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Title: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Atlas3060 on 06 July 2016, 09:06:38
Starting the new thread, because the previous hit 50 pages.
Campaign Ops out.

Drive Thru RPG (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/186964/BattleTech-Campaign-Operations)

Battlecorps options (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=campaign+operations&osCsid=7hk8rim7kf70ficgelhag24rs4&x=0&y=0)

A planet with Thunderbirds is scary on McEvedy's Folly.
Drive Thru RPG (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/186963/BattleTech-Touring-the-Stars-McEvedys-Folly)

Battlecorps (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/186963/BattleTech-Touring-the-Stars-McEvedys-Folly)
We're awaiting the "next big thing" whenever that will be.

On to our discussions.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: NeonKnight on 06 July 2016, 10:01:30
First
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Daryk on 06 July 2016, 10:03:16
So... is this where what used to go in the "New BattleTech For Sale" thread will go now?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 06 July 2016, 10:19:03
I think something wrong with the system that used to "push" updates to the New Battletech for Sales" thread.  It still does once in awhile, but not always.

This what this thread all about and happy jabber about it!  ;D

I'm still holding out that TRO: Golden Century will get done, its was nice were told that TRO: Irregular Tech is going worked on again.



Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: IronSphinx on 06 July 2016, 10:44:39
As we're less than thirty days out, is there a comprehensive list of what product will be available at the CGL Gen Con booth (for those of us who like to budget our purchases)?  :)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: wantec on 06 July 2016, 11:08:12
I think something wrong with the system that used to "push" updates to the New Battletech for Sales" thread.  It still does once in awhile, but not always.

This what this thread all about and happy jabber about it!  ;D

I'm still holding out that TRO: Golden Century will get done, its was nice were told that TRO: Irregular Tech is going worked on again.
The "system" you mention is Ray (or a designated blue-beamered flunky) having the time and the links and going to that thread and posting the info and links there.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dulahan on 06 July 2016, 11:22:26
As we're less than thirty days out, is there a comprehensive list of what product will be available at the CGL Gen Con booth (for those of us who like to budget our purchases)?  :)

So far, seems to be the Merc Company Dice.  Presumably the other dice too, though that's also already out.

And probably Campaign Ops.

Fingers still crossed for some surprises (please new plastics please new plastics), I'd love to know in advance though!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: IronSphinx on 06 July 2016, 11:30:22
So far, seems to be the Merc Company Dice.  Presumably the other dice too, though that's also already out.

And probably Campaign Ops.

Fingers still crossed for some surprises (please new plastics please new plastics), I'd love to know in advance though!

1st Succession War just became available to stores so I'm assuming they'll have copies there. I'm wondering what con exclusives and other little goodies they'll have on hand to wreck my budget?  ;D
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dulahan on 06 July 2016, 11:46:06
1st Succession War just became available to stores so I'm assuming they'll have copies there. I'm wondering what con exclusives and other little goodies they'll have on hand to wreck my budget?  ;D

The Merc Company dice seem to be all I've heard so far (And the reason the Catalyst booth is my beeline during the running of the Lemmings!)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: solmanian on 06 July 2016, 12:10:58
So what's new?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: wwwjason on 06 July 2016, 12:18:34
So far, seems to be the Merc Company Dice.

Merc Company Dice? I'm falling behind on the news... Where was this announced?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Sagittaire on 06 July 2016, 13:18:08
Merc Company Dice? I'm falling behind on the news... Where was this announced?

they were available at Origins but they had a limited quantity.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd388/nickname00100/Trade%20Items/20160616_110957%201_zps2rfiybps.jpg) (http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/nickname00100/media/Trade%20Items/20160616_110957%201_zps2rfiybps.jpg.html)

Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 06 July 2016, 13:39:09
The "system" you mention is Ray (or a designated blue-beamered flunky) having the time and the links and going to that thread and posting the info and links there.
I thought he said a while ago it was automated. I won't said anything about it if was just a person mentioning it.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: wwwjason on 06 July 2016, 13:44:14
they were available at Origins but they had a limited quantity.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd388/nickname00100/Trade%20Items/20160616_110957%201_zps2rfiybps.jpg) (http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/nickname00100/media/Trade%20Items/20160616_110957%201_zps2rfiybps.jpg.html)

Wow - thanks!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 July 2016, 14:07:07
Those are nice
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dulahan on 06 July 2016, 14:09:53
They really, really are.

Which ones are they again?  I concede my unit badge heraldry knowledge is terrible. 

We've got (Left to right)

Wolf's Dragoons, GDL, Eridani Light Horse, ?????, Northwind Highlanders, Avanti's Angels, ?????, Kell Hounds, and ????
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: IronSphinx on 06 July 2016, 14:12:30
The Merc Company dice seem to be all I've heard so far (And the reason the Catalyst booth is my beeline during the running of the Lemmings!)
I've pretty much given up on collecting the custom dice. I got tired of showing up on Friday morning only to find out that the dice that I wanted were gone and then see them show up on ePay at price-gouging rates. Decided it just wasn't worth the frustration. Besides, I'd rather have any new novel that gets released or the latest sourcebook so I don't have to wait months for my FLGS to get them in (nice enough people, but they're not always as diligent with special ordering  Battletech product as I would like). I will say, though, that the merc pins that CGL was selling last year were pretty cool. Was happy to be able to get a full set of those, and the young lady running the register was kind enough to let me know that if I spent $10 more, I'd be spending enough to get one of the extra pins as a freebie.

Oh, and the dice appear to be: Wolf's Dragoons, GDL, Eridani Light Horse, Hansen's Roughriders, Northwind Highlanders, Avanti's Angels, Crescent Hawks, Kell Hounds, and 21st Centauri Lancers
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Maingunnery on 06 July 2016, 14:19:57

I would have like it if they made some MRBC dice.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HodgePodge on 06 July 2016, 14:43:17
They really, really are.

Which ones are they again?  I concede my unit badge heraldry knowledge is terrible. 

We've got (Left to right)

Wolf's Dragoons, GDL, Eridani Light Horse, ?????, Northwind Highlanders, Avanti's Angels, ?????, Kell Hounds, and ????

Hansen's Roughriders, the Crescent Hawks, and the 21st Centauri Lancers
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cubby on 06 July 2016, 15:49:20
I've pretty much given up on collecting the custom dice. I got tired of showing up on Friday morning only to find out that the dice that I wanted were gone and then see them show up on ePay at price-gouging rates.

Imagine my frustration, having never been able to make it to Gen Con at all. Although maybe it's worse to have been there and still missed out.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 06 July 2016, 15:54:27
Imagine my frustration, having never been able to make it to Gen Con at all. Although maybe it's worse to have been there and still missed out.

This, but not really. It just sucks.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: RoundTop on 06 July 2016, 16:40:33
On the first page! :)

But yeah, not sure which is worse.  But have gone to GC before (and heading there again in under a month). Cool new product hotness is hot.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: sadlerbw on 06 July 2016, 17:32:23
Physical copies of 1sw were at origins, so I expect those and the house dice will be back at GenCon. I'm guessing there may be a limited number of physical copies of CO since the PDF is out, but that is speculation. Regarding the merc dice, I don't think those were at the catalys booth. I think they were only at chessex.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 06 July 2016, 17:52:52
I got tired of showing up on Friday morning only to find out that the dice that I wanted were gone and then see them show up on ePay at price-gouging rates. Decided it just wasn't worth the frustration.

While I agree with the frustration, my experience with eBay suggests that most of the folks buying the dice up want them for themselves. There's definitely one or two vendors who are buying to resell, but when I see dice from other people it looks like just a bare handful of people offloading their "extras," typically no more than two or three individual dice each.

I think it's interesting, and important, to realize that BattleTech's market is really quite small. Looking at my own wins and losses on eBay, there's rarely more than one or two active "super fans" at any one time, and it's rarely the same people over more than a month or so timeframe (though it can be hard to tell; eBay really makes it difficult to research buyers). With very few exceptions, I discovered that even if a specific item is being priced beyond my means, I need only wait for it to appear a third or fourth time to get a good deal.

So what does this have to do with New and Upcoming Releases? Why, the Q-Workshop dice, of course! Buy them. Buy as many as you want. But buy them to use or collect, not as an investment. In fact, don't treat anything BT-related as an investment.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 06 July 2016, 18:22:40
Hey, I design all the dice and I don't have them all. And some blessed soul outright swiped my Cameron dice at GC. It is what it is.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 06 July 2016, 18:30:07
Those Cameron dice are my holy grail. Some day...some day...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 06 July 2016, 18:52:13
Did you guys have win right to own the Cameron dice?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 06 July 2016, 19:16:34
Hey, I design all the dice and I don't have them all. And some blessed soul outright swiped my Cameron dice at GC. It is what it is.

Given how insane gamers are about dice, I'd never bring my special sets to a convention. Which annoys me, because it makes me into a hoarder. >:(
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: truetanker on 06 July 2016, 19:35:51
I kinda have a fetish for die... I currently own two goldfish size bowls full of them, not counting my Royal Crown liter bags of D&D sets, the fruity colored ones and my special Black and Red death set. Or my 2 sets of 5 mm Movement dice, 20 die each set.


TT
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Feenix74 on 06 July 2016, 19:36:20
To be brutally honest, BT is a terrible investment, while individual items could make a good return, the pool of potential buyers is small. You are better off saving your pennies and buying Berkshire Hathaway shares  O0

We are all part of the BT community be we love the game, in all its forms, to varying degrees. I certainly do not begrudge those who buy BT dice and other collectables and sell them for a profit on ebay. However, I simply look at the prices that some ask for these collectables and then respond in the immortal words of Darryl Kerrigan "tell him he's dreamin'! " (from The Castle for you non-Aussies who may not have seen the movie), have a chuckle and keep scrolling.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 06 July 2016, 20:19:55
Go ahead, steal my dice. See what happens the instant you start rolling MY dice at a table.  }:)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 06 July 2016, 20:20:38
I wonder what this years Battletech T-Shirt will be? I liked it when I could get posters, would love to hand up a new one on the wall
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Azakael on 06 July 2016, 20:26:28
::crossing fingers::

Of all the dice there, the only ones I want are the Crescent Hawks ones. (Though some pink dice with Ace Darwin's logo on them? I'd grokk those.)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Acolyte on 06 July 2016, 21:12:48
Go ahead, steal my dice. See what happens the instant you start rolling MY dice at a table.  }:)

Ummm.... you have put a warning label on those things, haven't you?

   - Shane
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 06 July 2016, 21:38:51
Go ahead, steal my dice. See what happens the instant you start rolling MY dice at a table.  }:)
No Sane individual who knows OF you and your rap to want come inches to your majestic dice.  #P ;D

I need get some of my own one these days.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 06 July 2016, 21:39:12
Ummm.... you have put a warning label on those things, haven't you?

I wonder how Hellbie's dice would work against Hellbie himself?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: cavingjan on 06 July 2016, 21:53:53
I wonder how Hellbie's dice would work against Hellbie himself?

Surprisingly very well. His dice just hate him.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 July 2016, 23:02:32
So they hate him so much he can't even land a 2 on a 3d6? :o
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Fletch on 07 July 2016, 04:41:06
I certainly do not begrudge those who buy BT dice and other collectables and sell them for a profit on ebay. However, I simply look at the prices that some ask for these collectables and then respond in the immortal words of Darryl Kerrigan "tell him he's dreamin'! " (from The Castle for you non-Aussies who may not have seen the movie), have a chuckle and keep scrolling.

But if you bought them they would be going straight to the pool room!  ;D
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: wantec on 07 July 2016, 06:37:30
Go ahead, steal my dice. See what happens the instant you start rolling MY dice at a table.  }:)
*rolls* oh look a 12. *rolls again* Hey another 12.  Hellbie, I thought you said your dice sucked?

Surprisingly very well. His dice just hate him.
Or maybe it's just that.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 07 July 2016, 07:24:15
I wonder how Hellbie's dice would work against Hellbie himself?

We're immune.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 07 July 2016, 08:10:00
Well, I should have my Dice sets delivered shortly.

I guess that our next big release is Combat Manual: House Kurita.  PDF before Gencon perhaps?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mbear on 07 July 2016, 08:28:56
I've pretty much given up on collecting the custom dice. I got tired of showing up on Friday morning only to find out that the dice that I wanted were gone and then see them show up on ePay at price-gouging rates. Decided it just wasn't worth the frustration. Besides, I'd rather have any new novel that gets released or the latest sourcebook so I don't have to wait months for my FLGS to get them in (nice enough people, but they're not always as diligent with special ordering  Battletech product as I would like). I will say, though, that the merc pins that CGL was selling last year were pretty cool. Was happy to be able to get a full set of those, and the young lady running the register was kind enough to let me know that if I spent $10 more, I'd be spending enough to get one of the extra pins as a freebie.

They had several of those pins available at Origins. I picked up an ELH pin, but I can't remember what the other units were.

Regarding the merc dice, I don't think those were at the catalys booth. I think they were only at chessex.

The CGL booth had some at Origins. That's where I bought my 21st Centauri Lancers die. :)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: IronSphinx on 07 July 2016, 08:55:30
Imagine my frustration, having never been able to make it to Gen Con at all. Although maybe it's worse to have been there and still missed out.

I did the game mule thing at Gen Con last year and picked up product for four of my friends who couldn't attend the con. Was really stressful arriving there early and then running around to make sure that all the orders were fulfulled. It doesn't surprise me to see a lack of people, on the BT forums I frequent, volunteering to pick up dice, pins, t-shirts, and books for people who can't make GC this year. :/

While I agree with the frustration, my experience with eBay suggests that most of the folks buying the dice up want them for themselves. There's definitely one or two vendors who are buying to resell, but when I see dice from other people it looks like just a bare handful of people offloading their "extras," typically no more than two or three individual dice each.

Whether they are selling extras or buying the entire fishbowl to put on ePay, the results are the same. Yeah. It's aggravating when you show up on Friday morning and are there when the doors open only to find out that the Davion, Kurita, and Steiner metal dice were all gone by Thursday afternoon. Granted, CGL "could" sell a limited number of dice every day so everyone (theoretically) has a chance of getting them. But it doesn't make much sense from a business standpoint. You want product to bring in that con money as soon as possible as well as not have to pay to ship anything back. And selling con exclusives on BattleCorps post-con season means you have stock taking up space on your shelf and/or you're allocating money for what amounts to collectable kitsch when you could be using it on the next boxed set print run. I don't think that there's any good solution to this issue.

So what does this have to do with New and Upcoming Releases? Why, the Q-Workshop dice, of course! Buy them. Buy as many as you want. But buy them to use or collect, not as an investment. In fact, don't treat anything BT-related as an investment.

Hah! I think the days of people thinking that they could make good money on their Battletech collections died somewhere after the FASA 'closing-its-doors' announcement and the early FanPro days. I know I scrambled to complete my collection back then. I still see some people who'll pay serious money for an original Marauder or Marauder IIC sculpt--or when Mort Weisman puts a mint-copy of the Star League sourcebook online (there's an apocryphal story behind that)--but nothing like what I saw on ePay back then. Going forward, I still think the only times that we're going to be seeing people paying serious cash is on the fringe con-exclusive merch--like the more popular faction metal dice. As for the Q-Workshop dice, it's an interesting idea, but the dice look too noisy visually for my tastes. Unless I'm playing D&D, I'll take pips over numbers any day.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: hive_angel on 07 July 2016, 09:21:09
Are there any unbiased explanations and reviews on what campaign operations offers to both games of battletech and a time of war respectively?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 07 July 2016, 11:58:07
Are there any unbiased explanations and reviews on what campaign operations offers to both games of battletech and a time of war respectively?

Mostly the same things, along with the other BattleTech rules sets: different options for running linked campaigns. Total Warfare also gets Alpha Strike-style lance abilities.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mbear on 07 July 2016, 12:54:59
Are there any unbiased explanations and reviews on what campaign operations offers to both games of battletech and a time of war respectively?

There's a nice force building system which can be used for creating a house, mercenary, or pirate unit. It's an updated version of the rules for running a merc unit found in FM:Mercs which integrates with rules in StratOps.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Pa Weasley on 07 July 2016, 18:51:31
Surprisingly very well. His dice just hate him.
Damn I'm tired. I read that as "just ate him" and thought that was unfortunate but curiously not surprising.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cache on 07 July 2016, 18:55:14
I got a little bored and I know how much playing catch-up on announcements sucks. If a Red/Blue/White BattleMaster wants to copy the lower portion of this post to the New BattleTech for Sale (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=2209.90) thread, they have my blessing. (If not, I won't be offended.) I left off the Q-Workshop dice and Legends Epubs because they're on the News and Announcements (http://bg.battletech.com/category/news/news-and-announcements/) page. (Campaign Ops is as well, but I included it here anyway.)


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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Daryk on 07 July 2016, 19:31:13
Thank you for the effort!  That's exactly what I'm looking for in that thread.  Hopefully TPTB will copy and paste your update into that thread.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 07 July 2016, 20:40:16
meh.. I have two of the three, need to get the new TtS
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Feenix74 on 07 July 2016, 21:43:59
Not sure if anyone has mentioned that Battletech Legends: Measure of a Hero (by Blaine Lee Pardoe) is now available in ebook format.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 08 July 2016, 06:13:42
Very good books.  I finally got a tablet, but still being luddie dummy trying figure out the best way to read epub without having something blotted on it. FedCom Civil War books were my favorites Mr. Pardoe wrote.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 08 July 2016, 06:55:04
I didn't even notice that 2 of the TofS books came out. Great news.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 08 July 2016, 11:45:01
I finished impetus of war. I am ready for you guys to start popping out the twilight of the clans.

I have had a complete set of novels for years . My first time trying to read through them in order I made it to assumption of risk. In the last couple of years I started over and made it to double blind. Then a new baby and life made reading print near impossible. E books have got me through double blind, binding force, and impetus of war.

What book covers the whitting conference? I have been through 8 books since malicious intent.
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Post by: Cubby on 08 July 2016, 13:40:55
What book covers the whitting conference?

Grave Covenant, Book II of Twilight of the Clans
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mrbooth on 09 July 2016, 08:17:17
Good morning all just thought everyone would like to know CM Kurtia is out, enjoy all
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Post by: Cache on 09 July 2016, 09:03:25
Good morning all just thought everyone would like to know CM Kurtia is out, enjoy all
Oooooh... so it is.

Just because I can, and pictures are more obvious than text:




BattleTech Combat Manual: Kurita

(http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/E-CAT35261-BattleTech-Combat-Manual-Kurita-1.jpg)

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Some soldiers fight for money, some to spread their version of liberty, still others for a sense of adventure. For the men and women of the Draconis Combine Mustered Soldiery there is only one reason for service: the honor of the Dragon.
From the moment Shiro Kurita raised the Dragon’s banner, the soldiers of House Kurita have remained dedicated to the warrior’s path above all others. For seven centuries they have spread fear and respect in equal measure, expanding and protecting the Dragon with loyalty and honor tempered by the ancient code of bushido and forged in battles on a hundred worlds.
BattleTech Combat Manual: Kurita contains information on these warriors. This manual examines the combat commands of the Draconis Combine, detailing their histories, tactics, unit crests, paint schemes, and notable personnel. This Alpha Strike expansion includes special rules for unique character abilities, faction-specific rules, force-building, and a mini-Technical Readout—everything you need to field your favorite Draconis Combine unit on the tabletop, or create your own.



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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 09 July 2016, 09:04:52
Good morning all just thought everyone would like to know CM Kurtia is out, enjoy all

I looked at the table of contents in the preview....table lists phoenix hawk and wasp.
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Post by: Cache on 09 July 2016, 09:21:07
I looked at the table of contents in the preview....table lists phoenix hawk and wasp.

Phoenix Hawk is the only one we haven't seen, and what a beauty it is. The Wasp, Wolverine, and BattleMaster have appeared before.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mrbooth on 09 July 2016, 09:22:29
Battlemaster, Phonies Hawk, Wolverine, Wasp in the tro plus the new Marauder mini painted up and the 3d model. Which really needs it's own release just like the warhammer.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cache on 09 July 2016, 09:39:13
plus the new Marauder mini painted up and the 3d model.
I want to say the nuSeen Locust mini is in the "Samurai and Ronin" section a few times as well, but I am suspicious of the image. I think they, or the colors at least, are CGI. Tough to tell with the size of the image, but there is a repeat in the exact same pose and angle. The nuSeen Marauders in that section look like CGI as well, except for the SoL Marauder that Dave Fanjoy painted.

[edit: Not intending the CGI comments as a complaint, just observations. And the more I look the more I see other paint schemes appear photoshopped.  :D ]
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Empyrus on 09 July 2016, 11:05:59
Whaat?

Another stealth release?

BRB, buying...

EDIT Or not. DriveThru doesn't accept my Visa Electron for some reason... I recall having that problem before but then i actually managed to fix it. Now? No luck.

EDIT Does DriveThru's PayPal option allow for guest-checkouts? I don't have PayPal account nor do i intend to make one but i can use guest checkout, if available.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mrbooth on 09 July 2016, 11:29:36
Whaat?

Another stealth release?

BRB, buying...

EDIT Or not. DriveThru doesn't accept my Visa Electron for some reason... I recall having that problem before but then i actually managed to fix it. Now? No luck.


Seems to be a problem with drive thru because it will not take my card either and I tried a second one to be sure.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Daryk on 09 July 2016, 11:32:00
It could be that their server is just too busy.  I had a similar problem when Campaign Ops came out, but it was working the next morning.
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Post by: Empyrus on 09 July 2016, 11:40:47
Oh, i see. Well, i'll wait till tomorrow then, i got other stuff to do anyway, like finish reading 1st Succession War.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 09 July 2016, 13:50:11
Looks like another big release came out today also.

My poor poor wallet.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Pat Payne on 09 July 2016, 14:04:57
Those sneaky little so-and-sos, they thought they could sneak a newly-minted and GORGEOUS Classics Marauder mini without us noticing? Preparing to bate my breath again... O0

And because I've done this for the rest of them, and nobody's thrown rotten fruit at me for doing so, here are the differences between a PHX-1 Phoenix Hawk and a Northrom/Shinnakasu Heavy Industries VF-1S Valkrie with FAST Pack adaption (the "Super Valkyrie"):

This one definitely, and understandably, is a major departure from the source material, as this is the crown jewel of they who shall not be named's adaptation of a Japanese anime.

1. The FAST Packs/jump jets have been completely redesigned. The upper portion (which in the original housed micro-missile launchers), has been made concave and shortened. From the front angle it's hard to get a good look at the profile of the packs, but I can assume that given what can be seen, they've been considerably slimmed down from the bulky space thrusters seen in Macross. Almost certainly (though this is speculation until a rear view is available) the "backpack" section (which stowed the empennage while in Battroid and GERWALK modes) has been deleted as well.

2. The head has undergone a complete redesign, including making the head more angular, extending the cockpit glazing further up the head (as opposed to the "knight's visor" camera eye on the VF-1S, this also has the added effect of giving some design continuity with the Project Phoenix P-Hawk which features a large glazed cockpit). The four antennae on the head have been retained as a "tip o' the hat" to the Valkyrie's head lasers.

3. The shoulders are considerably different in shape and profile, and include small armor tags on the lower outboard edges.

4. The arms are also redone, with the hands (much like on the Wasp) being integral to the forearm as opposed to the Valkyrie's arrangement (meant to retract into the forearm when transforming). The FAST Pack armor on the forearms (originally housing micro-missile launchers) have been recast into more recognizable machine gun or laser housings.

5. The hand-held Gatling cannon of the original is no more, replaced with what looks to be a hand-held laser cannon which bears no similarity to the original source.

6. The body bears only the vague shaping lines of the Valkyrie. Much of the aircraft-specific styling has been completely done away (for instance the air brake aft of the cockpit and the dorsal forward air intakes) with and the body itself has been made much more angular. The cockpit area has been deleted, and the nosecone turned into a more hip-like affair, including having a torus/"donut"-style ring just above the leg-torso connection.

7. The legs have been made angular, rather than the round, aerodynamic styling of the Valkyrie. The air scoops have a vestigial callback at the very top of the leg (now most likely serving as a heat sink). The FAST Pack fuel tanks on the legs are omitted completely, as are the ventral fins on the legs. The only major similarity between the Phoenix Hawk and the Valkyrie in this area is in the A-frame feet.

All in all, another stunning success at a redesign. Now then -- I ask you: When will we get minis?

Also: Given that in the mini-TRO, they mentioned that the P-Hawk was based on the Stinger chassis, does this giv us a clue to the likely appearance of the Stinger?
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Post by: ColBosch on 09 July 2016, 15:14:04
Also: Given that in the mini-TRO, they mentioned that the P-Hawk was based on the Stinger chassis, does this giv us a clue to the likely appearance of the Stinger?

Hopefully, or a lot of the neat connections in the fluff will be lost.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 09 July 2016, 16:36:00
Interesting little tidbits throughout.

*A detailed explanation of just how Duke Ricol fit into the combine.
*The Amphigean LAGs really are mercenaries!
*The Ryuken were once nine regiments strong. Very briefly.
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Post by: Wrangler on 09 July 2016, 17:03:07
Thank you for posting this, Cache!
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Post by: Tai Dai Cultist on 09 July 2016, 17:15:40

*The Amphigean LAGs really are mercenaries!

Oh, What a day!

What a LOVELY day!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Scotty on 09 July 2016, 17:23:18
Interesting little tidbits throughout.

*A detailed explanation of just how Duke Ricol fit into the combine.
*The Amphigean LAGs really are mercenaries!
*The Ryuken were once nine regiments strong. Very briefly.

I'm guessing "very briefly" encompasses the amount of time stretching from the moment they arrived in-system for Misery, until the end of the first day of fighting. O0
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 09 July 2016, 17:40:36
Also digging the panther variant.

I'm guessing "very briefly" encompasses the amount of time stretching from the moment they arrived in-system for Misery, until the end of the first day of fighting. O0

Didn't even make it that far, actually. Four of those regiments were destroyed by the Dragoons just in the fighting leading up to Misery.
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Post by: Deadborder on 09 July 2016, 17:52:50
I know what MegaMek Icon I'll be drawing next...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: YingJanshi on 09 July 2016, 18:30:08
Also digging the panther variant.

Now if only we could get TW stats for it...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 09 July 2016, 18:40:31
You can recreate the 9ALAG easily by removing the jumpjets and just upping the engine by one movement point. Everything fits fine.

Though an official record sheet would be nice.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cubby on 09 July 2016, 20:17:45
In case anyone is keeping track, that's a core rulebook and a combat manual laid out and published in the span of a week.

Hey, Adrian Gideon, ya dead?  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfb1fUTXCy0)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Evil Imperial on 09 July 2016, 20:37:15
What I want when the combat manuals are done is, well a Records Sheets: Combat Manuals for all the unique variants they show us in the Combat Manuals so we can use them in Battletech.  O0
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Feenix74 on 09 July 2016, 21:26:34
Yet to be confirmed but I will just leave this lit firecracker here on the table . . .

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53535.msg1234371#msg1234371 (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53535.msg1234371#msg1234371)

If it is confirmed then  [drool]
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: VhenRa on 10 July 2016, 01:40:51
Yeah, I will join everyone in liking that Panther variant.

5/8 is really competitive with 4/6/4 in usefulness.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Klat on 10 July 2016, 02:11:09
Maybe I'm missing something but where's the PV for the PNT-9ALAG?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 10 July 2016, 03:58:03
In case anyone is keeping track, that's a core rulebook and a combat manual laid out and published in the span of a week.

Hey, Adrian Gideon, ya dead?  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfb1fUTXCy0)

Its a good week for new stuff. Putting the pieces together for Gencon!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 10 July 2016, 06:15:45
Maybe I'm missing something but where's the PV for the PNT-9ALAG?

It's missing.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: nckestrel on 10 July 2016, 06:47:02
Maybe I'm missing something but where's the PV for the PNT-9ALAG?

Sorry, it's 20 PV.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Sellsword on 10 July 2016, 07:02:01
Those sneaky little so-and-sos, they thought they could sneak a newly-minted and GORGEOUS Classics Marauder mini without us noticing?

Classics Marauder Mini preview!  Where is that?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 10 July 2016, 07:50:31
Classics Marauder Mini preview!  Where is that?

Paint scheme section of CM: Kurita. Also, Locust.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 10 July 2016, 10:28:34
All the new unit logos in color!!  *drools*

Fantastic product!  Thank you.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Pat Payne on 10 July 2016, 11:43:40
Yet to be confirmed but I will just leave this lit firecracker here on the table . . .

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53535.msg1234371#msg1234371 (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53535.msg1234371#msg1234371)

If it is confirmed then  [drool]

Dunno if you've seen it yet, Feenix, but it is officially confirmed.

Gentlemen, our long interstellar nightmare is now over.

We return you to our regularly scheduled interstellar cataclysm, known as the Succession Wars and everything that followed it  O0
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 July 2016, 11:54:58
I wonder how long it will be until we see the nuClassics in miniature form.  I know that Shadow Hawk and something else is coming out later quarters of this year, which is great. I'm surprise the Warhammer and Marauder is taking longer. :(
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Pat Payne on 10 July 2016, 11:58:39
I wonder how long it will be until we see the nuClassics in miniature form.  I know that Shadow Hawk and something else is coming out later quarters of this year, which is great. I'm surprise the Warhammer and Marauder is taking longer. :(

I'm wondering if now that there are five confirmed Classic minis sculpted or at least prototyped and ready for production (Whammie, Marauder, Locust, Shad, OstScout), if there might be an announcement at Gencon regarding the Classics.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 10 July 2016, 16:24:33
Fingers crossed for some Crusader art love soon!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Feenix74 on 10 July 2016, 16:34:31
Dunno if you've seen it yet, Feenix, but it is officially confirmed.

Gentlemen, our long interstellar nightmare is now over.

We return you to our regularly scheduled interstellar cataclysm, known as the Succession Wars and everything that followed it  O0

Cheers and thanks Pat, I am on GMT+10 so just read it as I ate breakfast. It is a glorious (if showery, overcast and cold) day.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: sadlerbw on 10 July 2016, 17:00:27
I think this may be the first time in history I'm actually excited to get a shadow hawk 2H and an ostscout 7J! Normally when I roll those up I curse my luck. Anyway, when they come out I will pick at least one of each. They aren't my favorite classics but I'm so happy to see them again I'll buy them anyway just to celebrate.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: jimdigris on 10 July 2016, 19:26:49
I am curious why IWM is releasing the Shadow Hawk and Ostscout first.  They had the Warhammer for nearly a year.  Perhaps CGL is planning on releasing the Warhammer, Marauder, and Locust as a plastic lance pack.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon41673 on 10 July 2016, 19:34:31
Catalyst is the one that has had the Warhammer for a year...not IWM. IWM gets the ok on what to cast & when directly from a group decision at Catalyst  (at least that's what I've been told by IWM). So it's not IWM that made the decision on the Ostscout or Shadow Hawk.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: speck on 10 July 2016, 20:46:58
I am curious why IWM is releasing the Shadow Hawk and Ostscout first.  They had the Warhammer for nearly a year.  Perhaps CGL is planning on releasing the Warhammer, Marauder, and Locust as a plastic lance pack.

IWM has nothings to do with the Classics that will be release in plastic. The warehammer is a 3D print that CGL had done to show off the new design just in time for Gen Con last year.

Catalyst is the one that has had the Warhammer for a year...not IWM. IWM gets the ok on what to cast & when directly from a group decision at Catalyst  (at least that's what I've been told by IWM). So it's not IWM that made the decision on the Ostscout or Shadow Hawk.

Not completely actuate and will leave it at that.
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Post by: ColBosch on 11 July 2016, 02:01:28
Back to CM: Kurita, I really appreciated the sidebar on Duke Hassid Ricol. I think it very nicely ties together the early history of this unusual character and lays the seeds for his later treachery as a member of the Black Dragon Society.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon41673 on 11 July 2016, 05:42:34
Not completely actuate and will leave it at that.

 O0 No problem...that's what I was told from Melissa, so that's all I had to go on.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kazashi on 11 July 2016, 06:25:12
Campaign Operations and now Combat Manual: Kurita? Add the last half-dozen TtS PDFs and my bank account is giving me worried looks! That's not even taking novel releases into account  :o

It's great to see these products come to fruition. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little concerned about some of the more recent developments in the greater BTU, but I'm regularly pleased and surprised with the work CGL puts into these books.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 11 July 2016, 06:30:51
I'm glad the dam of the drought of big new releases has broke.  This sometimes happens, there was one just before the onslaught of the awesome  Faction-Themed TRO3145 PDF releases came out.

CM Kurita came out, which was very cool, i secretly hope when The Second Succession War come out that Phoenix Hawk LAM will be in there.  I was slightly disappointed it wasn't in CM Kurita, but i guess it be like completely new entry for the Mech.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 11 July 2016, 07:58:06
I think someone said that the LAMs are further down the list for redraws, because we have the Mk Is from TR3085 to stand in for the time being. CGL may have to revise that, as there are only enough conventional 3025-era 'Mechs for three more Combat Manuals, and we need at least four CMs for the remaining Great Houses...

The current tally, by the way, is: Locust, Wasp, Valkyrie, Ostscout, Phoenix Hawk, Griffin (visual only), Shadow Hawk, Wolverine, Archer (visual only), Thunderbolt (visual only), Warhammer, Marauder (visual only), BattleMaster

Remaing Unseen: Stinger, Stinger LAM, Wasp LAM, Phoenix Hawk LAM, Scorpion, Ostroc, Ostsol, Rifleman, Crusader, Longbow, Goliath, Marauder II, Galleon Light Tank, all TR3055 second-line Clan 'Mechs, and the TR3058 ComStar/WoB 'Mechs.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 11 July 2016, 08:14:57
The releases over these last couple weeks have made me realize what has been accomplished these last few years....

The Core Rule books....done
Handbook series....done
New Novels.....done with more coming
Plastic miniatures.....done with more coming (at least the Classics)
The Unseen Issue.....gone
New Video game....done (MechWarrior Online) and one on the way (Harebrained Schemes project)
Faster way to play the game (aka Alpha Strike)....done
Faction Dice....done
Connecting the Jihad era to the Dark Age....done
Historicals for the 1st and 2nd Succession Wars.....done and on the way

Heck, even my personal wants for the game are being fulfilled with the mini publications.

Its a great time to be a BattleTech fan!  Here's hoping for many more years of stompy robot goodness!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 11 July 2016, 08:33:14
Remaing Unseen: Stinger, Stinger LAM, Wasp LAM, Phoenix Hawk LAM, Scorpion, Ostroc, Ostsol, Rifleman, Longbow, Goliath, Marauder II, Galleon Light Tank, all TR3055 second-line Clan 'Mechs, and the TR3058 ComStar/WoB 'Mechs.
And the Crud!  >:(

While we've got art for most of them, a lot of those that you listed as having art haven't appeared yet in a Combat Manual, so there's still more to go around for the rest of the Classics.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cubby on 11 July 2016, 08:50:43
The releases over these last couple weeks have made me realize what has been accomplished these last few years....

Faster way to play the game (aka Alpha Strike)....done

Also, a gorgeous new series of Combat Manuals for that flavor of the game. Which, thanks to CO, are also integrated into classic BattleTech.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 11 July 2016, 09:31:26
And the Crud!  >:(

While we've got art for most of them, a lot of those that you listed as having art haven't appeared yet in a Combat Manual, so there's still more to go around for the rest of the Classics.

Not enough to have four per Combat Manual without repeats.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: VhenRa on 11 July 2016, 10:22:48
Where did we get the Thunderbolt again?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: 00Dawg on 11 July 2016, 11:34:18
Where did we get the Thunderbolt again?
Draft art for 2nd Succession War, I think.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Scotty on 11 July 2016, 11:55:35
In no particular order:

Stinger
Griffin
Scorpion
Rifleman

Crusader
Thunderbolt
Archer
Marauder (has not appeared in a Combat Manual yet)

Goliath
Longbow
Ostroc
Ostsol

Marauder II
Stinger LAM
Wasp LAM
Phoenix Hawk LAM

By my count that's enough for each House yet to come.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 11 July 2016, 11:57:31
My point was that I recalled someone saying the LAMs are not up for redraws yet. Yeesh, people. :P
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Scotty on 11 July 2016, 12:02:35
Whoops, forgot the Valkyrie.  So at most only two short.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ActionButler on 11 July 2016, 12:31:14
I was really excited to see the Merc battlemech list when the first Combat manual was released, but was still reluctant about the idea since we didn't have any other factions to compare it to.  With the Kuritan mech list available now, I am a lot more comfortable with how the system is shaping up. 

Also, that Marauder mini looks brilliant.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 11 July 2016, 13:24:55
Cant wait till I see these mini's live of the redos
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 11 July 2016, 14:21:43
In case anyone is keeping track, that's a core rulebook and a combat manual laid out and published in the span of a week.
Yeah, I'm alive again.

Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: 00Dawg on 11 July 2016, 14:41:40
(http://socialcomotion.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/its-alive.jpg)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: speck on 11 July 2016, 14:43:45
Yeah, I'm alive again.

Who are you again.....
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 11 July 2016, 15:24:04
This mini talk has confused me more.

The plastics are catalyst and the metal are iron winds? Do they have different "molds"? What has been done in plastic that wasn't in the boxed set?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: RoundTop on 11 July 2016, 15:51:24
This mini talk has confused me more.

The plastics are catalyst and the metal are iron winds? Do they have different "molds"? What has been done in plastic that wasn't in the boxed set?

IWM has the rights to produce battletech minis in metal.
They typically have worked with CGL to ensure plastic figures and the metal ones match up pretty closely.

Due to costs of injection molded plastic, it is not possible for IWM to produce anything with it (machinery costs alone for plastic injection are in the $100k range and up, plus molds are more expensive).  So all of BT's plastic minis have been made in China (where 99% of injection moulded plastic is done).  There have been rumors for quite some time about a clan box set, vehicle set, etc.  With all the new classic unseen designs, the speculation is that they will do a plastic sets of these designs. Whether this occurs or not, who knows. But IWM will be likely kicking out metal versions of the figures too (as their post about the shadown hawk and ostscout seems to validate)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: klarg1 on 11 July 2016, 15:53:12
This mini talk has confused me more.

The plastics are catalyst and the metal are iron winds? Do they have different "molds"? What has been done in plastic that wasn't in the boxed set?

All of the Ironwind Battlemech minis are metal, and are sculpted specifically for metal production by IWM.

Catalyst's plastics are made from entirely separate molds, and will have their own, unique, sculpts for the nuSeen, eventually produced in plastic (we hope - no release plan has been announced).

As was mentioned upthread, CGL showed off some 3D prints for a nuSeen Whammy sculpt at Gencon last year, but nothing has been released for sale. (yet) IWM has officially announced that they will be releasing their own metal sculpts for the Shad and the Ostscout near the end of 2016*, which also bodes well for possible metal versions of more nuSeen in 2017.

* - noting that there are often delays, and that release dates are never guaranteed.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 11 July 2016, 16:30:20
IWM has the rights to produce battletech minis in metal.
They typically have worked with CGL to ensure plastic figures and the metal ones match up pretty closely.

Due to costs of injection molded plastic, it is not possible for IWM to produce anything with it (machinery costs alone for plastic injection are in the $100k range and up, plus molds are more expensive).  So all of BT's plastic minis have been made in China (where 99% of injection moulded plastic is done).  There have been rumors for quite some time about a clan box set, vehicle set, etc.  With all the new classic unseen designs, the speculation is that they will do a plastic sets of these designs. Whether this occurs or not, who knows. But IWM will be likely kicking out metal versions of the figures too (as their post about the shadown hawk and ostscout seems to validate)

Weird question from someone that has never been really into minis for any game....what "resolution" are plastic and metal minis to? If you had a home 3d printers 3d modeling skills, and time to run it overnight, would it be more detailed than what is on the market? Would it be noticeable?

I don't understand how much detail is in a mass market product or home created product.
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Post by: RoundTop on 11 July 2016, 16:46:01
Weird question from someone that has never been really into minis for any game....what "resolution" are plastic and metal minis to? If you had a home 3d printers 3d modeling skills, and time to run it overnight, would it be more detailed than what is on the market? Would it be noticeable?

I don't understand how much detail is in a mass market product or home created product.

short answer: there is no common "resolution" that is easy to explain, but no it will never be more detailed unless you increase the scale. it would be very noticable.

In SOME high end 3D printers (commercial style) it is possible to get the level of detail of plastic minis, but even those are hit and miss, and the cost in plastic and machine time is higher than buying.

Here is someone 3D printing warhammer minis with a good 3D printer. Notice the horizontal lines. Each of those is a pass of the printer. You can't get smaller detail than a pass. Have a good look at the faces, and notice how washed out the details are. Panel lines are not a thing in 3D printing (unless you cut them yourself).

http://imgur.com/TQPyvlO (http://imgur.com/TQPyvlO)
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Post by: bobthecoward on 11 July 2016, 16:48:51
For the record, I have no 3d printer nor 3d modeling skills nor interest. But on a random day I learned about layer height and width of home printing while completely having no idea what "20 nanometers" means for a game miniature.
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Post by: RoundTop on 11 July 2016, 17:12:22
For the record, I have no 3d printer nor 3d modeling skills nor interest. But on a random day I learned about layer height and width of home printing while completely having no idea what "20 nanometers" means for a game miniature.

Those resolutions and nomenclature only exist for 3D printers, which is why it isn't really comparable. And there are different technologies for 3D printers too to confuse things further.  3D printers use a material and then use a depositing system (some use just glue and air, others lasers, UV light, etc) to build layers a certain thickness, then build up layer by layer. This may also require the use of bracing (to be cut off later) to hold it while printing. It takes several hours for a single figure at a medium resolution (all differ). All 3D printed objects then have to be treated afterwards, depending on material I have heard of acid baths, sanding, isopropyl alcohol.

No matter what, 3D printed figures will be more delicate / prone to break than metal or injection moulded plastic of the same item.

In pewter casting (IWM), a mould is made out of steel from a master miniature (prototyped in 3D, sculpted, and finalized), and is then the mould is spun while melted pewter is added. This gets it into every crevase.  Where the two sides of the mould meet you can get flashing (the little lines). If the sides aren't exactly aligned, this can cause the offset flashing you sometimes see on metal minis. The tags are locations where the pewter was fed in. This is considered gravity fed.

For plastics a sprue is designed and a large mould is created, typically this is around 4-12 different miniatures, though it can vary. Plastic is heated to very specific temperatures and injected under pressure into the mould via the sprues. The heat, pressure, and polymer used all go into the amount of detail it can hold, how flexible it is (or brittle), and so on.  Again though, it all comes down to the sculpt detail. good sculpt = good detail (as long as you use the right plastic). the better quality and larger, the most expensive the materials.
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Post by: Feenix74 on 11 July 2016, 22:22:05
If my memory serves me correctly, metal spin casting (as used by IWM to produce pewter BT minis) uses a rubber mold while plastic injection molding (as used by CGL to do the plastic minis from the Intro Box Set and the Lance Packs) use a steel mold.
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Post by: klarg1 on 11 July 2016, 22:36:06
If my memory serves me correctly, metal spin casting (as used by IWM to produce pewter BT minis) uses a rubber mold while plastic injection molding (as used by CGL to do the plastic minis from the Intro Box Set and the Lance Packs) use a steel mold.

Correct, although, to add another wrinkle:

The steel plates for injection molding are not normally made from 3D printed masters, but from the digital files, or from a 3D scan of a traditionally sculpted master. That means the end resolution depends on the machining process that cuts the die from the steel, not your 3D printer.

On the flip side, spin-cast metal molds are made from a physical master, which may be 3D printed, since they can't be made directly from a digital file - the rubber has to be poured around something. 3D prototypes usually sometimes get quite a lot of cleanup to resolve print resolution issues before the master mold is made to help with that problem.

Hooray for technology!
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Post by: RoundTop on 11 July 2016, 23:14:39
In the old days of the 2000s, before 3D printing was as much of a thing, there was a post on LOTB about making the Mad Cat resculpt. It was almost all green stuff and clay. From this a silicone mould was made (low temperature), then a resin mini was cast from this which could withstand high heat. It was cleaned up and more detail added, then the proper mould for pewter was made from this master. I can't find the post anymore sadly, but it was neat seeing all the stages laid out.
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Post by: Feenix74 on 12 July 2016, 01:25:52
I missed so much good stuff during my short sabbatical from BT (2000-2012)  :'(

I am still trying to play catch up.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 12 July 2016, 01:46:29

Short? That's nearly a quarter of my lifetime
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Post by: Feenix74 on 12 July 2016, 02:13:25
It is just more than 1/4 of my lifetime too. I am just glad to be back now that career and instant family commitments have receded a little bit. Time flies when you are having fun . . .
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Post by: Cache on 12 July 2016, 09:24:30
In the old days of the 2000s, before 3D printing was as much of a thing, there was a post on LOTB about making the Mad Cat resculpt. It was almost all green stuff and clay. From this a silicone mould was made (low temperature), then a resin mini was cast from this which could withstand high heat. It was cleaned up and more detail added, then the proper mould for pewter was made from this master. I can't find the post anymore sadly, but it was neat seeing all the stages laid out.
He used metal intermediates similar to Hubbuch.  Found it for ya.

