feet 8 inches tall, just shy of 5 feet across, and 4 feet 5 inches long.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 14 July 2014, 19:09:46
That is kind of enormous.  How do you plan on getting it through doors?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 14 July 2014, 23:49:35
The doors will move for me or be destroyed. In all honesty it will have to be partially disassembled and carried through doors. I don't even know how I'm going to transport it in the first place. Anything less than a large van won't be enough.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: martian on 14 July 2014, 23:53:07
What a resolve!  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 15 July 2014, 17:12:42
Made a new leg cover more in line with MWO's Warhawk. I wasn't looking forward to making another round one so I decided to redo the leg covers. Suggestions?

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0095_zpsfiaaua8e.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0095_zpsfiaaua8e.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0096_zpsmmwct7ru.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0096_zpsmmwct7ru.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: 17th Spartans on 17 July 2014, 05:03:14
 O0 Strong Work here. Cardboard is a Great thing indeed. Cant wait to see this finished.  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '14
Post by: Ion Raptor on 17 July 2014, 19:50:28
It stands!

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0098_zpstl3bivhh.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0098_zpstl3bivhh.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0100_zpssvyfihbm.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0100_zpssvyfihbm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 22 July 2014, 16:40:12
Making real progress now. Lots of stuff going on under the hood but here's a scale image and a couple of the first attached arm
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0115_zpsjzacbabb.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0115_zpsjzacbabb.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0117_zpstjgwibpi.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0117_zpstjgwibpi.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0119_zpsjv5arwdt.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0119_zpsjv5arwdt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 22 July 2014, 22:00:25
Your basement looks like a Niops factory. :)

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 22 July 2014, 22:28:18
Quote from: truetanker on 22 July 2014, 22:00:25
Your basement looks like a Niops factory. :)

TT

Niops should be so lucky. ;)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 July 2014, 20:10:27
God I so want 1/10 scale Elemental plushies to hang onto this thing.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 26 July 2014, 20:46:40
Oh yes. Very much yes.  Wonder what scale the old BT toys were in: they had an Elemental, didn't they?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Nekoryu on 26 July 2014, 21:33:39
Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 26 July 2014, 20:10:27
God I so want 1/10 scale Elemental plushies to hang onto this thing.


I could arrange that...I've been wanting an excuse to make plushie Elementals OMFG I'd sleep in a frikking PILE OF THEM. <3

In other news...I am SO. FREAKIN. JEALOUS. This costume is coming along wonderfully!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 27 July 2014, 18:57:13
I would gladly hang some Elementals off of this costume! Also I have a little teaser for you that I'll upload later tonight or tomorrow morning.

So get hyped!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 27 July 2014, 23:47:12
Well here it is, just a little taste of what's to come. Yeah I know Tau didn't participate in the invasion of Thule, but it didn't work with the Mechwarrior 4 opening any other way so I fudged it a bit. Looks like I'll be at Gencon all 4 days (5 days actually since I'll be there helping Northstar Games) So plenty of time to see this in person for anyone planning on attending. I'm starting to wonder if the Tesla pods guys would be interested in having this set up near them to draw crowds, not sure how much time I'll be able to spend inside the costume, most certainly not all 4 days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-y5X0Ik1w&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-y5X0Ik1w&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mastergunz on 28 July 2014, 14:53:50
haha! Nice!  ;D

How much will thing way once all is said and done?

-Gunz
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Minnow on 28 July 2014, 15:59:07
Knowing that I will be working the pods I think it would be awesome if you wanted to stop by and hang out.

Does it free stand, meaning will it sit together without you in it?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 28 July 2014, 16:42:57
I'll be building a stand for it so if everything goes to plan then yes.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: cold1 on 29 July 2014, 07:41:17
Holy crap this thing is cool!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 29 July 2014, 21:34:10
Quote from: Mastergunz on 28 July 2014, 14:53:50
haha! Nice!  ;D

How much will thing way once all is said and done?

-Gunz

I'm guessing it will total around 35 pounds, mostly in the legs since the torso is pretty well hollow.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 31 July 2014, 19:14:15
Now we're chugging along. I've spent the day trying to figure out how i'm going to get my torso movement how I want it. I'm an artist first and foremost so of course I decided to build the thing first and figure out how it was going to work later. Going to try and have a cylinder around my torso to keep it in place and give it an axis to spin on. The other problem is that because of the height, my upper torso is connected to the costume's lower torso. Which means that in order to torso twist i'll have to able to move my arms while keep my torso straight. It's gonna be fun.....