*Warning! Occasional NSFW language*
http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10253

Atlas too: http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12419

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Post by: bobthecoward on 12 July 2016, 12:10:20
Waiting on legends Tuesday. Hopefully it is twilight of the clans.
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Post by: RoundTop on 12 July 2016, 12:24:38
He used metal intermediates similar to Hubbuch.  Found it for ya. http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10253

Atlas too: http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12419

Thats the one I was thinking about. And posted in 2004. Over a decade ago. Wow.
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Post by: Cache on 12 July 2016, 16:50:03
Thats the one I was thinking about. And posted in 2004. Over a decade ago. Wow.
I was relieved to see that he posted the pics as attachments (LOTB server). We've lost so much great information and eye-candy to obsolete off-site hosting.  :-\
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Post by: ph423r on 12 July 2016, 17:01:13
He used metal intermediates similar to Hubbuch.  Found it for ya. http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10253
Atlas too: http://www.lordsofthebattlefield.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12419

Would anyone have any info or stats on the Mk1 Clan Mech stats that get mentioned in the first link?
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Post by: Cache on 12 July 2016, 17:06:20
Would anyone have any info or stats on the Mk1 Clan Mech stats that get mentioned in the first link?
They're a myth. Best answer I could find was that maybe they were the stats used for the original Virtual World OmniMechs.
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Post by: mrbooth on 12 July 2016, 17:42:45
Is there going going to be a legends release today?
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Post by: ColBosch on 12 July 2016, 21:13:36
Would anyone have any info or stats on the Mk1 Clan Mech stats that get mentioned in the first link?

As Cache said, they're a hoax. Two CGL freelancers physically went through the FASA archives and found no mention of them, even in the earliest drafts for TR3050. Someone invented stats they felt better matched the art/minis, and tried to pass them off as "official."
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 12 July 2016, 21:55:37
Did they look through FASA 1628, the Comstar book?  Just wondering, that might have been left out of the search.   ;D

I know we had a lot of fun with the ISP series for the Jihad.  As far as upcoming products go, will there be anything more like those?  I can see a bunch of opportunities for Starling's theories around Stone, the Wall, the Republic and whatnot.
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Post by: Mech42ace on 12 July 2016, 22:44:02
Remaing Unseen: Stinger, Stinger LAM, Wasp LAM, Phoenix Hawk LAM, Scorpion, Ostroc, Ostsol, Rifleman, Crusader, Longbow, Goliath, Marauder II, Galleon Light Tank, all TR3055 second-line Clan 'Mechs, and the TR3058 ComStar/WoB 'Mechs.
Personally as far as clan second line machines, I'm really looking forward to seeing the Griffin IIC only to have a mini that looks similar to the unseen.
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Post by: VhenRa on 13 July 2016, 02:36:38
Honestly... that thing looks more like a refugee from Gundam.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 13 July 2016, 02:59:54
As Cache said, they're a hoax. Two CGL freelancers physically went through the FASA archives and found no mention of them, even in the earliest drafts for TR3050. Someone invented stats they felt better matched the art/minis, and tried to pass them off as "official."
Do you happen to remember roughly when the freelancers went through the archives? I don't doubt you, I'm just curious, as I've heard odd stories about early OmniMech discrepancies for years.
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Post by: SCC on 13 July 2016, 04:07:23
As Cache said, they're a hoax. Two CGL freelancers physically went through the FASA archives and found no mention of them, even in the earliest drafts for TR3050. Someone invented stats they felt better matched the art/minis, and tried to pass them off as "official."
Someone once linked me to a site that claimed that they appeared in a magazine months before the Clans where revealed else where, as a sort of trial run, said site ALSO said that said magazine was used as evidence in FASA Vs. HG
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 13 July 2016, 04:34:42
Someone once linked me to a site that claimed that they appeared in a magazine months before the Clans where revealed else where, as a sort of trial run, said site ALSO said that said magazine was used as evidence in FASA Vs. HG

Problem being nobody can produce said magazine. All accounts tend to boil down to "I saw it once," or "Someone I knew once had a copy".

I seem to recall that Catalyst for their part has stopped short of calling it an outright hoax, and has even said they'd love it if someone could locate an actual copy of the supposed magazine, BUT, they also seemed as certain as possible that it doesn't exist.
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Post by: ColBosch on 13 July 2016, 04:54:28
I seem to recall someone did find a copy of the issue of Stardate, and it had nothing about the Clans in it.

Do you happen to remember roughly when the freelancers went through the archives? I don't doubt you, I'm just curious, as I've heard odd stories about early OmniMech discrepancies for years.

My memory is fuzzy these days, but it had to have been close to a decade ago, when the Mk I Omni story got big in the community. I know the gentlemen who did the search, and trust their word.
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Post by: Karasu on 13 July 2016, 06:13:48
I found something that seemed a bit odd in the Mech availability in Combat Manual Kurita (it may also have been in Mercenaries, but I don't have mine handy).

The Assassin ASN-21 is marked as being a General, but rare design in the Late Succession Wars.
The Assassin ASN-23 is marked as being a General, but not a rare design in the Early Clan Invasion.

As I understand it ASN-23s are field refits of ASN-21s using some rediscovered tech.  How, in that case, are there more 23s than 21s?
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Post by: RoundTop on 13 July 2016, 07:27:43
Comstar. :)

And some mechs were mothballed due to unavailable parts, which the clan invasion Era they had parts again.  See the mongoose. Almost extinct until comstar came back out and the clans hit.
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Post by: cavingjan on 13 July 2016, 07:40:34
The ASN-23 went into production but I'm not sure when.
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Post by: Stinger on 13 July 2016, 07:41:22
Quote from: bobthecoward li itnk=topic=53485.msg1234931#msg1234931 date=1468272620
Weird question from someone that has never been really into minis for any game....what "resolution" are plastic and metal minis to? If you had a home 3d printers 3d modeling skills, and time to run it overnight, would it be more detailed than what is on the market? Would it be noticeable?

I don't understand how much detail is in a mass market product or home created product.

I can answer this!

Most "cheap" 3D printers cannot produce anywhere near the quality of IWM minis. Some of the highest end consumer grade models can. I personally use a Form 1+ printer and when it prints at .05mm resolution, it can look near IWM quality. At .025mm it does look IWM quality. But there is a big but. All 3D printers that are consumer grade need support material to print. This support material leaves substantial distortion and marks on the rear of the minis. It can look pretty terrible.

Source: I am a 3d sculptor for IWM and I 3d print Prototypes for all of my minis.
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Post by: nckestrel on 13 July 2016, 07:57:54
I found something that seemed a bit odd in the Mech availability in Combat Manual Kurita (it may also have been in Mercenaries, but I don't have mine handy).

The Assassin ASN-21 is marked as being a General, but rare design in the Late Succession Wars.
The Assassin ASN-23 is marked as being a General, but not a rare design in the Early Clan Invasion.

As I understand it ASN-23s are field refits of ASN-21s using some rediscovered tech.  How, in that case, are there more 23s than 21s?

The ASN-23 went into production but I'm not sure when.

Production wasn't until 3067.  So yeah, for the early clan invasion it should still be rare.
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Post by: mbear on 13 July 2016, 07:59:08
I found something that seemed a bit odd in the Mech availability in Combat Manual Kurita (it may also have been in Mercenaries, but I don't have mine handy).

The Assassin ASN-21 is marked as being a General, but rare design in the Late Succession Wars.
The Assassin ASN-23 is marked as being a General, but not a rare design in the Early Clan Invasion.

As I understand it ASN-23s are field refits of ASN-21s using some rediscovered tech.  How, in that case, are there more 23s than 21s?

Easy. All existing ASN-21s in service were refitted to the ASN-23 standard.

Edit: Actually I found a different explanation in TRO:3050

Quote from: TRO:3050, p. 34
In late 3067, Hellespont ’Mech Works...expressed interest in acquiring the Assassin as a test-bed platform. Distracted by ... the Jihad and ... Maltex quickly agreed and gave Hellespont full control over the design.
Though Hellespont began building several Assassin platforms for research and development, they also began mass-producing the -23 variant for the CCAF and various Capellan militias.
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Post by: nckestrel on 13 July 2016, 08:08:17
The Combat Manuals only cover up to 3054 at most.  So production in 3067 wouldn't affect it's availability in the CMs.
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Post by: cavingjan on 13 July 2016, 08:23:46
Thanks nckestrel. (limited access to my materials while on vacation)
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Post by: jymset on 13 July 2016, 09:32:28
I seem to recall someone did find a copy of the issue of Stardate, and it had nothing about the Clans in it.

Also, the TRO was released in 1990, while the StarDate/StarDrive mutation and the magazine's following end happened in 1988. That's too much time for a "preview".

...and that's just a factoid. I own and love StarDate and can confirm what you're saying, Bosch.

In fact, I've scoured most fanzines. If the Mk I Omnis aren't in an obscure issue of ComNet or MF Quarterly (and I'm gonna say they aren't) and they weren't covered in Wunderwelten (and I'm fairly sure they weren't), we're about out of options.

Unless FASA disseminated them on flyers at a con. Which then would be imprinted in BT cultural memory. I don't think so.

I love the obscure and mythical. But this one crystalized as urban legend after the forum brainstorm that Bosch referenced.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 13 July 2016, 09:32:51
The Combat Manuals only cover up to 3054 at most. 

Which explains why the Raptor, a TRO 3058 design - although 3058 U has them first walking of the production line in 3052, is on the faction list while the Gunslinger and Kimodo are not.
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Post by: roosterboy on 13 July 2016, 10:52:39
Do you happen to remember roughly when the freelancers went through the archives? I don't doubt you, I'm just curious, as I've heard odd stories about early OmniMech discrepancies for years.

It would have been around the time that FASA closed up shop, because that's when the folks in question got their hands on the archives.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 13 July 2016, 22:09:15
I'm going to suggest (as I seem to do often) that discussion of the Mk.1 Omni hoax get taken to another thread. Please.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 14 July 2016, 02:45:10
ColBosch's comment about the freelancers going over the various drafts of TRO3050 pinged for me because one of the things I really like hearing about is the different production stages new sourcebooks go through, and the thinking behind them. There've been some really interesting posts and comments made over the last few years - Ben Rome's blogs on Wars of Reaving, Randall Bill's comments on things like Interstellar Ops - and I'd love to see similar details for upcoming projects. I know that doesn't work with products that aren't being made visible, and is probably dangerous because it could set expectations up that are disappointed later, but there's something about the process of developing new BattleTech products that I find absolutely fascinating.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 14 July 2016, 11:30:17
ColBosch's comment about the freelancers going over the various drafts of TRO3050 pinged for me because one of the things I really like hearing about is the different production stages new sourcebooks go through, and the thinking behind them. There've been some really interesting posts and comments made over the last few years - Ben Rome's blogs on Wars of Reaving, Randall Bill's comments on things like Interstellar Ops - and I'd love to see similar details for upcoming projects. I know that doesn't work with products that aren't being made visible, and is probably dangerous because it could set expectations up that are disappointed later, but there's something about the process of developing new BattleTech products that I find absolutely fascinating.

Feel the same way. Always enjoyed the way Herb would tease stuff, or show the processes behind product. Sadly the fans ruined that (hence the current silence from the Devs).
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Post by: sadlerbw on 14 July 2016, 11:42:15
Well, it isn't totally gone. The catalyst Tumblr feed regularly has previews and info on pre-production work. Now, it isn't hugely detailed all the time, but they do post art and snippets from un-released products and Randall occasionally drops various sized walls of text talking about the development process. I don't usually do social media all that much, but I do check in on that tumblr feed once every week or two and have found it worth the effort.
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Post by: Daryk on 15 July 2016, 02:55:21
The "New BattleTech For Sale" thread finally got updated!  It's all stuff we've talked about here already, but at least it's posted where it makes the most sense now.  Thanks to the forum staff!  O0
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Post by: I am Belch II on 15 July 2016, 12:16:17
Great stuff. Love seeing what comes next.
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Post by: GespenstM on 16 July 2016, 16:28:55
Sorry to bring this up, not sure where to properly ask... but has anyone heard any word on Record Sheets TRO 3150 NTNU? I'm really curious to get the final specs on the TMP-4M Tempest and the Orion C, and after months of waiting I'm beginning to lose hope that the product will actually come out.

(EDIT: Upon further review, I also had some interest in the AWS-11V and the BLR-6M, and am curious if FWL gets the MR-7K... but ah well.)
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 July 2016, 17:16:02
There been nothing to mention about.
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Post by: VhenRa on 16 July 2016, 17:42:04
Sorry to bring this up, not sure where to properly ask... but has anyone heard any word on Record Sheets TRO 3150 NTNU? I'm really curious to get the final specs on the TMP-4M Tempest and the Orion C, and after months of waiting I'm beginning to lose hope that the product will actually come out.

(EDIT: Upon further review, I also had some interest in the AWS-11V and the BLR-6M, and am curious if FWL gets the MR-7K... but ah well.)

Me, I am interested in some of the new BA. Like that new Kanazuchi.
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Post by: GespenstM on 16 July 2016, 18:41:07
That's starting to get really, really disappointing. Like, 'hurting my enthusiasm for buying further products' level disappointed.
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 July 2016, 22:16:50
You shouldn't.  We just had a pause im the big new releases due to them being huge product.
Interstellar Operations and Campaign Operations were huge juggernaut size products we've been waiting years and years.  First Succession War was another.  We just got Alpha Strike themed Combat Manual for Kurita which has stuff for everyone.  That's really good releases.
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Post by: SteveRestless on 17 July 2016, 17:27:22
I would presume that for the designs to get mentioned in TRO 3150 NTNU, someone had to design them and get them approved. Which means the sheets exist in some form. For it to take over a year to get those sheets released seems pretty ridiculous to me. Especially when the previous component TROs set such a nice precedent of coming WITH the record sheets.
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Post by: ColBosch on 17 July 2016, 17:31:48
Which means the sheets exist in some form.

Nope.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 17 July 2016, 17:34:25
From what ive heard there is a serious micromanagement problem at CGL. Probably why things are released at a snails pace.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 17 July 2016, 17:49:40
From what ive heard there is a serious micromanagement problem at CGL. Probably why things are released at a snails pace.

If by "micromanagement" you mean the management is micro-sized, you'd probably be on to something. They're not a big company. There's a limit to how many things a small group of people can work on simultaneously.
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Post by: ColBosch on 17 July 2016, 17:51:20
From what ive heard there is a serious micromanagement problem at CGL. Probably why things are released at a snails pace.

Nope.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 17 July 2016, 17:53:43
Snails pace?  Have you seen what we have gotten this year?  And we still have products coming out!

Relax.  It will get here when it gets here.  While I too want more stuff, my wallet needs time to recover ;)
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Post by: SteveRestless on 17 July 2016, 19:00:09
Nope.

So you're telling me that nobody designed the mechs that are in NTNU and just made up vague descriptions without checking whether they'd work?  ???
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 17 July 2016, 19:03:30
So you're telling me that nobody designed the mechs that are in NTNU and just made up vague descriptions without checking whether they'd work?  ???

Pretty sure he's saying that having the design worked out and having a record sheet are two different things. Turning out finished battletech record sheets isn't as easy as you might think.
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Post by: Scotty on 17 July 2016, 19:06:20
As a quick reminder, CGL cannot actually use something like SSW or MML to make their record sheets, because that would be using not-for-profit third party software to create for-profit content.  They have to make them all by hand (as much as making a digital piece of paper can be said to have been done "by hand").
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Post by: ColBosch on 17 July 2016, 19:14:42
As a quick reminder, CGL cannot actually use something like SSW or MML to make their record sheets, because that would be using not-for-profit third party software to create for-profit content.  They have to make them all by hand (as much as making a digital piece of paper can be said to have been done "by hand").

I used a legal pad, TYVM. O0

Pretty sure he's saying that having the design worked out and having a record sheet are two different things. Turning out finished battletech record sheets isn't as easy as you might think.

Exactly. Because of the effort involved in producing a record sheet, most of the time all that is seen (and checked) is a standard stat block, plus a few extra notes for the MUL.
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Post by: SteveRestless on 17 July 2016, 19:50:05
Given the plethora of Free and Open Source Software content creation tools, I cannot imagine the fact that the software is external FOSS being any sort of actual legal hurdle. Every day there are businesses and governments using tools created under the same license as MML to create their content, it's a strength of software like that, not a threat.

But even if unnecessary internal restrictions forbid it, with some custom weapons input and a little creative cut-and-paste I could produce record sheets for nearly, if not everything in 3150NTNU with nothing more than the heavy metal suite and an image editor. Likely in under a week.
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Post by: GespenstM on 17 July 2016, 19:59:52
While that might be underestimating the work involved by a little... I agree with the general sentiment. The idea that a product dangled in front of us a year ago has had no updates brought to our attention is a little disappointing.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 17 July 2016, 20:26:54
Allot has happen in that time, including Interstellar Operations and Campaign Operations.

 I like to know more about the last volume of XTRO: Primitives myself but I also know CGL is still a relatively small team with allot of stuff in the works.   
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 17 July 2016, 20:47:36
But even if unnecessary internal restrictions forbid it, with some custom weapons input and a little creative cut-and-paste I could produce record sheets for nearly, if not everything in 3150NTNU with nothing more than the heavy metal suite and an image editor. Likely in under a week.

Prove it.

not specifically the designs in 3150 NTNU, but the same number, the same variety, all using current total warfare sheet layout, all using the current in game technology.

Do all that in under a week.

(and you still won't have a grasp of what's involved with doing all of that while also doing work for other projects in the game line while also holding down a full time job, while also sending things in for fact checking and approval...)
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Post by: SteveRestless on 17 July 2016, 20:48:31
Prove it.

Somebody gives me the statblocks for the 3150NTNU mechs, I'd be glad to.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 17 July 2016, 20:55:00
Somebody gives me the statblocks for the 3150NTNU mechs, I'd be glad to.

Updated my details so that you don't have to demand information that hasn't been published yet.

Heck, I'll even provide you with a bunch of stats if you're really game.
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Post by: GespenstM on 17 July 2016, 22:00:06
Well, I appreciate the insights on this in any case. Thank you.
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Post by: klarg1 on 18 July 2016, 08:41:51
Given the plethora of Free and Open Source Software content creation tools, I cannot imagine the fact that the software is external FOSS being any sort of actual legal hurdle. Every day there are businesses and governments using tools created under the same license as MML to create their content, it's a strength of software like that, not a threat.

As you say, what you can do with software has nothing whatsoever to do with how much it costs, or who wrote it. It is entirely about the licensing agreement attached to it by the creator, and what it allows. I'll admit to not knowing what uses are permitted by the licenses attached to the various free 'mech editors out there, but some licenses are very restrictive on for-profit use, while others are not.

Performing a due diligence analysis on licensing terms takes time and money. CGL might simply lack the bandwidth to properly investigate right now.
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Post by: ColBosch on 18 July 2016, 08:52:54
CGL put out an open call for new design software a while back. Nothing has come of it yet.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 18 July 2016, 11:18:17
As a quick reminder, CGL cannot actually use something like SSW or MML to make their record sheets, because that would be using not-for-profit third party software to create for-profit content.  They have to make them all by hand (as much as making a digital piece of paper can be said to have been done "by hand").
Made in excel and then convert to pdf right? (that is what I use at work for manufacturing specification specs)

I can imagine that each takes up a lot of work, especially all the quality checks. (experience from work)
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Post by: Fat Guy on 18 July 2016, 15:28:49
Snails pace?  Have you seen what we have gotten this year?

Yes. Between last year's Gen Con releases and this year's Gen Con releases there have been exactly three print products.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 July 2016, 16:02:53
Five. GenCon's not here yet.
How many print releases should there be?
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Post by: Daryk on 18 July 2016, 19:05:34
And two of them are Core Rulebooks.  I'd have been quite happy with just either one of those, personally.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 19 July 2016, 09:53:45
CGL put out an open call for new design software a while back. Nothing has come of it yet.


I would love something to come out of this. The ability of customize Battletech is one of the best parts of the game.
I know I would be one of the first ones to get this item.
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Post by: ijewett on 19 July 2016, 10:37:42
Well, I got the book I was looking for. Thank you once again for Campaign Operations, fantastic book!!! Now the only thing I am waiting for is Miniatures of that beautiful new Warhammer. Plastic, Metal, Unobtanium, I don't care what you make them out of. I must have the precious... Oh, the other redesigned classics too, if you know, its no bother.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 July 2016, 11:32:45
But even if unnecessary internal restrictions forbid it, with some custom weapons input and a little creative cut-and-paste I could produce record sheets for nearly, if not everything in 3150NTNU with nothing more than the heavy metal suite and an image editor. Likely in under a week.

Just like you could put out a TRO easy-peasy, right?

The division of BattleTech's intellectual property makes many things more complicated than with other IPs.
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Post by: SteveRestless on 19 July 2016, 12:12:59
Just like you could put out a TRO easy-peasy, right?

No, not really. a TRO has a lot more going on I would imagine. There's fluff and facts that need to be checked, I imagine art is always expensive. I would imagine making a full TRO from scratch would be pretty difficult.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 19 July 2016, 12:20:47
Yes. Between last year's Gen Con releases and this year's Gen Con releases there have been exactly three print products.

And there have been eleven pdf products in addition to the print products, in addition to the new BattleTech dice, in addition to the work going into the Classic Miniatures, new novels, new Combat Manuals, the ISW maps, mini publications and probably a ton of stuff we don't see.  Its been a good year for BattleTech :)
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 July 2016, 13:09:48
And there have been eleven pdf products in addition to the print products
Thirteen PDF-only products since last GenCon, with more between now and GenCon 2016. And then there's the re-release of old novels added to that list.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 19 July 2016, 13:20:21
Thirteen PDF-only products since last GenCon, with more between now and GenCon 2016. And then there's the re-release of old novels added to that list.

No additional novels in two weeks. Is the pace going to slow down? There is no rush, I'm just super excited to finally read twilight of the clans.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 19 July 2016, 13:25:55
Thirteen PDF-only products since last GenCon, with more between now and GenCon 2016. And then there's the re-release of old novels added to that list.

Right!  Didn't think about the novels being re-released. 

You guys probably don't hear this enough, but thanks for all your hard work Adrian!  It is greatly appreciated.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 July 2016, 13:38:04
No additional novels in two weeks. Is the pace going to slow down? There is no rush, I'm just super excited to finally read twilight of the clans.
It's possible. Though Sulla, who posts things for sale, was out for a week and that affected last week's novel (a novel was posted the week before) and I didn't turn over the Touring the Stars figuring the same, and that may or may not affect this week.

You guys probably don't hear this enough, but thanks for all your hard work Adrian!  It is greatly appreciated.
Thank you kindly.
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Post by: Terminax on 19 July 2016, 19:12:35
Liking CM: Kurita allot if only for tidbits about units and such we haven't gotten before like a more detail description of the FRR. Even though I'm not much of an AS player (not a hater, just don't play it often it to have a feel for it), if it's meant to support the 3020-3054 era... is there much of a chance that when/if you guys get around to the Clans that we'll get the pre-Burrock Absorption details of the Burrocks/Burrock touman, not to mention the Blood Spirits. The Burrocks are the one Clan other than the Wolverines we only have drips and drabs on, but unlike the Wolverines were around a great deal longer.
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Post by: mbear on 20 July 2016, 07:25:23
No additional novels in two weeks. Is the pace going to slow down? There is no rush, I'm just super excited to finally read twilight of the clans.

It might have something to do with the fact that GenCon is coming up too. Probably a lot of work to get ready for that.
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Post by: RotS fan on 20 July 2016, 08:17:50
about the novels

Quote
The start of convention season and all caught us a little flat-footed as we realized we’d moved through all our currently prepped BattleTech Legends epubs. Considering the years of fighting to get these back, it’s fantastic to see we’ve already released 20 back into the wild! A new block of epubs is getting prepped and we’ll get them flowing soon.

http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/145965349006/legends-tuesday
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Post by: kurtl000 on 21 July 2016, 11:21:25
about the novels

http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/145965349006/legends-tuesday
excellent any news on a new novel yet?
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Post by: jimdigris on 21 July 2016, 14:50:58
Are there any new print products that will be debuting at Gencon?  I realize that Campaign Operations and the Kurita book were massive undertakings and I am grateful for them.  But, it is tradition for something new to arrive at Gencon.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 21 July 2016, 15:32:07
Thanks for the brand new stuff but where's the brand new stuff?
Or am I misunderstanding something?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 21 July 2016, 15:34:33
Thanks for the brand new stuff but where's the brand new stuff?
Or am I misunderstanding something?

I think he's looking for a Gencon unveil of something, rather than the .pdf being available prior to the convention.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 21 July 2016, 15:48:26
Well, if all goes as it should, those will be the two books premiering at GenCon.
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Post by: Dragon41673 on 21 July 2016, 16:34:04
Adrian...

Before you say it, yes I know you cannot comment on "when"...but, is there light at the end of the tunnel for Primitives V5, TRO Golden, and TRO Irregular anytime soon? These have been teased for a long time now...especially Primitives V.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 21 July 2016, 16:45:58
Primitives V will be out soon—I thought I'd have it out as soon as this week, but turned out another (non-BattleTech) project needs to be prepped for GenCon, so it'll have to wait just a little while longer.

I know that TROs Golden Century and IrregularTech are a long time coming, but unfortunately they're still in development.
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Post by: Dragon41673 on 21 July 2016, 20:11:53
Awesome! Thank you!
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Post by: kurtl000 on 21 July 2016, 22:22:53
excellent any news on a new novel yet?
Is this one of those "hush hush secrets just ignore him" things? Just wondering cuz I like to be ignored I mean who doesn't?
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Post by: SCC on 21 July 2016, 22:27:42
Additionally XTRO: Succession Wars, Volume 1 kidna says that there will be a Volume 2, is that still going ahead? Further more why wasn't the Prototype equipment from that volume is IO?
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Post by: Cache on 21 July 2016, 22:31:18
excellent any news on a new novel yet?

how about this: https://blainepardoe.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/clan-wolverine-news/
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Post by: Scotty on 21 July 2016, 22:50:19
Is this one of those "hush hush secrets just ignore him" things? Just wondering cuz I like to be ignored I mean who doesn't?

You waited literally 11 hours in the middle of convention season on a Friday night to complain about being ignored.  Quite frankly if I were a Catalyst employee and not a volunteer I'd have ignored it until Monday.

You will get news of novels when there is news of novels to give you.  Unless I miss recall, this is the same answer you were given last time you brought it up.
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Post by: JadedFalcon on 21 July 2016, 23:07:34
how about this: https://blainepardoe.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/clan-wolverine-news/

Wasn't expecting that. Something to add to my reading list...

I know that TROs Golden Century and IrregularTech are a long time coming, but unfortunately they're still in development.

Still happy to hear that they're in progress. Looking forward to the day spoilers for those two show up.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 22 July 2016, 00:12:15
You waited literally 11 hours in the middle of convention season on a Friday night to complain about being ignored.  Quite frankly if I were a Catalyst employee and not a volunteer I'd have ignored it until Monday.

You will get news of novels when there is news of novels to give you.  Unless I miss recall, this is the same answer you were given last time you brought it up.
Catalyst employees are answering questions so what are you talking about? And it's the third time it's been ignored.  Just say sorry nothing to share yet don't just IGNORE the fan.  Shows you have either no respect for fellow human beings or your company policy sucks. I mean look how long it took them to do something about Battlecorps??? Bad PR over that site for at least a year with nothing but silence from Catalyst.  But hey I'm the only fan on here it seems asking about novels so what's the big deal right?  Screw him right? He'll be back eventually.  I guess the questions about sourcebooks and dice are more important.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 22 July 2016, 00:25:53
excellent any news on a new novel yet?

You mean, aside from the "Working on new epubs" from the 20th, and Blaine Pardoe's "Betrayal of Ideals" book about Clan Wolverine?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 22 July 2016, 00:43:40
kurtl000, here's the situation. No one here has any direct knowledge about novels (or BattleCorps, since you brought it up). Totally different group of people, different development, etc. As far as novels go, I post what I know (and what I'm allowed to). No more than that. Asking repeatedly doesn't change the information I have or what I can share. When information is released about novels (like Blaine's Betray of Ideals), 9 times out of 10 I hear about it in the same fashion as everyone else, and is then filtered into this forum (and thank you Blaine for posting that here).

What I'd recommend is to follow Catalyst on Twitter and/or Facebook (or even tumblr), as that's where any new Shadowrun or BattleTech novel information gets posted first, and if you have questions regarding novels you can ask there, as not only are those accounts manned by myself, but also Randall Bills and John Helfers, who's in charge of CGL's novel lines.

facebook.com/CatalystGameLabs/
@catalystgamelab
catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com

Thanks.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 22 July 2016, 01:27:50
You mean, aside from the "Working on new epubs" from the 20th, and Blaine Pardoe's "Betrayal of Ideals" book about Clan Wolverine?
The new epubs is regarding the legends novels correct? So no those arent new. Betrayal of Ideals isn't new and it was posted AFTER the last time I asked. So what's the point of your comment other than an attempt to make me look silly?
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 22 July 2016, 02:03:32
How about this. Up until recently CGL has not been able to publish any new novels. Now that they can they cannot magically wave their fingers and a new book appears. It takes time to write a book. But before a new book can be written an author must be found. For the moment the ONLY new BattleTech novel in the works that we know about is being written by M Stackpole for the new BattleTech game being developed by HBS.

So, be happy we are able to get novels now. We could still be stuck with short stories on BC ya know. The Legends books are a good start since they are easier to get out the door while new novels are being worked on. CGL has a tiny staff to handle everything so they move at a snails pace at times.
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Post by: SCC on 22 July 2016, 03:54:33
I think part of the problem might be developing novel strategy. In the classic BT novel line up about half the novel where spine and the other half focused on specific units (Wolves on the Border is a good example of one that bridged the gap, the original Grey Death Trilogy a bad example), but as time went the line blurred.

And when MW:DA came out part of the set up was a NEW novel line that you wouldn't had to have read the old one to understand, and all of the novels in that where spine, or at least look like it. All of this together creates a rather large barrier to entry for NEW readers, so any CGL novel strategy has to take this into account in order to minimize this going forward (At this point the BT novels number over 50, even ignoring cost, that's a lot to read and several forumites have voiced opinions about some of the earlier novels of lesser quality).

Oh, and just to make things worse, any source book fiction and BTC fiction has to be fitted into this as well
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 22 July 2016, 03:58:34
The new epubs is regarding the legends novels correct? So no those arent new. Betrayal of Ideals isn't new and it was posted AFTER the last time I asked. So what's the point of your comment other than an attempt to make me look silly?
Blaine's article mentions that the novel edition of Betrayal of Ideals will have two new chapters - one at the beginning, and one as an epilogue, and that the epilogue will have people buzzing.

He also mentions that preparing the novel edition of Betrayal of Ideals meant pausing work on the other new BattleTech novel that he's working on - so there's at least one more new novel in the works.

I can't and wouldn't speak for Alexander Knight or anyone else here, but my opinion is that you're acting in a fashion that displays a remarkable degree of entitlement, to the extent that if I were someone working for CGL, I'd resent your tone. Now, I may just be a special internet flower with delicate feelings, but I've always found that it's more likely I'll get an answer to questions about new products from companies if I'm polite, rather than if I'm waving bits of my anatomy around and demanding to be serviced because I Am A Customer.

Adrian's posted the twitter link for the CGL BattleTech account, and I'd definitely recommend following it. I see messages on there from Randall most days, and in the past, he's been happy to swap a few comments with me about all sorts of things, from playing Arkham Horror to vague questions about new products, and those who run the twitter account seem to be genuinely nice and helpful. If you make polite enquiries there, I suspect you've got more chance of getting answers about novels than you have here.
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Post by: Cubby on 22 July 2016, 06:14:34
For the moment the ONLY new BattleTech novel in the works that we know about is being written by M Stackpole for the new BattleTech game being developed by HBS.

There's also this, from back in May.

https://blainepardoe.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/progress-on-my-new-battletech-novel/
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Post by: CungrVanck on 22 July 2016, 06:48:22
how about this: https://blainepardoe.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/clan-wolverine-news/

Could we get a hint at the final fate of Clan Woliverine?  Do they meet Comstar?  The world wonders!

Read the BattleCorps stories and they were awesome!
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Post by: Sharpnel on 22 July 2016, 07:09:04
Could we get a hint at the final fate of Clan Woliverine?  Do they meet Comstar?  The world wonders!

Read the BattleCorps stories and they were awesome!
It all ends in flames. Glorious and beautiful flames. ;)
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Post by: Gaiiten on 22 July 2016, 07:36:41
Thanks for the brand new stuff but where's the brand new stuff?
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Same procedure as always  ;)
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Post by: Dulahan on 22 July 2016, 09:50:15
Blaine's article mentions that the novel edition of Betrayal of Ideals will have two new chapters - one at the beginning, and one as an epilogue, and that the epilogue will have people buzzing.


Clan Wolverine ilClan confirmed!   OMG.  ;p

More seriously, looking forward to the novel, since I haven't read those stories at all yet and they sound like they'll be interesting.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 22 July 2016, 11:11:42
how about this: https://blainepardoe.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/clan-wolverine-news/
Two new chapters.... now I will buy it.

Also now we have a 'canon' Clan Wolverine camo scheme.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 22 July 2016, 12:03:14
It strikes me as odd that they'd print Betrayer of Ideals (essentially a Battlecorps anthology) before A Bonfire of Worlds - the only BattleTech novel never released in print form.   ???
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Post by: RoundTop on 22 July 2016, 12:09:16
Welcome to the wonderful world of publishing rights. they get messy quickly.
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Post by: GhostBear on 22 July 2016, 12:16:30
It strikes me as odd that they'd print Betrayer of Ideals (essentially a Battlecorps anthology)

Not an anthology; it's by only one author, not multiples.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 22 July 2016, 13:46:08
It strikes me as odd that they'd print Betrayer of Ideals (essentially a Battlecorps anthology) before A Bonfire of Worlds - the only BattleTech novel never released in print form.   ???

It's an actual novel though. Was simply serialized on BattleCorps. (As was done with A Bonfire of Worlds as well.)
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Post by: kurtl000 on 22 July 2016, 14:44:06
Imagine when Shadows of Faith is finally announced! Money cannons blasting down CGL's doors.  Me asking when the next novel will be............
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Post by: SCC on 22 July 2016, 15:36:51
Welcome to the wonderful world of publishing rights. they get messy quickly.
My LIMITED understanding of the situation is that the Dark Age novel line did not include e-publishing, so when DA went belly up e-publishing, and only e-publishing, would be a neat trick to get an already written novel published.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 22 July 2016, 15:38:45
My LIMITED understanding of the situation is that the Dark Age novel line did not include e-publishing, so when DA went belly up e-publishing, and only e-publishing, would be a neat trick to get an already written novel published.

Almost all of the ROC era Dark Age novels got e-published at the time.
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Post by: Spaceman on 22 July 2016, 17:54:32
Almost all of the ROC era Dark Age novels got e-published at the time.

The only DA Novels not published in e-book format is Trial By Chaos (#20), Principles of Desolation (#21), Wolf Hunters (#22), and Surrender Your Dreams (#23). All other books in the line have an e-book. I don't know why these four are not, but that is the way it is.

I always enjoy BattleTech Fiction even republished BattleCorps stories as I was not really a fan of BattleCorps and once I got a kindle hated that the stories only came out in pdf format.
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Post by: 00Dawg on 22 July 2016, 23:31:05
Also now we have a 'canon' Clan Wolverine camo scheme.
Actually, that's one of the two we've had for several years.  Gotta love those Calumet High School colors!
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Post by: Sharpnel on 23 July 2016, 02:07:44
Imagine when Shadows of Faith is finally announced! Money cannons blasting down CGL's doors.  Me asking when the next novel will be............
The preview is in 'Embers of War'
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Post by: Dragon41673 on 23 July 2016, 05:40:48
Actually, that's one of the two we've had for several years.  Gotta love those Calumet High School colors!

I wasn't aware of a second canon scheme for Wolverine. I knew about the blue/yellow...and I know about the brown/black that isn't canon...but what's the other canon one?
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Post by: cavingjan on 23 July 2016, 06:45:39
From the same source of the blue with yellow and white also gave us a yellow with blue and black scheme too.
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Post by: 00Dawg on 23 July 2016, 08:40:47
The CSO article in question:
http://www.camospecs.com/Article/Details/54/painting-a-clan-wolverine-scheme (http://www.camospecs.com/Article/Details/54/painting-a-clan-wolverine-scheme)
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 July 2016, 10:55:09
Aww i was hoping that they had a paint scheme that was base yellow withe black stripes and accents for the Wolverine paint scheme.
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Post by: Dragon41673 on 23 July 2016, 14:32:32
From the same source of the blue with yellow and white also gave us a yellow with blue and black scheme too.

The CSO article in question:
http://www.camospecs.com/Article/Details/54/painting-a-clan-wolverine-scheme (http://www.camospecs.com/Article/Details/54/painting-a-clan-wolverine-scheme)

Ahhhh I forgot about that reversal! Thanks to you both! I wish the black/brown was canon...but I know the reasons why it's not.
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Post by: cavingjan on 23 July 2016, 14:41:05
Where did the brown/black scheme come from?
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Post by: 00Dawg on 23 July 2016, 15:25:08
I remember Jal Phoenix doing some up in that nifty brown scheme, I think on a lark.  Maybe he can chime in.
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Post by: 00Dawg on 23 July 2016, 15:27:37
Aww i was hoping that they had a paint scheme that was base yellow withe black stripes and accents for the Wolverine paint scheme.

“Another Wolverine scheme reverses the yellow and blue of the iconic paint job, and changes white for black."

That's pretty darn close.  That would translate as "yellow with significant blue markings and black highlights".
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 July 2016, 15:37:08
“Another Wolverine scheme reverses the yellow and blue of the iconic paint job, and changes white for black."

That's pretty darn close.  That would translate as "yellow with significant blue markings and black highlights".
Looking forward to seeing in the flesh!  :D O0
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Post by: Scotty on 25 July 2016, 01:37:41
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)

(http://ironwindmetals.com/images/FactoryNews/20-5141-BW.jpg)
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 25 July 2016, 02:02:45
Soooo pretty  [drool]

I know what I want for x-mas  :Jumpy:
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Post by: The Eagle on 25 July 2016, 02:20:44
It's very. . . leggy.  The torso just looks too small by comparison for me.  But then again, I hardly ever run Shadow Hawks so I'm not exactly the target audience.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 25 July 2016, 02:50:15
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)

(http://ironwindmetals.com/images/FactoryNews/20-5141-BW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/fOTlhkj.jpg)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 25 July 2016, 04:00:45
I need that also...

I really want that Orca that came out also!
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 25 July 2016, 08:27:23
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)

(http://ironwindmetals.com/images/FactoryNews/20-5141-BW.jpg)

Simply: I want this so bad...
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Post by: Atlas3060 on 25 July 2016, 08:39:47
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)
Wow I may actually field one of those things again.
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Post by: ijewett on 25 July 2016, 10:33:34
Well that is very nice to see, excellent sculpt. Much earlier than expected.

Hopefully we will see the Warhammer before too much longer as well. 
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Post by: CungrVanck on 25 July 2016, 11:39:01
Just found an Unseen Shadow Hawk the other day and would gladly add this one to my growing horde.  I better budget myself at Gencon or I am going to come home with a regiment!
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Post by: Fat Guy on 25 July 2016, 11:48:52
Be still my heart...there's a new print BattleTech product available for pre-order at barnesandnoble.com!   :o

The Campaign Companion! Availability date is August 31st (take that with the appropriate grain of salt  ;)).


Great to see new BattleTech available at Barnes & Noble again!
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Post by: SteelRaven on 25 July 2016, 12:03:25
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)

(http://ironwindmetals.com/images/FactoryNews/20-5141-BW.jpg)
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/80638dc40978c286b5d3f18b2bfcf3d6/tumblr_mzrnd97Rfa1sl5seto1_400.gif)
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 July 2016, 12:15:34
Be still my heart...there's a new print BattleTech product available for pre-order at barnesandnoble.com!   :o

The Campaign Companion! Availability date is August 31st (take that with the appropriate grain of salt  ;)).


Great to see new BattleTech available at Barnes & Noble again!

I think B&N didn't get the memo about the name change to Campagn Operations.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 25 July 2016, 13:18:49
I think B&N didn't get the memo about the name change to Campagn Operations.

And they're showing the old cover to boot!
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Post by: RotS fan on 25 July 2016, 14:16:18
I think B&N didn't get the memo about the name change to Campagn Operations.
to be fair it seems CGL didn't receive it either. The Coming Releases page still shows the book with the old name and cover.

http://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/
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Post by: klarg1 on 25 July 2016, 14:55:36
(http://i.imgur.com/fOTlhkj.jpg)

Indeed. If all the NuSeen come out this well, I'm going to have to find some more painting time, and a much sturdier wallet.
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 July 2016, 15:19:03
to be fair it seems CGL didn't receive it either. The Coming Releases page still shows the book with the old name and cover.

http://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/
Yes, I didn't mean to blame B&N.  I should have said B&N wasn't send the memo.
My intended point was that it was not a new, different product.  There's no Campaign Companion coming out.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 25 July 2016, 15:42:18
I haven't seen this reposted to any other boards yet, so here you all go. (http://ironwindmetals.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/45-new-classic-shadow-hawk-shd-2h-early-release-at-gen-con-2016)

(http://ironwindmetals.com/images/FactoryNews/20-5141-BW.jpg)

This looks like it's going to be a joy to paint, and looks awesome. In short...
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Post by: Reldn on 25 July 2016, 21:37:03
Okay....as a rule, I do not like working with metal at all, but, in the case of this Shadow Hawk? ...I need it. I need it now.   [drool]
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Post by: sadlerbw on 26 July 2016, 10:53:31
I don't normally like intro-tech Shadowhawks...but that is a nice sculpt! Still won't make me want to run a 2D, but it looks great. I'm going to ahead and say it: I like these new versions much better than the originals. Even if it was still available, I would pick this mini over the original.

EDIT: fingers got all excited and I typed 2D2 instead of 2D.
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Post by: Wrangler on 26 July 2016, 11:09:13
I'm more a 2K and 3K Shadow Hawk guy myself.  3K are refits of the older ones from what i read.  Pretty nice units, hope i can kick bash this baby into one of them.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 26 July 2016, 11:53:33
I'm more a 2K and 3K Shadow Hawk guy myself.  3K are refits of the older ones from what i read.  Pretty nice units, hope i can kick bash this baby into one of them.

You may not need to -- there was talk on the miniature threads that there's going to be both the 2H and 2K versions available, IIRC.
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Post by: ColBosch on 26 July 2016, 12:16:36
You may not need to -- there was talk on the miniature threads that there's going to be both the 2H and 2K versions available, IIRC.

That is correct, Speck has said a -2K is planned later.

I don't normally like intro-tech Shadowhawks...but that is a nice sculpt! Still won't make me want to run a 2D2, but it looks great. I'm going to ahead and say it: I like these new versions much better than the originals. Even if it was still available, I would pick this mini over the original.

Now that I've seen the Classic sculpt of the Shad, I removed that particular piece from my reference collection and will just buy them from IWM. It really does look better than the original, with better lines, appropriately-scaled weapons, and more surface detail. I look forward to the rest!
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Post by: mitchberthelson on 26 July 2016, 14:52:49
You may not need to -- there was talk on the miniature threads that there's going to be both the 2H and 2K versions available, IIRC.

Cool, and they don't need to make a 2D2. Armorcast has that covered since they already make explosions that fit nicely on hex bases. :)
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Post by: E. Icaza on 26 July 2016, 15:15:36
Cool, and they don't need to make a 2D2. Armorcast has that covered since they already make explosions that fit nicely on hex bases. :)

LOL.

I've never used the 2D2, although I once printed out the sheet for a 2D by accident, when I was going for a 2H.  I didn't bother looking at the sheet until the time to mark off damage came up and then I was, "Uh-Oh."

And that is the only time that I've ever used an SHD-2D
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Post by: mitchberthelson on 26 July 2016, 17:53:22
LOL.

I've never used the 2D2, although I once printed out the sheet for a 2D by accident, when I was going for a 2H.  I didn't bother looking at the sheet until the time to mark off damage came up and then I was, "Uh-Oh."

And that is the only time that I've ever used an SHD-2D

Yeah....I should have said the 2D, which is even worse than the 2D2. I forgot that the 2D2 actually has six and a half tons of armor and the suicide device....I mean SRM ammo bin....is one ton smaller. Still a suicide machine, just one that tries a bit harder not to be.

2D is quite possibly the champion of "death box" Mech design.
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Post by: Knightmare on 26 July 2016, 18:03:18
I'm ready for a trip to Butte Hold, are you?
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Post by: Cache on 26 July 2016, 18:53:21
I'm ready for a trip to Butte Hold, are you?
Even better, Butte Hold plus the GDL trilogy.

http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/products_new.php
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Post by: Scotty on 26 July 2016, 19:18:43
Dang, looks like the second two books haven't been added to DTRPG yet.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 26 July 2016, 21:57:04
Yeah....I should have said the 2D, which is even worse than the 2D2. I forgot that the 2D2 actually has six and a half tons of armor and the suicide device....I mean SRM ammo bin....is one ton smaller. Still a suicide machine, just one that tries a bit harder not to be.

2D is quite possibly the champion of "death box" Mech design.

Really, its my fault. I didn't check what I was typing and ended up with 2D2 instead of 2D. So, you can blame me!

Oh, and GDL books coming back out? Yay! Wooo!
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Post by: ColBosch on 26 July 2016, 22:04:37
Really, its my fault. I didn't check what I was typing and ended up with 2D2 instead of 2D. So, you can blame me!

Oh, and GDL books coming back out? Yay! Wooo!

As epubs.
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Post by: RotS fan on 27 July 2016, 07:04:02
As epubs.
even better  [drool]
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 July 2016, 07:17:09
I hope we get TRO: Golden Century out this year.  I suspect alot of the NuSeen Mechs will be in it, with other units we haven seen before in there.  Like early WarShips for the Clans, Properly Mechs from Era Digest Golden Century, interstellar players 2 (Wolverine mechs, since they were still used after Clan was gone) and hopefully never seen ones.

One can hope.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 27 July 2016, 07:46:02
Haha, Butte Hold.

...Oh dear.
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Post by: klarg1 on 27 July 2016, 07:59:45
I hope we get TRO: Golden Century out this year.  I suspect alot of the NuSeen Mechs will be in it, with other units we haven seen before in there.  Like early WarShips for the Clans, Properly Mechs from Era Digest Golden Century, interstellar players 2 (Wolverine mechs, since they were still used after Clan was gone) and hopefully never seen ones.

One can hope.

NuSeen versions of the IIC 'mechs would be pretty awesome.

Although, from my perspective, it's just as well that we may have to wait a little. My wallet will be hurting from Gencon as it is. (Shadowhawk minis, maybe campaign ops, maybe a combat manual, etc.)
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 July 2016, 08:17:54
Wow, i totally missed that.  Just finish skimming through it. 

I LOVE IT, seriously do.  Its great book. I wish there were more hooks for rpg and regular campaigns in it.

I'm surprised there isn't any animals or stuff like that or something replacing them.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 27 July 2016, 08:45:34
NuSeen versions of the IIC 'mechs would be pretty awesome.

Although, from my perspective, it's just as well that we may have to wait a little. My wallet will be hurting from Gencon as it is. (Shadowhawk minis, maybe campaign ops, maybe a combat manual, etc.)

IT would be neat to see. There were some mechs and other units listed that I don't think have a records or made it into a TRO.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 29 July 2016, 06:35:46
I've not had the chance to pick up TtS: Butte Hold yet, but can someone who has a copy confirm if it talks about Raider's Roost? I was under the impression that Raider's Roost was located on Tortuga Prime, from Operational Turning Points: Tortuga and the entry on Tortuga in Masters & Minions, and I'm intrigued if there are two locations with the same name in pirate states across the Sphere from each other.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 29 July 2016, 06:42:47
Raider's Roost is in there.
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Post by: VhenRa on 29 July 2016, 07:28:43
Yeah. That was my reaction too.

"Wait, isn't Raider's Roost the capital of Tortuga Prime?"
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Post by: Wrangler on 29 July 2016, 11:41:40
Yeah. That was my reaction too.

"Wait, isn't Raider's Roost the capital of Tortuga Prime?"
Well, They ARE pirates.  They properly stole the entire city from one another over the years.  I keep picturing Simpson's episode their moving the entire town when trash problem got out hand.  They simply put entire town in series of Dropships.   :D
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Post by: Wrangler on 29 July 2016, 11:54:50
Yeah. That was my reaction too.

"Wait, isn't Raider's Roost the capital of Tortuga Prime?"
Well, They ARE pirates.  They properly stole the entire city from one another over the years.  I keep picturing Simpson's episode their moving the entire town when trash problem got out hand.  They simply put entire town in series of Dropships.   :D
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 29 July 2016, 19:40:06
Why not put it in a giant warship LAM thing (sorry couldn't resist).
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Post by: Kazashi on 30 July 2016, 08:05:17
Well, They ARE pirates.  They properly stole the entire city from one another over the years.  I keep picturing Simpson's episode their moving the entire town when trash problem got out hand.  They simply put entire town in series of Dropships.   :D

You stole your own post to prove a point? ;)

I finally caught up with all the TtS releases, and I'm really enjoying this series. While I don't like picking favourites, because I pretty well enjoy all the contributions from all the writers, there's just a little something extra about cray's writings that appeals to the space cadet in me (IIRC he also wrote the rules for generating planetary systems, which also gives me the warm feels).
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Post by: RotS fan on 30 July 2016, 08:49:07
http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2016/07/29/catalyst-at-gen-con-2016/

Here's the list of what will be available at gencon. Adrian, will we get BoI epub around gencon?
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Post by: I am Belch II on 30 July 2016, 09:07:26
http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2016/07/29/catalyst-at-gen-con-2016/

Here's the list of what will be available at gencon. Adrian, will we get BoI epub around gencon?

Looks like a good list. Hope there is a surprise or two on this list.
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Post by: Scotty on 30 July 2016, 09:13:03
Looks like a good list. Hope there is a surprise or two on this list.

Miscellaneous has a Warhammer picture in it, for some reason.
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Post by: Empyrus on 30 July 2016, 09:16:16
Whoah, that full Succession Wars picture! Very nice!
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Post by: Empyrus on 30 July 2016, 09:18:27
Miscellaneous has a Warhammer picture in it, for some reason.

URL says "lapelpin". So it is a Warhammer pin.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 30 July 2016, 09:31:04
Such a pretty looking Thud too
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Post by: Wrangler on 30 July 2016, 11:15:31
Questions: The new Legends, who is additional writer on the old novels, Ian Douglas?  Are the old books being given additional stuff to them?
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Post by: cavingjan on 30 July 2016, 11:18:54
Will the BC Anthology be released as an epub later?
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Post by: Cubby on 30 July 2016, 11:39:44
Questions: The new Legends, who is additional writer on the old novels, Ian Douglas?  Are the old books being given additional stuff to them?

No. Ian Douglas is a pen name under which Bill Keith wrote other, non-BT work.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 30 July 2016, 12:31:29
Looks like a good list. Hope there is a surprise or two on this list.

Probably not. CGL has really stepped forward with being more open about the line. One of the consequences is you lose surprises.

I am having the same issue with the great British bake off. My wife is watching it on Pbs. But because I read the guardian I have known the results since September.
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Post by: ColBosch on 30 July 2016, 14:45:52
Not too thrilled with novels being GenCon only, even when it's reprints of material from BattleCorps. Or maybe especially when it's BC reprints, because I suspect that it'd be more expensive to start up a subscription and buy the back stories...
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Post by: Scotty on 30 July 2016, 14:50:27
Not too thrilled with novels being GenCon only, even when it's reprints of material from BattleCorps. Or maybe especially when it's BC reprints, because I suspect that it'd be more expensive to start up a subscription and buy the back stories...

Well it does say "currently".  Which certainly isn't proof that it will come out eventually, but Embers of War was (technically) a Con Exclusive last year.
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Post by: ColBosch on 30 July 2016, 14:54:46
Well it does say "currently".  Which certainly isn't proof that it will come out eventually, but Embers of War was (technically) a Con Exclusive last year.

*nods* Understood.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 31 July 2016, 14:31:53
Adrian, will we get BoI epub around gencon?
i believe so, but not my wheelhouse so not 100% certain.

Looks like a good list. Hope there is a surprise or two on this list.
No surprises. That's what there is. We may or may not have some announcements for other/new lines at GenCon, but not BattleTech.

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Post by: bobthecoward on 31 July 2016, 15:41:27
i believe so, but not my wheelhouse so not 100% certain.
No surprises. That's what there is. We may or may not have some announcements for other/new lines at GenCon, but not BattleTech.


That make sense. CGL has put out a coming releases of a fee sourcebooks, XTRO, and combat manuals. Fulfilling that probably takes  us through to next gencon?
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Post by: Wrangler on 31 July 2016, 17:29:47
XTROs almost over right?  There Primitives V and i think that's it.  Unless there a second XTRO
Succession War book coming?
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Post by: ColBosch on 31 July 2016, 18:39:29
XTROs almost over right?  There Primitives V and i think that's it.  Unless there a second XTRO
Succession War book coming?

As far as we know. The nice thing about the XTRO series is that new ones could always be created later.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 31 July 2016, 19:46:53
XTROs almost over right?  There Primitives V and i think that's it.  Unless there a second XTRO
Succession War book coming?

There are 4 TRO products on coming releases. But I have been calling irregulartech and golden century ad xtro because I don't know how big they will be.
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Post by: Flaresnake on 31 July 2016, 22:40:37
There are 4 TRO products on coming releases. But I have been calling irregulartech and golden century ad xtro because I don't know how big they will be.

Does anyone know when those are coming out?
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Post by: JadedFalcon on 31 July 2016, 22:43:23
Does anyone know when those are coming out?

Still in development: http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53485.msg1238239#msg1238239 (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53485.msg1238239#msg1238239)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 01 August 2016, 06:06:27
Like all Battletech products never soon enough.
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Post by: Wrangler on 01 August 2016, 06:13:46
I hope something else will appear in the coming attractions page.  Not that i don't want stuff there loss priority, it just like a peek over the horizon.  Most of the mini-pdfs (except for Touring the Stars) has stalled due to i suspect (i suspect) man power issues sadly.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 01 August 2016, 06:26:46
I hope something else will appear in the coming attractions page.  Not that i don't want stuff there loss priority, it just like a peek over the horizon.  Most of the mini-pdfs (except for Touring the Stars) has stalled due to i suspect (i suspect) man power issues sadly.

That's too bad, I really like the XTROs. Anytime one comes out, it's a buy on sight for me.
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Post by: Atlas3060 on 05 August 2016, 15:37:29
http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/148026453951/legends-tuesday

Just the fact they put the new looking Locust and Maurader on covers to resemble old covers just brings a happy tear in my eyes.
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Post by: Flaresnake on 05 August 2016, 19:25:43
Like all Battletech products never soon enough.

you said it dude
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Post by: bobthecoward on 08 August 2016, 09:46:25
I see that classics may come out as both plastics and iron wind metals. I normally avoid miniatures because I know nothing about it. What goes into making a decision to purchase plastic or metal?
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Post by: Fat Guy on 08 August 2016, 10:32:52
Plastic is cheaper and single piece. No assembly, and no breakage if knocked over or dropped.

Multi piece metal sculpts allow more posing options, but are more expensive and prone to breaking.

So what do you want to use them for? Awesome display pieces: metal.  Game the hell out of them: plastic.
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Post by: Psycho on 08 August 2016, 10:36:32
I see that classics may come out as both plastics and iron wind metals. I normally avoid miniatures because I know nothing about it. What goes into making a decision to purchase plastic or metal?

What you like.

A great deal will depend on what CGL chooses to do. The limited run of plastic Lokis and Thors were priced at $18/pair, while the lance packs retail at $20 for four minis plus AS cards. Personally, I wouldn't trade metals for the plastic used in the box set and lance packs. It's too soft and frays when filed or sanded, making it much harder to achieve a really clean look. To others, details like obvious mold lines don't matter, so the price point is a big draw for the lances. I suspect that the classics will come in higher on the price scale, hopefully for better material and more parts. Plastic does make multi-part minis easier to assemble, due to the much lower weight. Still, some people prefer having a heftier mini on the table that won't get blown or knocked over as easily while others like a lighter weight because they're trying to carry around 60+ minis at a time. In short: lots of variables, most of which come down to personal preference.
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Post by: Scotty on 08 August 2016, 13:26:16
Plastic doesn't mean single piece, both the Battlemaster and the Mad Cat in the intro box set were multiple pieces.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 08 August 2016, 14:37:46
The plastic mech that were specials in the Box Sets were really nice, and could be painted up nice, and you wouldn't know the difference.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 08 August 2016, 14:53:43
1. Depends on what era you play in. For 3025 and early Clan Invasion plastics are roughly the same quality but A LOT cheaper. The intro box runs around $50 and gets you 24 standard plastic minis and two higher quality minis.

2. Depends on budget. Again, plastic minis are your best bet. Multiple intro boxes and a full set (of 8 ) Lance packs will get you a regiment of minis for what a battalion or less of metal.

3. Preference. There are 3 camps on this. Metal only, plastic only, or don't care so long as its a mini (I fall into this last one as I like both).

Now plastics are cheap, much easier to kitbash, and cheaper. As I said the quality is the same. I have a metal and plastic Zeus and if they were painted up it would be very difficult to tell them apart. I personally like the feel of a good metal mini better, but I like working with the plastic more. As for flash and other annoyances.. a good blade can handle most of what you would use sandpaper on. If you have ever worked on a model car or airplane you've probably learned several tricks.

The downside to the plastics though is the plastic. Its not a hard plastic like model airplanes or cars so it can be more difficult to work with depends on what you are trying to do and just like metal there might be defects with them. Also, the plastic when heated up is very easy to mess up, but that also works in your favor if you are trying to kitbash a plastic mini. There is a thread somewhere on here where someone turned a plastic Hunchback 4G into a swayback. Don't remember the model, 4P I think or whichever had the medium lasers (my memory is a bit fuzzy on the exact model).

The biggest pro for metal is the selection and there are no plastic vehicles or aerospace units. As for painting.. You can do it yourself, find a friend to do it, or maybe commission one of the CSO artists (*note to newbies* do so privately as actively soliciting that on the forums is a no no)
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Post by: klarg1 on 10 August 2016, 09:23:47
Plastic is cheaper and single piece. No assembly, and no breakage if knocked over or dropped.

Multi piece metal sculpts allow more posing options, but are more expensive and prone to breaking.

So what do you want to use them for? Awesome display pieces: metal.  Game the hell out of them: plastic.

Why on Earth would you expect plastics to be intrinsically single piece? I can't imagine any tooling that will produce a single piece Marauder mold.

I share your joy for having both on the market, but I'm sad to have to wait for all the plastic hurdles to be cleared before I can get my hands on the metal version.
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 August 2016, 09:38:43
Depends on the quality of the end product i think. I've seen some plastic not survive for many years of normal use, verse some solid ones.  I prefer metal over plastic, but not all plastic is bad.
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Post by: RoundTop on 10 August 2016, 15:11:40
It is worth noting that there have been 2 releases of the Introductory Box Set with minis.

The first print run (24 minis + 2 Loki's), is a much lower quality of plastic than the later runs (24 + Mad Cat + Battlemaster).  Not just the QA, but the plastic quality is much harder in the later sets.

The multi-piece ones use hard plastic similar to Games Workshop plastics.

All that said: I have one of the first run boxes, and painted it is hard to tell the difference (if you do a decent paint job). Metal will hold crisp details really well, and can take extreme modifications well, but it is harder to work with for modding.

Side note: If you were at Gen Con, some of my minis were used in Alpha Strike Academy (The white/red and white/blue ones), and were from the first run boxes.
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Post by: Legatus on 10 August 2016, 17:06:25
Since I have seen no further information here and nobody has yet asked, any idea when the electronic version of Betrayal of Ideals will be released to the masses?
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Post by: RoundTop on 10 August 2016, 17:08:52
Since I have seen no further information here and nobody has yet asked, any idea when the electronic version of Betrayal of Ideas will be released to the masses?

Nobody on this board has access to that information. From Gen Con i can confirm it will be coming out in electronic format, but I don't know the timing, and none of the agents on these boards work for Catalyst outside the demo team, so you have as much information as we do on releases.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 10 August 2016, 17:10:56
Why on Earth would you expect plastics to be intrinsically single piece?

Because our 8 Lance Packs and 24 Starter box minis have all been singe piece - including some that were multi-piece in previous Starter Boxes.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 August 2016, 17:41:54
The Marauder might be tricky to do as a single piece but it IS doable. I have seen some really strange injection molds made so it isn't impossible.
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Post by: Cache on 10 August 2016, 17:44:37
The Marauder might be tricky to do as a single piece but it IS doable. I have seen some really strange injection molds made so it isn't impossible.
It's worth considering that a manufacturer can assemble the minis.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 August 2016, 18:52:56
At an increased cost. Besides, assembly on a mini is best left to the consumer.
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Post by: Cache on 10 August 2016, 19:28:46
Besides, assembly on a mini is best left to the consumer.
Not when a major selling point of the plastics is zero assembly.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 10 August 2016, 20:16:26
Then the mold would have to be made to do the piece as one unit and not multiple parts. An injection molding company generally does NOT do assembly. There are some items such as the Handihaler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXHHFmZ_DRI). The link is a how to use video but I couldn't find any other decent pics. I never worked on the machines that made this but it was the only product at the site that had to be assembled (I think, not 100% sure if was assembled at the plant). Every other multiple part product was assembled by whoever ordered it. The inhaler was created by two different molds I do remember that much in a clean room.

For something like the Marauder you can actually have a 3 part mold where one side is a solid piece and the other is broken up into multiple parts which would open X amount so the plastic item can be ejected.

For those who want to see more I found a video that goes over injection molding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUthHS3MTdA Neat to watch, but trust me.. It is a real ***** to stand on your feet for 12 hours running those machines.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 14 August 2016, 09:45:33
So a week past Gencon, what do you think our next product will be?

I am wondering if the other mini publications will start appearing soon.  Forgot to ask about them when I was at the con.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 14 August 2016, 10:16:09
Glad to know that I'm only 2 books behind now. The books that were released at Gencon but not in print for the rest of the world.
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Post by: Wrangler on 14 August 2016, 11:27:45
I'm curious what is going to be coming out.  I suspect properly another Touring the Stars, but i'm uncertain what were going to get as far big.

Given the releases, i think it will be a while until we get some big stuff until at least in the Fall.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 August 2016, 14:35:23
I suspect either Combat Manual Davion or 2nd Succession War, I will happily buy either one.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 19 August 2016, 08:03:33
I am going to be that guy....here's hoping they release a mini publication today :)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 20 August 2016, 15:26:39
Any sign of Campaign Ops in a general Dead-tree format yet?
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Post by: Bosefius on 20 August 2016, 15:55:37
Any sign of Campaign Ops in a general Dead-tree format yet?

They had a limited (rushed) supply at GenCon. The supply for the distribution network had not yet arrived so there is no release date.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: kurtl000 on 21 August 2016, 20:02:39
Is somebody gonna update coming releases? Pretty out of date, embers of war has been out for a while now. Could throw betrayal of ideals on there too.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Hammer on 23 August 2016, 14:09:16
Gonna be bold and ask...

Anything new coming soon and perhaps a hint what? (not expecting specifics)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 23 August 2016, 14:18:28
Let's just say it's title rhymes with...






...wait for it...






...orange.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Atlas3060 on 23 August 2016, 14:29:57
OMG TRO Doorhinge will be out!  ;D

I couldn't think of something rhyming with that word.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 23 August 2016, 14:40:19
OMG TRO Doorhinge will be out!  ;D

I couldn't think of something rhyming with that word.

Works as well as anything else?


Could be something for Blorenge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blorenge)? A Mountain in Wales?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Blorenge_from_Abergavenny%2C_Monmouthshire_-_geograph.org.uk_-_84043.jpg)

If nothing else, maybe a lost Planet?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 23 August 2016, 14:43:36
It's Glenmorange, the unit digest for Reed's Brew.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: sadlerbw on 23 August 2016, 14:50:25
Wait, I know this joke...ORANGE you glad I didn't say ilClan!...or something like that.

Honestly, I'd like to see a desktop-wallpaper-sized version of the CM: Davion cover I saw at GenCon! Or the poster images...those were also very tasty!
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Post by: ColonelCrow on 23 August 2016, 16:06:58
I don't know if this appropriate for this board topic or not (my apologies if it isn't), but according to an email I just got from DriveThruRPG, Loren L. Coleman's 2001 novel Patriots and Tyrants is now available as the latest addition to the BattleTech Legends line. I didn't see notice of that anywhere on the main site, so I thought I'd mention it here.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 23 August 2016, 16:54:18
I don't know if this appropriate for this board topic or not (my apologies if it isn't), but according to an email I just got from DriveThruRPG, Loren L. Coleman's 2001 novel Patriots and Tyrants is now available as the latest addition to the BattleTech Legends line. I didn't see notice of that anywhere on the main site, so I thought I'd mention it here.
Ya why would they mention anything about that here? Its like the ship is full steam ahead with nobody at the wheel.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Liam's Ghost on 23 August 2016, 17:04:29
Let's see, Orange in Albanian is Portokall. That rhyms with "Port of Call*". Ports of call are where warships go.

TRO 3057 revised revised is confirmed! It's confirmed guys!

*No, I don't speak Albanian. Don't ruin this for me.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 23 August 2016, 18:48:40
Let's just say it's title rhymes with...






...wait for it...






...orange.

A Time of War adventure set in a women's prison full of quirky inmates?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: beachhead1985 on 23 August 2016, 19:15:54
It's Glenmorange, the unit digest for Reed's Brew.

I ALWAYS KNEW THINGS RHYMED WITH ORANGE!

Well besides "gorge" and "Blorange".
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 23 August 2016, 19:17:08
Let's see, Orange in Albanian is Portokall. That rhyms with "Port of Call*". Ports of call are where warships go.

TRO 3057 revised revised is confirmed! It's confirmed guys!

*No, I don't speak Albanian. Don't ruin this for me.

A TRO3057RR would be great.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 23 August 2016, 19:38:28
No no no no no no. That would be TRO 3057 Revised Unabridged Upgrade.
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Post by: Atlas3060 on 23 August 2016, 21:47:56
A Time of War adventure set in a women's prison full of quirky inmates?
For the billionth time, everyone stop looking at my design notes for future pitches! GAH!  :D

Great now my all female Bandit Caste drama/comedy module idea is spoiled. Spoiled I say!

*Tosses out the script for "Prinz Eugen is the new Strana Mechty"*
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Post by: Feenix74 on 23 August 2016, 23:49:13
I told you that it was not going to work, I still think that your idea for Combustion Notice is much better idea.

"After fleeing a blown operation in Sarna and being kidnapped and beaten, Vance Munson finds himself on Solaris. He is tended to by his ex-girlfriend, Casey Sedgewick, but he has been abandoned by all his normal intelligence contacts and is under continuous surveillance with his personal assets frozen. Extraordinary efforts to reach his MIIO handler eventually yield only a grudging admission that someone powerful wants him "on ice" on Solaris. If he leaves Solaris, he will be hunted down and taken into custody. If he stays, he can remain relatively free. Consumed by the desire to find out who "combusted" him, and why, Munson is reluctantly drawn into working as an unlicensed private investigator and problem solver for ordinary citizens to fund his personal investigation into his situation as a blacklisted agent.

Munson invites his old friend Ash Williams to assist him, while Casey invites herself to join them. With the occasional assistance and sometimes hindrance of his mother, Christine, Munson battles an array of criminals such as mobsters, gang members, con artists, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, foreign wet-work operatives, drug traffickers, sex traffickers, arms traffickers, and war criminals. At the same time, Vance must follow the trail that leads him to the people responsible for his being "combused", and later finding out why.

 >:D
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Post by: VhenRa on 24 August 2016, 00:45:23
I assume someone is ex Free Skye?

Also, wheres the former Solaris Gladiator?
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 24 August 2016, 00:55:04
I assume someone is ex Free Skye?

She's fron the ARDC, but her Arc Royal accent was so bad they actress dropped it after the pilot.
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Post by: Feenix74 on 24 August 2016, 00:58:08
I assume someone is ex Free Skye?

Casey Sedgewick, the girlfriend.

Quote
Also, wheres the former Solaris Gladiator?

Ash Williams, I was thinking more Loki but Solaris Gladiator could work too.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 24 August 2016, 01:14:11
or the Gladiator could be Vance's hard luck brother. And where's Vance's mother in all of this?
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Post by: Feenix74 on 24 August 2016, 02:03:19
Munson invites his old friend Ash Williams to assist him, while Casey invites herself to join them. With the occasional assistance and sometimes hindrance of his mother, Christine, Munson battles an array of criminals such as mobsters, gang members, con artists, murderers, rapists, kidnappers, foreign wet-work operatives, drug traffickers, sex traffickers, arms traffickers, and war criminals. At the same time, Vance must follow the trail that leads him to the people responsible for his being "combused", and later finding out why.

 >:D
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Post by: Sharpnel on 24 August 2016, 04:33:48
I'm over 50 cut me some slack  :D
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Post by: Feenix74 on 24 August 2016, 05:24:14
Well then you should recognise Christine from when she was younger and a member of the Solaris PD then:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5a/91/b9/5a91b9f15a677f80e3a709ec143c731e.jpg)

She went by her maiden name of Cagney back then ;)
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Post by: solmanian on 24 August 2016, 12:05:44
*Tosses out the script for "Prinz Eugen is the new Strana Mechty"*
I imagining as a clan OZ sitcom based on the final hours on the Prinz Eugen. A cross between "24" and "Everybody loves Raymond", with the quirky Kerensky family standing in for the Barones. That seems like the sort of thing clanners would find amusing, and it has Kerenskys which practically guarantees an instant hit.
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Post by: Atlas3060 on 24 August 2016, 23:35:04
I imagining as a clan OZ sitcom based on the final hours on the Prinz Eugen. A cross between "24" and "Everybody loves Raymond"
My gods, how could they stand all that torture all on one screen.
Then there's the level of torture that 24's episodes bring up!  ;)
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Post by: Wrangler on 25 August 2016, 06:14:41
No Word from anywhere about anything pending?  :/
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Post by: Dmon on 25 August 2016, 06:25:03
Nope.. Seems really slow lately.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 August 2016, 07:39:02
To be fair, with Catalyst all but shutting down during the convention lead-up and fallout periods, that's not overly surprising.
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Post by: Sartris on 25 August 2016, 08:23:21
yeah late summer is usually the deadest time. i'm surprised to see anything besides con updates between mid july and early september.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 25 August 2016, 11:21:32
Is it just me or does it bother anybody else that the latest releases and coming releases pages are significantly out of date?
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Post by: Dmon on 25 August 2016, 12:29:36
Is it just me or does it bother anybody else that the latest releases and coming releases pages are significantly out of date?

Been bothering me for ages.

I assume who ever usually does it has been busy.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 25 August 2016, 13:02:25
Let's just say it's title rhymes with...
...wait for it...
...orange.

Battletech is the new Orange?
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 August 2016, 15:37:57
Is it just me or does it bother anybody else that the latest releases and coming releases pages are significantly out of date?

Unbelievable. We've gotten new products, we know more are on their way, and you're implying the sky is falling because a webpage hasn't been updated for a little bit. *goes and looks at the page* It doesn't even need updating. Sure, "Embers of War" is out and "Campaign Companion" has been renamed, but everything else is still in development. They're not going to announce new products until they clear out some on that page, and frankly it looks like about a year's worth of releases already.

So please, cool it with the wild conspiracy theories. They're unseemly and inappropriate.
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Post by: Duke on 25 August 2016, 18:20:48
Uh, I think he just means from an aesthetic/ocd standpoint. That it doesnt match up to the current releases.
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 August 2016, 18:50:21
Then that's just silly.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 25 August 2016, 18:55:04
Then that's just silly.
On second thought let's not go to battletech.com.  It is a silly place.
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 August 2016, 19:14:31
On second thought let's not go to battletech.com.  It is a silly place.

Too late.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 25 August 2016, 20:36:27
Unbelievable. We've gotten new products, we know more are on their way, and you're implying the sky is falling because a webpage hasn't been updated for a little bit. *goes and looks at the page* It doesn't even need updating. Sure, "Embers of War" is out and "Campaign Companion" has been renamed, but everything else is still in development. They're not going to announce new products until they clear out some on that page, and frankly it looks like about a year's worth of releases already.

So please, cool it with the wild conspiracy theories. They're unseemly and inappropriate.
I was referring to the way it looks.  It looks unprofessional.  Your reading wwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too much into it so take a deep breath..........
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Post by: SteelRaven on 25 August 2016, 20:42:34
Think it was already address more people follow CGLs FB, Tumblr and Twitter for updates. I believe those three channels are also easier to update but I'm not a webmaster.
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 August 2016, 21:02:56
I was referring to the way it looks.  It looks unprofessional.  Your reading wwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too much into it so take a deep breath..........

Apologies, I thought it was the usual "CGL just released some new products, BattleTech is doomed" thing. You can understand why I've gotten a bit gunshy lately.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 26 August 2016, 10:26:56
Well...Gencon Highlight...Classic Shadowhawk...But That's it. No real "next big thing" Another year to winter through and to make it possible for other game universes to advance further and leave Battletech a little bit more behind. :(

Hopes are on Harebrained Schemes. That's something to look forward too. 
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Post by: Daryk on 26 August 2016, 10:35:24
I don't think it's anywhere near that bleak.  The Touring the Stars series has plenty of promise (at least I'll keep buying them), and even though I don't play Alpha Strike, it seems that's getting plenty of love with the Combat Manuals.
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Post by: Dulahan on 26 August 2016, 10:56:55
Well...Gencon Highlight...Classic Shadowhawk...But That's it. No real "next big thing" Another year to winter through and to make it possible for other game universes to advance further and leave Battletech a little bit more behind. :(

Hopes are on Harebrained Schemes. That's something to look forward too.

And yet they released Campaign Ops.  A Combat Manual.

They said plastic nuSeens are still in the pipeline, just not sure when.

There's stuff there.  ilClan is still in the works, probably 2017. 

So yeah, not seeing the bleakness.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 26 August 2016, 11:24:14
It is disappointing that aside from the stuff Catalyst has released this year they haven't released anything.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 26 August 2016, 11:27:12
That's what I said. Another year (at least) till big things like IlClan or an Alpha Strike Box (if it will be one).

The page is not bleak, aff, but it should be a well filled A4, we only have A6 with some notes.

And I bet, IlClan has been finished for years, but as they have no Line Developer anymore, they don't want, or can't move forward.

Let#s hope for a good Alpha Strike Box in combination with the new PC game to expand the community again.
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Post by: Nastyogre on 26 August 2016, 11:28:35
It is disappointing that aside from the stuff Catalyst has released this year they haven't released anything.

I laughed and snorted and some of the hapless traveler I usually eat for lunch came out of my nose. 
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Post by: ActionButler on 26 August 2016, 11:32:34
No real "next big thing"


That depends on what you view as the 'next big thing', though.  I know that people are eagerly awaiting ilClan, and I certainly don't blame them, but I can't wait for whatever the next Combat Manual is. 
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Post by: Scotty on 26 August 2016, 11:45:17
Davion.  Hopefully near Christmas. :)
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Post by: bobthecoward on 26 August 2016, 13:01:36
Don't forget second succession war!
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Post by: ActionButler on 26 August 2016, 13:11:42
Davion.  Hopefully near Christmas. :)

*excited arm waving*
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Post by: Pat Payne on 26 August 2016, 13:24:37
Yeah, it just really is too bad that Catalyst was too lazy to release anything at all this year.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go and consult Combat Manual: Mercenaries and Combat Manual: Kurita and Campaign Operations to prepare for an epic First Succession War campaign that will see fighting on Brownsville, Inglesmond and Lone Star. Hmmm... maybe Interstellar Operations might help in that...
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Post by: kurtl000 on 26 August 2016, 15:34:50
This is hilarious look what u started Bosch lol
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Post by: ColBosch on 26 August 2016, 16:02:57
It is disappointing that aside from the stuff Catalyst has released this year they haven't released anything.

Or Iron Wind Metals, the lazy pikers.

Look, I've made some complaints about what I perceive to be the direction of products as of late, but I can't deny that stuff is coming out. Also, said stuff is really good.

This is hilarious look what u started Bosch lol

Oh no no no, don't pin this one on me. ;D
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 August 2016, 06:36:11
Finally got a copy of the Embers of War, so far it's awesome novel!!!

I hope more of the new fiction novels will come out for real in the near future. It's REALLY good book so far, I've not finished yet.
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Post by: klarg1 on 27 August 2016, 09:14:17
That's what I said. Another year (at least) till big things like IlClan or an Alpha Strike Box (if it will be one).

The page is not bleak, aff, but it should be a well filled A4, we only have A6 with some notes.

And I bet, IlClan has been finished for years, but as they have no Line Developer anymore, they don't want, or can't move forward.

Let#s hope for a good Alpha Strike Box in combination with the new PC game to expand the community again.

Interstellar Operations wasn't a big thing?  ???

By my count, there have been two big hard-cover releases this year, plus combat manuals, PDFs and more.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 27 August 2016, 09:19:53
There has been some great stuff comming out. Just slower now.
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Post by: ColBosch on 27 August 2016, 14:04:36
There has been some great stuff comming out. Just slower now.

Slower than the past two years?
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Post by: SteelRaven on 27 August 2016, 18:34:03
After the Classics, Interstellar Operations, Campaign Operation, First Succession War book, Combat Manual Mercenarie and Kurita, I'm a happy camper.

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Post by: I am Belch II on 27 August 2016, 19:05:06
It just seemed like 1 book every month for a while in there. I like the slower pace because the quality of the writing and story has increased 10 fold.
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 August 2016, 21:48:38
I think what maybe whats seems missing is the of lack of surprises perhaps.  Most of the known big books we knew of that been in the making for years has finally been published.

Aside from two (dare i say mini) TROs Golden Century, Irregular Tech books, and last of the XTROs Primitives V and possibly a Succession Wars II (?) i don't think we have anything but small products coming out now except for the Combat Manuals, and the major source book thats to push us forward in the time line official. 

I'm not as excited about the smaller stuff, not that i don't want them but their not as earth shattering.  TRO:3150 gave us teasers of what is possibly to come. Aside from that were kinda on hold with some fleshing out of the past. 

Hopefully something will be teased out that on the horizon we haven't heard before thats definitely coming.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 27 August 2016, 21:51:45
I think what maybe whats seems missing is the of lack of surprises perhaps.

Don't say that! That's when TPTB kill a faction and say 'Surprise!'
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Post by: ColBosch on 27 August 2016, 22:10:15
The flip side is that people complained when we didn't know about everything coming in advance. Can't please everyone!
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Post by: mrbooth on 28 August 2016, 07:55:46
Wondering if there is any update on the record sheet books both tro prototypes and 3150 have been out for some time and still no record sheets to go with them.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 28 August 2016, 08:42:16
I would like to see more RS books, at least a PDF version, actual paperbook would be to large and cost to much.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 28 August 2016, 11:44:11
The production of new publications is very good.  O0

(A little) however, I would like to see the story going on ...
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2016, 12:11:38
How many times do I have to type "Ray says ilClan in 2017" before people actually notice.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 28 August 2016, 12:46:11
How many times do I have to type "Ray says ilClan in 2017" before people actually notice.

People have probably noticed, as we've had IlClan in 20xx previously and still no book they're probably not overly convinced.
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Post by: SteveRestless on 28 August 2016, 12:51:39
How many times do I have to type "Ray says ilClan in 2017" before people actually notice.

Which doesn't preclude something filling the space between FM3145 and ilClan between now and some unstated time in 2017. I still hold out hope that the milestones project will be un-hiatus-ed.

People have probably noticed, as we've had IlClan in 20xx previously and still no book they're probably not overly convinced.

I'm... I actually believe they mean it when they say "ilClan 2017", and I don't think we've ever had a date of any kind attached to it before, just a release schedule and convention features that made it seem obvious something was coming (and then didn't).

It's just that "2017" is (I imagine intentionally) vague, and it could mean "Happy new year!" and the PDF drops at the same time the ball does, or it could mean we unwrap it for "Merry Christmas 2017!" so there's potentially a lot of room between here and there. and It's possible for the plot to move forward between here and there.
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2016, 13:06:14
People have probably noticed, as we've had IlClan in 20xx previously and still no book they're probably not overly convinced.

As Steve mentioned, no we haven't.
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Post by: ColBosch on 28 August 2016, 13:46:14
As Steve mentioned, no we haven't.

I do believe we got a "next year" from someone last year. BUT...it doesn't matter. It really doesn't. Delays occur. CGL feels that it's better to concentrate on historical products and Alpha Strike supplements for the moment, and despite some grumpiness from myself and others, they're probably not wrong. They have to focus on being a business and making money, and if that means riding the computer game's coattails and taking advantage of the success of AS for a bit, then that's their best course of action.

And if they're BSing us, then we'll spend our money elsewhere. I'm not so tied to BattleTech that I can't purchase and play other games, and the competition is strong right now.
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 28 August 2016, 14:09:17
I want to offer this amusing anecdote for the sake of perspective.

In 1992, Palladium Books published Rifts: The Mechanoids as the second sourcebook of their rifts product line. In the introduction, it indicated that a followup titled Mechanoid Space was tentatively planned for release in 1994.

In... I think... 2007, Mechanoids Space was put on the Palladium website as available for pre-order. As of today, it is still available for pre-order.

In my opinion, Catalyst does pretty great.
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Post by: ColBosch on 28 August 2016, 14:26:42
There is that point, too. It's not like CGL has already taken our money for IlClan. (If you have preordered it from somewhere, get your money back!) We can be disappointed, but it's not like CGL has some sort of moral or legal imperative to release the book exactly on-time, or at all.
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Post by: SteveRestless on 28 August 2016, 14:37:11
I do believe we got a "next year" from someone last year.

Nah, I'd have been all over that like a dog on unguarded bacon. If they did it, they did it somewhere I wasn't privy to, watching for news that the plot will move forward is about all that I've got left in Battletech.

and the competition is strong right now.

Man, if there's another turn-based high detail wargame with giant robots, I would love to hear about that.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 28 August 2016, 14:50:18
I do believe we got a "next year" from someone last year. BUT...it doesn't matter. It really doesn't. Delays occur. CGL feels that it's better to concentrate on historical products and Alpha Strike supplements for the moment, and despite some grumpiness from myself and others, they're probably not wrong. They have to focus on being a business and making money, and if that means riding the computer game's coattails and taking advantage of the success of AS for a bit, then that's their best course of action.

And if they're BSing us, then we'll spend our money elsewhere. I'm not so tied to BattleTech that I can't purchase and play other games, and the competition is strong right now.

This reminds me of something

What games are you producing more first party content than cgl? Paizo and Hasbro obviously but it feels like it drops off real quickly after that.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 August 2016, 16:11:42
I don't get it. I see a lot of people complaining that it's either ilClan or bust. We have so much time to cover with novels why are people so anxious to jump ahead some more with another sourcebook?  We've already jumped way too far ahead without novels to flesh out the details and fill in the blanks in my opinion.
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2016, 16:38:17
There is an entire series of 20+ novels that cover the Dark Age clear up to 3139.

Largely speaking, I prefer sourcebook fiction to novel fiction, anyway.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 28 August 2016, 16:47:19
I don't get it. I see a lot of people complaining that it's either ilClan or bust. We have so much time to cover with novels why are people so anxious to jump ahead some more with another sourcebook?  We've already jumped way too far ahead without novels to flesh out the details and fill in the blanks in my opinion.

Leaving aside the Dark Age novels for the moment, let's say we put moving the storyline forward until we have novels covering the Jihad, the interbellum, and events after Bonfire of Worlds.  How many novels is that?  We've had one new novel in the last year (plus two volumes of Battlecorps reprints), so how many novels can we expect in an average year?

Can we reasonably expect the ongoing storyline to be put on hold while fiction publishing gets back up to speed and catches up with 3145?
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Post by: SteveRestless on 28 August 2016, 17:28:11
I don't get it. I see a lot of people complaining that it's either ilClan or bust. We have so much time to cover with novels why are people so anxious to jump ahead some more with another sourcebook?  We've already jumped way too far ahead without novels to flesh out the details and fill in the blanks in my opinion.

Because FM3145 left us on a cliffhanger, a number of factions fates hang in the balance and it's been years with nothing to resolve the tension. Some people are certain that the Federated Suns woes are just the setup for a heroic resurgence. Others worry that their woes are the prelude to their destruction the way it was with the Cats. Who will be the ilClan? will it be one of the IS clans? will it be a unified homeworld force? There's a lot of questions in the air, and we've gone years with no answers. Hell, to get the closest thing to them, we had to buy a recycled TRO that was full of units many of us already had, and we still don't have record sheets for the scant new content in the book.

We could pick up with novels from Bonfire and move forward from that, and I'd be happy with that. It doesn't HAVE to be a sourcebook. We could see the Milestones revived, and move forward through those. We could see them go straight to ilClan with no preamble, and I'd be happy with that. But, I'm accustomed to the battletech universe as a LIVING, evolving, forward-moving setting. Due to the messed up nature of retcons around here, I can't muster any enthusiasm for historical products, since what we get in a historical book tends to remain off-limits in later eras.

Can we reasonably expect the ongoing storyline to be put on hold while fiction publishing gets back up to speed and catches up with 3145?

I can't imagine that being a smart course to take, and this is speaking as someone who prefers the personal feel you get from novel fiction driving the storyline.
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Post by: nckestrel on 28 August 2016, 17:29:02
I don't get it. I see a lot of people complaining that it's either ilClan or bust. We have so much time to cover with novels why are people so anxious to jump ahead some more with another sourcebook?  We've already jumped way too far ahead without novels to flesh out the details and fill in the blanks in my opinion.

I want novels, and I want the BattleTech story to move forward.  The story can move forward in novels or not, but novels covering old ground does nothing for my desire to move the story forward.
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2016, 17:31:28
My latest pet theory on ilClan is that there won't actually be an ilClan, and the book will be about the various Clans' trials and ultimate failure to achieve the ultimate goal.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 August 2016, 17:35:03
Speaking of which, I wonder if the new Wolverine novel will take as long as Embers of War did to be able to download.  It's obviously done......
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Post by: SteveRestless on 28 August 2016, 17:40:30
My latest pet theory on ilClan is that there won't actually be an ilClan, and the book will be about the various Clans' trials and ultimate failure to achieve the ultimate goal.

I think, more than anything, this is the chief reason I want to see that sourcebook come out. The endless Epileptic Trees (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EpilepticTrees) theories about what the book will actually be about. Don't so much care if it's the wolves, falcons, bears, homeclans, fidelis-reborn-as-jaguars-again, not-named trolling everyone, Snord's ilClan, or Aleksandr Kerensky's rotting zombie rising from the grave to punish his naughty grandchildren, so long as we can put an end to the wild speculation.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 28 August 2016, 19:27:53
Well we all know that after the 4th SW we won't see a major house get killed off no matter how many people whine about it. Clans are ok to kill, just not the major players  :P

At any rate how much longer can CGL or anyone keep the story moving forward before it all becomes the same rehash over and over again.

1sr SW the Snakes almost kill the Suns, 4th SW the Suns burn up the Capellans, Jihad/FCCW burns up nearly everyone, Hegemony reborn, etc. I'm waiting for the periphery to challenge the IS powers again, now that would be interesting if they had hidden away huge numbers of troops same as Amaris did during that crisis.

ilClan should be interesting. Who knows, maybe one of the annihilated clans will make a comeback and claim Terra as a big *&$% you to the other clans. Now that would be very entertaining. Or perhaps Clan Wold in-exile (are they still around in 3150??) will be the ones to take Terra. Another irony.
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Post by: Iracundus on 28 August 2016, 19:50:08
Maybe multiple or all Clans claim to be ilClan...Ironic since that would basically be a replay of the Sucession Wars all over again, just substituting the title of ilKhan for First Lord.  Of course, the existing House Lords would not care who calls themselves ilKhan at all.  The title then becomes as meaningless as First Lord. 

Part of the whole theme is that humanity repeats its errors.  The details may be different but the essentials are the same.  I don't mind if things settle down into a low level constant raiding situation like the 3rd SW. 
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Post by: Knightmare on 28 August 2016, 19:51:50
Speculating is so much more fun than actually knowing.

Because let's face it, the reality will never satisfy what your individual imagination can conjure.

#iknowhowilcanendsanditwillblowyourcollectivemindslikewhoa.
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Post by: Iracundus on 28 August 2016, 20:03:10
I think expectations have to be tailored.  We don't need to have nations appearing and being destroyed within the space of a character's lifetime repeatedly.  I have always viewed the situation as like 1984.  None of the major powers has enough to truly decisively knock out another.  The closest was perhaps the 4th SW with the Confederation on the ropes, or maybe the Federated Suns during the 1st SW (and possibly now the Suns post-Palmyra).  I don't see the need to completely overturn the status quo paradigm each time.  Things can change (like what House is on top) without changing the paradigm (i.e. no major factions have to be totally destroyed). 
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Post by: Scotty on 28 August 2016, 20:29:47
Speculating is so much more fun than actually knowing.

Because let's face it, the reality will never satisfy what your individual imagination can conjure.

#iknowhowilcanendsanditwillblowyourcollectivemindslikewhoa.

New product ilCan confirmed!
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Post by: Weirdo on 28 August 2016, 21:21:20
You mean they lied to me?!? >:(

They told me that it was gonna be called Porcelain-Lamellor Throne IIC!
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Post by: SteveRestless on 28 August 2016, 21:23:23
Speculating is so much more fun than actually knowing.