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0127_zps7dnnem5z.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0127_zps7dnnem5z.jpg.html)

Also, I have LEDs!

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0128_zps94q00t1e.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0128_zps94q00t1e.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0129_zpspfqaqweq.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0129_zpspfqaqweq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 31 July 2014, 21:00:19
Suspenders on the torso ring with the upper part free weighted on it. Like a pair of waders one would wear to fishing trips. You brace the upper part with the suspenders, using your arms as free movement. The lower would be attached to your upper thighs and such.

Hope this might help a little...

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mattlov on 31 July 2014, 21:28:02
Still pretty awesome.  Will it be done in time, though?

My criticism is simple though:  The PPC barrels.  You went MW$ version with the top one on the inside!  It looks so much better the other way!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 31 July 2014, 22:36:36
I'm working over time on the costume. I spent from 8am to 10:30 pm today downstairs working on it. It must be done, no two ways about it! Too many people looking forward to seeing it to fail now.


I've gotten to hate the whole MW4 set of arms, I absolutely should have done the Battletech version. The blasted angled arms make me rip my hair out  :)) I must have half a bottle of gorilla glue spread between the two arm joints alone. Thank the stars for that stuff, without it this costume would be nearly impossible.

My Overlord captain is currently trying to figure out the best way to strap it down into the truck (and hope it doesn't rain on the drive in) so we can get this monster to the ball on time

Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 31 July 2014, 23:22:56
You may want to invest in a good tarp or large plastic sheet as a precaution against rain.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 01 August 2014, 19:54:26
It's...huge...not just huge, but XBAWKS HUEG. I've completed my "omnimech support structure" and am now just looking for ways to further shore it up so that there is no chance of it breaking down.

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0130_zpsepexh5gu.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0130_zpsepexh5gu.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0131_zpstzvgj7xu.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0131_zpstzvgj7xu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 02 August 2014, 20:26:45
Run! It's a freakin' tripod!

Looking good there.

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 02 August 2014, 23:53:54
Dude, that's amazing.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Nekoryu on 03 August 2014, 18:28:01
Quote from: truetanker on 02 August 2014, 20:26:45
Run! It's a freakin' tripod!

Looking good there.

TT

Just sneeze on it, that'll teach em.  8)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 05 August 2014, 16:41:47
This will probably be the last update before it's done, mostly just grunt work now aside from attaching the harness. I wanted to show exactly how much foam I cut out for each part.
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0135_zps9o5fgbsk.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0135_zps9o5fgbsk.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0136_zpsgqrsi3ej.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0136_zpsgqrsi3ej.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0140_zpsvyxdlco9.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0140_zpsvyxdlco9.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0139_zpsua2uvq7a.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0139_zpsua2uvq7a.jpg.html)

I put a couple rare earth magnets on the lid so I can get into the internals(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0137_zpshne1fwek.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0137_zpshne1fwek.jpg.html)(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0138_zpssn5mps86.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0138_zpssn5mps86.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 11 August 2014, 06:44:07
I lied, just a little picture of the callsign that truetanker reminded me to add and a small progress update: it's so close to being done and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0151_zpsdxa8dblg.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0151_zpsdxa8dblg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Pa Weasley on 17 August 2014, 21:03:27
I saw the shots from the costume contest on the Indianapolis Star's website. The suit looks flat out amazing!

 [applause] [notworthy] [rockon]
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Wrangler on 17 August 2014, 21:47:53
PLease post them, I've love see how it came out at GenCon!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 17 August 2014, 22:44:06
ask and you shall receive! I was was extremely busy helping out North Star Games this year so only got to bring the costume out on Saturday for the contest and some photos after but what an amazing reaction I got from it. I have to apologize to truetanker for not being able to meet him while at the Con, it was a roller coaster ride from start to finish.