I disagree, at least in context. I don't buy sourcebooks and novels to not know something. And speculation gets old. and weird. It's been a long time since I've seen anyone posit a theory about the ilClan based on any actual foreshadowing, and not just some crazy "well no one has suggested this yet" guesses.

#iknowhowilcanendsanditwillblowyourcollectivemindslikewhoa.

Isn't that a bit contradictory? If the contents are that impressive, isn't there the distinct possibility that it'll be more satisfying than a bunch of wild-mass-guessing because all the factual paths have been trod barren already?
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Post by: bobthecoward on 28 August 2016, 21:29:00
I don't think people were looking forward to era report 3145. There were a lot of skeptics. The clamoring for ilclan is a testament to how good those books are.
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Post by: Iracundus on 28 August 2016, 22:04:10
I don't think people were looking forward to era report 3145. There were a lot of skeptics. The clamoring for ilclan is a testament to how good those books are.

Or because people want to bury the Republic
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Post by: Knightmare on 28 August 2016, 22:10:59
::sigh:: 

Never mind.
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Post by: ColBosch on 29 August 2016, 01:25:17
It was a good try. O0
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Post by: SCC on 29 August 2016, 06:16:21
I think what maybe whats seems missing is the of lack of surprises perhaps.  Most of the known big books we knew of that been in the making for years has finally been published.

Aside from two (dare i say mini) TROs Golden Century, Irregular Tech books, and last of the XTROs Primitives V and possibly a Succession Wars II (?) i don't think we have anything but small products coming out now except for the Combat Manuals, and the major source book thats to push us forward in the time line official. 

I'm not as excited about the smaller stuff, not that i don't want them but their not as earth shattering.  TRO:3150 gave us teasers of what is possibly to come. Aside from that were kinda on hold with some fleshing out of the past. 

Hopefully something will be teased out that on the horizon we haven't heard before thats definitely coming.
I think the thing is that we're not getting anything that advances the plot, and a lot of what you mention there is filling in back log of stuff that has to some extent been covered.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 29 August 2016, 06:34:04
I've been really enjoying seeing everything get filled in. The Historicals line has produced superb books, and First Succession War is glorious in it's own brutally depressing manner. I sometimes get the feeling that if the plot isn't advancing, some people will complain that it's ruining the game; if it is advancing, some people will complain it's not advancing fast enough; if it's advancing quickly, some people will complain that it's advancing too fast and their favourite factions aren't getting enough attention; if it's advancing steadily, some people will complain that their factions aren't getting enough attention and it's ruining the game for them... and so on, ad nauseum. The game will advance when the dev's and writers are ready to advance it, and based on the quality of the products that are being released until then, we're not being left wanting for really good product and content. It may not be exactly what every individual person wants, but the only reasonable, sane way to deal with that, is to adjust those individual expectations - everything else will lead to rage, depression, anxiety and the generation of a toxic atmosphere that achieves nothing other than spreading misery around.

Personally, I keep busy updating things on Sarna, but to each their own...
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Post by: wantec on 29 August 2016, 07:37:20
#iknowhowilclanendsanditwillblowyourcollectivemindslikewhoa.
This is so true.

That said,
Speculating is so much more fun than actually knowing.

Because let's face it, the reality will never satisfy what your individual imagination can conjure.
When you speculate, you can let your mind go free to think of every possible wild idea and imagine how it comes forth. Once you know how something turns out it can take away some of the mystery and limit the speculation, even if you wanted to try to imagine other ways it might happen.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 29 August 2016, 07:39:35
Speculating is so much more fun than actually knowing.

Because let's face it, the reality will never satisfy what your individual imagination can conjure.

#iknowhowilcanendsanditwillblowyourcollectivemindslikewhoa.

You speak the truth.  But, I am not tied to any one faction, so whatever happens its going to have epic struggles between warring nations using giant stompy robots and spaceships.  Its going to be glorious! 
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Post by: SteveUK on 29 August 2016, 08:04:36
I don't normally add anything to threads like this, but it seems to me CGL just can't win, release lots of really good new stuff, people complain it's not the right stuff, don't release stuff and people are bemoaning the end of Battletech as we know it.  Let's try to stay positive people, please ;)
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Post by: mbear on 29 August 2016, 08:05:29
You mean they lied to me?!? >:(

They told me that it was gonna be called Porcelain-Lamellor Throne IIC!

Is that what people mean when they say "And then things dropped into the toilet"?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 August 2016, 08:11:58
I don't normally add anything to threads like this, but it seems to me CGL just can't win, release lots of really good new stuff, people complain it's not the right stuff, don't release stuff and people are bemoaning the end of Battletech as we know it.  Let's try to stay positive people, please ;)

Can't imagine why some of the writers have started avoiding the online community recently. Coincidence, I'm sure.  :-\
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Post by: RotS fan on 29 August 2016, 08:16:16
You people complain too much about people complaining too much :P
Don't let this discussion become a snowball

Anyway, new and upcoming releases... Any news on Milestones?
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Post by: Weirdo on 29 August 2016, 08:31:10
Let's try to stay positive people, please ;)

We try, but these darned fans keep showing up! ;)
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Post by: Knightmare on 29 August 2016, 08:41:43
Anyway, new and upcoming releases... Any news on Milestones?

On hold. That said, there is a lot of great product headed your way in the interim.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 29 August 2016, 08:49:12
So...once ilClan is out, what's going to be the next memetic (not mimetic) freakout from the online community over?  I mean, we have the complete rule set, Liberation of Terra, and well...I can't think of anything else that looms so great upon the collective grabbyhanded horizon of the forum's userbase.

Or are we going back to the 3250 setting where Cray has used physics to retcon BattleMechs from the setting entirely? :D
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Post by: Knightmare on 29 August 2016, 08:58:03
Or are we going back to the 3250 setting where Cray has used physics to retcon BattleMechs from the setting entirely? :D

Well now that you mention it...

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Post by: Weirdo on 29 August 2016, 09:48:15
So...once ilClan is out, what's going to be the next memetic (not mimetic) freakout from the online community over?

Fans of every faction that didn't rise to rule the known universe will accuse CGL of bad writing, favoritism, and any other sentence they can cram the word 'fiat' into, and threaten to leave the game completely. With the loss of those specific players, Battletech will wither and die in a long slow death that will end with CGL closing its doors permanently within two weeks of ilClan's release. The license will be sold to Games Workshop, and real ninjas will sneak into every Battletech players' homes to melt down their minis, burn their sourcebooks, and kick their puppies.
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Post by: HABeas2 on 29 August 2016, 09:48:42
Well now that you mention it...

*slap*

NO!

-
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Post by: The Eagle on 29 August 2016, 09:51:26
Fans of every faction that didn't rise to rule the known universe will accuse CGL of bad writing, favoritism, and any other sentence they can cram the word 'fiat' into, and threaten to leave the game completely. With the loss of those specific players, Battletech will wither and die in a long slow death that will end with CGL closing its doors permanently within two weeks of ilClan's release. The license will be sold to Games Workshop, and real ninjas will sneak into every Battletech players' homes to melt down their minis, burn their sourcebooks, and kick their puppies.

The moment GW gets their grubby Mitsubishi on BattleTech, I'm going to die a little on the inside.  A lot, actually.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 29 August 2016, 10:00:30
Fans of every faction that didn't rise to rule the known universe will accuse CGL of bad writing, favoritism, and any other sentence they can cram the word 'fiat' into, and threaten to leave the game completely. With the loss of those specific players, Battletech will wither and die in a long slow death that will end with CGL closing its doors permanently within two weeks of ilClan's release. The license will be sold to Games Workshop, and real ninjas will sneak into every Battletech players' homes to melt down their minis, burn their sourcebooks, and kick their puppies.


You left cgl determining alpha strike is too crunchy and have wizards and lawyers ban people from ever playing total warfare.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 29 August 2016, 10:03:16
Or are we going back to the 3250 setting where Cray has used physics to retcon BattleMechs from the setting entirely? :D


If CGL hadn't already effectively done the gag with Shadowrun: William Gibson edition (where man meets machine) as an April fools' day joke a few years ago, BattleTech: No 'Mech edition would be quite amusing.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Fat Guy on 29 August 2016, 10:22:44
WizKids gave us as close to a 'Mechless version of BattleTech as we'll ever see. Before the Age of Destruction rules reboot, a combined arms force that didn't include a 'Mech would beat a force that wasted points to include one almost every time.

AoD made 'Mechs playable again, but by then most of the audience had moved on.


And I actually enjoyed that game, I'm not one of those Dark Age bashers.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: kurtl000 on 29 August 2016, 11:17:06
Look at the fiasco you started Bosch! ;)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Gaiiten on 29 August 2016, 11:50:05
*slap*

NO!

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This was a weak *No* ...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 29 August 2016, 11:51:11
Look at the fiasco you started Bosch! ;)

Oh my God, I wasn't even involved this time! ;D

Well now that you mention it...

After 'Mechs, GRAV TANKS! For the Legion!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 29 August 2016, 11:57:41
I don't normally add anything to threads like this, but it seems to me CGL just can't win, release lots of really good new stuff, people complain it's not the right stuff, don't release stuff and people are bemoaning the end of Battletech as we know it.  Let's try to stay positive people, please ;)

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!...hahhahahah!... eeehhh....

Oh, thanks, man. That was a good one!

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 29 August 2016, 11:58:42
*slap*

NO!

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*Four hail Herbs later*

We will never publish such rubbish. BattleMechs forever!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 29 August 2016, 12:00:37
*Four hail Herbs later*

We will never publish such rubbish. BattleMechs forever!

I just wanted to keep to the current policy that we do NOT discuss anything past IlClan--ESPECIALLY any mention of the more-than-likely-cancelled 3250 material.

Otherwise, I'm amazed that anyone puts stock in anything I say nowadays.

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 29 August 2016, 12:06:41
Crud, I just noticed that.  :-\

I just saw cray's physics and ran with it. I deserve double slaps now
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 29 August 2016, 12:19:16
Crud, I just noticed that.  :-\

I just saw cray's physics and ran with it. I deserve double slaps now

*grabs a tire iron*

Well, you asked for it...

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Gaiiten on 29 August 2016, 12:22:04
Otherwise, I'm amazed that anyone puts stock in anything I say nowadays.

You are like a prophet vanished in a vast desert ...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 29 August 2016, 12:30:31
You are like a prophet vanished in a vast desert ...

*slams open the door, sunburned and wild-eyed* I BRING YOU THE WORD OF HERB! Let this be a message of peace for those who choose to hear it, and a warning for those who do not!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Sharpnel on 29 August 2016, 12:34:16
Hail Herb! Glory be to the Cat Gods and their prophet Herb!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 August 2016, 12:37:40
Don't make me send the lot of you to the Mechwarrior Hall with this.  >:/!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Gaiiten on 29 August 2016, 12:38:31
*slams open the door, sunburned and wild-eyed*
Describes perfectly how I entered a bar in my last holiday ...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 29 August 2016, 12:43:05
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 August 2016, 12:45:14
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Kooken's Pleasure Pit.

No, serious. A world made to be pretty much the seedier days of the Vegas strip? The most interesting parts might be seeing how a world like that adapts/hides from Clan occupation in recent years. (Hell, if I were even halfway decent at writing I'd do it myself. I'm not, so I can't.)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 29 August 2016, 12:46:55
Don't make me send the lot of you to the Mechwarrior Hall with this.  >:/!

Sorry, I'm in high spirits today. I recently severed the last connection with a bad period of my life, and I feel like a new man. I'll get back to doom and gloom soon enough, no fear! All joy is transitory and ephemeral.

...so, for those who got it at GenCon, how were the new additions to Betrayal of Ideals? I don't need spoilers, but were they, well, good?

Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

I enjoy TtS. I'd like to see more on Arcadia, specifically the one mentioned in the old House Davion sourcebook. It was supposed to be a wondrous garden world, and then it just...vanished. What happened?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mendrugo on 29 August 2016, 12:47:11
Rezak's Hole. 

So, before Vance Rezak and his Band of the Damned set up shop there, was it just called "The Hole"?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Gaiiten on 29 August 2016, 12:47:36
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?
Hoard (Clan Homeworlds)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 29 August 2016, 12:49:43
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Ingress.

This world has bee. Involved in almost every major event in the inner sphere. It was part of the Terran alliance, it participated in the outer reaches rebellion, joined the hegemony, the amaris empire, taken by the confederation, joined the tikonov free republic,then fedcom, joined the duchy of small, word of Blake protectorate, republic, and outside the wall to be conquered by the confederation. What identity does a world like that feel?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 29 August 2016, 13:22:21
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?
I'd love to see Chisholm/Elgin get the TiS treatment. Partly because I'd like to learn more about the Chisholm Protectorate, but also because I'd like to learn more about the battles between the Hegemony and the various Capellan proto-states, and the incident that led to the planet being renamed after Captain Edward Elgin.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SteveRestless on 29 August 2016, 13:25:39
name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Anywhere not dead of a plague/stripped of all value/some crapsack hellworld that beggars belief anyone still lives there/all of the above?

I think a really neat one would be one of/all three of, the Cabellero Southwestern Trinity worlds.

Since it seems more likely I'll be handed the line dev title than get a TTS on a thriving and lively world, I'll say Leviathan's Rest on the deep periphery map. I'd like to know more about what was there. Sadly, that's well outside the sphere, so I suppose it won't be in a series touring it.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dmon on 29 August 2016, 13:49:24
I would say pick a world that is deep in the territory of each great house (so a series of 5 - 6 products) that we have literally no information on but a name. These worlds must all be alive and well, and the idea is to bring some story hooks to a place that is not normally subject to epic battles, but doing it by show casing the cultures within each state instead.

(I know these would essentially end up more geared towards A Time of War than Total war.. but maybe things like civil unrest or the like could feature heavily)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mendrugo on 29 August 2016, 13:54:45
If Catalyst is looking for a Halloween-release product, the Combine world of Sighisoara is named after the walled city in Romania where Vlad Tepes (also known as Vlad the Impaler and Vlad Dracula) was born.  Bram Stoker and Bela Lugosi aside, the real history of Vlad and his family is rife with knightly orders, betrayal, gruesome murder, hostages, and a bloody war between Vlad and his brother, Radu the Handsome.  If Sighisoara's history ended up reflecting that (and/or featured gothic-horror appropriate fauna), 'twould be a fun Halloween read.

(Murder and betrayal actually tie into that region quite well - the leadership of Sighisoara would have been among those called to House Kurita's "Council of One."  Those who swore fealty to Kurita got to live and leave.  Those who voted no had their remains shipped to their heirs.)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Weirdo on 29 August 2016, 14:01:13
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Something in Clan space. I know the history would likely end with the Reavings, but we know a lot of those worlds were weird and marginal at the best of times, and we'd finally get a close look at a world under long-term Clan administration, not just occupation, and maybe a decent explanation as to what the hell their enclaves are. I still have never been able to conjure up a decent mental image of one, after all this time.

Also, imagine the enthusiasm if that gave even a small amount of info on one of the Clans that may have had a notable presence on this world, but died off before we got to look at them closely, such as the Burrocks, or Mongoose. :)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mindwiper on 29 August 2016, 14:11:55
As we have so many fans here who are quite happy ammount of new products (which are really great and have a good quality - at least the books) and say that's totally awesome and we don't need more...what do you think...How many new players did they attract? I know, a lot of people came back 'cause of AS some years ago and even some new players joined in. Which is awesome!  But what's the growth rate? 10% 5% 1% a year? Or is our community still decreasing?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ActionButler on 29 August 2016, 14:13:26
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

It has been covered in varying detail in other sources, but...

Terra
The whole galaxy always seems to be fighting over the same silly blue marble, it might as well get its own mini-book. 
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: nckestrel on 29 August 2016, 14:17:15
As we have so many fans here who are quite happy ammount of new products (which are really great and have a good quality - at least the books) and say that's totally awesome and we don't need more...what do you think...How many new players did they attract? I know, a lot of people came back 'cause of AS some years ago and even some new players joined in. Which is awesome!  But what's the growth rate? 10% 5% 1% a year? Or is our community still decreasing?

[gully dwarf math] 2 [/gully dwarf math]
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Maingunnery on 29 August 2016, 14:35:14
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?
Barbados
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mendrugo on 29 August 2016, 14:55:51
It has been covered in varying detail in other sources, but...

Terra
The whole galaxy always seems to be fighting over the same silly blue marble, it might as well get its own mini-book.

You've probably already seen it, but the "Fall of Terra" scenario pack has a fairly substantial writeup detailing Terra and life there under Blakist rule post ODYSSEUS.  The "Liberation of Terra Volume II" and "Jihad Hot Spots: Terra" also give a fair amount of info.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ActionButler on 29 August 2016, 15:04:14
You've probably already seen it, but the "Fall of Terra" scenario pack has a fairly substantial writeup detailing Terra and life there under Blakist rule post ODYSSEUS.  The "Liberation of Terra Volume II" and "Jihad Hot Spots: Terra" also give a fair amount of info.

I love the Fall of Terra scenario book.  It has to be up there in my top five sourcebooks. 

I don't expect a TtS: Terra, mostly because the series seems to be avoiding major worlds.  I'm 100% fine with that, too.  The universe is too big and too full of cool stuff for us to keep focusing on Luthien, New Avalon, Outreach, Northwind, etc. 

HOWEVER... I wouldn't oppose a TtS: Terra, either.  You're right that the planet has been covered in detail already, probably more than any other planet in the Inner Sphere, but it would be nice to have that detail all wrapped up in one book and added to the other These Sourcebooks Are Just About Planets sourcebooks. 
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 29 August 2016, 15:09:26
Either Lum or Plymouth.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: solmanian on 29 August 2016, 15:14:13
So...once ilClan is out, what's going to be the next memetic (not mimetic) freakout from the online community over?  I mean, we have the complete rule set, Liberation of Terra, and well...I can't think of anything else that looms so great upon the collective grabbyhanded horizon of the forum's userbase.


Well, with the ruleset complete, now would be the time to release a new edition that would make the previous ruleset obsolete. That should keep us occupied for a decade or two.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 August 2016, 15:21:33
Well, with the ruleset complete, now would be the time to release a new edition that would make the previous ruleset obsolete. That should keep us occupied for a decade or two.

We're working on it. It's based around a D1 so everything works except the RATs....
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: nckestrel on 29 August 2016, 15:22:34
We're working on it. It's based around a D1 so everything works except the RATs....

The RATs would be perfect! #hatesrandom
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mendrugo on 29 August 2016, 15:35:37
We're working on it. It's based around a D1 so everything works except the RATs....

Have you learned nothing from Amber Diceless Roleplaying?  To-hit attempts will henceforth be resolved through combining the average judges' scores (weighted by height and body odor) for each player's interpretive dance to evoke the mood of firing a gauss round.  Appropriate terrain modifiers may require the use of jello and/or an aardvark.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 August 2016, 15:39:16
Have you learned nothing from Amber Diceless Roleplaying?

Of course, that's why we kept the die part!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 29 August 2016, 16:31:18
I wonder if shadowrun and battletech freelancers send glib emails to eachother when one is hearing more whining from the fans than the others.

I also hope they ganged up on any Dallas fans after what happened to Romo.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 29 August 2016, 16:39:32
I wonder if shadowrun and battletech freelancers send glib emails to eachother when one is hearing more whining from the fans than the others.

Yup! Sometimes it ends up on Facebook, and everyone has a good laugh or a little sigh.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: sadlerbw on 29 August 2016, 17:03:41
For TTS:

One pub covering the trinity worlds as a group sounds interesting.

Quatre Belle: A jumpship yard in the periphery seems like it would have an interesting history

Pomme de terre: Yay farming and all that, but what were a bunch of French dudes doing in space viking land, and why did they name their planet potato?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ActionButler on 29 August 2016, 17:45:44
It's based around a D1

I have a lot of confidence in this turn of events.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Daryk on 29 August 2016, 18:27:13
For a TTS, I'd like to see more on Blackjack, especially before the Clan invasion.  The founding of the Blackjack School of Conflict has so much potential...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Nov. Col. on 29 August 2016, 19:00:08
Fans of every faction that didn't rise to rule the known universe will accuse CGL of bad writing, favoritism, and any other sentence they can cram the word 'fiat' into, and threaten to leave the game completely. With the loss of those specific players, Battletech will wither and die in a long slow death that will end with CGL closing its doors permanently within two weeks of ilClan's release. The license will be sold to Games Workshop, and real ninjas will sneak into every Battletech players' homes to melt down their minis, burn their sourcebooks, and kick their puppies.

I've been off the boards for awhile, is there anything that can be officially said about the release of ilClan? I just realized I've been following Battletech for 20 years now!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Iracundus on 29 August 2016, 19:33:21
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Tired of dead worlds so would like something different, like maybe a rediscovery/redevelopment of a lost world.  Like the worlds of Jia Tian (formerly Arn) and Liu's Memory (formerly Shaobuon).  I would like to know what happened that led to the name changes (who is Liu?), and how these worlds fell off then reappeared on the map.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Scotty on 29 August 2016, 19:57:52
I would be interested in TtS installments for Alula Australis/Borealis, Last Frontier, and perhaps most strongly for Pencader.
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Post by: Jellico on 29 August 2016, 20:15:50
Anywhere not dead of a plague/stripped of all value/some crapsack hellworld that beggars belief anyone still lives there/all of the above?

So Luthien need not apply?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 29 August 2016, 20:35:58
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?
Thomas

It was world that Duke Pavel Ridzik was it's planetary ruler. It's NOT on the map, because it's a secondary world.
Technical Readout: 3039 was last product to mention it. Where Staples Ironhand fought the 33rd New Avalon Hussars in 3008, and the  St. Cyr's Armored Hussars fought a FedSuns raiding militia unit in 3011.

Its was originally mentioned in old House Liao House book.  I'd really like see this world get shout out since its not on any map, yet canon.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SteveRestless on 29 August 2016, 20:40:17
So Luthien need not apply?

Nope!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: cavingjan on 29 August 2016, 21:05:07
Mars
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: VhenRa on 29 August 2016, 21:35:16
Erewhon sounds interesting... and no its not just because its got named placenames named after locations in NZ... just mostly.


Sterope would be interesting from a "How is it doing since it secceeded from the Taurian Concordat" sense.

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Post by: SCC on 29 August 2016, 22:44:46
So Luthien need not apply?
Should really be covered by high-level DC books.

Wait, let me explain. Just at first glance for the entire TtS line I see two uses/resources:
1) Detailed information for having RPG characters go there, and for Luthien, being the capital of the DC, players already have plenty of reason to go there and plenty of information on the sorts of adventures that can happen there. There might be room for purely local things, but it's a hard sell.
2) Planetary Combat Maps for ACS/ISW, which we already have for Luthien (I think)

Thomas

It was world that Duke Pavel Ridzik was it's planetary ruler. It's NOT on the map, because it's a secondary world.
Technical Readout: 3039 was last product to mention it. Where Staples Ironhand fought the 33rd New Avalon Hussars in 3008, and the  St. Cyr's Armored Hussars fought a FedSuns raiding militia unit in 3011.

Its was originally mentioned in old House Liao House book.  I'd really like see this world get shout out since its not on any map, yet canon.
I believe it's a long held assumption that the CC has several systems with multiple life bearing worlds, I'm guessing that Thomas is in one of them.

Erewhon sounds interesting... and no its not just because its got named placenames named after locations in NZ... just mostly.
A planet ruled by (ex-)gangsters and seemingly the central gathering place of every spy in the galaxy will always be interesting, oh wait, wrong Erewhon.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: VhenRa on 30 August 2016, 00:05:08
A planet ruled by (ex-)gangsters and seemingly the central gathering place of every spy in the galaxy will always be interesting, oh wait, wrong Erewhon.

To be honest... Victor and friends would certainly fit in in Battletech.
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Post by: assaultdoor on 30 August 2016, 00:44:17
I would absolutely love TtS: Kaifeng. We got details on the other two worlds of the reborn Supremacy at some point, I think, but not Kaifeng. And there's so much interesting history that could be adapted from the real-world city. Did the founders of Kaifeng construct a huge, beautiful, artificial lake (or ocean, if we're talking DoME)? Did some of the Kaifeng Jews manage to settle on new Kaifeng?
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Post by: Iracundus on 30 August 2016, 01:34:22
I would absolutely love TtS: Kaifeng. We got details on the other two worlds of the reborn Supremacy at some point, I think, but not Kaifeng. And there's so much interesting history that could be adapted from the real-world city. Did the founders of Kaifeng construct a huge, beautiful, artificial lake (or ocean, if we're talking DoME)? Did some of the Kaifeng Jews manage to settle on new Kaifeng?

We do get information on Kaifeng from the novels.  In particular we know it is a mostly agricultural planet with massive exports of rice, up to 400 million tons in 3058 (I'm waiting for someone to determine whether that is feasible with the Jumpship numbers).  Most of these exports go to Sarna and the mining world of Sakhalin, and this food dependency was why Kaifeng was key leverage against the reborn Sarna Supremacy.  Look at the sarna.net article and the relevant novels. 
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Post by: SCC on 30 August 2016, 02:01:28
To be honest... Victor and friends would certainly fit in in Battletech.
No they wouldn't. Look at how fast they're ruining things for the MA, which is like twice the age of ROM, the MD are probably the only canonical intel group they couldn't muck with without the group realizing their being mucked with.
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Post by: VhenRa on 30 August 2016, 05:14:48
No they wouldn't. Look at how fast they're ruining things for the MA, which is like twice the age of ROM, the MD are probably the only canonical intel group they couldn't muck with without the group realizing their being mucked with.

To be fair... they got really lucky when effectively the analog of someone who was aware of the Hidden Five decided to defect to them. Nearly anyone can unravel a conspiracy that good if someone in on at least the outer layers of actual knowledge rather then being a dupe switches sides to help you.
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Post by: VhenRa on 30 August 2016, 05:18:41
We do get information on Kaifeng from the novels.  In particular we know it is a mostly agricultural planet with massive exports of rice, up to 400 million tons in 3058 (I'm waiting for someone to determine whether that is feasible with the Jumpship numbers).  Most of these exports go to Sarna and the mining world of Sakhalin, and this food dependency was why Kaifeng was key leverage against the reborn Sarna Supremacy.  Look at the sarna.net article and the relevant novels.

Would take something like just shy of 11,000 Mammoth trips to do. Lets assume that. Assume one jump (So a Jumpship could do 24~ round trips a year) and I'll assume the dropships are scheduled entirely correct, with enough overlap so the jumpships aren't sitting idle except to recharge at each end. 150 odd Invaders... I believe. I don't even want to know how many jumpships if you were using something like Buccaneers or other less Jumpship efficient dropships.

Edit: Darn... didn't realise it was the same page until now.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mbear on 30 August 2016, 05:46:33
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?

Waypoint 539 or Rim Worlds Outpost 27.
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Post by: SCC on 30 August 2016, 06:04:59
Waypoint 539 or Rim Worlds Outpost 27.
Well the TtS series seems designed to provide RPG material, and those two where clearly added for such reasons, so ...
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Post by: Karasu on 30 August 2016, 06:14:46
I'd quite like TtS: Stein's Folly.  Infamous in its own way.

Or what about TtS: Far Country :D
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Post by: Iracundus on 30 August 2016, 06:30:14
Would take something like just shy of 11,000 Mammoth trips to do. Lets assume that. Assume one jump (So a Jumpship could do 24~ round trips a year) and I'll assume the dropships are scheduled entirely correct, with enough overlap so the jumpships aren't sitting idle except to recharge at each end. 150 odd Invaders... I believe. I don't even want to know how many jumpships if you were using something like Buccaneers or other less Jumpship efficient dropships.

Edit: Darn... didn't realise it was the same page until now.

So doable...if you devote those Jumpships and their Dropships to non-stop year round ferrying back and forth.  Sarna has an Agricultural Rating of D, which using Irian as an example, means it feeds under 50% of its 3.5 billion population through its own on-planet production.  On a diet of 400 grams of rice twice a day, Kaifeng's exports should be able to feed 1.37 billion people (of which Sarna is only 1 destination).  Sarna needs more food imports from elsewhere then, either from in-system sources or other star systems. 

Capturing such high population food dependent systems then may be more of a burden than a gain then for the conquerors as suddenly they need to feed the population.  Unless they also captured the food shipping or redirect their own ships, then the population would starve. 
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Post by: Adacas on 30 August 2016, 10:41:39
TtS: Balthazar III

TtS: Addhara

TtS: Balad II
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Post by: mrbooth on 30 August 2016, 12:07:03
On the twitter feed xtro primitives v in proofing so it looks like we know the next release.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 30 August 2016, 12:21:57
The Hidden Worlds.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 30 August 2016, 12:23:47
These XTRO's theyre digital only right? Will they be compiled into DTF format at some point? I really prefer my tech readouts in that form.
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Post by: Weirdo on 30 August 2016, 12:28:54
We've been told nothing that implies any such plans.
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Post by: Cache on 30 August 2016, 12:30:36
These XTRO's theyre digital only right? Will they be compiled into DTF format at some point? I really prefer my tech readouts in that form.
Cheaper, easier, and more likely if you print them out on your own.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 30 August 2016, 12:40:45
Cheaper, easier, and more likely if you print them out on your own.
This, the price of living in the 21st Century. I like dead tree myself but it's getting harder for me to store physical books that I don't have room for vs load one on a flash drive.
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Post by: HABeas2 on 30 August 2016, 12:42:37
The Hidden Worlds.

*SLAP!*

NO!

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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 August 2016, 12:48:03
*SLAP!*

NO!

-

Kaetetôã?
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Post by: HABeas2 on 30 August 2016, 12:49:22
Kaetetôã?

If the April 1/Halloween products were still a thing, that would be funny.

-
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 August 2016, 12:55:10
On a more serious vein, how about Baxley? The idea of a planet that was one big cargo cult for ComStar has definite possibilities, especially during the Schism and Jihad.
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Post by: Knightmare on 30 August 2016, 12:57:39
On a more serious vein, how about Baxley? The idea of a planet that was one big cargo cult for ComStar has definite possibilities, especially during the Schism and Jihad.

Where's the info on that planet? Source?
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 August 2016, 13:14:27
Where's the info on that planet? Source?

It's in the Gazetteer section of the original House Davion (The Federated Suns) handbook.
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Post by: Atlas3060 on 30 August 2016, 13:24:49
Well, to bring this back on track...

I'll take a quick poll. If you enjoy Touring the Stars, name one planet you would like to see covered in the future?
Minette.

 ^-^
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 30 August 2016, 13:33:06
The Hidden Worlds.

This one is toxic, the next one is rubble and the last one is lava. Just go straight to TacOps and enjoy!
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Post by: Fat Guy on 30 August 2016, 13:59:59
Hardcore. The poor man's Solaris.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 30 August 2016, 15:41:06
Leviathans Rest could be an interesting system to see get the TtS treatment, if for no other reason than to explain the great name.
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 31 August 2016, 06:33:31
On the twitter feed xtro primitives v in proofing so it looks like we know the next release.

Awesome! That is what I want.
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Post by: ActionButler on 31 August 2016, 06:55:12
Leviathans Rest could be an interesting system to see get the TtS treatment, if for no other reason than to explain the great name.

I won't lie, whether or not a planet has a cool name is pretty much the first hurdle to whether or not I want to know more about it. 
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 31 August 2016, 07:29:41
I won't lie, whether or not a planet has a cool name is pretty much the first hurdle to whether or not I want to know more about it.

"Planet X... I'm in. If it was discovered by an anthropomorphic duck, so much the better."
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Post by: ActionButler on 31 August 2016, 08:03:51
"Planet X... I'm in. If it was discovered by an anthropomorphic duck, so much the better."

And is it, or is it not, the home to a giant, three-headed dragon? 
This is important.
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Post by: VhenRa on 31 August 2016, 08:08:17
Must admit, Menkalinan, also sounds interesting.

Just from the way that when the 4th Succession War kicked off... the FWL and Cappies each owned a single landmass on the planet, with militia fighting it out between em.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 31 August 2016, 08:31:21
Must admit, Menkalinan, also sounds interesting.

Just from the way that when the 4th Succession War kicked off... the FWL and Cappies each owned a single landmass on the planet, with militia fighting it out between em.

If not a full TTS article, that would make a fun starting point for a campaign.

Hmmm... might have to pull out Campaign Ops' webbed campaign rules and give some pondering to this winter...
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Post by: VhenRa on 31 August 2016, 08:45:31
If not a full TTS article, that would make a fun starting point for a campaign.

Hmmm... might have to pull out Campaign Ops' webbed campaign rules and give some pondering to this winter...

Its the sorta thing I wish we could see happen more often. Especially during the 3rd Succession War.
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Post by: Cubby on 31 August 2016, 11:12:49
FYI - Combat Manual: Kurita appears to have had its street date today.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 01 September 2016, 11:32:50
*SLAP!*
NO!
-

Ouch!

Stravag Wobbies are still in power. Behind the curtain.

 ;)
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 02 September 2016, 09:54:48
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.
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Post by: Weirdo on 02 September 2016, 10:02:12
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/7dff1eb4d03ea71006cd9b8132aa5157/tumblr_mhr9gayllQ1s45dzzo1_400.gif)
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Post by: Baron RedSkull on 02 September 2016, 12:09:31
No! They are but men!
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 02 September 2016, 12:21:03
No! They are but men!

Aaaaaand that's stuck in my head for the rest of the work day. I hate you all.  ;D
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Post by: Weirdo on 02 September 2016, 13:19:36
Aaaaaand that's stuck in my head for the rest of the work day. I hate you all.  ;D
Aaaaaa...
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/5e0fdb8e9a5bafa71291e21bc50bee53/tumblr_mhr9gayllQ1s45dzzo5_400.gif)
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Post by: CungrVanck on 02 September 2016, 14:56:27
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.

Woohoo!
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Post by: Mendrugo on 02 September 2016, 15:08:24
TtS:Ionus is at the BattleShop now.
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Post by: Hammer on 02 September 2016, 17:05:34
TtS:Ionus is at the BattleShop now.

Ionus on BattleShop (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3656)

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Post by: mrbooth on 02 September 2016, 17:31:43
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.

Any update on when the new anthology and betrayal of ideas will be available?
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Post by: ColBosch on 02 September 2016, 17:41:48
Ionus on BattleShop (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3656)

On Drive-Thru RPG, (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/192427/BattleTech-Touring-the-Stars-Ionus) for those who prefer not to use BattleShop.

Edit: What the hell, forums. Okay, fixed.
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Post by: The Eagle on 02 September 2016, 18:40:32
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.

Is it my birthday?!?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 02 September 2016, 19:24:01
Any update on when the new anthology and betrayal of ideas will be available?
Not in my wheelhouse but I'll ask when we reconvene next week.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 02 September 2016, 19:34:19
Always like new products.
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Post by: ColBosch on 02 September 2016, 19:53:15
Is it my birthday?!?

No. But there is a new Touring the Stars anyway. ;)
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 02 September 2016, 20:35:22
Should see a new Touring the Stars today and Primitives V next week.

Approved! O0
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Post by: kurtl000 on 02 September 2016, 20:49:37
Any update on when the new anthology and betrayal of ideas will be available?
Haha wasnt me asking this time!
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Post by: Wrangler on 02 September 2016, 20:51:58
Nice addition to the string of worlds covered!
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Post by: SCC on 02 September 2016, 21:39:30
Yes, and one the a really good reason to visit, a more or less unaligned world in the IS capable of making WarShips? Spy central
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Post by: jimdigris on 03 September 2016, 07:42:26
"Capable" is a strong word.  The suppliers of sub-components are slagged or out of business.
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Post by: Dohon on 05 September 2016, 08:46:38
Betrayal of Ideals popped up on DriveThruRPG (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/192570/BattleTech-Betrayal-of-Ideals?manufacturers_id=2216) and BattleCorps (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3657).
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Post by: Fat Guy on 05 September 2016, 09:17:46
Betrayal of Ideals popped up on DriveThruRPG (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/192570/BattleTech-Betrayal-of-Ideals?manufacturers_id=2216) and BattleCorps (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3657).

And Barnes & Noble in NOOK format.   [applause]
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Post by: Wrangler on 05 September 2016, 17:43:05
I'll wait until they do the printed version.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 05 September 2016, 18:48:43
OMG reading the hell out of it!
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Post by: mrbooth on 06 September 2016, 12:42:32
So yeah the legends release for today is up and it's Endgame which would make sense if Storms of Fate had been released  last week like was announced  not sure who to ask about this but we are missing a book.
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Post by: MrKiasu on 06 September 2016, 23:41:30
Storms of fate was released. It's not on the battle corps new product list but it's in the catalog.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 07 September 2016, 00:02:56
(https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/word_document/322598924/original/fit_to_size/192x256/c0ac1db1c7/1473195196)
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Post by: kurtl000 on 07 September 2016, 10:49:51
So Endgame was just released hmmmm what goes after that...... [drool]
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Post by: RoundTop on 07 September 2016, 12:16:42
Embers of War comes after Endgame.

(New Novel that came out at gen con last year).  Set in 3067/3068 just as Wolf's Dragoons and the AMC start looking for WoB sponsored units in the Chaos March.  Just before the dawn of the jihad.

If you want some history, Betrayal of Ideals goes back a couple hundred years to the founding of the clans and the unwritten history of Clan Wolverine.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 07 September 2016, 12:28:09
... and Shadows of Faith sometime in the future.
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Post by: Wrangler on 07 September 2016, 14:00:08
... and Shadows of Faith sometime in the future.

I hope so. After reading Embers of War, the preview for the book got me hyped for the book
I prefer the printed book over the epub verison.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 07 September 2016, 14:00:49
Ya i was referring to Shadows of Faith
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Post by: kurtl000 on 07 September 2016, 14:08:51
Ben Rome the Great you still around? Got any Clan news for us?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 September 2016, 14:16:41
Ben Rome the Great you still around? Got any Clan news for us?

I believe he said Campaign Operations was his last contribution to the line. He may have changed his mind- I can't read my own most days, let alone his, but he seemed to indicate that a while back anyway when the PDF released.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 07 September 2016, 14:45:30
*huge sigh* I remember him saying that. Im guess im in denial😢 Was really looking forward to the possibility of Wars of Reaving novels..........
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 September 2016, 14:50:02
*huge sigh* I remember him saying that. Im guess im in denial😢 Was really looking forward to the possibility of Wars of Reaving novels..........

You and me both, sir. I suggest bribing him.  O:-)
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Post by: Jaim Magnus on 07 September 2016, 14:51:07
You and me both, sir. I suggest bribing him.  O:-)

There's always the possibility that others could take up the mantle.
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Post by: wantec on 07 September 2016, 15:19:24
I believe he said Campaign Operations was his last contribution to the line. He may have changed his mind- I can't read my own most days, let alone his, but he seemed to indicate that a while back anyway when the PDF released.
He also happens to be at a conference for his day job, so he's even less likely to respond any time soon
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Post by: Dmon on 07 September 2016, 17:48:34
I managed to miss that Ben had said that.

Really sad day for BT if it truly is his last contribution. The man has such talent.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 07 September 2016, 18:46:44
I managed to miss that Ben had said that.

Really sad day for BT if it truly is his last contribution. The man has such talent.

I thanked him for the humor in campaign operations and he pointed out how much he served as a developer and that came through from the writers. So, like so many things in the i hobby, new people take the reins.
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Post by: Evil Imperial on 07 September 2016, 18:59:13
Is it just me or am I more excited for the primitive vehicles and aerospace fighters that will be in Primitives Vol V, I want to see things like the Tigershrike Hovervehicle, Suvorov Tank, Desert Cobra VTOL, RedHawk gunship, hopefully the grandfather of all ASFs the Chimera.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 07 September 2016, 20:15:03
Got my Combat Manual Kurita today. Form a FLGS that I thought stocking Battletech. Double win!
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 07 September 2016, 21:24:10
He also happens to be at a conference for his day job, so he's even less likely to respond any time soon

I had completely forgotten about that. I join him (and Redshirt) for GTA Online on Tuesday nights, and after half an hour of killing time tinkering with cars and such I couldn't figure out what was taking him so long. Sent a text, and he reminded me that he wasn't in town. I hate holiday weeks, my brain is totally unable to comprehend basic facts.  ;D
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Post by: Weirdo on 07 September 2016, 21:27:58
I hate...weeks, my brain is totally unable to comprehend basic facts.

You make this so easy sometimes... ;)
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Post by: ColBosch on 07 September 2016, 21:32:00
I hate...my brain.

Further fixed. Put it on the movie poster!

I'm just glad to see new products coming down the line again. Since I don't do conventions, August is a boring month for me. ;D
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Post by: NeonKnight on 07 September 2016, 21:37:10
I brain unable basic facts.

Ooo...this IS easy!
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Post by: ColBosch on 07 September 2016, 21:39:43
Oh, and I should note, Noble Knight Games has Combat Manual: Kurita ready to buy. So it's out in the wild now!
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Post by: bobthecoward on 07 September 2016, 21:49:27
I had completely forgotten about that. I join him (and Redshirt) for GTA Online on Tuesday nights, and after half an hour of killing time tinkering with cars and such I couldn't figure out what was taking him so long. Sent a text, and he reminded me that he wasn't in town. I hate holiday weeks, my brain is totally unable to comprehend basic facts.  ;D

Why GTA online?
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 07 September 2016, 23:43:42
Why GTA online?

Because offline it's very very illegal.  ;)
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 08 September 2016, 08:44:36
I hate each and every one of you  ;D

(Also, Bosch's sounds like me before coffee.)

Why GTA online?

Because it's remarkably fun with people you know. Actually send a PM off to either myself or GhostBear if you're interested in joining, we're always happy to throw in new blood to the grinder. (Xbox One only)

/end sidetrack, back to the thread at-hand.

Wait, one more thing.

Because offline it's very very illegal.  ;)

And harder than you think! Damn tracking chips!
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 08 September 2016, 10:09:31
hate! brain!

And with this, the logical conclusion
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Post by: solmanian on 08 September 2016, 13:12:06
Embers of War comes after Endgame.

(New Novel that came out at gen con last year).  Set in 3067/3068 just as Wolf's Dragoons and the AMC start looking for WoB sponsored units in the Chaos March.  Just before the dawn of the jihad.

If you want some history, Betrayal of Ideals goes back a couple hundred years to the founding of the clans and the unwritten history of Clan Wolverine.
Is there somewhere where there's the right order to read the novels? I only just now reading my first Battletech novel. Ever.
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Post by: cavingjan on 08 September 2016, 13:16:20
Sarna has the published order if you search for list of novels.
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Post by: RoundTop on 08 September 2016, 13:31:57
Wikipedia is better organized than Sarna's list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BattleTech_novels

Overall since Battletech has been a living universe, novels progress the timeline. So the published order is the reading order. Some you don't need to read if you don't want to. They are occurring at the same time (eg: Twilight of the Clans vs Cappellan Solution), so you could choose to read all of one then the other.

There are a couple exceptions to this rule.

#1: "Mechwarrior" novels. The ones marked Mechwarrior rather than Battletech are one shots, and a fit a general time area. They typically are not dated the same way.
#2: "Embers of War" is not in that list yet, and it comes after Endgame, but before the first Dark Age novel (Which are in 3135 or so, vs 3068 for Endgame)
#3: "Betrayal of Ideals" is not in that list yet, and it comes (timeline wise) before all of the books, as it is set ~150 years before (give or take 50 years)
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Post by: Wrangler on 08 September 2016, 14:46:51
Chronologically as it stands, Embers of War is right in the bridge area that, leads to Shadows of Faith (SoF).

Only thing if there going to be core line of novels like their used to be like FedCom Civil War books or the Twilight of the Clans. Given Battletech Novel line been inactive such a long time, and in it's infancy of its return. I'd say (my view) that novels are going be in real order, with full novel coming out when it comes out for whatever era it belongs to.  Case White aside from Shadow of Faith is next, but its hard to say how much time SoF is going to cover vs Case White being singular event with battles ensuing on Terra.
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Post by: Wolf Reaper on 09 September 2016, 08:27:21

Because it's remarkably fun with people you know. Actually send a PM off to either myself or GhostBear if you're interested in joining, we're always happy to throw in new blood to the grinder. (Xbox One only)

Well Crap. I will stay sad on my PS4.  ;D
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Post by: CungrVanck on 09 September 2016, 08:42:40
Come on Primitives V :)
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 09 September 2016, 11:52:56
I just got around to picking up Touring the Stars: Ionus, and I'm glad I did - I found the history of Ionus rather fascinating, and there were some really great touches in there - personal favourites of mine were the city of Longroad, the development and construction of the underground, undersea manufacturing facilities to support the yards, and the great, unsung merits of synthetic paper in the formation of hygience products. Everyone talks about the benefits the Helm Core brought in terms of weapons technology, fusion plants, water filtration... but on Ionus, it seems that the benefits of the core were much more... fundamental.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 09 September 2016, 11:53:29
Come on Primitives V :)

Me like all the others we wait.
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Post by: Wrangler on 09 September 2016, 12:39:07
Come on Primitives V :)
YOu, and everyone too!
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Post by: Scotty on 09 September 2016, 19:09:50
Primitives V dropped to the Battleshop five minutes ago.
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Post by: mrbooth on 09 September 2016, 19:18:17
Primitives V dropped to the Battleshop five minutes ago.

Love the Archer model and the Orion is pretty sweet too.
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Post by: Sartris on 09 September 2016, 19:24:44
Finally the Trooper sees the light of day
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 09 September 2016, 19:29:22
Leviathan!

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Post by: S.gage on 09 September 2016, 19:29:48
Thanks for the XTRO! I love you guys!
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Post by: Empyrus on 09 September 2016, 19:35:07
The Orion's great! Never expected to see a variant, only the ON-1C. But then that thing kinda sucks when you think about it so the variant makes things so much more interesting.

Also, funny, the SRM is finally in the arm*, which is also ironic since it isn't actually located there in the subsequent variants, -V and -VA aside.

*The art for Orion has always implied it is located in the left arm but the record sheets place it in the left torso.


EDIT There seems to be a mistake in the text though. It implies the ON1-C has a SRM-4 but the record sheet does not have that, nor does it have free tonnage for that. Dropping 3 tons of armor for it wouldn't sound fun either...
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Post by: Mendrugo on 09 September 2016, 20:02:48
Nice set of designs. 

Alas, with this being the final Primitives volume, looks like we'll never see official stats for the BattleCorps Age of War vehicles (Tigershrike hovertank, Suvorov ICE tracked MBT, Desert Cobra VTOL, and Redhawk VTOL).
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Post by: I am Belch II on 09 September 2016, 20:13:01
Awesome downloading now!
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 09 September 2016, 20:17:38
Liked the primitive Wolverine and Orion.  Dug the specs on the Archer, but trying to decide if I like the art or not.  The Trooper and Leviathan are awesome.
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Post by: VhenRa on 09 September 2016, 20:24:41
Anyone else mentally edit the primitive mechs with prototype weapons to the modern specs for the retrotech era jihad primitives?
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 09 September 2016, 20:32:50
Heck, I kind of want a Retrotech 3/5/3 rocket launcher armed Archer.
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Post by: Scotty on 09 September 2016, 20:39:03
I'm not a great fan of the Primitive Archer's looks, and am happy that it was not around for very long (relatively speaking) before we got the -2R.
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Post by: Evil Imperial on 09 September 2016, 20:41:47
Nice set of designs. 

Alas, with this being the final Primitives volume, looks like we'll never see official stats for the BattleCorps Age of War vehicles (Tigershrike hovertank, Suvorov ICE tracked MBT, Desert Cobra VTOL, and Redhawk VTOL).

Bummed out that man.

So we'll not get the Dragonfire or Chimera ASF or the Bullfrog V/STOL CF (I suspect it's a variant of the Colt Medium Fighter)
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Post by: HABeas2 on 09 September 2016, 21:40:37
Alas, with this being the final Primitives volume, looks like we'll never see official stats for the BattleCorps Age of War vehicles (Tigershrike hovertank, Suvorov ICE tracked MBT, Desert Cobra VTOL, and Redhawk VTOL).

They'd all likely be identical to other units we covered, stats-wise. Much the way BT stats would likely match if I was ever forced to write a TRO for the late-20th century Abrams and Challenger tanks.

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Post by: Mendrugo on 09 September 2016, 22:20:02
Granted.  I was just curious about the Suvorov because the crews complained about it being so terrible, implying it was far inferior to its peers.  Plus, the Tigershrike was a hovercraft capable of being chased down by a Mackie.
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Post by: lurkerabove on 09 September 2016, 22:41:26
Any chance of a Field Manual for the time of the First Succession War??
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Post by: ColBosch on 09 September 2016, 22:47:08
They'd all likely be identical to other units we covered, stats-wise. Much the way BT stats would likely match if I was ever forced to write a TRO for the late-20th century Abrams and Challenger tanks.

I seem to recall Era Digest: Age of War saying something along those lines.

Of course, I wrote it and you edited it. ;D
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Post by: Wrangler on 09 September 2016, 22:57:01
Great book, nice way end the Primitive series.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 09 September 2016, 23:39:39
I'm not a great fan of the Primitive Archer's looks, and am happy that it was not around for very long (relatively speaking) before we got the -2R.

For me, I think it's because the torso looks too much like that  a Toro, while it also sets the cockpit back too far from the center torso's "nose".  The lack of doors on the missile launchers is another issue for me.
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Post by: Deadborder on 09 September 2016, 23:41:59
My long-standing theory on the Trooper is proven at last. I suppose I should strut or something.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 09 September 2016, 23:44:53
For me, I think it's because the torso looks too much like that  a Toro,
Funny, I always thought the Toro looked sorta like a mini-Archer
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 00:07:45
Any chance of a Field Manual for the time of the First Succession War??

Probably not.

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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 10 September 2016, 01:03:24
Funny, I always thought the Toro looked sorta like a mini-Archer

It does. In fact, I personally feel like the Toro's torso looks more like a primitive Archer in some ways than the primitive Archer.
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Post by: Deadborder on 10 September 2016, 05:41:50
Primitives V is fantastic. Thank you all so much for this!
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 September 2016, 08:55:30
This Primitives book has alot of good fluff in it, bravo on the effort made into it!

The Primitive Archer reminded me of the JES III LRM carrier, with those missile launchers.  I need read again if they mentioned how they got from huge launchers on the shoulders to hidden ones with the flip up missile doors it traditionally sports. 

I was looking on Sarna, hadn't realized it's nearly been a year since the last XTRO came out.  Man that was dry period.  Is there like one more XTRO left or was this it?  I thought there was going to be a second volume of Succession Wars.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 10 September 2016, 09:23:02
Great job on the book, lots of fluff!!
I wish there would of been different art for the Leviathan Jumpship, but its probably keep costs down.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 10 September 2016, 09:28:18
I'd once speculated that the Odyssey was based on the Leviathan JumpShip, so I actually laughed out loud when I saw that.
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Post by: Dohon on 10 September 2016, 09:37:21
Thanks for the XTRO, CGL! I'm a sucker for the Primitive 'Mechs and the Primitive Orion instantly became one of my favourites. Much appreciated!
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Post by: Weirdo on 10 September 2016, 11:05:10
I'd once speculated that the Odyssey was based on the Leviathan JumpShip, so I actually laughed out loud when I saw that.

Well, the Odyssey mini is one of the prettiest JumpShips IWM makes, so think if it as an excuse to buy more of them. :)
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Post by: bobthecoward on 10 September 2016, 11:07:22
Any chance of a Field Manual for the time of the First Succession War??

I think the 2765 field reports combined with first succession war achieves great results.

Fun fact: using RATS as a guide, elite house regiments here only about 65% standard tech with the rest intro tech.
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 September 2016, 11:28:53
I guess there a low chance of a Era Digest: Early Succession Wars hmm? :(
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Post by: cavingjan on 10 September 2016, 11:58:12
Not with full sourcebooks
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 12:35:07
I guess there a low chance of a Era Digest: Early Succession Wars hmm? :(

Ah, yes. That one was on the schedule... Back in 2013, anyway. Since then, things changed. It seems unlikely now.

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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 10 September 2016, 12:50:04
It was expanded into 2 full sourcebooks. How is that a bad thing?  :D
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Post by: ColBosch on 10 September 2016, 14:47:49
I was going to say, the First Succession War sourcebook isn't good enough? ;D
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Post by: I am Belch II on 10 September 2016, 14:50:28
Well, the Odyssey mini is one of the prettiest JumpShips IWM makes, so think if it as an excuse to buy more of them. :)


That's True...My fleet is lacking very much in Jumpships now many many more reasons to get them.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 10 September 2016, 15:22:40
Well, the Odyssey mini is one of the prettiest JumpShips IWM makes, so think if it as an excuse to buy more of them. :)
Maybe, but I am still a bit sad that the Leviathan didn't get its own art.

But anyway, the Orion is great, when fan financing restarts I will vote for it.
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Post by: mrbooth on 10 September 2016, 15:44:33
First let me say  Primatives V is great love the Orion and Archer really good stuff.  Wondering is Succession wars II next or Golden Century? Really looking forward  to those.
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Post by: SCC on 10 September 2016, 16:30:59
For those wanting more Primitives volumes, well the Dreadnought came out 200 years before even the TH could build KF Booms, meaning for jump capable craft she technically falls within the primitive classification, at least if I'm reading IO correctly.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 10 September 2016, 16:32:56
First let me say  Primatives V is great love the Orion and Archer really good stuff.  Wondering is Succession wars II next or Golden Century? Really looking forward  to those.

Just as long as they don't hold up irregulartech. :D
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Post by: Pa Weasley on 10 September 2016, 16:33:09
First let me say  Primatives V is great love the Orion and Archer really good stuff.  Wondering is Succession wars II next or Golden Century? Really looking forward  to those.
Couldn't say what's next though the Coming Releases page at least implies Golden Century isn't an XTRO.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 10 September 2016, 18:50:47
So this was the last XTRO?
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Post by: Mendrugo on 10 September 2016, 18:55:42
So this was the last XTRO?

The last Primitives, at least.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 10 September 2016, 21:13:55
I guess there a low chance of a Era Digest: Early Succession Wars hmm? :(

I think he meant "Era Digest: Third Succession War"? Maybe...at least I do know it was planned back when they first announced the Succession Wars Historicals. Would personally still like to see it.... :/
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 September 2016, 22:25:11
I think he meant "Era Digest: Third Succession War"? Maybe...at least I do know it was planned back when they first announced the Succession Wars Historicals. Would personally still like to see it.... :/
I meant Era Digest: Early Succession Wars, that would cover the first 2 wars, what life was like. Dramatic changes specially between and after the first wars since devastation caused by them would change society and politics. It made it harder for merc units (players insert your units!) be operating in or players running official House troop units.

A Era Digest: Late Succession Wars be covering Third and Fourth Wars since we don't have any modern books covering them.

Frankly i rather plow ahead into the future of Battletech but that seem all were getting so far.  SO got go with the flow.  I like everything thou.
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 22:31:40
For those wanting more Primitives volumes, well the Dreadnought came out 200 years before even the TH could build KF Booms, meaning for jump capable craft she technically falls within the primitive classification, at least if I'm reading IO correctly.

The Dreadnought falls into a lovely zone called "too far back for rules to cover", I think. AKA, about anything from before 2300. (The tables in IO cover tech from 2300 onward, placing the stuff from before that line in the "PS" (Pre-Spaceflight) or "ES" (Early Spaceflight) categories. At those points, things got too screwy and the utter lack of any material planned to cover events in those times made it pointless to bother with rules for them.

I guess there a low chance of a Era Digest: Early Succession Wars hmm? :(
It was expanded into 2 full sourcebooks. How is that a bad thing?  :D

Those were the Historicals, Adrian. He's referring to an Era Report/Digest, which would be more AToW/RPG focused (with Tracks for campaign players). Kind of like how we had FM:SLDF (and the 2765 Field Reports), as well as an Era Report for 2750. Before August of 2013, at least, the schedule had planned companion Era Digests for all of the planned Historicals, meaning the Early Succession Wars Historical (then a single book covering the First and Second Wars) was to be followed by an Era Report: Early Succession Wars, with an eventual Third Succession War Historical (or maybe two, though I think it could have been done in just one), with a Late Succession Wars Era book to cover that and the Fourth War-3049 period (which were largely covered by other published sourcebooks). 

Between those four (or five) books, we would have thus had Historicals and Era Reports/Era Digests covering virtually the entire span of BT History from the Age of War through the Dark Age. The same span covered by the Tech Table featured in Interstellar Operations--and a great place to simply call the whole thing complete.

Of course, that WAS the plan, as of three years ago. The plan these days is far less definite.

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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 22:32:30
Frankly i rather plow ahead into the future of Battletech but that seem all were getting so far.  SO got go with the flow.  I like everything thou.

I think that's a different discussion thread these days. Best not to have that talk here.

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Post by: ColBosch on 10 September 2016, 22:53:44
I think that's a different discussion thread these days. Best not to have that talk here.

Indeed, I think the Mods have specifically asked us to not discuss anything post-Dark Age here.
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Post by: Wrangler on 10 September 2016, 23:00:42
I think that's a different discussion thread these days. Best not to have that talk here.
Thank you for taking the time to address my question.  I was concern if i opened a threat about future producing dealing with the past vs moving time line forward would cause thread to lock up.

I was hoping to hear what was coming out or was room to mention things that we could be looking forward to in the days ahead that can be spoken of that we've not heard of. 

Saying something (we got something we've not mention in the work we can't talk about) is least something to look forward too verses silence and looking at stuff we've seen for some cases a year ago due to come out or delayed. 

I'll keep my fat mouth closed now.  :-X
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Post by: SCC on 10 September 2016, 23:05:47
The Dreadnought falls into a lovely zone called "too far back for rules to cover", I think. AKA, about anything from before 2300. (The tables in IO cover tech from 2300 onward, placing the stuff from before that line in the "PS" (Pre-Spaceflight) or "ES" (Early Spaceflight) categories. At those points, things got too screwy and the utter lack of any material planned to cover events in those times made it pointless to bother with rules for them.
Aren't we lucky then that Dreadnought was lunched in 2300 then? But you're right about things being too screwy, clearly Dreadnought is too early to use a Compact Core, but the lore has always said that a standard core can move twice it's own mass, so that could work, but new rules would need to be added to allow for that too work.

Note that this piece of lore may mean that truly primitive, as opposed to retro-tech, JumpShips should probably be cutting their KF Core weights in half to account for this
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 23:16:24
I was hoping to hear what was coming out or was room to mention things that we could be looking forward to in the days ahead that can be spoken of that we've not heard of. 

I'm not sure I follow you here, to be honest. The fact is, unless it's basically been mentioned in the official Coming Soon areas, or teased directly by Randall Bills or CGL itself (not a random person with the BattleMaster badge), chances are you will see no hints about anything you don't already know is coming. Literally no other source is permitted to discuss the matter.

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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 10 September 2016, 23:16:34
Herb—Era Report maybe, but he said digest, which were just filling in the gaps. So Era Digest: Early Succession Wars would t work any longer. Maybe an ED filling the gap between the First and Second, that I could see.

Era Report though, sure, that's a different discussion.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 10 September 2016, 23:19:22
Wrangler, I have to admit it's late, but I honestly can't decipher what you're saying. Could you give it another try?
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 23:24:40
Aren't we lucky then that Dreadnought was lunched in 2300 then? But you're right about things being too screwy, clearly Dreadnought is too early to use a Compact Core, but the lore has always said that a standard core can move twice it's own mass, so that could work, but new rules would need to be added to allow for that too work.

Note that this piece of lore may mean that truly primitive, as opposed to retro-tech, JumpShips should probably be cutting their KF Core weights in half to account for this

I have no idea what any of what you just wrote there was supposed to mean, or quite how you arrived at those conclusions, but since it really seems to have gone off-topic, it probably needs to be filed elsewhere. (I offer no guarantee that it will be resolved completely even then, however.)

On the off-chance that there is an implied question or honest concern here that the Dreadnought might be due for publication in some source somewhere in the future, though, I again think that unlikely. The Primitives series has run its course, and--judging by comments made at the "What's Up With Catalyst" panel at this year's GenCon (it's on YouTube; I have no handy links here)--the same might be said for Experimental Tech Readouts entirely. I stress that neither of these conclusions are ironclad, however; things have a habit of changing.

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Post by: bobthecoward on 10 September 2016, 23:27:18
Thank you for taking the time to address my question.  I was concern if i opened a threat about future producing dealing with the past vs moving time line forward would cause thread to lock up.

I was hoping to hear what was coming out or was room to mention things that we could be looking forward to in the days ahead that can be spoken of that we've not heard of. 

Saying something (we got something we've not mention in the work we can't talk about) is least something to look forward too verses silence and looking at stuff we've seen for some cases a year ago due to come out or delayed. 

I'll keep my fat mouth closed now.  :-X

What is listed on the coming releases page and the implication that we can expect more combat manuals probably takes us through late 2017. I think most game companies tease new sourcebooks at well under a year. So we probably won't hear of any new products, but those new products wouldn't be out for a long time anyway.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 10 September 2016, 23:33:00
I must be confused: wasn't the Dreadnought already published with stats?
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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 23:33:33
Herb—Era Report maybe, but he said digest, which were just filling in the gaps. So Era Digest: Early Succession Wars would t work any longer. Maybe an ED filling the gap between the First and Second, that I could see.

Era Report though, sure, that's a different discussion.

An Era Digest is a miniaturized, PDF-exclusive version of an Era Report. Digests were used to cover periods/venues which we perceived to have very limited interest and/or need for development, such as the Age of War, the Golden Century period in the Clan Homeworlds, and the initial years after the HPG Blackout (i.e. the period covered by WizKids' early Dark Age years). As a general rule, the idea was that any period/setting big enough to merit a full-size historical sourcebook would also merit a Era Report sourcebook over an Era Digest.

(And an Era Digest for the period between the First and Second Wars? That was a six year span, which was arguably just a lull, as the First and Second Wars actually blend into each other--what with several states remaining technically at war throughout the entire length of that interbellum. To do the periods justice, it should be a full-length Era Report, but I suppose one could scrunch the two early SWs down to Digest size; heck, the Age of War was centuries long and it got Digest treatment, after all...) 

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Post by: HABeas2 on 10 September 2016, 23:37:27
I must be confused: wasn't the Dreadnought already published with stats?

Oh! How about that! You're RIGHT! There it is, in the Reunification War Historical!

So CGL wouldn't need another publication for it after all, and that discussion was moot!

I swear, I forget so many things these days, I should probably ask my doctor to check that out...

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Post by: pheonixstorm on 11 September 2016, 00:24:21
I really liked the Age of War book but really wish the era would have been given more detail. As a digest it just didn't get enough treatment compared to other timeframes. Maybe someday it can get a bit more added to it. Maybe a few Field Reports or something with evolving maps covering all the little empires right before they became big empires.. and don't you want to see more NUKES??? Lots n lots of nukes??
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Post by: SCC on 11 September 2016, 02:38:20
Oh! How about that! You're RIGHT! There it is, in the Reunification War Historical!
Well then someone should tell the MUL team, because the MUL says it has no record sheet.

As for my last post, I was making two, probably conflicting points.

As for more XTRO's, there is presumably another Succession Wars volume to come
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Post by: VhenRa on 11 September 2016, 02:50:36
Well then someone should tell the MUL team, because the MUL says it has no record sheet.

As for my last post, I was making two, probably conflicting points.

As for more XTRO's, there is presumably another Succession Wars volume to come


Thats because it doesn't have a Record Sheet. Historical: Reunification War lacks Record Sheets which is annoying for people who like the Talos.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 11 September 2016, 04:06:15
The last Primitives, at least.

That makes me happy. Still would love to see a TRO: What could of Been. All the designs that didn't make it off the drawing board...at least had a good chance of making it.
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Post by: SCC on 11 September 2016, 04:09:49
That makes me happy. Still would love to see a TRO: What could of Been. All the designs that didn't make it off the drawing board...at least had a good chance of making it.
Maybe some sort of write up that lacks stats of any sort
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Post by: solmanian on 11 September 2016, 05:18:31
Herb—Era Report maybe, but he said digest, which were just filling in the gaps. So Era Digest: Early Succession Wars would t work any longer. Maybe an ED filling the gap between the First and Second, that I could see.

Era Report though, sure, that's a different discussion.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You heard it here folks! ER:SWs implied semi-confirmed! Now they have to make it!  8)
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Post by: HABeas2 on 11 September 2016, 06:11:42
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You heard it here folks! ER:SWs implied semi-confirmed! Now they have to make it!  8)

"That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!"

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Post by: bobthecoward on 11 September 2016, 09:41:10
I think this is my favorite year for battletech product since 2013.
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Post by: Wrangler on 11 September 2016, 17:07:19
Wrangler, I have to admit it's late, but I honestly can't decipher what you're saying. Could you give it another try?
Sorry about that, Adrian.  I have trouble expressing myself properly sometimes.

I was hoping there was going be Era Digest or Era Reports for the Early Succession Wars and Late Succession Wars time periods (with Warchest/Chaos Campaign/scenario tracks & individual (not regiment sized units).

Third and Fourth Succession Wars would be nice see something.

I prefer seeing something pushing the time line forward, but this maybe arguably the last time these time periods would get some attention get chance to have modern/update scenarios for players who are playing in both these time periods.



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Post by: ActionButler on 11 September 2016, 17:18:59
I prefer seeing something pushing the time line forward, but this maybe arguably the last time these time periods would get some attention get chance to have modern/update scenarios for players who are playing in both these time periods.

Hmm... that's actually an interesting point.  I mean, advancing the plot has never really taken anthing away from past events, but it would be nice to have all of our ducks, historical or otherwise, in a row before we take a leap into a strange new era. 
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 11 September 2016, 17:28:38
Maybe, but I am still a bit sad that the Leviathan didn't get its own art.

But anyway, the Orion is great, when fan financing restarts I will vote for it.

I'd have liked to see something special for the long lost JumpShip too
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Post by: mbear on 12 September 2016, 08:15:36
That makes me happy. Still would love to see a TRO: What could of Been. All the designs that didn't make it off the drawing board...at least had a good chance of making it.

We already have that. It's the Fan Designs subforum. ;)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 12 September 2016, 15:37:33
That makes me happy. Still would love to see a TRO: What could of Been. All the designs that didn't make it off the drawing board...at least had a good chance of making it.

Stuff that was planned but never entered standard production?

We already have that (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/110086/BattleTech-Experimental-Technical-Readout-Boondoggles).
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon Cat on 13 September 2016, 00:33:24
Fun XTRO
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 13 September 2016, 04:10:18
Stuff that was planned but never entered standard production?

We already have that (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/110086/BattleTech-Experimental-Technical-Readout-Boondoggles).

More of like stuff that would of made it to proto type but for some reason didn't. I was thinking of stuff like the DCMS Yamato and the Kaga.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Rainbow 6 on 13 September 2016, 09:00:54
More of like stuff that would of made it to proto type but for some reason didn't. I was thinking of stuff like the DCMS Yamato and the Kaga.

Maybe another XTRO Boondoggles is needed?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 13 September 2016, 12:10:17
Maybe another XTRO Boondoggles is needed?

"Needed" might be too strong a word...

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 13 September 2016, 12:11:26
Say it with me "ALL XTRO's ARE NEEDED"
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Mendrugo on 13 September 2016, 12:21:03
XTRO Kaetetoa IS NEEDED!

How else are we going to field period accurate boulder-chucking steam cannons and lacquered wood armor?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ActionButler on 13 September 2016, 12:31:17
How else are we going to field period accurate boulder-chucking steam cannons and lacquered wood armor?


 :o.......you have my attention
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 13 September 2016, 12:38:19
OK, yeah, seriously, I'd buy that.  And if it had a steampunkized Locust piloted by alien bird people, I'd be yelling "shut up and take my money!"
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: klarg1 on 13 September 2016, 14:11:52
Liked the primitive Wolverine and Orion.  Dug the specs on the Archer, but trying to decide if I like the art or not.  The Trooper and Leviathan are awesome.

I love the Orion art.

The perspective used makes the Wolverine's pose seem odd to me. I also notice that it includes the 3R's missile launcher, which is fine, but I hope the eventual mini makes it a separate piece.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Rainbow 6 on 14 September 2016, 06:39:01
"Needed" might be too strong a word...

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Would 'be gratefully received' be better?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: VhenRa on 14 September 2016, 06:43:17
That latest Primitives release has reminded me of one primitive grade 'Mech we don't have, though it probably has to be a retrotech downgrade. That Hammerhands Primitive New Hessen was making as per Jihad Hotspots: 3076 and Objectives: Federated Suns.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon Cat on 14 September 2016, 07:02:32
"Needed" might be too strong a word...

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Desired
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Cubby on 14 September 2016, 15:50:57
Public Service Announcement:

The street date for Campaign Operations was apparently today; my FLGS has it on the shelves.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 14 September 2016, 17:30:44
And in other news, just saw the final proof for the first Spotlight On unit.   [drool]

Very happy boy right now.

If I'm feeling squirrelly and you're particularly good boys and girls, I may post some teasers. 
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 September 2016, 18:27:42
Any hints on how much longer?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 14 September 2016, 18:28:51
Yes.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 September 2016, 19:16:56
 [tickedoff] Not cool  >:/!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 15 September 2016, 01:47:46
And in other news, just saw the final proof for the first Spotlight On unit.   [drool]

Very happy boy right now.

If I'm feeling squirrelly and you're particularly good boys and girls, I may post some teasers.
Is it shiny?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 15 September 2016, 05:13:53
Public Service Announcement:

The street date for Campaign Operations was apparently today; my FLGS has it on the shelves.

Going to be on the look out!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 15 September 2016, 07:02:34
And in other news, just saw the final proof for the first Spotlight On unit.   [drool]

Very happy boy right now.

If I'm feeling squirrelly and you're particularly good boys and girls, I may post some teasers.

Ok, I can probably mow your lawn this weekend.  Need any errands ran?    O:-)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: wantec on 15 September 2016, 07:16:32
And in other news, just saw the final proof for the first Spotlight On unit.   [drool]

Very happy boy right now.

If I'm feeling squirrelly and you're particularly good boys and girls, I may post some teasers.
Wahoo!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 15 September 2016, 07:35:52
And in other news, just saw the final proof for the first Spotlight On unit.   [drool]

Very happy boy right now.

If I'm feeling squirrelly and you're particularly good boys and girls, I may post some teasers.

Are these set in the same timeframe as the combat manuals or do they cover details up to the dark age? Assuming they are not dead by then.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 15 September 2016, 08:03:18
They will cover multiple timeframes, it will vary depending on the unit and individual publication. This first one will cover 3039, Jihad, Dark Age (with the history section covering the unit's entire history).
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 15 September 2016, 08:10:06
They will cover multiple timeframes, it will vary depending on the unit and individual publication. This first one will cover 3039, Jihad, Dark Age (with the history section covering the unit's entire history).

This guy. Thank him people. He works damn hard. (Seriously)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon Cat on 15 September 2016, 08:12:49
They will cover multiple timeframes, it will vary depending on the unit and individual publication. This first one will cover 3039, Jihad, Dark Age (with the history section covering the unit's entire history).

Is this going to be a PDF series?  How many roughy?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 15 September 2016, 08:17:08
Damn 'Cat, you should know better. http://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/ (E-Pub buddy.  O0 )

That said, we have an existing slate of 8 units for release. We'd likely release more if the series does well.

OpFor is also on the way, but both the Gazette and Milestones are on temporary hiatus while the kinks are being worked out.

Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: RotS fan on 15 September 2016, 08:18:12
This guy. Thank him people. He works damn hard. (Seriously)

Thanks for working damn hard, Adrian :)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 September 2016, 08:21:35
This guy. Thank him people. He works damn hard. (Seriously)

He is the wind beneath our (partial) wings.  O0
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 15 September 2016, 08:27:03
Ray is the glue holding BattleTech together. O0
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 15 September 2016, 08:41:02
I picked a bad day to stop sniffing Ray!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 15 September 2016, 08:45:53
...moving very quickly on... :o
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 September 2016, 08:55:04
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/cb5irdbl4c25vt5vhf2d.GIF)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Weirdo on 15 September 2016, 09:03:20
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ixZkVDGaTXb68/200.gif)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 15 September 2016, 09:11:56
(http://scottberkun.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/glue.jpeg)

Man, you guys need to watch Airplane! again....
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 15 September 2016, 09:37:13
...moving very quickly on and never mentioning this again...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 15 September 2016, 09:52:59
Man, you guys need to watch Airplane! again....

...and don't tell what to do. I snuck an Airplane! reference into Technical Readout 3085 Supplemental that not even Herb has caught.

So while you all are waiting on the first Spotlight On volume, go buy TR3085 Supplemental and see if you can find it! ;)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon Cat on 15 September 2016, 11:54:46
Damn 'Cat, you should know better. http://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/ (E-Pub buddy.  O0 )

That said, we have an existing slate of 8 units for release. We'd likely release more if the series does well.

OpFor is also on the way, but both the Gazette and Milestones are on temporary hiatus while the kinks are being worked out.

Cool cheers

Curiosity ages ago on Battlecorps there were WarShips, and maybe units, in profile released I think to subscribers were these ever released publicly?  (when I say ages ago I mean months)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 15 September 2016, 12:26:26
Nope.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Feenix74 on 15 September 2016, 19:14:04
This guy. Thank him people. He works damn hard. (Seriously)

I second this sentiment. Thanks to AG and the rest of the CGL team (incl the freelancers and volunteers) you guys are "making Battletech great again!"  >:D
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SteelRaven on 15 September 2016, 19:39:14
...no, nope, no way, none of those jokes please
(http://i.imgur.com/25hhqqJ.png)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 16 September 2016, 12:58:08
...and don't tell what to do. I snuck an Airplane! reference into Technical Readout 3085 Supplemental that not even Herb has caught.

So while you all are waiting on the first Spotlight On volume, go buy TR3085 Supplemental and see if you can find it! ;)

Of course I didn't! TR3085 was another project I completely delegated to others.

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 16 September 2016, 13:14:49
Of course I didn't! TR3085 was another project I completely delegated to others.

You didn't even double-check my work? Aw. :'(
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Gaiiten on 16 September 2016, 13:20:40
You didn't even double-check my work? Aw. :'(
Bosses are so.
Never giving the level of appreciation the poor servant would like to get  ;)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: kurtl000 on 16 September 2016, 13:49:31
Since i have no inclination to use or learn how to use twitter or tumbler or whatever to bother TPTB ill ask here.  Next novel news? Can never have enough of em!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: RotS fan on 16 September 2016, 13:56:26
Since i have no inclination to use or learn how to use twitter or tumbler or whatever to bother TPTB ill ask here.  Next novel news? Can never have enough of em!

it is literally opening a link and read their posts

http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/catalystgamelab
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 16 September 2016, 13:59:59
Since i have no inclination to use or learn how to use twitter or tumbler or whatever to bother TPTB ill ask here.  Next novel news? Can never have enough of em!

Same answer as usual- if Catalyst hasn't announced it, then that's your answer. Continuing to ask the same thing over and over won't make them change that policy.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Weirdo on 16 September 2016, 14:07:51
It seems to me that refusing to go where you know the news will be and instead driving a large group of people(whom you also know won't have the news any earlier than you would) up the wall with the local equivalent of "Are we there yet?" repeats will not get you anywhere good.

 [copper]
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: NeonKnight on 16 September 2016, 14:10:40
You didn't even double-check my work? Aw. :'(

Best to remember the Old Addage:

"Doing a good job is like peeing yourself in dark pants;
It gives you a warm feeling but nobody notices.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: I am Belch II on 16 September 2016, 15:43:32
So what is next?? On the release items.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 16 September 2016, 15:52:45
There are more TtS on the way, and the first Spotlight On for sure. Maybe more.

I can confirm some forward movement on TRO: GC and the first Milestones.

This week has been a good week for BattleTech.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Pa Weasley on 16 September 2016, 15:57:16
I can confirm some forward movement on TRO: GC and the first Milestones.
Dangnabit, you just forced me to do a happy dance
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 16 September 2016, 17:24:49
Is there a target size for tro golden century and irregulartech? Is it like an xtro, project Phoenix, or year length?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 16 September 2016, 17:34:59
Is there a target size for tro golden century and irregulartech? Is it like an xtro, project Phoenix, or year length?

Hi Bob,

I can't provide that information at the moment, but GC & IT do enjoy slightly different formats for each other. I can also only speak to GC specifically, the dev for IrregularTech may be able (or willing) to offer more information at this stage.

As GC moves further along I'll provide little snippets where I can.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 16 September 2016, 19:06:56
It seems to me that refusing to go where you know the news will be and instead driving a large group of people(whom you also know won't have the news any earlier than you would) up the wall with the local equivalent of "Are we there yet?" repeats will not get you anywhere good.

 [copper]

How about now? Are we there yet now?

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 16 September 2016, 19:08:47
You didn't even double-check my work? Aw. :'(

I had a whole team of volunteers whose job was to do that.

Besides, what are you complaining about? Didn't I *fire* you fast enough in my day?

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: kurtl000 on 16 September 2016, 19:11:00
I can easily click links thats not what im talking about. Im talking about having to sign up to ask them questions.  Here we go again with the Battletech Forum over reaction! Moderator threats too thats a new one.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 16 September 2016, 19:47:03
I can easily click links thats not what im talking about. Im talking about having to sign up to ask them questions.  Here we go again with the Battletech Forum over reaction! Moderator threats too thats a new one.

Hey now, his post had a smiley face in it.  ;)

That said—and without derailing the thread any further—you got a chicken or egg argument going on my friend: TPTB use X & Y means of communicating and interacting with their customers, but you don't want to, or can't use those same avenues to communicate with TPTB.

What should change, and who should be accommodated? Tis a question for the ages!

Sadly, between the range of CGL's available resources and manpower, and the possible reach afforded by platforms like Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook, these are the most likely avenues of communication both relevant to, and used by the company.

It's painful to say, but as the old adage goes, "you have to pay to play." Or in this case, sign up for one or more of those services. (Heck, I'm definitely not a member of Tumblr, and I barely skim my Twitter these days. But they're useful, so I rationalize having them.) 

Sorry if the comment was unwarranted or unsolicited.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 September 2016, 21:00:27
I haven't signed up for any of them either, the forums are usually all I need to harass Herb about things he doesn't have information on ;D
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SteveRestless on 16 September 2016, 21:03:54
What should change, and who should be accommodated? Tis a question for the ages!

I mean, coming to the Official Forums that are actually run and administrated by the company itsself seems like a pretty reasonable place to get information about the company's product.

deferring that to the invasive social media flavor of the week is sortof like running a buisness and telling people that they shouldn't come to your office, they need to go talk to the hobo in the park.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Scotty on 16 September 2016, 21:07:00
The invasive social media flavor of the week that requires no login to view, but does if you want to ask questions?  Why, that sounds suspiciously exactly like the way the forums work!  To make your analogy more accurate, it's like CGL has a big posterboard in the lobby you can look at, but if you want to ask questions they need to put their name on the appointment sign-in sheet.

You know, like most actual real places.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: solmanian on 16 September 2016, 21:16:10
Frankly, after what Bioware did with their forums, I think we're lucky to even have forums. I'm sure some in CGL would be pleased with the notion of dropping the occasional tidbit on Twitter, Tumbler, Instagram or whatever, and call it a day instead of interacting with the rabble. We can be a rather annoying lot.  ::)



Than again, we send a lot less death threats than the Bioware fanbase... O0
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 16 September 2016, 21:17:30
I don't know what to make of comparing Facebook, Twitter or tumblr to a hobo in the park. He must a very wealthy, popular, savvy and sofisticated hobo. So much so that he must be aware that he's living in a poorly-constructed simile.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 16 September 2016, 21:35:42
Are Milestone PDFs still on hold?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: roosterboy on 16 September 2016, 21:42:40
Are Milestone PDFs still on hold?

From this very thread:
I can confirm some forward movement on TRO: GC and the first Milestones.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: mrbooth on 16 September 2016, 21:48:28
From this very thread:

Really looking forward to these it feels like they where announced and then forgotten.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 16 September 2016, 21:57:17
From this very thread:

Thanks, i'm looking forward to those products.

Thanks, Knighmare for giving us some tidbits of news!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SteveRestless on 16 September 2016, 22:06:23
I don't know what to make of comparing Facebook, Twitter or tumblr to a hobo in the park. He must a very wealthy, popular, savvy and sofisticated hobo. So much so that he must be aware that he's living in a poorly-constructed simile.

Dealing with facebook is roughly as pleasant as dealing with the guy holding a sign declaring that god is a sock. That's about as deep as it goes.

Whatever it is, it's surely a good reason to avoid the notion that these external services are somehow a better venue to interact with the company, than something the company actually runs. But, I guess if mocking, teasing, and snark are what passes for interaction, then perhaps it's overrated to begin with.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 16 September 2016, 22:22:27
The 'company' doesn't run this site, volunteers do using software made by a third party.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 16 September 2016, 22:28:05
You don't like Facebook, I don't like tumblr. So what, we're interacting.
Each medium has its strengths and weaknesses. One weakness here, is that no one connected with the novels or their release is on this forum. Not only can I not control that, but complaining about it here won't do a whole lot of good because no one connected with the novels or their release is on this forum.I'm likely to find novel news after everyone else.

As for snark, it's not my usual MO—I was merely reciprocating, as I assumed your comparison was snark and not ignorance.

I don't know about tumblr, but an average post on BT's Twitter account reaches about 10x the audience than (the likely maximum)  a forum post does. A Facebook post from CGL or BT sometimes reaches as much as 100x as that. But you don't get the same sort of interaction on either of those that you do here. Either with Catalyst or with other fans.

So all that said, how can I help you?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 September 2016, 22:40:38
A dozen chocolate covered donuts please. To go. :D
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Weirdo on 16 September 2016, 22:45:04
Just remember...that sock knows things. Things...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 16 September 2016, 22:47:53
A dozen chocolate covered donuts please. To go. :D
You have to subscribe to tumblr for that.


Ok fine, here:
(http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs045/1101596944840/img/6.jpg?a=1120604492149)
I ate one. That's interacting!
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 16 September 2016, 22:55:18
I mean, coming to the Official Forums that are actually run and administrated by the company itsself seems like a pretty reasonable place to get information about the company's product.

Actually, forums are traditionally and notoriously the last digital platform a company will utilize as their primary source for product dissemination. Product discussion, yes, but only after said product is released to the general product.   

And I don't want this to sound too snarky, but given the fact that CGL volunteers spend any time porting information from the company's primary means of marketing communication (Twitter, et al.) is a privilege forum community members get to enjoy, not a customer right.

It's your right as a customer to decide whether or not to follow or engage CGL's official posts on Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Remember, when a company holds out the carrot, it's your decision whether or not to take it. 

Quote
deferring that to the invasive social media flavor of the week is sortof like running a buisness and telling people that they shouldn't come to your office, they need to go talk to the hobo in the park.

Well, then you definitely haven't been running any kind of small business, let alone a small niche business since 2010.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but the reality of today's market is that social platforms like Tumblr, Facebook, and Twitter are the marketing and go-to interaction norms for businesses in today's marketplace. They're—for the most part—free, readily accessible, headache free (from a maintenance standpoint), reliable, did I mention free, with large growing user footprints...the list goes on.

I didn't make the rules, neither did CGL, but they're definitely not going to ignore the obvious benefits of said platforms either.

Hey, I'm all for you changing the way a large part of the world does business, or the internet, or social media, but until said time, we all have to live with reality. 
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 September 2016, 23:32:08
How Cyberpunk of you. Oh when oh when will I get my neural interface jack for cyberspace!! (Shadowrun slang might have been more fitting here)
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 01:22:03
I haven't signed up for any of them either, the forums are usually all I need to harass Herb about things he doesn't have information on ;D

And have you noticed that I answer here less and less these days? I've moved on... Well, more or less...

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Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dragon Cat on 17 September 2016, 01:53:03
And have you noticed that I answer here less and less these days? I've moved on... Well, more or less...

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Moved on... nah please don't some replies are quite amusing.  I personally am happy to wait for what comes up next only thing I would like is if the new releases page was updated more often I missed Touring the Stars Ionus initially mainly because these threads go around in circles and I try to avoid them.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 17 September 2016, 07:38:18
Well, back to new releases. Here's an upcoming product hint:

Our first Spotlight On is one of the Inner Sphere's most famous mercenary units not born of Kerensky's blood or royalty, although the unit's founder was buried next to one..

Guess away. Winner wins the forum more info. So put your BT lore shoes on and get cracking!

(I'll still drop more teasers, but let's try to have some a little fun. This is a game after all.)

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Post by: Gaiiten on 17 September 2016, 07:58:04
Kell Hounds?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 17 September 2016, 08:07:26
The only merc unit more royal than the Kells are The Krushers.
No.
(And if you're a factchecker/playtester you should shush)
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 September 2016, 08:17:38
The only merc unit more royal than the Kells are The Krushers.
No.
(And if you're a factchecker/playtester you should shush)


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Post by: ActionButler on 17 September 2016, 08:25:43
Quick!  Where is Col Bradley of the Eridani Light Horse buried?
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 September 2016, 08:26:02
Pretty sure it is not Wilson's Wimps err Hussars

To be that famous top two guesses (the latter being least likely) Eridani Light Horse or Gray Death Legion. I don't recall ever seeing anything on where the found of either was buried though. Now I'm curious.
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Post by: Bosefius on 17 September 2016, 08:27:15
The only merc unit more royal than the Kells are The Krushers.
No.
(And if you're a factchecker/playtester you should shush)


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Post by: cavingjan on 17 September 2016, 08:29:07
Dragon Cat: this thread may help you. Just subscribe to it.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=2209.msg1237998#new
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 September 2016, 08:56:56
Dragon Cat: this thread may help you.

It would be extremely helpful if someone kept it up to date ^-^ For the momment this thread gives up new products sooner. I know I know, volunteers RL and all that ;D
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Post by: Stinger on 17 September 2016, 09:38:00
Despite my newly christened Yellow Beamer, I have no idea what the spotlight is on.

My gut is also saying the Eriadani Light Horse, but given it didn't unlock new info, it has to be something else.

Maybe the Blue Star Irregulars?
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Post by: Jaim Magnus on 17 September 2016, 09:41:01
Grey Death Legion? There've been bits of them popping up lately.
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Post by: The Eagle on 17 September 2016, 11:35:59
My first guess would be the Northwind Highlanders, but I'm away from my books and don't know if we even know who their founder is, since their roots go all the way back to our modern history....
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Post by: kurtl000 on 17 September 2016, 11:46:16
And have you noticed that I answer here less and less these days? I've moved on... Well, more or less...

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Have you? You leave plenty of negative comments here lately please stop.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 17 September 2016, 11:50:02
I highly doubt it's the Eridani Light Horse.  I'm feeling the GDL.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 17 September 2016, 13:18:19
Have you? You leave plenty of negative comments here lately please stop.

He is one of the most significant contributors to the game. He can say what he wants.
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Post by: Knightmare on 17 September 2016, 13:48:32
Hey guys, lets focus on the guessing. Well, I mean, if you want more BT info that is...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 17 September 2016, 14:14:40
How literal is born of Kerensky's blood?

Here is my guess. Waco rangers. Super famous and Wayne waco was "buried" metaphorically speaking next to someone born of Kerensky's blood.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: CungrVanck on 17 September 2016, 14:40:58
Would it be Ramilie's Raiders?

I don't have my books, but didn't one of them marry into the Centrella family?
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Post by: Hussar2 on 17 September 2016, 14:51:32
Maybe Team banzai?

Dr banzai had saved Hanse's life and was perhaps honored by being interred close to him (a long shot, I know)
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Post by: Knightmare on 17 September 2016, 15:36:15
Not born of Kerensky's blood should be taken loosely. ^-^ (Meaning, not Clan)
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Post by: ColBosch on 17 September 2016, 15:36:59
Black Thorns.


...I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Hussar2 on 17 September 2016, 15:46:11
Can we get a minor clarification?
Was the unit founder buried next to a noble or next to a clansman?
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Post by: jklantern on 17 September 2016, 16:48:35
Can we get a minor clarification?
Was the unit founder buried next to a noble or next to a clansman?

A noble clansman!   :D
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Post by: kurtl000 on 17 September 2016, 17:23:10
He is one of the most significant contributors to the game. He can say what he wants.
Spreading around negativity shouldn't be tolerated no matter who they are. It's unprofessional and nobody bats an eye.
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Post by: Knightmare on 17 September 2016, 17:29:54
kurtl000 please take this elsewhere, or PM. Trying to talk BT here!  O0

Can we get a minor clarification?
Was the unit founder buried next to a noble or next to a clansman?

Buried beside a noble.
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Post by: Bedwyr on 17 September 2016, 17:31:50
And I'll add a mod note to that. Your point is made and does not need to be made repeatedly. Stop please.
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 18:02:52
Have you? You leave plenty of negative comments here lately please stop.

Well, I *did* say "more or less".

But the way I see it, making negative comments makes me no different than many others. Welcome to the internet!

(P.S.: I've also left several helpful remarks and even a few lengthy explanations for legitimate questions; I'm well-rounded that way.  8))

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Post by: The Eagle on 17 September 2016, 19:01:21
Buried beside a noble.

12th Vegan Rangers?  CM:Mercs mentions their founding being a romantic tale between them and the Duke of Verde.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 17 September 2016, 19:25:13
Maybe Team banzai?

Dr banzai had saved Hanse's life and was perhaps honored by being interred close to him (a long shot, I know)

Sadly, I've got a feeling that lawyers are going to scotch that one :( (And especially since I'd bet the artists could pull off a pretty good Peter Weller... IP law, ick.)

Just because I've got nuthin but still want to put a guess into the fire -- The Grave Walkers, perhaps?
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 19:42:59
Would it be Ramilie's Raiders?

I don't have my books, but didn't one of them marry into the Centrella family?

More like, boinked into the family... and was subsequently kicked out. Nicolas Ramilie and Emma Centrella had at least four kids, but it does not appear they ever married. When Nicholas was sent packing, he took a son with him (Newton II), and left behind the three daughters (Danai, Erde, and Naomi). Them Centrella women don't need to keep their boy toys around once they're done with them.