This is how we had to transport "The Beast"
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0162_zpsdlicynfv.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0162_zpsdlicynfv.jpg.html)
 (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0177_zpsgp1kpjxr.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0177_zpsgp1kpjxr.jpg.html)


(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/img_6318-btwh_zpsjiohfwlx.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/img_6318-btwh_zpsjiohfwlx.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/1408234042015-GenCon-21_zpsi2q0aq93.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/1408234042015-GenCon-21_zpsi2q0aq93.jpg.html)

After the contest I set it up in the hall where I met some of the awesome Catalyst guys
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0181_zpsbhzrm78x.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0181_zpsbhzrm78x.jpg.html)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0179_zpsox3xghzh.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0179_zpsox3xghzh.jpg.html)

Also: FIRST PLACE in the Superhero/Sci-Fi Category! Battletech is now a winner in the costume contests!
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/IonRaptor/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0178_zpsdw49mwbm.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/IonRaptor/media/Battletech/Masakari/IMAG0178_zpsdw49mwbm.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Wildonion on 17 August 2014, 22:48:30
A thing of beauty. Congratulations on your wonderful work!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Wrangler on 18 August 2014, 06:37:35
Dats awesome!!  Congradulations!!!!  All your work payed off for sure!   Next year you should build a Warhammer of a Awesome to have someone square off against one another at the con!!

Way to go, Ion Raptor!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Sharpnel on 18 August 2014, 06:42:02
Congrats on that awesome build. First Place at GenCon is something you can cherish forever
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: DarkSpade on 18 August 2014, 12:20:12
Saw it in person, but at a distance during the contest. I was still very impressed.   It's a shame they couldn't have had a way for you to get on the stage.  I would have loved to see it walking.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Kat on 18 August 2014, 12:41:23
Wow, that is awesome, IonRaptor. Congrats on taking first! It's well-deserved!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: cold1 on 18 August 2014, 12:50:15
Holy crap that thing is awesome!!!!

You deserve the win!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Spinosapper on 18 August 2014, 13:39:17
Amazing piece of work!   O0  Congrats on your win!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mastergunz on 18 August 2014, 17:42:22
Thats fantastic man! Congrats! Wish I could have been there to see it. What was the total weight on that thing? Must have been wuite the strain on your upper body.

-Gunz
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 18 August 2014, 18:25:45
All together it weighs somewhere between 35 and 40 pounds, with probably 25 of that resting on my shoulders. If I've learned anything its that this costume works much better as a prop than as an actual wearable costume. Several people didn't believe that it could be worn until I showed them the pictures of me in it. If another costume were to ever be done it would be a much less bulky light mech. Of course should Catalyst ever find themselves in need of someone to make them a massive prop I'd be happy to do so with better materials  :))
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mastergunz on 18 August 2014, 18:30:32
 :o- Wow, only 30-40 lbs for the whole thing. I figured it would have been a good deal heavier. Heck, I could run in that thing, lol. BTW, any video of you walking in it?

-Gunz
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 18 August 2014, 18:56:08
No video so far. The costume was too big to go up on stage so they had to place me down on the floor level, preventing most from getting a good look at the lower torso. For as big as it is it's definitely light, it's just the awkwardness that was inherent in its creation that prevents it from being mobile for very long. Given a couple weeks I could probably solve that problem but I think "The Beast" will remain on its support structure from now on. 
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Atlas3060 on 18 August 2014, 19:08:17
Congrats trothkin!
You do Bear proud by this victory.
Surely it will earn a line in The Remembrance.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Diablo48 on 18 August 2014, 22:38:10
Wow, that is absolutely amazing on so many levels and I especially like that you went the extra mile to decorate the stand which is not even used in its primary roll as a costume.  Congratulations, you absolutely deserved the win for that masterpiece and should feel very proud of yourself for what you have achieved.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: TS_Hawk on 19 August 2014, 14:47:48
Very nice.  But maybe the Hatamoto Chi would have been better :P
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Kat on 19 August 2014, 16:52:17
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 18 August 2014, 18:25:45
All together it weighs somewhere between 35 and 40 pounds, with probably 25 of that resting on my shoulders. If I've learned anything its that this costume works much better as a prop than as an actual wearable costume. Several people didn't believe that it could be worn until I showed them the pictures of me in it. If another costume were to ever be done it would be a much less bulky light mech. Of course should Catalyst ever find themselves in need of someone to make them a massive prop I'd be happy to do so with better materials  :))

Just don't pick something like a Firemoth. You'd hafta hold your arms over your head all day.  :D
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 19 August 2014, 18:31:13
Yeah, Minnow and me were wondering where you went to. We had thought you couldn't either bring it into the Hall or unable to come yourself. Had I known, I'd have come running to the Contest and shot some pics. I'm pretty sure Minnow would love to have that costume as a prop for the Firebase pods next year.