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Post by: Wrangler on 17 September 2016, 19:44:32
I think it could be DropShip Irregulars, the commander was Pryde, but they died in 3070 due to orbital bombardment.

Only other unit i could think of that had a drop of blood from a Keresenky literately in it was the Wolf Hunters.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 17 September 2016, 19:45:09
Weird question....

What does Loren Coleman do? Unlike Adrian Gideon who posts here, and Randall bills on Twitter, I only hear about this guy from the gencon video.
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 19:47:33
Weird question....

What does Loren Coleman do? Unlike Adrian Gideon who posts here, and Randall bills on Twitter, I only hear about this guy from the gencon video.

Basically, he owns Catalyst (aka InMediaRes). He's the one that yells at Randall when things go wrong.

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Post by: kurtl000 on 17 September 2016, 19:56:21
I get them all confused isn't Coleman the one writing Shadows of Faith? And I thought Randall owned Catalyst? Or wait is Randall lead dev?
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 20:02:35
I get them all confused isn't Coleman the one writing Shadows of Faith? And I thought Randall owned Catalyst? Or wait is Randall lead dev?

Yeah. Coleman was the one writing Shadows of Faith. He used to be a novelist and sourcebook writer. But I've not seen him write a book since... well, the days when I had a title. (Heck, I had to outsource the ONE sourcebook assigned to him in my entire tenure, because he simply never got around to it!)

Randall does not own Catalyst. Never has. He wears "many hats" and is currently the guy whose name appears next to "Line Developer" for BattleTech, but that's really just one of many duties for him. "Managing Developer", I believe, is still his primary title in CGL.

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*gasp* Wait! I screwed that up! I was supposed to say something negative here, wasn't I? ... Ah! Here we go: What's 3 minus 6?  :D
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Post by: SteelRaven on 17 September 2016, 20:07:40
Google my friend
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 20:08:42
Google my friend
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills

Didn't someone already complain here about not wanting to have to search other places on the internet for this stuff?

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Post by: SteelRaven on 17 September 2016, 20:15:19
Didn't someone already complain here about not wanting to have to search other places on the internet for this stuff?

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Strange attitude to have in the digital age unless your just looking for a excuse to complain ;)
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Post by: HABeas2 on 17 September 2016, 20:18:09
Strange attitude to have in the digital age unless your just looking for a excuse to complain ;)

*you're  ;)  See? There's ALWAYS an excuse to complain!  O:-)

That said, so what else IS in the pipeline for BattleTech? Anything good?

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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 September 2016, 20:41:44
XTRO 3200 Birdmen of Haydes!
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Post by: bobthecoward on 17 September 2016, 20:43:52
Basically, he owns Catalyst (aka InMediaRes). He's the one that yells at Randall when things go wrong.

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I guess that means read and write a bunch of E-mail?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 17 September 2016, 21:03:39
Any more sniping and attitude, and I'll personally drop warnings. Clear?

Move on, people.
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Post by: Wrangler on 17 September 2016, 21:31:33
Can't we just talk about new products guys.  This isn't the tread for other stuff.

It's like one few lines of communication for new things, Lets stick with that.

I'm excited that that Milestone is still coming, thou i wonder if it's same one they spoke about on that Blog Cast a while ago.

Is XTRO: Succession Wars II the last of the XTROs?
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Post by: Knightmare on 17 September 2016, 21:33:44
Only other unit i could think of that had a drop of blood from a Keresenky literately in it was the Wolf Hunters.

Hey Wrangler, it's a unit not connected to the blood of Kerensky (literally or figuratively), and buried next a noble.

I'm digging the guesses folks. Very varied, very creative, and very wrong.  O0

You only have like 100 more mercenary commands to go! Keep at it. Don't get discouraged, and get your thinking caps on. I mean, you guys are BattleTech fanatics aren't you? Don't you know the history of BT better than the history of your home country?  ;)

Search those sourcebooks!

I'm excited that that Milestone is still coming, thou i wonder if it's same one they spoke about on that Blog Cast a while ago.

Sorta. Mostly. Some changes have been made to format.
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Post by: Bosefius on 17 September 2016, 22:04:05
Locked pending review.

This thread is unlocked after pruning. Several posts have been made by Moderators and an Administrator to stay on topic. At this point "cut it outs" are over, all further violations will result in warnings.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 18 September 2016, 03:40:00
Is it a merc unit?

I thought an old house unit would have been good like the Davion Brigade, Genyosha or Eisenjager would have been prime ccandidates
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Post by: HABeas2 on 18 September 2016, 03:58:05
I guess that means read and write a bunch of E-mail?

Um, who? Loren? No, he and Randall live in the same town, so if Loren decides to give Randall a hard time, he can just stop by.

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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 18 September 2016, 04:28:32
Hey Wrangler, it's a unit not connected to the blood of Kerensky (literally or figuratively), and buried next a noble.
I'm wondering if it's "buried next to a noble" in the sense of both the unit commander and the noble dying in the same location at the same time via something like orbital bombardment.

How about the Black Warriors? There were a lot of nobles in that room on Arc-Royal when Fritz Donner blew himself up, and most were probably buried in bits.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 18 September 2016, 04:43:43
How about the Black Warriors? There were a lot of nobles in that room on Arc-Royal when Fritz Donner blew himself up, and most were probably buried in bits.
I can see it now, FritzBitz - part of a wholesome breakfast approved by the Blessed Blake!  (That or a really disturbing beef jerky advertising campaign; 'no party like a Donner party')

So...since we have word that the Milestones are rolling once more (badump tish) can someone recap what DAMNATIO was supposed to be, from what we know so far?  I'd imagine that's going to be (one of) the first of the series, so...
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Post by: Sharpnel on 18 September 2016, 04:44:41
Well, back to new releases. Here's an upcoming product hint:

Our first Spotlight On is one of the Inner Sphere's most famous mercenary units not born of Kerensky's blood or royalty, although the unit's founder was buried next to one..

Guess away. Winner wins the forum more info. So put your BT lore shoes on and get cracking!

(I'll still drop more teasers, but let's try to have some a little fun. This is a game after all.)
Here's my WAG: Crescent Hawks
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Post by: Sigil on 18 September 2016, 05:50:27
Twelfth Star Guards  O0
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Post by: csentman on 18 September 2016, 09:18:03
Burton's Brigade is my guess
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Post by: ColBosch on 18 September 2016, 09:40:30
Wait. Is it McCarron's Armored Cavalry?
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Post by: bobthecoward on 18 September 2016, 10:36:28
Um, who? Loren? No, he and Randall live in the same town, so if Loren decides to give Randall a hard time, he can just stop by.

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I was thinking about emails to all the boring stuff... banks, the power company.

And keep an eye on shadowrun people. I never trusted them. They are shifty.  :-\
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 September 2016, 10:56:03
I can see Loren banging on Randall's door at 3 in the morning yelling about missed deadlines and new product ideas.

But alas... Lexington Combat Group (wild guess)

Can we get another hint?? Like what time frame are we dealing with here.
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Post by: truetanker on 18 September 2016, 11:08:59
it's a unit not connected to the blood of Kerensky (literally or figuratively), and buried next a noble.

My guess would be Wolf's Dragoons, but Natasha is a blood descendant of Kerensky. And Jaime Wolf was knighted with several Titles.

TT
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Post by: Wrangler on 18 September 2016, 12:27:15
I got no idea now.  I was going think of Rolling Thunder, but their not merc unit.  They have a very distant retaliative of Cameron as among it's former commanders.

Not like units like the 17th Recon Regiment, since i don't think anyone got killed and near duke recently during the Jihad or earlier.  A duke was killed in the second book in the novel series they were featured in.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 18 September 2016, 13:18:29
The Blazing Aces of the first Mechwarrior game centered around the Vandenburg family, the Dukes of Ander's Moon though the Blazing Aces never received conical recognition as the Crescent Hawks.  Jayson Youngblood listening to Gideon Braver's last words after the Aces got wiped out by the Clans is still considered apocryphal.
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Post by: Hammer on 18 September 2016, 13:20:39
Hey Wrangler, it's a unit not connected to the blood of Kerensky (literally or figuratively), and buried next a noble.

I'm digging the guesses folks. Very varied, very creative, and very wrong.  O0

You only have like 100 more mercenary commands to go! Keep at it. Don't get discouraged, and get your thinking caps on. I mean, you guys are BattleTech fanatics aren't you? Don't you know the history of BT better than the history of your home country?  ;)

Search those sourcebooks!

Sorta. Mostly. Some changes have been made to format.
My guess:

Who is Blue Star Irregulars.

Their warship "Kerensky's Blues" was destroyed in the Jihad.  They fought with Morgan Kell and Peter Steiner-Davion on Tharkad.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Knightmare on 18 September 2016, 13:35:54
We have a winner! Sharpnel, please take a bow! Our inagural Spotlight On will cover the famed Crescent Hawks mercenary command!

The first Youngblood was not related to the Clans (ie Kerensky's blood) and he was buried next to a noble. Can you guess which one?

The Crescent Hawks' history, personnel and composition will see multiple era highlights, and a complete unit breakdown.

Players will be able to use the complete Hawk command for TW, AS, and AToW player.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 September 2016, 13:55:58
They were also mentioned a page ago I think
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Post by: Knightmare on 18 September 2016, 14:10:53
Nope, Sharpnel was first. He gets za cookie.

But there's still more. Who was the noble? Much more difficult question imho to answer...
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: bobthecoward on 18 September 2016, 14:36:27
We have a winner! Sharpnel, please take a bow! Our inagural Spotlight On will cover the famed Crescent Hawks mercenary command!

The first Youngblood was not related to the Clans (ie Kerensky's blood) and he was buried next to a noble. Can you guess which one?

The Crescent Hawks' history, personnel and composition will see multiple era highlights, and a complete unit breakdown.

Players will be able to use the complete Hawk command for TW, AS, and AToW player.

That is a fun one. It is an interesting fit considering how few canon references are. And it is crazy they never got an entry in the mercs field manuals or supplementals.
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Post by: ColBosch on 18 September 2016, 14:47:41
Nope, Sharpnel was first. He gets za cookie.

But there's still more. Who was the noble? Much more difficult question imho to answer...

I tried to cheat, and still failed. The amended pages from Operation HIGASHIKUNI - which are also the only old Field Manual-style writeup for the Crescent Hawks - don't mention this bit of trivia. ;D
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 18 September 2016, 14:48:26
That is a fun one. It is an interesting fit considering how few canon references are. And it is crazy they never got an entry in the mercs field manuals or supplementals.

They are in Combat Manual: Mercenaries though.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 18 September 2016, 15:14:47
When you say full unit breakdown what do you mean? Like down to individual mechs etc? Because the force composition list at the end of the Operation Serpent sourcebook is awesome i love that, even though it seems to be missing some designs.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 September 2016, 15:15:31
Like that.
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Post by: truetanker on 18 September 2016, 15:17:20
But there's still more. Who was the noble? Much more difficult question imho to answer...

Morgan Kell?

TT

( I happen to have all the Crescent Hawk's games on an unopened Powerpoint box.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Dmon on 18 September 2016, 15:20:40
Be fun to have a wright up of the Hawk's!

So glad it is not the millionth product on Wolf's Dragoons.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 September 2016, 15:32:10
*throws Dragoons writeup in the trash*
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Post by: Knightmare on 18 September 2016, 15:32:29
When you say full unit breakdown what do you mean? Like down to individual mechs etc? Because the force composition list at the end of the Operation Serpent sourcebook is awesome i love that, even though it seems to be missing some designs.

Adrian answered it proper, but for more information...

Spotlight On brings some of the old "phonebook" style back to unit coverage (think Clan Wolf Sourcebook, etc.). In addition to showcasing some of the history, characters, and traditions, Spotlight On will also breakdown each unit's composition by a selection of notable eras.

For the Crescent Hawks, we'll see the complete TO&E for the Succession Wars, Jihad, and Dark Age eras.

If someone correctly guesses the noble in question I'll post more info.

Start guessing!
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 18 September 2016, 15:40:04
If someone correctly guesses the noble in question I'll post more info.

Start guessing!

Princes Michael of Kent
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Daryk on 18 September 2016, 15:46:38
*throws Dragoons writeup in the trash*
Please don't.  Some of us liked the Dragoons before the Clan invasion, and would like to hear more about that era.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: ColBosch on 18 September 2016, 16:09:50
*throws Dragoons writeup in the trash*

Yeah! You show those 'Goons who's boss!

Please don't.  Some of us liked the Dragoons before the Clan invasion, and would like to hear more about that era.

Sorry, what more is there? If anything, we need more info on them between the Clan Invasion and the preludes to the Jihad. The Dragoon Civil War got, like, two lines in one sourcebook.
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Post by: Wrangler on 18 September 2016, 16:14:28
Dragoons in the Dark Age sound badassed.  I rather hear about them as well.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 September 2016, 16:31:01
Wilson's Hussars would be a fantastic one- how many stories of bad luck can you cram into one tale?
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Post by: Jaim Magnus on 18 September 2016, 16:38:17
Sorry, what more is there? If anything, we need more info on them between the Clan Invasion and the preludes to the Jihad. The Dragoon Civil War got, like, two lines in one sourcebook.

Also, an entire novel.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 September 2016, 17:25:22
The Hussars and Dragoons (as well as a few others) do have TO&E writeups in older products for the 3025 period, so a nice TO&E for them set during or after the Clan Invasion and later would be welcome.
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Post by: Deadborder on 18 September 2016, 17:34:28
Everything needs more Wilson's Hussars. Best Merc unit ever, IMHO
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: kurtl000 on 18 September 2016, 17:37:01
Adrian answered it proper, but for more information...

Spotlight On brings some of the old "phonebook" style back to unit coverage (think Clan Wolf Sourcebook, etc.). In addition to showcasing some of the history, characters, and traditions, Spotlight On will also breakdown each unit's composition by a selection of notable eras.

For the Crescent Hawks, we'll see the complete TO&E for the Succession Wars, Jihad, and Dark Age eras.

If someone correctly guesses the noble in question I'll post more info.

Start guessing!
You just brought me to tears. I love the phone book style. This would be the first PDF only thing ive purchased since the Wars of Reaving supplemental.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 September 2016, 18:03:54
Yeah, I'm sold and will buy every Spotlight released.

Has the price been decided yet? Will it be around 2.99 like the Touring the Stars or 4.99 like the XTROs? Unless this has a lot more material than either I don't see TPTB risking higher than say 7.99. In any event, I think it will be a much welcomed addition to BT and can't wait to read up more on the Cresent Hawks. I still have them both in 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 floppies, though don't have a machine old enough to run them anymore...  :'(
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 September 2016, 18:04:09
Everything needs more Wilson's Hussars. Best Merc unit ever, IMHO

I like you. Have a cookie.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 18 September 2016, 18:11:47
I like the Hussars, used to play them a lot back when I had the original Merc Handbook. Fun times.
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Post by: Sartris on 18 September 2016, 18:31:43
it would be cool to get one on some in-depth info on smaller / short-lived units with unique backstories like Battle Magic
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Post by: Feenix74 on 18 September 2016, 18:47:37

If someone correctly guesses the noble in question I'll post more info.

Start guessing!

Thanks Knightmare and CGL, you make an old grognard happy - my first introduction to Battletech was playing Crescent Hawks Inception for hours on end back in 1988 instead of doing my homework (good times).

My guess is Archon Katrina Steiner Arthur Luvon, Duke of Donegal and consort to Archon Katrina Steiner.

Edit - just realised that noble usually does not necessarily mean King/Queen equivalent.
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Post by: Scotty on 18 September 2016, 18:50:44
I don't know about anybody else but I'd really, really like a Spotlight On Lindon's Company.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 18 September 2016, 19:02:43
We have a winner! Sharpnel, please take a bow! Our inagural Spotlight On will cover the famed Crescent Hawks mercenary command!

The first Youngblood was not related to the Clans (ie Kerensky's blood) and he was buried next to a noble. Can you guess which one?

The Crescent Hawks' history, personnel and composition will see multiple era highlights, and a complete unit breakdown.

Players will be able to use the complete Hawk command for TW, AS, and AToW player.

 [drool]  OK, just to expedite matters, my bank account number is...  ;D
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 18 September 2016, 19:14:15
I don't know about anybody else but I'd really, really like a Spotlight On Lindon's Company.

MechWarrior 4?
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 September 2016, 19:36:06
MechWarrior 4?

They were in that game in the fighting against Liao, but they actually have a long history going back to Battletech's early days- which made it fun to get to see them during the Styk fighting rather than some random unit or other instead.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 18 September 2016, 19:39:58
Just read the Sarna entry on them checking up on my own guess O0

I remember them from the game saving Sarah Lindon then getting help from them later loved that game shame it was all non-canon

Then again choosing the Wolves at the end and becoming an elite clanner or Peter's personal guard was a bit Mary-sue
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Post by: NeonKnight on 18 September 2016, 19:49:21
*throws Dragoons writeup in the trash*

YAY!  #P :P
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Post by: theothersarah on 18 September 2016, 19:59:01
I'll buy anything that has to do with the Wilson's Hussars. I love those guys :3
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Post by: bobthecoward on 18 September 2016, 20:50:59
Adrian answered it proper, but for more information...

Spotlight On brings some of the old "phonebook" style back to unit coverage (think Clan Wolf Sourcebook, etc.). In addition to showcasing some of the history, characters, and traditions, Spotlight On will also breakdown each unit's composition by a selection of notable eras.

For the Crescent Hawks, we'll see the complete TO&E for the Succession Wars, Jihad, and Dark Age eras.

If someone correctly guesses the noble in question I'll post more info.

Start guessing!

In the phone book days there were far fewer variants and classis and it showed in the repetition. Did you get a chance to make some interesting selections now the era is "complete" as mechs go?
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Post by: Knightmare on 18 September 2016, 21:59:47
Select the correct noble and I'll answer your question.  ^-^

And no one get frustrated. We all love BattleTech.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 18 September 2016, 22:02:06
Just read the Sarna entry on them checking up on my own guess O0

I remember them from the game saving Sarah Lindon then getting help from them later loved that game shame it was all non-canon

Then again choosing the Wolves at the end and becoming an elite clanner or Peter's personal guard was a bit Mary-sue

Not so Mary Sue when you consider that your probably still on Tharkad when the Wobbies make it glow in the dark!

I really enjoyed the story line in MW4: Mercs and I loved starting a feud with Burr's Black Cobras.



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Post by: Dragon Cat on 18 September 2016, 23:17:52
You know I thought about it after I typed the message you're right even with the Wolf option if you're on Tamar you end up glowing in the dark too...

It was a cleverly woven story I enjoyed it too and typical of the merc trade units facing off against each other making friends and enemies
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Post by: Wolf Reaper on 18 September 2016, 23:32:54
Select the correct noble and I'll answer your question.  ^-^

And no one get frustrated. We all love BattleTech.

Katrina Steiner
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 18 September 2016, 23:36:17
Katrina Steiner

Which one? The real one or the pretender?

I'll go with the other one Victor Steiner-Davion.  Considering the messed up things that came out of the DA you never know
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Post by: Sharpnel on 19 September 2016, 04:59:01
We have a winner! Sharpnel, please take a bow! Our inagural Spotlight On will cover the famed Crescent Hawks mercenary command!

The first Youngblood was not related to the Clans (ie Kerensky's blood) and he was buried next to a noble. Can you guess which one?

The Crescent Hawks' history, personnel and composition will see multiple era highlights, and a complete unit breakdown.

Players will be able to use the complete Hawk command for TW, AS, and AToW player.
*bows before the adoring crowd* Hey! Why are you throwing rotten vegetables at me *ducks*
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Post by: Sharpnel on 19 September 2016, 05:04:36
Everything needs more Wilson's Hussars. Best Merc unit ever, IMHO
O0 O0 O0
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Post by: Feenix74 on 19 September 2016, 06:25:20
Which one? The real one or the pretender?

Only one Archon Katrina Steiner. The other one is Katherine Steiner-Davion.

Select the correct noble and I'll answer your question.  ^-^

Morgan Kell, Grand Duke of Arc-Royal
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 September 2016, 07:16:54
*bows before the adoring crowd* Hey! Why are you throwing rotten vegetables at me *ducks*

Are you new here or something? You're lucky the hand grenades are staying in pockets.  ^-^
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Post by: CungrVanck on 19 September 2016, 07:19:58
Spotlight On brings some of the old "phonebook" style back to unit coverage (think Clan Wolf Sourcebook, etc.). In addition to showcasing some of the history, characters, and traditions, Spotlight On will also breakdown each unit's composition by a selection of notable eras.

For the Crescent Hawks, we'll see the complete TO&E for the Succession Wars, Jihad, and Dark Age eras.

Okay, that sounds awesome.  Where do I send my payment?

And Adrian, don't throw that Wolf's Dragoons work away!  There are more than a few years where the Dragoons still have stories that could be told.  Especially if we can get some Dark Age stories about them :)
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Post by: ActionButler on 19 September 2016, 07:20:33
Are you new here or something? You're lucky the hand grenades are staying in pockets.  ^-^

*puts the hand grenade away*
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 19 September 2016, 08:39:30
Melissa Steiner?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 September 2016, 08:48:10
It's a tricky question. Jeremiah Youngblood had a little known part time career as a clown, specializing in balloon animals. When he passed away he was buried with all of his clown gear, including a tank full of helium for the balloons. Thus, the noble he is buried next to is the noble gas helium.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 19 September 2016, 08:53:35
It's a tricky question. Jeremiah Youngblood had a little known part time career as a clown, specializing in balloon animals. When he passed away he was buried with all of his clown gear, including a tank full of helium for the balloons. Thus, the noble he is buried next to is the noble gas helium.

*watches Kit stretch to the limits for that joke*
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 September 2016, 08:55:06
Kit: the only other person to win a round of Riddles with Smeagol.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 September 2016, 08:55:21
*watches Kit stretch to the limits for that joke*

I contemplated being him also being buried next to some uranium that produced helium as part of its natural decay process but clowns are much more fun.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 19 September 2016, 09:56:46
Will there be spotlights on things other than gaijin  money soldiers?
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Post by: Cubby on 19 September 2016, 12:00:41
Will there be spotlights on things other than gaijin  money soldiers?

Absolutely!
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Post by: Sharpnel on 19 September 2016, 12:01:16
<snip> but clowns are much more fun.
to kill maybe. Not to see them performing
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Post by: Fat Guy on 19 September 2016, 14:10:24
to kill maybe. Not to see them performing


 [stupid]
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 19 September 2016, 15:08:18
Maybe I can get one question on the Spotlight On The Crescent Hawks...
Is this gonna be comparable to one of the following in it's scope:
The Foxes' Teeth
More Tales of The Black Widow
Wolf's Dragoons Sourcebook
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 15:10:51
Katrina Steiner

Bing! Winner, winner, chicken dinner! (Although Feenix74 gets a shout out for calling it first. Trust your gut, you were correct.)

Will there be spotlights on things other than gaijin  money soldiers?

Yes. One of the forthcoming entries is from the NuCom Guard, while others are either affiliated with the Great Houses & Clans. One particular unit I'm very excited to see is Clan.

To answer your other question, there is also a great variety of units in the composition sections. Keep in mind that the smaller the Spotlight unit the more era coverage they received. So for the Crescent Hawks we're able to "phonebook" most of their career. For some of the larger Spotlight On units you may only see two distinct eras highlighted.

Maybe I can get one question on the Spotlight On The Crescent Hawks...
Is this gonna be comparable to one of the following in it's scope:
The Foxes' Teeth
More Tales of The Black Widow
Wolf's Dragoons Sourcebook

Hi Tymer, you're going to have to be more specific. I'm not exactly what you mean by scope?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 September 2016, 15:38:17
No, they will not be the same scope as any of those books.
I'll give you a couple of comparative ways to think about it.


And then instead of just capturing a snapshot of the unit at one time, each could potentially cover up to three.
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 15:41:20
What he said.  O0
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 19 September 2016, 15:42:45
And the award for the Spokespeople of BattleTech goes to... thanks guys

Edit special thanks Knightmare for making this thread interesting for a change
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 15:53:53
Lets keep the train rolling shall we. A little more Crescent Hawk trivia and a few more product questions answered.

I'll toss a softball, but it's a two-parter.

First, where was Jeremiah Youngblood held captive by the Draconis Combine, and from what planet was he captured?
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 19 September 2016, 16:04:46
Captive Dieron?

Captured Al'Nir?
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 19 September 2016, 16:07:12
captured on Pacifica.
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 16:26:57
captured on Pacifica.

Also known as?
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Post by: Pat Payne on 19 September 2016, 16:32:25
Also known as?

Chara III
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 19 September 2016, 16:57:28
No, they will not be the same scope as any of those books.
I'll give you a couple of comparative ways to think about it.

  • Picture just taking a regiment section from the Wolves Dragoons Sourcebook, and adding a brief history/overview section and some tracks/scenarios.
  • Picture the Wilson's Hussars writeup from the original Mercenary Handbook, add in some tracks and AS/SBF/ACS stats (where applicable)
  • Picture the old unit books like Fox's Teeth, but condensed to about 1-2 pages per relevant section
And then instead of just capturing a snapshot of the unit at one time, each could potentially cover up to three.

So it'll be closer to More Tales of the Black Widow in it's scope. MTotBW covered the Widows from post-4SW through the start of the Clan Invasion and then Natasha's Cluster through part of the invasion. It also included stats for Natasha's Widowmaker custom and Phelan's Clan-tweaked Wolfhound.

That's cool.
While I never played either of the PC games the Hawks originated from, this should be a interesting one to pick up.
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 16:58:12
Well done gentlemen.  [notworthy]

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Post by: Dragon Cat on 19 September 2016, 17:08:01
Since we're in a sort of Q&A about the Spotlight Series first you've pretty much sold me on it either way but will they include things like unique equipment used by the unit?  I'm not expecting a mini TRO but I mean a unique CO ride or a support vehicle known to be used by them
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Post by: bobthecoward on 19 September 2016, 17:26:59
Bing! Winner, winner, chicken dinner! (Although Feenix74 gets a shout out for calling it first. Trust your gut, you were correct.)

Yes. One of the forthcoming entries is from the NuCom Guard, while others are either affiliated with the Great Houses & Clans. One particular unit I'm very excited to see is Clan.

To answer your other question, there is also a great variety of units in the composition sections. Keep in mind that the smaller the Spotlight unit the more era coverage they received. So for the Crescent Hawks we're able to "phonebook" most of their career. For some of the larger Spotlight On units you may only see two distinct eras highlighted.

Hi Tymer, you're going to have to be more specific. I'm not exactly what you mean by scope?

Follow up on the picking mechs.

What was your process? How did you like it.

I feel like if I picked mechs for an official product it would be like the film high fidelity....or crippling paralysis.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 September 2016, 18:28:49
Since we're in a sort of Q&A about the Spotlight Series first you've pretty much sold me on it either way but will they include things like unique equipment used by the unit?  I'm not expecting a mini TRO but I mean a unique CO ride or a support vehicle known to be used by them
No.
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Post by: ActionButler on 19 September 2016, 18:37:48
Follow up on the picking mechs.

What was your process? How did you like it.

I feel like if I picked mechs for an official product it would be like the film high fidelity....or crippling paralysis.

At the risk of this becoming an Ask the Writers/Developers thread, I would actually be really interested in hearing more about this topic, as well.
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 21:01:05
I feel like if I picked mechs for an official product it would be like the film high fidelity....or crippling paralysis.

I'm sure it felt like that for some of the authors.  ;)

To be honest, it was the one part of my Spotlight On I spent the most time on.

Typically, the writers select the designs used for their Spotlight, after which the document is vetted by the fact checking staff, and ultimately signed off on by the MUL team. We take our unit selections very seriously. 

Also, each Spotlight On includes Strategic BattleForce stats & Alpha Strike cards, making the product usable across rule or game type.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 19 September 2016, 21:08:19
Will we find out what happened to the Crescent Hawks' Phoenix Hawk LAM?
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 September 2016, 21:26:14
Maybe.  O0
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Post by: Feenix74 on 19 September 2016, 22:18:13
Bing! Winner, winner, chicken dinner! (Although Feenix74 gets a shout out for calling it first. Trust your gut, you were correct.)

Bugger, bugger, bugger!

Yep, should have gone with the first gut instinct instead of trying to second guess myself.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 19 September 2016, 22:21:00
I'm sure it felt like that for some of the authors.  ;)

To be honest, it was the one part of my Spotlight On I spent the most time on.

Typically, the writers select the designs used for their Spotlight, after which the document is vetted by the fact checking staff, and ultimately signed off on by the MUL team. We take our unit selections very seriously. 

Also, each Spotlight On includes Strategic BattleForce stats & Alpha Strike cards, making the product usable across rule or game type.

If I am being pedantic, tell me to stop....but what kind of approach did you use? How do you balance rarity and coolness?
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 19 September 2016, 22:22:35
Will we find out what happened to the Crescent Hawks' Phoenix Hawk LAM?

Programmable Toaster Ovens.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 20 September 2016, 00:06:10
Will we find out what happened to the Crescent Hawks' Phoenix Hawk LAM?

It was stolen by some kid named Hick Runter and taken on a joyride through some town called Lycross. Unfortunately for him there was a battle going on between a lance of Warhammers and some weird looking Ostol variants.
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Post by: Feenix74 on 20 September 2016, 01:43:35
Nah that cannot be right, I am sure that Hick Runter stole a Stinger LAM . . .
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Post by: VhenRa on 20 September 2016, 02:06:56
Though, I am pretty sure he did fail a PSR again and totalled it, again.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 20 September 2016, 02:35:29
Nah that cannot be right, I am sure that Hick Runter stole a Stinger LAM . . .

Nope, it was a prototype 2-seater LAM, the head in battroid 'mech mode is totally different to the Wasp/Phoenix Hawk or Stinger LAMs
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Post by: ActionButler on 20 September 2016, 05:35:02
It was stolen by some kid named Hick Runter and taken on a joyride through some town called Lycross. Unfortunately for him there was a battle going on between a lance of Warhammers and some weird looking Ostol variants.

And, after that, he was promoted to Admiral.
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Post by: mbear on 20 September 2016, 06:48:23
And, after that, he was promoted to Admiral.
Thus proving that the Hogarth effect can be found on many planets.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 September 2016, 08:25:21
If I am being pedantic, tell me to stop....but what kind of approach did you use? How do you balance rarity and coolness?

Well, the first step is era and unit composition. For the Davion Assault Guards in 3025 both the Stinger and Devastator are non-starters. Once I've got that narrowed down, look for past references that have specific 'Mechs noted then throw in a few fun ones and use some faction stereotypes to fill things out.
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Post by: ActionButler on 20 September 2016, 09:20:36
then throw in a few fun ones and use some faction stereotypes to fill things out.

How do you deal with someone else's faction-specific mech in those instances?  Since Battletech has always been about 'use whatever designs you want because salvage', what kind of room is there for adding, for example, a Zeus or a Dragon to a pre-alliance Davion Guards? 
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Post by: Knightmare on 20 September 2016, 09:34:42
Well, the first step is era and unit composition. For the Davion Assault Guards in 3025 both the Stinger and Devastator are non-starters. Once I've got that narrowed down, look for past references that have specific 'Mechs noted then throw in a few fun ones and use some faction stereotypes to fill things out.

Basically what he said.

How do you deal with someone else's faction-specific mech in those instances?  Since Battletech has always been about 'use whatever designs you want because salvage', what kind of room is there for adding, for example, a Zeus or a Dragon to a pre-alliance Davion Guards? 

Weave story and game play into their addition.

Typically there's usually some room for era-correct designs—the Inner Sphere is constantly in conflict for the most part—with some exceptions. Unique character rides, unit histories, even Tracks can help justify an odd-ball design in the ranks if there's a reason for it being there. There's always the BattleTech "reality" check, but that comes after you've made the selection.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 20 September 2016, 09:49:11
I've always believed that half the fun of something like that is to come up with the reasoning. Zeus in the Davion Assault Guards before the alliance? Well, here's how that happened, see Lou sucks at blackjack so we kept betting against him one night, pretty soon one thing lead to another and we're betting pink slips for our Mechs against some jackhole from a merc company...

I've seen a successful explanation from someone about how they got a Thunder Stallion into the 'Juggernaut' regiment from the FWL. Farfetched, for sure, but he did a good job of writing it up. In the process of doing that, you change your unit from a collection of stats on a sheet into a real flesh-and-blood unit with history, personalities, etc., and that's a lot of fun more often than not.
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Post by: ColBosch on 20 September 2016, 09:53:17
Will we find out what happened to the Crescent Hawks' Phoenix Hawk LAM?

It's sitting on my desk.
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Post by: ActionButler on 20 September 2016, 10:13:31
It's sitting on my desk.

You have a desk that can fit an entire Phoenix Hawk?
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Post by: The Eagle on 20 September 2016, 10:32:23
You have a desk that can fit an entire Phoenix Hawk?

And I always figured the term "battleship of a desk" was just over-used literary hyperbole for a large desk.  I may have been wrong.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 20 September 2016, 13:52:33
So these PDF's where are they usually available from?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 September 2016, 13:53:36
The same places you get all CGL .pdf products from, BattleShop or DriveThruRPG.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 20 September 2016, 14:58:38
and the other places that sell CGL pdfs?
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Post by: Mendrugo on 20 September 2016, 15:03:45
I get mine from that guy with the trenchcoat standing on the corner.  "Hey buddy," he says, gesticulating wildly, "wanna buy a Catalyst PDF?"
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 20 September 2016, 15:11:14
Yeah, I know of at least one site that sells pdfs that isn't BC or DTRPG. Don't remember the name though...
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Post by: wantec on 20 September 2016, 15:32:06
I've always believed that half the fun of something like that is to come up with the reasoning. Zeus in the Davion Assault Guards before the alliance? Well, here's how that happened, see Lou sucks at blackjack so we kept betting against him one night, pretty soon one thing lead to another and we're betting pink slips for our Mechs against some jackhole from a merc company...

I've seen a successful explanation from someone about how they got a Thunder Stallion into the 'Juggernaut' regiment from the FWL. Farfetched, for sure, but he did a good job of writing it up. In the process of doing that, you change your unit from a collection of stats on a sheet into a real flesh-and-blood unit with history, personalities, etc., and that's a lot of fun more often than not.
That was some of my process. I looked for any other similar stories already written, whether a TRO entry, BattleCorps fiction, etc. Then if the unit would fit, I shoved it in there. Then I took some of my own favorite units, wrote my own unique backstories and shoved those into the unit. Then I added some more common filler so it would be recognized as a part of that Clan.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 20 September 2016, 15:45:47
I get mine from that guy with the trenchcoat standing on the corner.  "Hey buddy," he says, gesticulating wildly, "wanna buy a Catalyst PDF?"

That might be Weirdo.
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Post by: Weirdo on 20 September 2016, 15:58:41
Those aren't pdfs...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/da8b7108584dbbb011dcf9649ffd2147/tumblr_moyn2gASD91rm1xhko9_r1_500.gif)
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Post by: Pat Payne on 20 September 2016, 16:06:10
and the other places that sell CGL pdfs?

I usually go to T0tallyL3g17Warez.com.org.net.xxx.fnord. They have everything. Although I wonder why my virus protection has now shown a popup saying "You know what? You're on your own now. Screw you"...  [##]  :D ;D
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 20 September 2016, 16:31:37
So these PDF's where are they usually available from?
BattleShop (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/) and DrivethruRPG (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/2216/Catalyst-Game-Labs/subcategory/4328_4541/Battletech)
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Post by: Cubby on 20 September 2016, 17:54:35
Weave story and game play into their addition.

Or, in my case, there was a particular 'Mech that fit perfectly with the scrap of backstory I had to work with, and in fact inspired the basis for building out the entire unit's story...
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Post by: Daryk on 20 September 2016, 18:33:27
In the 3025 era, Anton's Revolt can account for a Marik variant practically anywhere outside the FWL.
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Post by: Wrangler on 20 September 2016, 21:56:17
You have a desk that can fit an entire Phoenix Hawk?
If his desk has a CF90 or better, it should be fine...
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Post by: truetanker on 21 September 2016, 23:44:03
I usually go to T0tallyL3g17Warez.com.org.net.xxx.fnord. They have everything. Although I wonder why my virus protection has now shown a popup saying "You know what? You're on your own now. Screw you"...  [##]  :D ;D

Your search - T0tallyL3g17Warez.com.org.net.xxx.fnord - did not match any documents.

 :-\
TT
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 22 September 2016, 07:27:50
Its on the dark web.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 22 September 2016, 11:08:18
Its on the dark web.

Nah, it's even deeper -- it's on the "Web of Insufficient Light" -- it's run by a guy named Phil who always carries a gigantic spoon anywhere he goes.  ;D
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Post by: bobthecoward on 22 September 2016, 11:30:56
We are only 4.5 months since first succession war. So it may be too soon for the next question. Has there been any word on the sequel?
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Post by: Pat Payne on 22 September 2016, 11:43:49
We are only 4.5 months since first succession war. So it may be too soon for the next question. Has there been any word on the sequel?

It sticks in my mind that in the GenCon rundown they said either Christmas or sometime early next year for it, IINM
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Post by: I am Belch II on 22 September 2016, 13:23:16
It sticks in my mind that in the GenCon rundown they said either Christmas or sometime early next year for it, IINM

2nd Succession War is coming and soon.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 23 September 2016, 21:16:12
Spotlight On close to being released?
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Post by: Wrangler on 23 September 2016, 21:39:01
I'd be just happy if the bg.battletech.com main page would get updated.  Coming attractions has too many releases and not enough coming attractions.  :D
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 23 September 2016, 22:10:43
Yeah, kinda sad when we hear about new releases here rather than the main site of the official release thread. Gimme a polka dot beamer and I will keep the release thread up to date  :crazy2:
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Post by: Knightmare on 24 September 2016, 07:53:34
Not exactly how that works, but your enthusiasm is appreciated.  O0
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Post by: bobthecoward on 24 September 2016, 10:25:10
I was thinking of the combat manuals today and how we know davion and Steiner are listed next. I think given the years the products are set, it would make sense to bypass Liao and marik for now, and go straight to invading clans.

Can they be in one sourcebook? You could probably cover all 7 invading clans on tukayyid. House Kurita had 45 pages of brigades. That could be six pages per clan. Ghost bear sent 7 but you could probably do something with xi, pi, rho, and tau.

Comstar would be a good follow up but probably too similar among armies to warrant a whole book. I think it would pair well with periphery nations. If that is too big, put the out worlds alliance and Tatiana with a comstar book, and Canopus with house Liao.
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Post by: Sartris on 24 September 2016, 10:35:52
bypass
marik


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Post by: solmanian on 24 September 2016, 10:44:36
C'mon, things happened with Marik and Liao, some of them with mechs. Not interesting things, but you know, stuff. Like the great McCarron's milk run of 42', and you can be sure that When the 1st Atrean Dragoons rotated back to Atreus it was a logistical nightmare. The blood of loyal Leaguers flowed like a river from untold paper cuts, and many sick days were taken.
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Post by: Sartris on 24 September 2016, 10:47:36
PENCIL PUSHERS OF THE INNER SPHERE UNITE
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 September 2016, 11:39:57
I wish Combat Manuel would have kept rarity list 4 the variants list the Army Book PDFs
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Post by: bobthecoward on 24 September 2016, 11:45:24
I wish Combat Manuel would have kept rarity list 4 the variants list the Army Book PDFs

I don't think that is a battletech product.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 24 September 2016, 15:23:23
I wish Combat Manuel would have kept rarity list 4 the variants list the Army Book PDFs
You mean common, uncommon, rare (which were any units not shown on the tables)?

Same deal, pretty much. Everything listed in the CMs is common, unless it has an asterisk (uncommon). If it's not on the table, it's rare for that faction (as above). That is then *further* modified by each individual command, depending who they've faced and other special circumstances.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 24 September 2016, 15:28:11
Not exactly how that works, but your enthusiasm is appreciated.  O0

Not even pink polka dots with bunny ears?? [notworthy]
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Post by: I am Belch II on 24 September 2016, 15:51:04
Will there be a combat manual for the Clans?
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Post by: bobthecoward on 24 September 2016, 15:54:38
You mean common, uncommon, rare (which were any units not shown on the tables)?

Same deal, pretty much. Everything listed in the CMs is common, unless it has an asterisk (uncommon). If it's not on the table, it's rare for that faction (as above). That is then *further* modified by each individual command, depending who they've faced and other special circumstances.

What is this army book?
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Post by: Feenix74 on 24 September 2016, 17:10:13
Fan work by our very own Ombudsman aka Emeritus Admin mr worktroll.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 24 September 2016, 17:18:41
Fan work by our very own Ombudsman aka Emeritus Admin mr worktroll.

Funny. That is what I thought but then Adrian mentioned them and I got confused. Kudos to him for acknowledging a fan project.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 24 September 2016, 18:00:16
You mean common, uncommon, rare (which were any units not shown on the tables)?

Same deal, pretty much. Everything listed in the CMs is common, unless it has an asterisk (uncommon). If it's not on the table, it's rare for that faction (as above). That is then *further* modified by each individual command, depending who they've faced and other special circumstances.

The only thing I wish the lists in the CM had was a division of availability between commands. Something along the lines of "Elite", "Front-line", "Regular", "Militia". Something to reflect the fact that not every formation within a faction is supplied equally.

But that's just me nitpicking. They are really phenomenal books. Can't wait to get my paws on the Liao one. ;)
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 September 2016, 18:23:30
You mean common, uncommon, rare (which were any units not shown on the tables)?

Same deal, pretty much. Everything listed in the CMs is common, unless it has an asterisk (uncommon). If it's not on the table, it's rare for that faction (as above). That is then *further* modified by each individual command, depending who they've faced and other special circumstances.
Yes, that what I meant.  Thankfor answering my question, Adrian.
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Post by: ActionButler on 24 September 2016, 18:28:02
Can't wait to get my paws on the Liao one. ;)

The Liao book is one that I am definitely looking forward to.  I love the first two, but there weren't a ton of surprises with them.  Especially the Kurita one.  When I think of Early Invasion DCMS, I think Panther, Jenner, Dragon, Hatamoto Chi, etc.  Fairly known quantities. 

With the CCAF, though, Raven, Cataphract, Vindicator, Catapult, ...Raven again?  I don't know. The Hunchback, sure.  The Victor and the Jager?  Probably.  I just feel like the CCAF is the state I know he least about for that time period. 

Also the Smoke Jaguars.  That will be an exremely interestig read when/if we get to it. 
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Post by: Feenix74 on 24 September 2016, 22:49:09
Warrior Trilogy give a pretty detailed narrative on how the CapCon court, intelligence apparatus and military works in the 3025-era ;)
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Post by: VhenRa on 25 September 2016, 00:57:37
Honestly, if there is any I would be most interested in (which I doubt we will get TBH) it is Periphery.

With all the uncertain details of layer after layer of adjustment between Periphery 1st, 20 Year Update, Periphery 2nd and FM: Periphery, has left a very confusing view of Periphery force strength and force organisation. (See: The Marians and their using three different field organisations in a 10 year period, with their completely different legion structure between Periphery 2nd and FM: Periphery and the way OWA Mech Strength seems to fluctuate widely between the four books.)

But failing that. The FedCom books and FWL is what I am interested in. Capellans can wait.
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Post by: Takiro on 25 September 2016, 05:30:55
Will there be a combat manual for the Clans?

I sure hope so. Both CM Mercenaries and Kurita were pleasant surprises which I was not expecting. I anxiously await the remaining Houses as well as any other factions, Has there been any news on what awaits us, especially the Clans? The Periphery? ComStar??
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Post by: solmanian on 25 September 2016, 11:48:40
The only thing I wish the lists in the CM had was a division of availability between commands. Something along the lines of "Elite", "Front-line", "Regular", "Militia". Something to reflect the fact that not every formation within a faction is supplied equally.

But that's just me nitpicking. They are really phenomenal books. Can't wait to get my paws on the Liao one. ;)
Well, the loyalty rating is a rough analogue. Fanatical commands gets first pick, while disloyal commands can be barely considered to be in the supply chain beyond being dumping ground for malcontents and obsolete machines, perhaps even below certain planetary militias. I can't remember where I read it, probably one of the field manuals.

A fanatical green command will get supplied before a disloyal elite. So you have three rough tiers, based on loyalty. Presumably better trained units will get higher priority within a tier, though I reckon it's less cut and dry and more based on operational needs.

You prefer to put the best gear on the maybe less competent troops, but that you know will die for you, than in the hands of the battletested, and battleworn, troops that are one bad day from defecting...
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Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2016, 11:51:51
Loyalty ratings are not a thing in the Combat Manuals, so you're probably remembering a different book or series.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 25 September 2016, 12:05:08
I sure hope so. Both CM Mercenaries and Kurita were pleasant surprises which I was not expecting. I anxiously await the remaining Houses as well as any other factions, Has there been any news on what awaits us, especially the Clans? The Periphery? ComStar??

Just from reading the crunch sections of the book (especially on Force building), I'm guessing they'll make anywhere from 7 to 12 Combat Manuals.