All in all very nice! Hope to really see it in action.

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mattlov on 19 August 2014, 21:26:00
I'd want to dress as a Battlemaster, that way I am fully enclosed in my 'Mech.  And that is the way my knees bend...
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: BirdofPrey on 20 August 2014, 14:12:53
Wow that's awesome sauce.  Congratulations on the first place prize.

I still think you should have done a summoner or Atlas, so you could fit all the way inside the costume, but it's awesome nevertheless.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 21 August 2014, 21:46:25
I think the next one I do will be Battle Armor. It'll let me encase my whole body and I should be able to pull it apart enough to shove in the back on an SUV. I have to have something to fight off all these Space Marines you're seeing now.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Mattlov on 21 August 2014, 22:24:58
Quote from: Ion Raptor on 21 August 2014, 21:46:25
I think the next one I do will be Battle Armor. It'll let me encase my whole body and I should be able to pull it apart enough to shove in the back on an SUV. I have to have something to fight off all these Space Marines you're seeing now.

Yeah, my other thought was a full size Elemental.   }:)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 21 August 2014, 23:22:50
Eh I've had enough of the Clans, Inner Sphere love this time around. It's Longinus time!

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/145/b/9/longinus_battle_armor_by_s2ka-d512f8l.jpg)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 22 August 2014, 19:11:17
Make sure you include a Battletech decal somewhere were people can see it, otherwise they mas assume it is a Metroid's Samas.

Good luck on it, are you going to have a working mech-scale weapon that makes sound and light?

TT
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 02 September 2014, 13:07:15
A reporter for the local paper took notice of the costume and did a little interview of me. Little did I know that it would be a large column, and front page to boot. He did a good job too, the only thing off is the part about Battletech being one of the oldest wargames in the States. One of the longest lasting certainly, but definitely not one of the oldest.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Wildonion on 02 September 2014, 17:03:23
That is so awesome! Congratulations, it is good to see your hard work pay off.  O0
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Nekoryu on 02 September 2014, 22:33:05
Quote from: Atlas3060 on 18 August 2014, 19:08:17
Congrats trothkin!
You do Bear proud by this victory.
Surely it will earn a line in The Remembrance.

What he said.

This is amazing! Wonderful job!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: DarkISI on 03 September 2014, 06:29:27
Congratulations. That's amazing. :)
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Pht on 15 September 2014, 14:55:04
Very well done Ion  O0

Long time, no pester.  #P
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 08 November 2016, 21:42:39
Two years late, but I have a quick movie with the suit moving. A whole four steps!

https://youtu.be/zdeTNgQp-7o (https://youtu.be/zdeTNgQp-7o)

Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: marauder648 on 08 November 2016, 23:17:08
Very very awesome!  Turning in it must have been 'fun' as you'd have to shuffle round right?
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Ion Raptor on 09 November 2016, 11:23:31
If I could have I would have just done the Mechwarrior 4 thing and stomped my feet up and down turning bit at a time. Unfortunately the feet are just too heavy to do much more the shuffle around. As of this video the costume is retired completely to sit the rest of its days on the display stand.

Perhaps one day I'll use what I learned to make a smaller, lighter mech costume.
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Wrangler on 09 November 2016, 21:57:13
I kept thinking you were going be able to make a Inner Sphere costume, say a BattleMaster.  Be able to go to GenCon stage a mock fight between each other.  ^-^

Thank you for putting up the video for us!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: Demon55 on 10 November 2016, 00:17:08
Great work Ion Raptor and congratulations on the award!
Title: Re: Masakari Costume for GenCon '13
Post by: truetanker on 10 November 2016, 07:37:50
I know this sounds morbid, but you should put it in your Next-of-Kin will, with a please don't destroy museum quality piece.

Or if you can find one, a place for permanent public display. Along with the newspaper clippings, your award and whatnots. " See kids, while this is make-believe to you, I played this game when your parents where your age! "

TT
( Missed your show, walked by the hall where they held it too.  :-[ )

(( Still owe you that beer too. ))