How I figure is that they've mentioned the following Availability Lists players can access:

all five Great Houses
Rasalhague (in CM:K)
Mercs
Wolf's Dragoons (in CM:M)
Star League: Regular
Star League: Royal
Clan Wolf
Clan Jade Falcon
Clan Ghost Bear
Clan Smoke Jaguar
Clan Nova Cat

Which seems to point to the following scenarios:

1. All five houses, Mercs (both of which have been completely confirmed will happen or have already happened), Star League, and a book for each of the five important Invading Clans (Sorry, Hell's Horses fans...)
2. As above, but only one omnibus book for the invading clans and a book for the Star League
3. As above, but the Star League lists in the Clan book (Operation KLONDIKE and all that)

I'm guessing option 3 would be most cost-effective and the least risk, so that might be the option they'd go for, outside of a wild-card option 4 where one or more of the fan-favorite invading Clans gets a Manual all to its own with the others omnibussed out.
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Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2016, 12:10:54
I think it's slightly more likely that we get a single Clan CM, with availability tables that start with "Clan General" and then moves to much smaller Clan specific lists.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 25 September 2016, 12:11:30
Concerning the Clans it might be best to have a CM for Invader Clans and one for Homeworld Clans.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 25 September 2016, 12:21:40
Invader and Homeworld clans would be neat to see all by it self. I wouldn't mind seeing a WoB or a Star League Historical!!
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Post by: bobthecoward on 25 September 2016, 12:23:28
I would make a bet we don't see home world clans.
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Post by: Wrangler on 25 September 2016, 12:24:16
Invader and Homeworld clans would be neat to see all by it self. I wouldn't mind seeing a WoB or a Star League Historical!!
Wasn't there enough source books cover that already?
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 September 2016, 13:00:29
I'm betting a single book on the initial six Invading Clans (plus maybe the Diamond Sharks). There's a LOT of overlap in equipment usage, and if it's broken down by Galaxies - which makes sense, given the focus on regiments in the IS volumes - you'd have to lump them all together to get a full book. There's even very little difference in equipment and organization between 3025 and 3049, so you could get away with just one big list of units with perhaps a notation for the few units that were introduced in those twenty-odd years.

I wouldn't count on a Homeworlds Clan book, not for a while.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 25 September 2016, 13:17:40
I would make a bet we don't see home world clans.
Well the reason why I hope for this, is that if we have both, then it becomes easy to change the composition of the Invader Clans (for a player AU). Very useful for game masters.
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 September 2016, 13:37:32
Well the reason why I hope for this, is that if we have both, then it becomes easy to change the composition of the Invader Clans (for a player AU). Very useful for game masters.

If you're that "advanced," you don't need such a book, to be brutally honest. The Combat Manuals are mostly meant for newer players, those who haven't explored that deeply into the universe.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 25 September 2016, 13:46:28
If you're that "advanced," you don't need such a book, to be brutally honest. The Combat Manuals are mostly meant for newer players, those who haven't explored that deeply into the universe.

The main point one could argue you'd need canon details would be a faction list- which can be provided by the MUL, of course, and a list of which Command Abilities are available to which Clusters, which can likely be intuited from fluff details and Field Manual entries, or be provided via a supplemental PDF rather than a full book.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 25 September 2016, 13:47:23
If you're that "advanced," you don't need such a book, to be brutally honest. The Combat Manuals are mostly meant for newer players, those who haven't explored that deeply into the universe.
How is it advanced? Playing around is quite normal.
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 September 2016, 14:52:18
If you're that "advanced," you don't need such a book, to be brutally honest. The Combat Manuals are mostly meant for newer players, those who haven't explored that deeply into the universe.

I'd say that was unnecessarily limiting to the Combat Manuals.  Everybody is in such a hurry to say it's not for somebody, it's like you don't want us to sell these things :).
Its only for players born on Thursdays under a new moon while the cicadas are out.
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Post by: solmanian on 25 September 2016, 15:00:58
I'm betting a single book on the initial six Invading Clans (plus maybe the Diamond Sharks). There's a LOT of overlap in equipment usage, and if it's broken down by Galaxies - which makes sense, given the focus on regiments in the IS volumes - you'd have to lump them all together to get a full book. There's even very little difference in equipment and organization between 3025 and 3049, so you could get away with just one big list of units with perhaps a notation for the few units that were introduced in those twenty-odd years.

I wouldn't count on a Homeworlds Clan book, not for a while.
Equipment is a very small part of the CMs, with most of the page count being Lore and unit write-ups, which are quite enjoyable. And there isn't much overlap in that regard. I could definitely see each clan having at least four mechs that can be considered "theirs", even if other clans have them in varying numbers.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 25 September 2016, 15:02:46
I'd say that was unnecessarily limiting to the Combat Manuals.  Everybody is in such a hurry to say it's not for somebody, it's like you don't want us to sell these things :).
Its only for players born on Thursdays under a new moon while the cicadas are out.

Check... check... damn, I missed the cicadas.  :'(
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Post by: ActionButler on 25 September 2016, 15:15:41
Well the reason why I hope for this, is that if we have both, then it becomes easy to change the composition of the Invader Clans (for a player AU). Very useful for game masters.

That would be a good reason to have a Homeworld Clan book, I'll grant you, but since the Four -> Six -> Seven Invaders were pretty much the only Clans of note during the Early Invasion period, I juat don't see it happening. 

Or the Clan book could just be a bigger book.  I mean, as has been said, there is a lot of overlap in the Clan Toumans.  You could probably outfit most everyone just using the sixteen TRO3050 omnis plus the various IICs, Royals, and "C" variants. 
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 September 2016, 15:21:21
Check... check... damn, I missed the cicadas.  :'(

I figured I needed them in there :).

On the subject of upcoming releases and Comgat Manuals, I wonder what could be said about CM: Davion.  I mean, I (hopefully) know some answers, I just don't have any questions.  Anybody got any? :)
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 September 2016, 15:23:48
I'd say that was unnecessarily limiting to the Combat Manuals.  Everybody is in such a hurry to say it's not for somebody, it's like you don't want us to sell these things :).
Its only for players born on Thursdays under a new moon while the cicadas are out.

Yikes, guys, put the pitchforks away! I've been buying the CMs and enjoying them, too!

I just meant that if you're experienced with the game and universe enough to consider things like "different invading Clans," then you're probably knowledgeable enough to not need a Combat Manual for the task.

(And by the way, ****** cicadas, or as I like to call them, "Nature's vuvuzelas." Chicago has been notably quieter since they all died a couple weeks ago.)

I figured I needed them in there :).

On the subject of upcoming releases and Comgat Manuals, I wonder what could be said about CM: Davion.  I mean, I (hopefully) know some answers, I just don't have any questions.  Anybody got any? :)

Dragonslayers. Do they appear?
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Post by: NeonKnight on 25 September 2016, 15:48:54
On the subject of upcoming releases and Comgat Manuals, I wonder what could be said about CM: Davion.  I mean, I (hopefully) know some answers, I just don't have any questions.  Anybody got any? :)

First Question - WHEN?  [drool]

second Question - What's Next?
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 September 2016, 15:59:30
First Question - WHEN?  [drool]

second Question - What's Next?

When: next (as far as combat Manuals go).  I can't be more specific than that.

Next?  That's not actually a question about CM: Davion, disqualified. :)
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Post by: NeonKnight on 25 September 2016, 16:02:07
When: next (as far as combat Manuals go).  I can't be more specific than that.

Next?  That's not actually a question about CM: Davion, disqualified. :)

Aww.... :(

But those all the questions I got. I love these books, want them all (especially a WoB/Comstar one  [drool] [drool] [drool] [drool])

Fine, how about:

What is the Mech and represented Unit on the Cover?
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Post by: Scotty on 25 September 2016, 16:20:28
I heard Christmastime, and the unit on the cover is a bit of a tricky one.

It's Hanse Davion defending the NAIS, complete with detached-arm club.  It's painted in Davion Brigade of Guards colors.
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Post by: ColBosch on 25 September 2016, 16:26:19
I just remembered that the Dragonslayers were wiped out in the early Succession Wars. Dammit.

Oh, will there be a picture of Hanse Davion holding Max Liao in a headlock?

I heard Christmastime, and the unit on the cover is a bit of a tricky one.

It's Hanse Davion defending the NAIS, complete with detached-arm club.  It's painted in Davion Brigade of Guards colors.

Ooo, right, we saw a photo of the pre-final from GenCon. I sometimes wonder how well ol' Hanse would've fared had those been real Death Commandos; after all, it only took a company of Liao's least worst to take down Kai Allard-Liao. (Granted, Kai was elderly and suffering from dementia...)
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Post by: bobthecoward on 25 September 2016, 17:03:07
When: next (as far as combat Manuals go).  I can't be more specific than that.

Next?  That's not actually a question about CM: Davion, disqualified. :)

Does the davion book get the FedCom RCTs?

The writer for House Kurita mentioned they got to resolve the canon conflict on the Amphigean LAG regiments. Did you get to mKe any canon contributions like that?
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Post by: Deadborder on 25 September 2016, 17:19:24
I'd like to know what Classics are in it. I'm betting on the Valkyrie, Rifleman and Marauder myself
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Post by: ActionButler on 25 September 2016, 17:49:56
I'd like to know what Classics are in it. I'm betting on the Valkyrie, Rifleman and Marauder myself

I would be exceedingly surprised if those three weren't included.  Maybe one of the other Osts, too?  Just to get it out of the way?
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Post by: JadedFalcon on 25 September 2016, 18:03:26
Will the Triple-F franchise get its own sidebar?  :)
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 25 September 2016, 19:07:26
I'd like to know what Classics are in it. I'm betting on the Valkyrie, Rifleman and Marauder myself
Well the VLK-QA Valkyrie was covered in First Succession War. So if CM:Davion includes one, it would have to be a later version.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 25 September 2016, 19:17:46
Check... check... damn, I missed the cicadas.  :'(

and that's why you need to deploy Thunder munitions.  Most of the little buggers can't Jump away.
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Post by: nckestrel on 25 September 2016, 21:17:28
I'd like to know what Classics are in it. I'm betting on the Valkyrie, Rifleman and Marauder myself

I don't think I want to answer that one just yet.  So instead I'll say there are several unique mechwarriors with Valkyries.  And at least one with a Rifleman and at least one with a Marauder. *

*Standard disclaimer on any not yet released product, Final results may vary.

Will the Triple-F franchise get its own sidebar?  :)
The Triple-F franchise has it's own sidebar, in their stores.  There's no sidebar for them in CM: Davion.  The Federated Suns has not (yet) weaponized the Triple-F franchise (in the Combat Manual's time frame).

The writer for House Kurita mentioned they got to resolve the canon conflict on the Amphigean LAG regiments. Did you get to mKe any canon contributions like that?
The majority of the interesting writing (and overall word count) is done by Geoff Swift, for all the Combat Manauls so far (and for Davion).  Usually my job, in addition to the rules writing, is to take Geoff's ideas and make sure they work rules wise and try to keep them balanced (against some sort of overall guidelines).  For example, most of the new command abilities' are Geoff's ideas and sometimes he has the rules from the beginning, sometimes they need a bit of a tweak, and sometimes I make the rules for them. And then Ray keeps us in line and tweaks/fills in where he wants parts of it to go (along with all the non-writing work).
I worry I should have reigned in the Kestrel Grenadiers' unique mechwarrior, but you've still got to pay for that thing (82 PV!)

Oh, will there be a picture of Hanse Davion holding Max Liao in a headlock?
I haven't seen any of the CM: Davion artwork that everybody else hasn't already seen. So...maybe? :)
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Post by: mbear on 26 September 2016, 06:31:41
I just remembered that the Dragonslayers were wiped out in the early Succession Wars. Dammit.

The mercenary unit was wiped out in the Succession Wars? Huh? Did you mean the Dragonlords?
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 26 September 2016, 07:47:53
The mercenary unit was wiped out in the Succession Wars? Huh? Did you mean the Dragonlords?

That sounds right. I know the Dragonslayers were in FM: Mercs, though not sure how they fared in the Jihad later. They certainly were around in the Civil War era though (in the FWL, or something like that? My books aren't handy)
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Post by: ActionButler on 26 September 2016, 08:11:56
I don't think I want to answer that one just yet.  So instead I'll say there are several unique mechwarriors with Valkyries.  And at least one with a Rifleman and at least one with a Marauder. *

Well, it stands to reason that there is going to be a little bit of overlap no matter what happens. 

There are only, what, 22 unseen Inner Sphere mechs?  If the Classics just refresh those designs, AND the Combat manuals include four Classics each, AND both of the Succession Wars books include some Classics designs, AND each of the five major Inner Sphere houses gets their own book, then some things are going to have to show up more than once. 
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Post by: sadlerbw on 26 September 2016, 14:34:55
I don't think I want to answer that one just yet.  So instead I'll say there are several unique mechwarriors with Valkyries.  And at least one with a Rifleman and at least one with a Marauder. *

That question came up at the GenCon panel this year and the answer that was given was: BattleMaster, Valkyrie, Marauder, Rifleman. I suppose that could change, but that seems like a good list so I wouldn't expect it to.
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Post by: nckestrel on 26 September 2016, 14:57:44
Hmm.  Maybe two teasers.
Each House gets their own, unique Special Command Ability that is an available choice to any of its own armies, but not to anyone else.  For Kurita, it was Warrior Code.  For Davion, it is Cavalry.

And there are new Special Pilot Abilities as well.  One of them is Float Like a Butterfly.  (There's no Sting Like a Bee, at least so far.)
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Post by: Deadborder on 26 September 2016, 16:33:13
That question came up at the GenCon panel this year and the answer that was given was: BattleMaster, Valkyrie, Marauder, Rifleman. I suppose that could change, but that seems like a good list so I wouldn't expect it to.

The Battlemaster was in CM: Kurita
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 26 September 2016, 16:51:22
The Battlemaster was in CM: Kurita

That doesn't mean it can't also be in CM: Davion.  The Locust, Wasp and Wolverine were in First Succession War despite being in Combat Manuals as well, so there is a precedent.
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Post by: Sartris on 26 September 2016, 17:19:36
counting the Valkyrie (also in 1stSW), Marauder, and Rifleman, that leaves 11 of the original 22 unseen that haven't been featured in combat manuals. With at least Marik, Liao, and Steiner left (plus comstar and maybe periphery?), there are going to be repeats if they stick to four per CM.
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Post by: ColBosch on 26 September 2016, 17:33:59
The mercenary unit was wiped out in the Succession Wars? Huh? Did you mean the Dragonlords?

That's exactly who I meant, sorry.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 26 September 2016, 17:36:29
counting the Valkyrie (also in 1stSW), Marauder, and Rifleman, that leaves 11 of the original 22 unseen that haven't been featured in combat manuals. With at least Marik, Liao, and Steiner left (plus comstar and maybe periphery?), there are going to be repeats if they stick to four per CM.
Well there are still some 3055 unseens and the LAMs that could be added if needed.
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Post by: Wrangler on 26 September 2016, 18:24:47
We also have the IIC versions. Which i hope will be in TRO: Golden Century.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 26 September 2016, 18:27:45
We also have the IIC versions. Which i hope will be in TRO: Golden Century.
Nope. Won't see IIC redesigns in the "near" future.
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Post by: Flaresnake on 26 September 2016, 20:39:12
We also have the IIC versions. Which i hope will be in TRO: Golden Century.

do we have any idea whats going to be in it that isn't just speculation?
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Post by: Knightmare on 26 September 2016, 21:07:11
do we have any idea whats going to be in it that isn't just speculation?

Not at this time.

I may confirm some designs as we get closer.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 27 September 2016, 04:11:27
We also have the IIC versions. Which i hope will be in TRO: Golden Century.

I hope so, I would like to see more versions of the refits.
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Post by: Deadborder on 27 September 2016, 07:47:40
That doesn't mean it can't also be in CM: Davion.  The Locust, Wasp and Wolverine were in First Succession War despite being in Combat Manuals as well, so there is a precedent.

True, though I figured different product lines and stuff
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Post by: Cache on 27 September 2016, 08:11:15
Nope. Won't see IIC redesigns in the "near" future.
So... does "near" mean a particular time-frame in the BattleTech universe, or are you describing real time? :)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 September 2016, 09:07:13
So... does "near" mean a particular time-frame in the BattleTech universe, or are you describing real time? :)

Yes!
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 27 September 2016, 09:10:42
What I mean is—and you can see why the language is imprecise—that there are either any scheduled nor in-development projects where those designs fit (and I'll throw in the caveat 'or where we have the time or resources to include them').
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Post by: RotS fan on 27 September 2016, 11:33:32
Website and "Coming Soon" page were finally updated! yay!

The current list:
Quote
Shadows of Faith, by Loren L. Coleman (Novel)
Combat Manual: Steiner
Case White, by Victor Milan (Novel)
Combat Manual: Davion
Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars II (E-Publication)
Record Sheets: Prototypes Unabridged (E-Publication)
Kell Hounds Ascendant: Three Short Novels by Michael A. Stackpole (Novel)
The Second Succession War
Technical Readout: Golden Century (E-Publication)
Technical Readout: IrregularTech (E-Publication)
ilClan

nothing new, but I'm glad to see ilClan getting closer and closer to the top
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Post by: ActionButler on 27 September 2016, 12:52:55
Nope. Won't see IIC redesigns in the "near" future.

If anyone needs me, I'll be loudly sobbing in the corner. 
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 27 September 2016, 12:53:45
If anyone needs me, I'll be loudly sobbing in the corner.

Pass some kleenex, son...  :'(
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Post by: bobthecoward on 27 September 2016, 12:56:48
Website and "Coming Soon" page were finally updated! yay!

The current list:
nothing new, but I'm glad to see ilClan getting closer and closer to the top

We also get new description text and now have the size of the future TROs. 25 units.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 27 September 2016, 12:59:11
Great stuff. Like all those TRO's
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Post by: Maingunnery on 27 September 2016, 13:05:35
If anyone needs me, I'll be loudly sobbing in the corner.
I will join....   :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: kurtl000 on 27 September 2016, 14:02:56
I will join....   :'( :'( :'( :'(
what about wailing and screaming in the fetal position?
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 September 2016, 21:30:18
What heck is going be in there? Golden Century would be exactly where those IICs should be. Sad.

Well, I hope Record Sheets: 3150 Unabridge gets on the list too.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 27 September 2016, 22:07:44
So why does the latest release page still list Campaign Companion as well as Campaign Operations?? ???
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Post by: VhenRa on 27 September 2016, 23:24:52
Honestly, I just thought of something in Combat Manual: Steiner which will be mildly interesting which didn't really get covered before.. and what we have is after they were restructured anyway.


The Lyran March Militia units.
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Post by: wantec on 28 September 2016, 08:09:35
What heck is going be in there? Golden Century would be exactly where those IICs should be. Sad.

Well, I hope Record Sheets: 3150 Unabridge gets on the list too.
There are a number of designs that have been discussed in products that come from the Golden Century that haven't been in a TRO before. For example, TechManual mentions the Minx, Fox, and Vision Quest 'Mechs. The Scylla TRO entry mentions the Storm Giant 'Mech. There's more than that out there, but those are a few examples off the top of my head.
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Post by: Knightmare on 28 September 2016, 08:42:18
What heck is going be in there? Golden Century would be exactly where those IICs should be. Sad.

Not sure why you'd want to see rehashed material in a new book?...
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Post by: Weirdo on 28 September 2016, 09:43:24
We wants the pictures...precious, precious pictures...
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Post by: The Eagle on 28 September 2016, 10:00:18
I've said this before, but I'll reiterate : for TROGC, I just want to see a couple of the failed designs of the Spirits that led to their "stop screwing around" Mech design philosophy.  Hell, give me one and I'll be happy.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 10:32:24
Speaking of new pictures I would LOVE to see updated pictures for Warships that actually show weapons blisters etc.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 28 September 2016, 11:09:49
Not sure why you'd want to see rehashed material in a new book?...
New art, introduction stories, maybe some prototype variants. Maybe I am just a bit greedy.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 28 September 2016, 14:09:47
Speaking of new pictures I would LOVE to see updated pictures for Warships that actually show weapons blisters etc.

Maybe not exactly what you want, as it is fan-created and not cannon, but one of the members of this board has been commissioning new warship art from some of the regular BT artists, and I personally think it is turning out to be fantastic work:

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52472.msg1255135#msg1255135
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 14:21:29
Maybe not exactly what you want, as it is fan-created and not cannon, but one of the members of this board has been commissioning new warship art from some of the regular BT artists, and I personally think it is turning out to be fantastic work:

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52472.msg1255135#msg1255135
Holy crap Catalyst get on this!!!!!!!! These are beautiful. I will launch money at this!!!!!!! Does anybody know if TPTB have seen this?!?!?!?!?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 September 2016, 14:28:15
It looks great.
Aerospace, on its own, sells poorly. There's no way to justify a new TRO3057 (or the like) with all new art.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 14:53:24
It looks great.
Aerospace, on its own, sells poorly. There's no way to justify a new TRO3057 (or the like) with all new art.
Not even PDF version? :'(
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 September 2016, 14:57:34
Artists don't offer a pdf art discount(nor should they!). Most of the pdf material that is made uses minimal or a high amount of re-used art for this reason.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 28 September 2016, 15:07:15
I believe Marauder's intent is to make some sort of Fan-made PDF with these images included. I don't know if it will be a TRO, or Sourcebook style item, or something completely different, but I think it was mentioned that 'the plan' with all this art was to put it into a PDF somehow and release it as a fan project. Still not official, but very generous of Marauder, and appreciated.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 28 September 2016, 15:14:33
Artists don't offer a pdf art discount(nor should they!). Most of the pdf material that is made uses minimal or a high amount of re-used art for this reason.

I would like an April fools product that was tro art by our kids.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 September 2016, 15:16:42
I would like an April fools product that was tro art by our kids.

I think Shadowrun did something like that, where the art was all from writers.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 28 September 2016, 15:22:03
I think Shadowrun did something like that, where the art was all from writers.

Writers draw like children?
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Post by: Weirdo on 28 September 2016, 15:24:00
...he says to the writer who thought a Masakari needed a bright red mankini. ;D
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Post by: Mendrugo on 28 September 2016, 15:31:33
I would like an April fools product that was tro art by our kids.

So you're looking for something like this, but with notebook paper lines?

(http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/2/26751/657774-battlete4.jpg)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 September 2016, 15:43:52
Writers draw like children?

Well, in my case that would be an insult to children.
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Post by: solmanian on 28 September 2016, 15:52:39
Honestly, I just thought of something in Combat Manual: Steiner which will be mildly interesting which didn't really get covered before.. and what we have is after they were restructured anyway.


The Lyran March Militia units.
I was under the impression that the Lyran March Militias were simply copy pasta of the Davion versions. The only difference being the Lyran version were full RCTs with three armor regiments, while the Davion militias usually had two.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 28 September 2016, 17:45:33
It looks great.
Aerospace, on its own, sells poorly. There's no way to justify a new TRO3057 (or the like) with all new art.

I'd be happy with just having corrected RS for all the ships...
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 28 September 2016, 17:47:17
I think Shadowrun did something like that, where the art was all from writers.
Man, can you imagine the dumpster-napalm that would have erupted if there'd been an April Fools' TRO for 'Unseen' with new art drawn by all the writers.  Especially timing it with the announcement of the Classics re-drawing and retcon...
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Post by: YingJanshi on 28 September 2016, 17:54:55
Man, can you imagine the dumpster-napalm that would have erupted if there'd been an April Fools' TRO for 'Unseen' with new art drawn by all the writers.  Especially timing it with the announcement of the Classics re-drawing and retcon...

I still say they should have made the initial announcement on April 1st: no one would have been able to tell if it was serious or not... ;D
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 17:57:05
I believe Marauder's intent is to make some sort of Fan-made PDF with these images included. I don't know if it will be a TRO, or Sourcebook style item, or something completely different, but I think it was mentioned that 'the plan' with all this art was to put it into a PDF somehow and release it as a fan project. Still not official, but very generous of Marauder, and appreciated.
If marauder wanted to, could it be made official?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 September 2016, 18:25:41
Nope.
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Post by: Weirdo on 28 September 2016, 18:47:30
If marauder wanted to, could it be made official?

If it's ever been posted in the fan sections, it can never be made official.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 18:50:12
If it's ever been posted in the fan sections, it can never be made official.
Oh i remember now.....oh well.
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Post by: truetanker on 28 September 2016, 18:50:47
What if we paid you Adrian?

TT
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Post by: Daryk on 28 September 2016, 18:54:42
Adrian's not the one that needs to be paid.  You'd need to set up a trust to pay all the aspiring artists and writers in the future that would be shown they can get their start in the fan forums here.  That's an essentially infinite amount of money and exactly why no company that wants to last would never do it.
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Post by: Maingunnery on 28 September 2016, 18:57:29
It's more of a legal issue. To be save, if it hasn't been commissioned and paid for by them, then CGL won't use it.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 September 2016, 19:26:08
So commission this CGL come on chop chop! JK well........sorta. We need pretty warships and we have coin. All you need is to provide the wares.
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Post by: Wrangler on 28 September 2016, 19:30:23
Lets drop this. Its not getting us anywhere.

So Irregular Tech TRO is closer becoming a reality?  Will it include Record Sheets?
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Post by: Cache on 28 September 2016, 19:37:02
If it's ever been posted in the fan sections, it can never be made official.
The Kraken XR may begin to differ.
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Post by: ColBosch on 29 September 2016, 00:03:25
Who wants some ****** STACKPOLE!?

http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/151086185471/stackpole-legends
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Post by: bobthecoward on 29 September 2016, 00:04:17
Updated tumblr post announcing blood of Kerensky.

Is Randall bills from Arizona? He mentioned a gaming store in Tempe I have been to and I didn't realize it had been around for almost 30 years.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 29 September 2016, 00:13:17
In honor of this re-release, I think I'll go play a round of megamek with reactor explosions turned on...roll to Stackpole!

Oh, and I'll go buy the books as well.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 29 September 2016, 00:32:39
Instead of Mind Blown, you Stackepole!
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSirS5kz1DDG0zueYB9Q6joLCJ-h67BCoRhAeP05QpFIZ7TvgRr)
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Post by: Tymers Realm on 29 September 2016, 09:10:44
Who wants some ****** STACKPOLE!?

http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/151086185471/stackpole-legends

So wait...
CGL is gonna reuse the back cover art from the original Mercs Handbook for a e-pub?
wow...
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 29 September 2016, 09:17:05
So wait...
CGL is gonna reuse the back cover art from the original Mercs Handbook for a e-pub?
wow...

They've done this for a number of e-products. Most of the cover art for the XTRO series, for example, were previously used in things like the Field Manual series.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 29 September 2016, 11:16:21
Didn't I just mention art was expensive yesterday?
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Post by: Gaiiten on 29 September 2016, 11:54:59
Didn't I just mention art was expensive yesterday?
You did. Good artist shall get paid for their work what it is worth, shall they not?
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Post by: mbear on 30 September 2016, 07:56:36
Didn't I just mention art was expensive yesterday?

Yes, but that would require us to read every post in the thread. ;)

I can't wait for TRO:Irregulars and TRO:Golden Century. Maybe we'll get stats for the Storm Giant. (Just a cool name.)
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Post by: nckestrel on 30 September 2016, 08:32:11
You did. Good artist shall get paid for their work what it is worth, shall they not?

Of course.  Miniature painters should too, but that doesn't do anything for my ability to afford professionally painted miniatures all the time.  You have to look at what it is worth to you,  compare that to what it costs.
Most PDF only products are PDF only because they are expected to have a limited sales potential.  So they have to limit costs as well. Reusing some/all art is one way to limit costs.
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Post by: Paul on 30 September 2016, 12:25:39
So commission this CGL come on chop chop! JK well........sorta. We need pretty warships and we have coin. All you need is to provide the wares.

There's not enough of you with coin.
Now, if you're willing to step up with enough coin to cover, oh, let's say 5,000 other dudes...

Of course, there's no business model that'd support that approach, just trying to illustrate the problem.

Paul
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 September 2016, 12:51:22
Just wondering: On the following scale, what's the likelihood of seeing Spotlight on: Crescent Hawks today or this coming week?

   1. It is certain
   2. It is decidedly so
   3. Without a doubt
   4. Yes, definitely
   5. You may rely on it
   6. As I see it, yes
   7. Most likely
   8. Outlook good
   9. Yes
   10. Signs point to yes
   11. Reply hazy try again
   12. Ask again later
   13. Better not tell you now
   14. Cannot predict now
   15. Concentrate and ask again
   16. Don't count on it
   17. My reply is no
   18. My sources say no
   19. Outlook not so good
   20. Very doubtful

 ;D
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Post by: sadlerbw on 30 September 2016, 13:02:20
I can live with the warship art being in a fan-produced PDF personally. Sure it would be cool if it became cannon, but I can deal with high-quality fan content. However, what about recordsheets for 3057? I don't have any concept of, given the current process, what sort of time a record sheet takes to produce, but I thought that Record Sheets and TRO's were generally the best selling category of products. It would seem that RS:3057 should be manageable.

Speaking of which, what's going on with the NTNU units from TRO:3150? Is RS:3150 NTNU ever going to be a product? Seems like to sort of thing us folks would like to buy.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 30 September 2016, 13:08:00
There's not enough of you with coin.
Now, if you're willing to step up with enough coin to cover, oh, let's say 5,000 other dudes...
Of course, there's no business model that'd support that approach, just trying to illustrate the problem.
Paul
This is understandable.

A question, could fan-produced publications be made into canon products?
Some as this from Marauder648 are of extraordinary high quality.
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Post by: Paul on 30 September 2016, 13:39:36
A question, could fan-produced publications be made into canon products?

No.
The problem is IP, ownership, contracts. And that 0.1% risk is infinitely worse than 0% risk. Doing something with a 0.1% risk every day means a huge problem every 3 years.

Paul
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 September 2016, 14:01:46
(Deleted to comply with JadeHellbringer's request.)
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 30 September 2016, 14:22:20
Not exactly.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 30 September 2016, 14:27:02
Let's not have that discussion, please.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 30 September 2016, 14:46:12
Let's not have that discussion, please.

Sorry about opening that can of worms. I've deleted the post.

On a brighter note (and back to the actual point of this thread :) ) -- I love the new crystal rules in the latest "Touring the Stars"!
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Post by: kurtl000 on 30 September 2016, 15:15:54
There's not enough of you with coin.
Now, if you're willing to step up with enough coin to cover, oh, let's say 5,000 other dudes...

Of course, there's no business model that'd support that approach, just trying to illustrate the problem.

Paul
I totally understand.  Maybe one day
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Post by: Dark Jackal on 30 September 2016, 21:35:26
Neat  O0
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Post by: Evil Imperial on 30 September 2016, 22:30:10
Huh, TtS: Tyrfing is out, no one seemed to notice.
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Post by: Wrangler on 30 September 2016, 23:08:00
No one announces this stuff anymore. Were suppose to be playing wild egg hunt for new products now...

Touring the Stars: Tyrfing - Battlecorps Link (http://Touring the Stars: Tyrfing - Battlecorps Link)
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Post by: Liam's Ghost on 30 September 2016, 23:37:42
I usually check the drive thru rpg page daily, but I'm presently without a debit card.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 October 2016, 03:57:54
A working BC link http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_35_213&products_id=3665
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Post by: VhenRa on 01 October 2016, 05:00:14
So.

Its now planet fallout? Though... this is really really tarnishing Interstellar Expeditions their actions here and a few other worlds.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 01 October 2016, 05:15:22
There's an even more direct allusion to it in the I.E. sourcebook, with a world that nuked itself into oblivion, but has a mysterious signal coming from a vault deep underground. 
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Post by: beachhead1985 on 01 October 2016, 07:29:06
No one announces this stuff anymore. Were suppose to be playing wild egg hunt for new products now...

Touring the Stars: Tyrfing - Battlecorps Link (http://Touring the Stars: Tyrfing - Battlecorps Link)

Yeah, I kind of miss the updates to the "New stuff to buy thread"
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Post by: I am Belch II on 01 October 2016, 22:08:45
Awesome new stuff.
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Post by: Wrangler on 02 October 2016, 06:57:40
This is a lively entry into the Touring the Stars, thanks for writing up, Herb!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 03 October 2016, 21:43:55
Wonder what the next title to sneak up on us will be. Hurry up Crescent Hawks!!
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Post by: Deadborder on 04 October 2016, 15:44:47
Just wanted to add my enjoyment of TTS: Tryfing to the list. That was a great read and it's brimming with fantastic ideas and material
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Post by: Euphonium on 07 October 2016, 16:36:41
Not technically a "new" release, but DriveThruRPG's sister site, DriveThruFiction has got 20% off the Legends ePubs at the moment.

https://www.drivethrufiction.com/browse.php?keywords=legends&cPath=7051_21532&x=0&y=0&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=&src=newsletter10.6.16_scottsdesk (https://www.drivethrufiction.com/browse.php?keywords=legends&cPath=7051_21532&x=0&y=0&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=&src=newsletter10.6.16_scottsdesk)
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 11 October 2016, 14:43:54
Another Tuesday another book release? Anyone??
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 11 October 2016, 17:35:06
There's no publishing schedule that says a book releases on X day of the week.  They're released when they're done, not on a timetable.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 11 October 2016, 17:45:11
Another Tuesday another book release? Anyone??

They put out that legends Tuesday would be more sporadic going forward.
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Post by: Wrangler on 11 October 2016, 20:35:07
Tumblr and Twittler only has new Shadowrun & Valiant stuff on the CGL's feeds except for talk about legends.

I have all the novels (except for Blane's Wolverine novel) so i'm not as interested those releases.

CGL does need focus on it's other properties which is important. i hope something happens before years end that interesting and new.
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Post by: Sharpnel on 12 October 2016, 00:47:23
Tumblr and Twittler only has new Shadowrun & Valiant stuff on the CGL's feeds except for talk about legends.

I have all the novels (except for Blane's Wolverine novel) so i'm not as interested those releases.

CGL does need focus on it's other properties which is important. i hope something happens before years end that interesting and new.
IMO, BT is a tertiary priority (at best) behind Shadowrun (primary) and the new Valiant line (secondary). We BT fans are following a small niche product. It may bounce up in priority following HBS' completion of the new Battletech strategy game.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 October 2016, 01:17:01
In the last 31 days there have been 11 posts on CGL's tumblr.  Of those, 6 were about BattleTech, with the other 5 about Shadowrun.

Take it out to 62 days and there's 31 posts total.  Of those 16 are BattleTech exclusive, and 3 are joint BattleTech/Shadowun. 9 are Shadowrun exclusive, and the rest are general CGL or Valiant related.

In that timeframe, there are three major Shadowrun releases, and the only big BattleTech news at the same time is the addition of Stackpole to the Legends roster.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 12 October 2016, 02:36:33
It's really sad to see this, yes.

Quote
In the last 31 days there have been 11 posts on CGL's tumblr.  Of those, 6 were about BattleTech

I looked into it:
MWO (PGI) sales stuff
ooold books (CGL)
minis (IWM)
BT review (BoW)
Computer game (HBS)
ooold books and BoIdeals (CGL) - still with the old typos
MWO (PGI)

You're right I don't see priority in product development or haha line development in the BT area. For CGL it became number 3. :(

There is mostly old stuff and new things made by other companies...

Having no LD finally got to them.

Our cheersquad will point out: Handbook Kurita, Campaign Operations, Interstellar Operations... But for me, this stuff has been in the pipeline for years and books have lingered at 90% for quite some time until release.

Combat Manuals are really nice, but not a real brainer. They are not really for newbies (look at the mechlist at the end) and not good enough for campaigns (seen victory conditions and points anyone?).

Oh yesss....Touring the frakking stars. How many people really need this? Its a goody for nerds but nothing more.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 October 2016, 02:48:29
And that's actually my point.  At a time where BattleTech doesn't have a major product out (and to be fair, there was plenty of coverage of IntOps and CampOps earlier in the year), there's still more posts about BattleTech than about the three big new Shadowrun products combined.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 12 October 2016, 02:53:48
sry, had to edit my post a bit, got into detail.

BT news yes, but CGL is just taking the news other companies produce.
These news are good for Battletech as a product, but I don't see CGL having the impact they once had when other powers were involved (5-9 years back, not 20 *G*).
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 12 October 2016, 04:41:59
sry, had to edit my post a bit, got into detail.

BT news yes, but CGL is just taking the news other companies produce.
These news are good for Battletech as a product, but I don't see CGL having the impact they once had when other powers were involved (5-9 years back, not 20 *G*).

5 years ago - in 2011 - we got 6 new sourcebooks, a hex pack and the long-delayed 25th anniversary box set.

9 years ago Fanpro released one new book and re-released MechWarrior 3rd edition with a new name and cover before dying.  Catalyst released the first iteration of the Intro Box, 3 new sourcebooks and Techmanual

This year we got 5 new books, one of which was the final core rulebook.  That's not a huge difference over the years.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 12 October 2016, 04:54:01
Well, looks like everything's fine.
 O0


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Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 October 2016, 06:30:39
Well the next BTnon-novel should be the SpotLight On which is what I am impatiently waiting on. I know CM Davion should be out soon as well unless they quietly slipped that one out and no one has noticed...

While I don't play AS I do really enjoy the CM series and the PDF price point is pretty decent for my budget. The biggest worry I have is once us old timers start dying off how many fans will be left to buy up new product and keep the line alive??
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Post by: I am Belch II on 12 October 2016, 07:08:05
No matter what product, it's never enough for some. I'm quite happy for all that Battletech produces.
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Post by: Mindwiper on 12 October 2016, 07:29:00
For new customers a new introbox is needed, which will be available for quite some time, esspecially in stores!!! , some mini boxes and nice source and force building books.

Combat Manuals are fine, but in my opinion fail to meet the target group, if there is one. The missions are no real missions, 'cause they have no real victory conditions, the mechlist in the end is overkill and nogo for new players and so on...

What CGL does at the moment does not attrackt new players or makes it easy for them to join the forces.

and yes...new shiny books came out, but what amount of manpower has been put there in 2016? Most of it was done years ago.

BT is at a point where it needs a line where it will go productwise. AS is a start, but with no LD...

Still..priority number 3 it is, not higher imho.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 12 October 2016, 07:51:20
and yes...new shiny books came out, but what amount of manpower has been put there in 2016? Most of it was done years ago.

You seem to imply that you actually know the answer to your question. Which, of course, you don't.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 12 October 2016, 07:53:26
With Halloween coming up, I wonder what (if any) Halloween-esque themed product might be released?  Or we can get a Spot Light On entry and I would be happy!

And to those who work on the line, thank you all for your hard work.  There has been some great products out this year and I have personally seen Alpha Strike bring players back into the fold as well as interest new players.  Not all of us are negative Nancys around here.

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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 12 October 2016, 07:58:07
Mindwiper, you've made your point. Thanks.
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Post by: cavingjan on 12 October 2016, 09:00:32
There was no Halloween product last year.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 12 October 2016, 09:06:16
Not all of us are negative Nancys around here.

*rummages around in the closet, finds leftover ex-wifes dress and puts it on*

I am NOT a negative Nancy! >:/!

Even if BT is the lowest priority for CGL it could be worse, we could have no one keeping the franchise alive and then who would we have to complain to about the lack of enough BT??

Quality is good, product releases are somewhat steady since I got back into it and we now have novels again. The lack of intro box and lance packs is annoying, but I know CGL is at least working on it... even if they are taking waaaaaaaay too long  :P

So thank you CGL for keeping BT alive and away from the life support machines for now  O0
That said, where is my Spot Light ON!!! I want it yesterday!!  ;D
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Post by: ActionButler on 12 October 2016, 09:25:43
I am NOT a negative Nancy! >:/!

Well, not with THAT kind of attitude. 

Seriously, though, we have 1st SW, a couple of Combat Manuals, Touring the Stars, and IO.  We know that 2nd SW is in the pipe, plus more Combat Manuals and more Touring the Stars and the Spotlight On book(s) and (dare I say) ilClan.  This has been a good year for BattleTech.  We now have the last of the core rules and CGL is hard at work filling in the timeline. 
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Post by: Empyrus on 12 October 2016, 12:29:12
Last info about IlClan was 2017, not this year. But still, this is a good year.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 12 October 2016, 13:15:06
Just got a text from Randall about his Q&A session starting shortly. He may or may not reveal some of the products we've been working on recently.
https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/4392?page=1
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Post by: CungrVanck on 12 October 2016, 15:06:14
Just got a text from Randall about his Q&A session starting shortly. He may or may not reveal some of the products we've been working on recently.
https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/4392?page=1

Good video :)

To summarize what I heard about new products (correct me if I am wrong...which I probably am!)

2nd Succession Wars out early next year
IlClan once again mentioned for next year with some comments of moving the timeline forward
Secret project in the works apparently
New Classic minis in the intro box definitely being considered
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Post by: JPArbiter on 12 October 2016, 17:17:58
any word on Combat Manual Davion?  next 15 days?  30? by end of year?
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Post by: Scotty on 12 October 2016, 17:28:41
Word from GenCon was end of the year/around Christmas.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 12 October 2016, 19:43:07
That would be the earliest, yeah.
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Post by: SCC on 13 October 2016, 02:39:41
That suggests that it coming out later is some sort of problem, or that you're trying to get it out sooner
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Post by: Kojak on 13 October 2016, 02:41:17
Any news on RS: 3150? It's been nearly 15 months now since the TRO came out, and I for one know I'm still dying to play with those NTNU designs.
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Post by: Wrangler on 13 October 2016, 09:43:41
Any news on RS: 3150? It's been nearly 15 months now since the TRO came out, and I for one know I'm still dying to play with those NTNU designs.
Well, considering that TRO: Prototypes's RS's unabridged version hasn't come out either.  I think there laundry list of stuff record sheet related that's lingering in the pipeline.  Given everything done by hand as far i know, i guess it slow goings for everything.

The discussion on HBS's forums doesn't fill me full of glee. I'm a backer of the game, but people saying there resurgence of interested in our fabled 3025 era.  Which is bad news for us who want something new to come out vs something revisited. IF CGL had more folks workin for them and could do both i'd be all for it.  However they don't as far I know.

I'll be glad something coming out that major product.  We had a banner year for good products, CampaignOps, InterOps, the CM for AS players and string of mini-and supplement PDFs.  I guess the internet age has made us less patient.  :D
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Post by: CungrVanck on 13 October 2016, 10:21:36
The discussion on HBS's forums doesn't fill me full of glee. I'm a backer of the game, but people saying there resurgence of interested in our fabled 3025 era.  Which is bad news for us who want something new to come out vs something revisited. IF CGL had more folks workin for them and could do both i'd be all for it.  However they don't as far I know.

That caught my eye as well, but I am okay with a revisiting.  Just no reboots.  Now as per Randall's conversation yesterday, they wanted to do some "What If?" products, I could go for those.  Gotta grow BattleTech, not trim it ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 13 October 2016, 14:21:12
The combat manuals are a soft reboot of sorts, set in 3050-3054 (probably better described as a partial refocusing of the timeline). There is nothing I've noticed in them that indicates they are doing away with the canon history prior to that period. A hard reboot would invalidate the work they've done so far on that series and it would have been a massive waste of limited resources to produce a series of books they have the intention of pulling support for almost immediately after their release.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 13 October 2016, 14:29:08
set in 3050-3054
Even that is fuzzy. If you had to set a hard date, they'd be set in 3049, but they cover roughly 3020-3052, so that we can cover as much as possible from the classic eras. For instance, 3049-3052 wouldn't have allowed us to (finally) take a look at the Rasalhague Regulars.
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Post by: Weirdo on 13 October 2016, 14:30:32
Please be careful with your words. Even if you didn't mean it that way, using the word 'reboot' on these forums has a tendency to make folks panic unnecessarily. ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 13 October 2016, 14:33:04
Even that is fuzzy. If you had to set a hard date, they'd be set in 3049, but they cover roughly 3020-3052, so that we can cover as much as possible from the classic eras. For instance, 3049-3052 wouldn't have allowed us to (finally) take a look at the Rasalhague Regulars.

Granted. However, they don't move past the early Clan Invasion, which is really what I was trying to get at. That they backfill into the 4thSW/3039 era gives credence to the idea that CGL has no intention of hard-rebooting the universe
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 13 October 2016, 14:39:20
Please be careful with your words. Even if you didn't mean it that way, using the word 'reboot' on these forums has a tendency to make folks panic unnecessarily. ;)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/96/84/48968452b9a653b984558c20388d25b9.gif)
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 13 October 2016, 14:43:38
Granted. However, they don't move past the early Clan Invasion, which is really what I was trying to get at. That they backfill into the 4thSW/3039 era gives credence to the idea that CGL has no intention of hard-rebooting the universe
Ah, gotcha.
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Post by: RoundTop on 13 October 2016, 14:50:41
Did someone say Reboot?

(http://speakgeekytome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Reboot.jpg)

 I loved that show!
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Post by: Jaim Magnus on 13 October 2016, 14:54:52
Did someone say Reboot?

(http://speakgeekytome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Reboot.jpg)

 I loved that show!

Ahhh, a good Canadian show.
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Post by: SCC on 13 October 2016, 20:09:45
Please be careful with your words. Even if you didn't mean it that way, using the word 'reboot' on these forums has a tendency to make folks panic unnecessarily. ;)
I don't think people are going to complain too much if it also gets rid of the FASAnomics
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 13 October 2016, 20:55:06
By removing a lot of the fine details, data and minutiae, sure.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Weirdo on 13 October 2016, 23:24:59
I don't think people are going to complain too much if it also gets rid of the FASAnomics

Ignoring the part where you're advocating throwing out much(if not all) of the story and universe that has been painstakingly built over the last thirty-odd years just because some people never heard of suspension of disbelief...

You've met the folks on this forum. Unless all the devs are fired tomorrow and replaced with actual, literal deities, there's gonna be holes in the universe, and people are gonna find those holes. And if ninety nine out of a hundred fans are just fine with stepping past the holes and enjoying the game and universe, there will always be that one guy. It is unavoidable.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 October 2016, 01:16:59
That one guy... who yells FILL THOSE HOLES!

And eventually the holes get filled and another guy says...

DOOM N GLOOM. Yeah, we know how this forum operates all right  :P
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Post by: CungrVanck on 14 October 2016, 06:41:14
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/96/84/48968452b9a653b984558c20388d25b9.gif)

Yeah, I would be guilty of that reaction when the 'r' word is used even in a completely innocent way.  Sorry about that.  Just a touchy spot with me.  I will try to rein it in, seriously :)

But, hey, its Friday, its been two weeks since the last Touring the Stars,....think we might get another planet to explore today?  Or perhaps Spotlight On?  Or perhaps the Gladiator Gazette?  My friends and I have been running a Solaris campaign recently and we are very curious about that one.
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Post by: Dmon on 14 October 2016, 06:48:46
So what are we thinking the BattleMech Manual could be?  :D
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Post by: CungrVanck on 14 October 2016, 06:53:43
So what are we thinking the BattleMech Manual could be?  :D

My guess would be that its the "All BattleMech and nothing else" Total Warfare rule book that was mentioned at GenCon.  That way everything needed to run a mech, with any tech, in any era is all in one place.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 14 October 2016, 07:04:02
But, hey, its Friday, its been two weeks since the last Touring the Stars,....think we might get another planet to explore today?  Or perhaps Spotlight On?
That was the plan, but we're pushing back to tomorrow.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 14 October 2016, 07:12:21
That was the plan, but we're pushing back to tomorrow.

Excellent!  I can wait.  But, now the question is...which one will be released?  ;)
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Post by: mbear on 14 October 2016, 07:30:42
That was the plan, but we're pushing back to tomorrow.

And since I turn off my computer on the weekends, I'll have a new product on Monday. What a great way to start the week!
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Post by: StoneRhino on 14 October 2016, 07:41:47
Ignoring the part where you're advocating throwing out much(if not all) of the story and universe that has been painstakingly built over the last thirty-odd years just because some people never heard of suspension of disbelief...

You've met the folks on this forum. Unless all the devs are fired tomorrow and replaced with actual, literal deities, there's gonna be holes in the universe, and people are gonna find those holes. And if ninety nine out of a hundred fans are just fine with stepping past the holes and enjoying the game and universe, there will always be that one guy. It is unavoidable.

Might I suggest we flog him with kittens? Even if we can't use real kittens(forum rules...) or actually flog him (....more forum rules.... :'( ) we can at least pelt him with stuffed kittens until he realizes that it Blake did not intend for him to know everything, surrender and give in to the order? >:D
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 14 October 2016, 07:53:02
So what are we thinking the BattleMech Manual could be?  :D

Well, it's actually BattleTech Manuel. It's pretty similar to Batmanuel.
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Post by: RoundTop on 14 October 2016, 09:29:56
Well, it's actually BattleTech Manuel. It's pretty similar to Batmanuel.

Battletech Manuel - 0/0 pilot with the special ability "plot armor". Manuel can only miss if the plot requires it, and any critical hits that would cripple his mech can be ignored. If Battletech Manuel leaves the cockpit, he is protected by the "author safe zone" and can only get a flesh wound. Manuel looks like he weighs 150lbs soaking wet, but can take on an elemental and win. His mech will always be customized, and he can turn the tide of any battle.

Battletech Manuel was previously published under the name Kai Allard Liao.
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Post by: Knightmare on 14 October 2016, 09:45:32
Yes, we're moving things back till tomorrow. I will post more information later today, letting everyone know what's coming. So get your wallets ready, new BattleTech is coming soon.
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Post by: Dmon on 14 October 2016, 10:53:09
Yes, we're moving things back till tomorrow. I will post more information later today, letting everyone know what's coming. So get your wallets ready, new BattleTech is coming soon.

Most beautiful post ever.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 14 October 2016, 12:04:43
My guess would be that its the "All BattleMech and nothing else" Total Warfare rule book that was mentioned at GenCon.  That way everything needed to run a mech, with any tech, in any era is all in one place.

That's what I was thinking.

No Infantry

No Aerospace

No Vehicles.

Just mechs, some more mechs, and if you really needed them...more mechs
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Post by: RotS fan on 14 October 2016, 13:39:56
That's what I was thinking.

No Infantry

No Aerospace

No Vehicles.

Just mechs, some more mechs, and if you really needed them...more mechs

Basically BattleTech: Final Destination
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Post by: Sartris on 14 October 2016, 14:34:43
Basically BattleTech: Final Destination

The Fox. No special munitions. Final Destination.
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Post by: RomulusDC on 14 October 2016, 19:18:41
More than a little curious about what is to come. Will be popping in regularly to see what becomes of this announcement in the coming hours.
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Post by: Spaceman on 14 October 2016, 20:14:41
Hey I noticed that Natural Selection is available BattleTech Legends on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006O4UKS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=153FCI6NHB60Z&coliid=I1NV4LOGF63NSQ (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006O4UKS8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=153FCI6NHB60Z&coliid=I1NV4LOGF63NSQ)

Not sure if this has been released already or if this is new.
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Post by: Wrangler on 14 October 2016, 21:40:16
I can't wait hear what BattleMech Manual is suppose to be about.  I suppose it's not like TRO but something like one.
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Post by: Knightmare on 15 October 2016, 10:16:39
Coming Today (but maybe tomorrow)...

Spotlight: Crescent Hawks

(http://bg.battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Crescent-Hawks_Spotlight.png)

For every Kell Hounds or Wolf’s Dragoons, there are a hundred similar outfits that are just as talented—and just as deadly—that you have never heard of. Or worse, you have not heard enough. Sure, the glory hounds who make the evening tri-vid news are movers and shakers, and can change national borders whenever they want, but they’re not the only ones. For every Eridani Light Horse brigade, there is a mercenary crew with a storied battlefield history just as spectacular. These are the unit commands that have gone largely unnoticed in the long, bloody history of the Inner Sphere, their stories untold or nearly forgotten. Take a closer look at the battles and events that have shaped the human sphere, and you’ll find even two-bit troops like Wilson’s Hussars have made a difference.

Product includes a Unit History, Characters, Unit Snapshots, and Mission Tracks.
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Post by: RomulusDC on 15 October 2016, 10:37:53
Is this the first of the spotight series? I'll probably grab it just to check out the format.
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Post by: Empyrus on 15 October 2016, 10:42:02
What are "unit snapshots"? Composition details in specific timeframe or...?
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Post by: Knightmare on 15 October 2016, 10:53:56
What are "unit snapshots"? Composition details in specific timeframe or...?

Yes
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Post by: SteveRestless on 15 October 2016, 10:59:52
Be interesting to see if this is a revisitation of the phonebook concept or if they've got something else in mind. I look forward to hearing from others here what it turns out to be.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 15 October 2016, 12:20:40
Looks interesting, can't wait till I get some cash coming in again so I can resume buying the books.
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Post by: Knightmare on 15 October 2016, 13:26:03
Phonebook with a twist, with the book supporting multiple rule and play types.
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Post by: Wrangler on 15 October 2016, 15:08:25
I'll be waiting for this one come out. Crescent Hawks hold special place in my heart.  Fun guys.

Specified timeline when unit being profiled?
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Post by: SteveRestless on 15 October 2016, 15:19:10
Phonebook with a twist, with the book supporting multiple rule and play types.

Surprising.
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Post by: JPArbiter on 15 October 2016, 15:45:54
I'll be waiting for this one come out. Crescent Hawks hold special place in my heart.  Fun guys.

Specified timeline when unit being profiled?

from what I understand it is far reaching, from inception to dissolution or 3150, whichever comes first
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 15 October 2016, 15:54:05
from what I understand it is far reaching, from inception to dissolution or 3150, whichever comes first
That wouldn't fit the description of a "snapshot" then.
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Post by: nckestrel on 15 October 2016, 16:14:22
That wouldn't fit the description of a "snapshot" then.

The unit snapshots are part of the product, not all of the product.  And unit snapshots was plural.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 15 October 2016, 17:11:24
from what I understand it is far reaching, from inception to dissolution or 3150, whichever comes first

I saw what you did there  ;)

One question I'd asked before -- is it likely that we'll get anything on the PHX-LAM, as the unit is key to the Hawks' mythology?
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Post by: YingJanshi on 15 October 2016, 17:35:50
I saw what you did there  ;)

One question I'd asked before -- is it likely that we'll get anything on the PHX-LAM, as the unit is key to the Hawks' mythology?

The P-Hawk LAM and all the other old school LAMs were in TRO: 3085.



And I've been throwing my wallet at the screen all day. Nothings happening...I think somethings broke... :D
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Post by: I am Belch II on 15 October 2016, 18:25:01
A snapshot version, that's pretty neat.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 15 October 2016, 19:42:48
The unit snapshots are part of the product, not all of the product.  And unit snapshots was plural.
I recline on my air bed corrected!

So will there be Classics art of the famous Crescent Hawks Phoenix Hawk LAM?
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Post by: nckestrel on 15 October 2016, 19:59:15
I recline on my air bed corrected!

So will there be Classics art of the famous Crescent Hawks Phoenix Hawk LAM?

I have no idea.  Even when I'm working on a project, I usually don't see the art till the same time everybody else does.
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Post by: Cache on 16 October 2016, 12:02:29
The P-Hawk LAM and all the other old school LAMs were in TRO: 3085.
Technically speaking, that's the MKI, not the (Unseen) PHX-HK2 that is used in the CH roster.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 16 October 2016, 12:15:21
Technically speaking, that's the MKI, not the (Unseen) PHX-HK2 that is used in the CH roster.

Technically yes, but I believe at the time TPTB said the art was also replacement for the Unseen LAMs as well, or at least as close as we were going to get. (Though of course I may be mistaken.)
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Post by: Cache on 16 October 2016, 12:21:47
Technically yes, but I believe at the time TPTB said the art was also replacement for the Unseen LAMs as well, or at least as close as we were going to get. (Though of course I may be mistaken.)

Maybe as much of a replacement as the Primitives were intended to be prior to the nuSeen announcement. I don't remember if nuSeen LAM artwork was announced, but the HKI does not resemble the HK2.
Quote from: TRO:3085, p. 300
Variants
Prior to the creation of the HK2 series—which modified the Phoenix Hawk to more closely resemble its namesake—a single variant of the HK1 was created.
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 October 2016, 13:25:37
From what HBS's Q&A thing, they Mr. Bills said that they were studying when to roll out the "other" unseens when question came up about the LAMs and IICs.

I really hope they hold off Golden Century to put the IICs inthere.  Its most commonsense place put them unless their doing Combat Manuals for the individual Clan factions (Crusaders/Warden Clans)
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Post by: Empyrus on 16 October 2016, 13:59:16
I wonder if the MechManual might include complete classic NuSeen "TRO" along with all 'Mech rules, construction rules and equipment. Would be kind of a logical place, since i doubt Second Succession War will include all the missing ones with line-art. Sort of "Next step from the introductory box set!".
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Post by: Xotl on 16 October 2016, 14:20:16
There's currently no plans to have any sort of TRO in the Manual.
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Post by: Empyrus on 16 October 2016, 14:28:08
Right. Back to waiting impatiently and trying to come up with ideas where we might see the rest/all of the classics.
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Post by: mrbooth on 16 October 2016, 14:51:56
Are we getting the spot light today or is it delayed again?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 16 October 2016, 14:53:12
Couple points. Redesigns for the IICs are pretty low down in priority. LAMs dead last, to the point that there isn't even a whiff of intention there.

I really hope they hold off Golden Century to put the IICs inthere.
You may think so simply from the title. However this product isn't a vehicle for that, and to make it so would mean scrapping a good deal of work that already went into it while shelving it for about another year (maybe more), and then charging about double what the book was projected to cost.
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 October 2016, 17:07:02
Thank you for the straightforward answer!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 October 2016, 17:36:43
Has the new Spotlight On been posted on BC or DTRPG?
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Post by: Pat Payne on 16 October 2016, 18:53:05
Couple points. Redesigns for the IICs are pretty low down in priority. LAMs dead last, to the point that there isn't even a whiff of intention there.

Fair enough.  :)
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Post by: JPArbiter on 16 October 2016, 18:59:53
I saw what you did there  ;)

One question I'd asked before -- is it likely that we'll get anything on the PHX-LAM, as the unit is key to the Hawks' mythology?

well that is good, cause I sure didn't until you pointed it out.

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Post by: Deadborder on 16 October 2016, 22:55:27
Couple points. Redesigns for the IICs are pretty low down in priority. LAMs dead last, to the point that there isn't even a whiff of intention there.

And there is a part of me that is incredibly thankful
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Post by: I am Belch II on 17 October 2016, 04:04:51
Couple points. Redesigns for the IICs are pretty low down in priority. LAMs dead last, to the point that there isn't even a whiff of intention there.
You may think so simply from the title. However this product isn't a vehicle for that, and to make it so would mean scrapping a good deal of work that already went into it while shelving it for about another year (maybe more), and then charging about double what the book was projected to cost.

Sad but understandable.
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Post by: RotS fan on 17 October 2016, 11:10:29
Has the new Spotlight On been posted on BC or DTRPG?
nope :(
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Post by: Pat Payne on 17 October 2016, 13:49:50
Coming Today (but maybe tomorrow)...

Spotlight: Crescent Hawks

(http://bg.battletech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Crescent-Hawks_Spotlight.png)


Is it tomorrow yet?  ;)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 17 October 2016, 13:50:49
Is it tomorrow yet?  ;)

There's only a 15-20% chance of that.
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Post by: mrbooth on 17 October 2016, 17:47:48
New spotlight book is out first glance very nice really like the tbolt art.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 17 October 2016, 17:52:46
Now Up on Battleshop

http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3679

Nothing on Drive Thru I can see
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Post by: mrbooth on 17 October 2016, 18:02:05
Now Up on Battleshop

http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3679

Nothing on Drive Thru I can see

Its on drive thur I got it there.
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Post by: Feenix74 on 17 October 2016, 18:11:55
Thanks CGL, I will be purchasing and downloading tonight when I am home from work  O0
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Post by: NeonKnight on 17 October 2016, 18:12:35
Its on drive thur I got it there.

it is now :D....wasn't when i looked

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/196079/BattleTech-Spotlight-On-Crescent-Hawks
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 17 October 2016, 18:44:50
As the first entry into what will hopefully be a new series I enjoyed the putting the Spotlight on the Crescent Hawks its a nice little product

Thanks and well done CGL I'll take the lot
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Post by: I am Belch II on 17 October 2016, 19:22:52
Awesome downloading now.
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Post by: Pat Payne on 17 October 2016, 19:28:49
Very nicely done! I've only been able to skim over it for the moment., but I like what I see so far -- BTW, cool reveal of a new Classic in there (not the expected one, of course, but the Thunderbolt line art is welcome all the same :) )
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 17 October 2016, 19:41:04
Oh dear god that Awesome...
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Post by: Wrangler on 17 October 2016, 19:45:01
Holy crap this is awesome book! I love how i gets into the background of the unit which was always little murky since it was mixed up with game history (which can be not-canonish) and pushes the ahead to the future where Hawks are back again!

I like how it provides scenarios and unit make up you play any era it was active.  Great work guys!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 October 2016, 20:30:55
Hurry up with the next one!! I have money to throw at the computer again! How about Wilsons Hussars, its another small unit so shouldn't take long for the phonebook with a twist :)

And WTF a 4 PPC awesome! SWEET!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 October 2016, 20:46:31
I think the only thing missing from the Crescent Hawk pdf was a painted mini or mech image in parade colors :-\ would have really nice and worth extra $, but I can understand how the expense for the art might not have been worth it.
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Post by: Wrangler on 17 October 2016, 21:02:20
I think the only thing missing from the Crescent Hawk pdf was a painted mini or mech image in parade colors :-\ would have really nice and worth extra $, but I can understand how the expense for the art might not have been worth it.
The new parade colors after the Jihad, are described like their Black Widows's paint schem.

Did you guys catch sigh of the new Griffin on the Alpha Strike in there the book as well?  I think this first time i seen it not in the background or colorized like it was on the First Succession War sourcebook.
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Post by: YingJanshi on 17 October 2016, 21:36:42
Would just like to point out that the blurb on the New Releases thread has it at $2.99, while the actual price on BattleShop and DTRPG is $3.99...


But anyway, just bought it and downloaded. Now I have some bedtime reading to do. :D
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Post by: Feenix74 on 17 October 2016, 21:41:45
I think the only thing missing from the Crescent Hawk pdf was a painted mini or mech image in parade colors :-\ would have really nice and worth extra $, but I can understand how the expense for the art might not have been worth it.

Here you go  ^-^

(https://itstartedwithagoldencartridge.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/chi8.jpg?w=300&h=188)
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Post by: Reldn on 17 October 2016, 21:43:20
Alright, I'm officially hooked on this "Spotlight on:" series. Haven't truly sat down and read about the Crescent Hawks yet, but, from what I've skimmed? I am loving this series!
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Post by: Cache on 17 October 2016, 21:49:19
And WTF a 4 PPC awesome! SWEET!
It swaps the ECM of the 3057-era AWS-9Q (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Awesome#Variants) for a C3 Slave and upgrades the small laser. Not new, but a nice variant.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 17 October 2016, 22:40:29
I'm not liking the fact that the 'Mech variants aren't specified in the "phone book" listing. Fortunately the Alpha Strike cards have that info, but I didn't like the fact that I had to go searching for it.
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Post by: Scotty on 17 October 2016, 23:07:49
I wager it's deliberate in case you want to field a different variant.
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Post by: JPArbiter on 17 October 2016, 23:21:30
I was kinda dissapointed that they did not take the chance to have Rec Peirce's "Blazing Inferno" Commando as a record sheet and alpha strike card.  that thing was NASTY.  4 Medium and 6 small lasers and another ton of armor.  all it needed was double heat sinks!
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Post by: RotS fan on 18 October 2016, 06:17:55
Now Up on Battleshop

http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3679

Nothing on Drive Thru I can see

very good product! can't wait for other releases of this serie
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Post by: CungrVanck on 18 October 2016, 08:50:15
I will also chime in and say that this Spoltlight On entry is great!

It covers multiple eras, multiple rule systems (Total Warfare, Alpha Strike, BattleForce, etc), provides a lot of story hooks with heros and villains...heck even gives us Uniform and Rank insignia.

Any gamemaster could build several campaigns from this item.

I am definitely looking forward to more of them!  Thanks!
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Post by: RomulusDC on 18 October 2016, 10:28:19
Crescent Hawks Thoughts:
The Good: Value; For what I paid, I will be enjoyed far longer than the gross cup of coffee I bought for the same price yesterday. Lots of Alpha Strike material. Good fiction. A character named Romulus.
The (less good) Bad: No art. I get it, epublications are low budget products. A portrait of one of the Youngbloods would have been nice. I would have traded more unit fiction for one of the missions. For products like these, it is the fluff I am looking for to help figure out how to use these people. Missions are less usefull in that regard.

I will buy another.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 October 2016, 11:01:08
I'd love to fill these with art. But every 2 B&W portraits or 1 B&W mech illo adds $1 to the price, which drives it outside the scope of the line. Secondly, art heavily a drags down production time and part of the goal here is to reproduce cool, light books to add to the universe while not bogging down production on this line or competing for resources on larger projects. Lastly, consistency—we want to make sure the content (and price) on these is fairly consistent, though in the future we may see Brent, myself or some of the writers contribute "bonus" content in the way of art, fluff or record sheets/cards/data (without impacting price or production time). Time will tell.

I realize that you know this "more or less," but just wanted to be transparent.

Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)
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Post by: RotS fan on 18 October 2016, 11:06:28
Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)

Sounds interesting! Any hints about this project, like the guessing game you guys did with Spotlights On?
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Post by: wantec on 18 October 2016, 11:18:48
Sounds interesting! Any hints about this project, like the guessing game you guys did with Spotlights On?
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's going to be a pretty popular Touring the Stars.
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Post by: Fat Guy on 18 October 2016, 11:31:38
Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)

So in other words, our Halloween product.   O0
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 October 2016, 11:47:37
…holy crap!
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 October 2016, 11:52:13
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/27/85/58/2785580d9024017d8f101ae9cfa692bc.jpg)
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Post by: kurtl000 on 18 October 2016, 13:11:19
Nice job on the spotlight! Adrian I know you don't have all the answers but have you heard any forward movement on the next novel? A simple yes or no will suffice. Thanx!
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Post by: ActionButler on 18 October 2016, 13:19:06
Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)

I am a professional mapmaker and all I have to say about this is...

Woohoo!  New geography!
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 18 October 2016, 13:38:52
kurtl000, my path hasn't crossed with John Helfers' at the last several staff meetings (sometimes on my end, sometimes his), so haven't gotten any news. I'll make an effort to find out what the status is on the various books being worked on and let you know.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 18 October 2016, 13:41:28
Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)

I read this one and immediately thought....Hunter's Paradise?  Full of mech sized monsters?

Here's hoping :)
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Post by: ActionButler on 18 October 2016, 14:02:44
I read this one and immediately thought....Hunter's Paradise?  Full of mech sized monsters?

That would just be... the best.
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Post by: Knightmare on 18 October 2016, 14:10:36
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's going to be a pretty popular Touring the Stars.

Yup. I. CAN'T. WAIT.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 18 October 2016, 14:14:22
kurtl000, my path hasn't crossed with John Helfers' at the last several staff meetings (sometimes on my end, sometimes his), so haven't gotten any news. I'll make an effort to find out what the status is on the various books being worked on and let you know.

Is his email working? I haven't heard a peep out of him in a month or so.

Back on topic, I haven't picked up the first Spotlight yet, but I will be doing so this week. It sounds like it's right up my alley! Shame about the art, as iconic visuals are such a memorable piece of this property, but I understand not everything needs to cost a bunch of money.

Oh, and I'm ready for CM: Davion now. I think gazing dreamily at the cover of that one will keep me busy for a while.
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Post by: RomulusDC on 18 October 2016, 14:22:00
Adrian,
Your transparency is appreciated and I'll drop that feedback about art in future similarly priced publications from future comments. It doesn't really serve a purpose if it is asking for something the product just isn't.
That said, I'll buy another and look forward to the upcoming release as well as future hard copy releases.
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Post by: Deadborder on 18 October 2016, 15:07:06
Just want to say that the Spotlight was amazing. It bought back some fantastic memories. Thank you all so very much! I can't think what was my favourite part of it (There were a lot to chose from) but the "Citadel Challenge" was a good one.
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Post by: wolfspider on 18 October 2016, 18:48:08
Adrian,
I love this approach with the spot light series, Great Job! So my next question is could we get some House Marik love for the next one? Also when will the master unit list be updated with the new classic mech images?
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Post by: kurtl000 on 18 October 2016, 20:30:20
kurtl000, my path hasn't crossed with John Helfers' at the last several staff meetings (sometimes on my end, sometimes his), so haven't gotten any news. I'll make an effort to find out what the status is on the various books being worked on and let you know.
Awesome thanx. I appreciate it.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 19 October 2016, 00:16:25
So art jacks up price and time.. so what about a painted mini? I can see this being something to avoid for most units, but those like the Crescent Hawks which has little to no history... Might be worth a poll to see if there is enough interest in a single illo once Spotlight On has a decent following. Either way, can't wait for the next one and now the next TtS.

And when will we see some art for the next new classic design?
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Post by: mbear on 19 October 2016, 06:16:21
So art jacks up price and time.. so what about a painted mini? I can see this being something to avoid for most units, but those like the Crescent Hawks which has little to no history... Might be worth a poll to see if there is enough interest in a single illo once Spotlight On has a decent following. Either way, can't wait for the next one and now the next TtS.

They'd still have to get the artwork: Stage the mini, photograph it, make corrections based on comments, re-photograph it, etc.

I'd rather have no art and a product that doesn't distract from the other projects.
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Post by: Cache on 19 October 2016, 09:19:15
They'd still have to get the artwork: Stage the mini, photograph it, make corrections based on comments, re-photograph it, etc.

I'd rather have no art and a product that doesn't distract from the other projects.
Don't forget that someone has to paint the mini (CSO volunteers probably). They appear to be painting a lot already.
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Post by: Wrangler on 19 October 2016, 09:40:02
I wonder what haunted world we'll be visiting next?!  :D
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 October 2016, 09:44:55
I wonder what haunted world we'll be visiting next?!  :D
Nothing Halloween themed. Just a really cool feature that will happen to coincide with Halloween.
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Post by: Hammer on 19 October 2016, 11:02:07
Interesting what if...

Proposing Future War: SCOUR and SCYTHE (https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/10/19/proposing-future-war-scour-and-scythe/)
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Post by: I am Belch II on 19 October 2016, 11:03:53
I like the Touring the Stars series. Now they will get better, that is great.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 October 2016, 11:23:27
I like the Touring the Stars series. Now they will get better, that is great.
There's no change to the format, just one special issue that warrants it.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 19 October 2016, 14:26:35
There's no change to the format, just one special issue that warrants it.

Which planet??
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 October 2016, 14:56:04
I hope it's "Touring the Stars End"
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 19 October 2016, 15:30:55
Haven't had a chance to pick it up yet, but does the Crescent Hawks book address the LAM?
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Post by: YingJanshi on 19 October 2016, 15:36:01
Haven't had a chance to pick it up yet, but does the Crescent Hawks book address the LAM?

Yes it has Youngblood's Mk 2 PH-LAM. And a really cool Jihad-era scenario I can't wait to try out.
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Post by: Scotty on 19 October 2016, 15:47:26
Yes.

It also mentions another LAM that is not a Phoenix Hawk.
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Post by: Knightmare on 19 October 2016, 15:48:45
I hope it's "Touring the Stars End"

Hehe. Kit, you're the best.  O0
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 October 2016, 15:58:29
I try my best.  ^-^
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Post by: NeonKnight on 19 October 2016, 16:28:12
You know, every time I see the BATTLETECH LEGENDS Book Kit has an Avatar, I keep thinking it's about me...cause those are my Initials :P

Daniel Richard Thomson
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 19 October 2016, 16:35:34
Neon I hope for your sake your initials don't follow the same line as the title of the book
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Post by: NeonKnight on 19 October 2016, 16:42:32
Neon I hope for your sake your initials don't follow the same line as the title of the book

Dont know have tet to read the book.
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Post by: mitchberthelson on 19 October 2016, 17:11:26
Just want to say that the Spotlight was amazing. It bought back some fantastic memories. Thank you all so very much! I can't think what was my favourite part of it (There were a lot to chose from) but the "Citadel Challenge" was a good one.

It was pretty cool.

Now, we just need Spotlight On: Blazing Aces.

I've been waiting decades since that battle on Kaesong in Crescent Hawks' Revenge to find out who "Maria" is and where Gideon had "hidden the 'Mechs."

Gotta give the other half of PowerHits: Battletech the same treatment. It's only fair. :)
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 19 October 2016, 20:02:13
Dont know have tet to read the book.

It stands for Dead Right There hopefully a long time coming  O0
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Post by: NeonKnight on 19 October 2016, 20:48:27
It stands for Dead Right There hopefully a long time coming  O0

Ahhhh...yeah, I hope so too.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 19 October 2016, 22:01:32
It stands for Dirty Red Thong hopefully a long time coming  O0
Alas, the old cover is since lost to history...
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Post by: Wrangler on 19 October 2016, 22:36:58
I guess it will depend on what writers want to write about.  I have this fatal and properly not likely hope the old Rolling Thunder will get a Spotlight shot.  I dearly loved that source book and the adventure/hijinks they got into.  They were resurrected during the Jihad along with the Green Monster battalion, but the thunder was only given a quick mention in one the book what happened to them.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 19 October 2016, 23:34:53
I have this fatal and properly not likely hope the old Rolling Thunder will get a Spotlight shot.
I do too, but nothing yet.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 20 October 2016, 07:09:22
At least your initials aren't SRM  O0

Gets painful getting shot out of a rocket launcher all the time.
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Post by: Karasu on 20 October 2016, 10:31:54
Hmm, what planet would get lots of interest, rather than just partisan interest?  Wasn't there a Terran Hegemony world that was invaded by all 5 houses at the start of the 1st Succession War?

Or maybe something that hints towards the future - either canonise or replace the far future of To Ride the Chimera.
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Post by: Empyrus on 20 October 2016, 10:39:30
Or maybe something that hints towards the future - either canonise or replace the far future of To Ride the Chimera.
What?
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Post by: RotS fan on 20 October 2016, 10:41:09
Hmm, what planet would get lots of interest, rather than just partisan interest?  Wasn't there a Terran Hegemony world that was invaded by all 5 houses at the start of the 1st Succession War?

Or maybe something that hints towards the future - either canonise or replace the far future of To Ride the Chimera.

Dont you mean Surrender your dreams?
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Post by: Karasu on 20 October 2016, 10:55:17
Dont you mean Surrender your dreams?

You're right, I do.  It's been too long since I read the MWDA novels.

The bit where a bunch of (ex) Knights go to a memorial for the innocents who were killed in a terrorist attack they carried out to keep the FFWL out of RotS space.  Which was in a new interstellar nation, never before heard of.  Or something like that.  Was it Kwamashu?
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Post by: Pat Payne on 20 October 2016, 18:47:35
Hmm, what planet would get lots of interest, rather than just partisan interest?  Wasn't there a Terran Hegemony world that was invaded by all 5 houses at the start of the 1st Succession War?

There is, but they just did Tyrfing already in a TTS installment O0
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Post by: Knightmare on 20 October 2016, 21:22:58
Nnnnnnnn...
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Post by: Wrangler on 20 October 2016, 21:42:43
It will properly be the lost world of Syberia.  ;D
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Post by: bobthecoward on 21 October 2016, 09:30:01
Hmm, what planet would get lots of interest, rather than just partisan interest?  Wasn't there a Terran Hegemony world that was invaded by all 5 houses at the start of the 1st Succession War?

Or maybe something that hints towards the future - either canonise or replace the far future of To Ride the Chimera.

I like ingress. Terran alliance, participated in outer reaches rebellion, hegemony, gobbled up by capellans, became tikonov controlled by the 4th succession war, then fedcom, chaos March, word of Blake protectorate,  republic, then outside the wall, and capellan again.

10 flags over ingress.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 21 October 2016, 09:39:19
Nnnnnnnn...

Not sure if hint or seizure?  ???
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Post by: YingJanshi on 21 October 2016, 13:29:57
So is the new TtS going to be the planet from Far Country? :D
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Post by: Wrangler on 21 October 2016, 13:31:37
So is the new TtS going to be the planet from Far Country? :D
LOL i doubt that, Interstellar Expeditions would need go waaaaaaaaaaaay out there to find them.
Find reason to unless they need new source of Thanksgiving Turkeys.
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Post by: Mendrugo on 21 October 2016, 14:13:36
Given the surplus of "N"s...Niops?

The Miss Ningpo Fashion Calendar 3018, featuring Ju-Lei Marshigama?

Nekkar (a world known mostly for chocolate, wine, and pachyderms)?
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Post by: cavingjan on 21 October 2016, 14:58:11
Ah. The games they play with us.
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 21 October 2016, 16:45:22
Given the surplus of "N"s...Niops?

As awesome as that would be, not gonna get my hopes up.  I could see Noisel and the games there as a possibility.
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Post by: mrbooth on 21 October 2016, 16:59:35
Wasn't there going to be a announcement this week about a Manual  or something ?
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Post by: Cache on 21 October 2016, 20:12:35
I could see Noisel and the games there as a possibility.
That is my first thought.
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Post by: Wrangler on 21 October 2016, 20:14:14
Wasn't there going to be a announcement this week about a Manual  or something ?
Your right. I guess it wasnt ready to be announced.
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Post by: Xotl on 21 October 2016, 20:29:35
Wasn't there going to be a announcement this week about a Manual  or something ?

Randall was to appear on No Guts No Galaxy and talk about it, but his appearanace was postponed a week (next Thursday).  No idea how much he'll say, though.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 23 October 2016, 06:53:27
Managed to download the first of the spotlight in series this morning (don't tell the Mrs!) really impressed with the book, can't wait to see more now.

Are there any hints as to what units might be in line for similar treatment?

Will they all be company/binary etc size?
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 23 October 2016, 16:08:29
The answer is farther back in the thread, maybe 3-4 pages ago.. but I believe it will not be limited to company sized units. If anyone finds it please post a link. I looked for it but couldn't find it  >:(
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Post by: RotS fan on 24 October 2016, 06:49:45
Managed to download the first of the spotlight in series this morning (don't tell the Mrs!) really impressed with the book, can't wait to see more now.

Are there any hints as to what units might be in line for similar treatment?

Will they all be company/binary etc size?

I remember a WoB and a Goliath Scorpion units being hinted, but that was months ago
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Post by: mbear on 24 October 2016, 07:32:33
I remember a WoB and a Goliath Scorpion units being hinted, but that was months ago

That would be awesome. I'd love to see a Seeker (goliath scorpion roving adventurer) unit too.
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Post by: cobaltcoil on 24 October 2016, 09:01:45
Perhaps the Goliath Scorpion unit will be the 1st Cateran Cluster....the one that trained the Wolf's Dragoons units before they came to the Inner Sphere....just a thought as that is the unit that stands out the most as the only unit of its type in the Goliath Scorpions with its specialty being unlike any other cluster in any of the clans.
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Post by: Wrangler on 24 October 2016, 10:23:51
Perhaps one of the Scorpion's Eridani Clusters, filled with former Eridani Light Horse personnel that was operating during the Jihad.  We know nothing about them, but the Clans may since at least one of those clusters cruised by the Inner Sphere.
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Post by: Jaim Magnus on 24 October 2016, 10:29:48
Perhaps one of the Scorpion's Eridani Clusters, filled with former Eridani Light Horse personnel that was operating during the Jihad.  We know nothing about them, but the Clans may since at least one of those clusters cruised by the Inner Sphere.

We know they were all wiped out by the end of the Wars of Reaving.
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Post by: Ran Felsner on 24 October 2016, 13:11:34
I wouldn't mind knowing more about the Khan who won the right to accompany the invading clan into the Inner Sphere and disappeared during the battle in Devil's Bath on Tukayyid.
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Post by: wantec on 24 October 2016, 14:42:41
I wouldn't mind knowing more about the Khan who won the right to accompany the invading clan into the Inner Sphere and disappeared during the battle in Devil's Bath on Tukayyid.
Yeah, what ever happened to that guy, how did a star of Scorpions end up with the Vipers in the Inner Sphere anyways? I'd love to see that in print/pdf form.
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Post by: JPArbiter on 24 October 2016, 18:35:04
here is an idea for a hypothetical Spotlight...

Clans Wolverine, Mongoose, Burrock, and Widowmaker Alpha Clusters (later Galaxies)

give an indea about the nascent and little covered Clans doctrine, Capabilities and makeup.
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Post by: cobaltcoil on 24 October 2016, 19:24:56
For the Wolverine unit....I could see it being the 3331st Battle Cluster....the clan unit created to honor the SLDF 331st North American Division that was  led by Khan Sarah McEvedy's father....no mention was made of its destruction during the Wolverine Annihilation in Betrayal of Ideals.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 24 October 2016, 19:27:16
here is an idea for a hypothetical Spotlight...

Clans Wolverine, Mongoose, Burrock, and Widowmaker Alpha Clusters (later Galaxies)

give an indea about the nascent and little covered Clans doctrine, Capabilities and makeup.

The original Clan units could be fun
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Post by: I am Belch II on 26 October 2016, 06:47:47
The original Clan units could be fun

I would like to see some more Golden Century stuff.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 27 October 2016, 07:47:18
Now, to immediately do a 180 on everything I just said, in two weeks we'll be releasing a special bonus sized Touring the Stars for a slight markup, with double to triple the content. More on that later—it should be a ton of fun. :)

So has any more info been released on this upcoming Touring the Stars?  Part of my brain wants Hunter's Paradise with Kaiju rules in it, but that seems too easy ;)
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Post by: The Eagle on 27 October 2016, 09:31:01
Perhaps it's Outreach?  Coverage of the old SLDF training grounds, Harlech and the Hiring Hall, a rundown on what happened there when the Jihad kicked off?
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 27 October 2016, 10:30:04
We'll find out Monday (unless Knightmare decides to reveal it sooner).
However…pretty sure someone guessed correctly already…
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Post by: wantec on 27 October 2016, 11:15:18
We'll find out Monday (unless Knightmare decides to reveal it sooner).
However…pretty sure someone guessed correctly already…
It was me wasn't it  :)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 October 2016, 11:16:23
It was me wasn't it  :)

No, it was totally me.  8)
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Post by: Mendrugo on 27 October 2016, 11:33:55
I'm still holding out for chocolate-covered drunken pachyderms on Nekkar.
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Post by: Rainbow 6 on 27 October 2016, 13:05:36
Perhaps it's Outreach?  Coverage of the old SLDF training grounds, Harlech and the Hiring Hall, a rundown on what happened there when the Jihad kicked off?

Please be this.
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Post by: Dmon on 27 October 2016, 15:16:13
Perhaps it's Outreach?  Coverage of the old SLDF training grounds, Harlech and the Hiring Hall, a rundown on what happened there when the Jihad kicked off?

Please be aything but this!
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Post by: Mendrugo on 27 October 2016, 15:39:32
Please be aything but this!

Gotta admit, we already have most of that info about Outreach in legacy products.  Harlech and the Hiring Halls get a decent overview in Mercenary's Handbook 3055 and Field Manual: Mercenaries, and an exhaustive writeup in Null Set.  The details of what happened on Outreach at the outset of the Jihad are in the first few volumes of the Jihad Hot Spots series, as well as being covered in:

3067-10-11: The Only One That Matters (Sourcebook Fiction - Total Chaos - Steven Lockley and Steven Savile) - Outreach (CM)
3067-10-15: Another Day, Another C-Bill (Track - Total Chaos - Joel Bancroft-Connors, Philip A. Lee, Matt Murray, Christopher Purnell, Craig A. Reed, Ben H. Rome, Joel Steverson, Geoff Swift, Andreas Zuber) - Outreach (CM)
3067-10-15: A Line in the Dust (Short Story - BattleCorps - Kevin Killiany) - Outreach (CM)
3067-10-18: Shadows of Faith (Serialized Novel - BattleCorps - Loren L. Coleman) - Outreach (CM)
3067-11-14: Shadows of Faith (Serialized Novel - BattleCorps - Loren L. Coleman) - Outreach (CM)
3067-11-28: Shadows of Faith (Serialized Novel - BattleCorps - Loren L. Coleman) - Outreach (CM)
3067-12-24: The Day After (Short Story - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (CM)
3067-12-25: The Day After (Short Story - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (CM)
3067-12-26: The Day After (Short Story - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (CM)
3067-12-27: The Day After (Short Story - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (CM)
3068-03-21: A Thing to Be Done (Short Story - Fire For Effect Anthology - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (BP)
3069-10-15: Liberation (Track - Total Chaos - Joel Bancroft-Connors, Philip A. Lee, Matt Murray, Christopher Purnell, Craig A. Reed, Ben H. Rome, Joel Steverson, Geoff Swift, Andreas Zuber) - Outreach (BP)
3069-10-27: Night Terrors (Short Story - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (BP)
3069-12-13: Ghosts (Scenario - BattleCorps - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (BP)
3069-12-13: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Ghosts (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
3069-12-20: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Salvage (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
3069-12-30: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Furball (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
3070-01-15: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Data Mining (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
3070-01-22: Samadh (Sourcebook Fiction - Starterbook: Wolf and Blake - Jason Schmetzer) - Outreach (BP)
3070-01-23: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Arrival (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
3070-01-30: Return of the Wolves - Rebellion - Water Spiders (Track - BattleCorps - Uncredited) - Outreach (BP)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 27 October 2016, 15:42:28
Please be aything but this!

Maybe it will be Touring the Stars: The Ruins of Gabriel.

The best part will be the map; for after 3075 you get out the space map, rip up the TtS map and toss it over the space map.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 27 October 2016, 15:52:02
Hey adrian just watched a little of the podcast with Randall. When he mentioned 4 new novels did he mean 4 new battletech ones?
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Post by: Legatus on 27 October 2016, 16:02:58
Maybe it will be Touring the Stars: The Ruins of Gabriel.

The best part will be the map; for after 3075 you get out the space map, rip up the TtS map and toss it over the space map.
I actually thought it might be for all of the hidden 5, or however many are left . It would be nice to have one less dangling plot thread.
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Post by: SCC on 27 October 2016, 16:25:38
Maybe it will be Touring the Stars: The Ruins of Gabriel.

The best part will be the map; for after 3075 you get out the space map, rip up the TtS map and toss it over the space map.
Reminds of hoe someone said the attacking forces for the Fall of Gibson scenario would be 6 ounces lighter fluid and one pack of matches
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 27 October 2016, 17:07:00
Maybe it will be Touring the Stars: The Ruins of Gabriel.

The best part will be the map; for after 3075 you get out the space map, rip up the TtS map and toss it over the space map.

This would be interesting
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Post by: Dak on 27 October 2016, 19:48:45
I think the upcoming Touring the Stars might have special meaning to any Clevelanders out there.

Dak
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Post by: Pa Weasley on 27 October 2016, 20:36:49
I think the upcoming Touring the Stars might have special meaning to any Clevelanders out there.
Is it planet "Free Stamp"?
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Post by: Wrangler on 27 October 2016, 23:07:14
Maybe TtS will be either the list world of Illinois  or Ohio,  ^-^
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Post by: SteelRaven on 27 October 2016, 23:37:21
Quick search on Sarna, ther is a city named Cleveland on Atreus and New Cleveland was one of four planets in The Sword and the Dagger that don't show up in any other Battletech book.

 
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Post by: Mendrugo on 28 October 2016, 00:53:51
Goat Path?  (Because of the curse?)
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 28 October 2016, 06:32:10
Hmmm, I think Gibson is on fire like the Cuyahoga....
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Post by: Sharpnel on 28 October 2016, 06:59:55
Hmmm, I think Gibson is on fire like the Cuyahoga....
I thought about going there and then realized that I was a better person ;)
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Post by: CungrVanck on 28 October 2016, 09:01:19
Hey adrian just watched a little of the podcast with Randall. When he mentioned 4 new novels did he mean 4 new battletech ones?

There are several novels listed on the coming soon page so they may be the ones to which he was referring.  I was excited for the confirmation of the BattleTech Manual being working on and a potential card game in the preliminary steps of development.

EDIT - Oops!  Should have typed BattleMech Manual.
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Post by: Wrangler on 28 October 2016, 09:19:54
I hope they explain the BattleTech Manual soon.

Thing is there already a published book named the BattleTech Manual (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleTech_Manual:_The_Rules_of_Warfare).  I'm surprised their reusing the old rule book name for this project.  It may confuse some people. :/

*rubs his hands* I can't wait for Touring the Star pdf coming our way Monday.
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Post by: cavingjan on 28 October 2016, 09:29:25
It isn't BattleTech Manual. It is BattleMech Manual.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 28 October 2016, 09:37:47
It isn't BattleTech Manual. It is BattleMech Manual.

Shortened to Bat-Manuel

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-weUM35gNiIc/UC6fmB8ooWI/AAAAAAAACEo/HrZNGg5Q2G4/w1200-h630-p-nu/batmanuel_meme.jpg)
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 28 October 2016, 09:49:38
Got a preview of the cover.
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Post by: nckestrel on 28 October 2016, 09:50:07
Randall talks about it quite a bit in the NGNG podcast #149.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f75sqF4pLLs#t=4845
Randall gets to the BattleMech Manual after the 56th minute.  It's a couple minutes long, maybe 10 minutes at most.

BattleMech Manual is a rulebook covering BattleMechs.
It doesn't obsolete Total Warfare, ie. it's the same rules in the TW series (TO, etc).  But it has a more minimalist approach, like older rulebooks (like the BattleTech Manual you referenced).
So it has all the current (after TR Prototypes, TR 3085, IO) tournament level rules, for BattleMechs (and not for other unit types), in one book.  Generally trying to tighten the word count, but still the same "rules edition" as Total Warfare.  Aimed at being a rules reference rather than an introduction to the everything BattleTech.
There are some new additions that are simpler versions of some advanced rules, like artillery and fire/smoke I think are mentioned specifically. 

He mentions it's in editing, has cover art, and he got a first sample layout chapter to review just then. And that he would be sharing some more on the Catalyst tumblr.
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Post by: Empyrus on 28 October 2016, 10:05:32
The MechManual sounds great. Especially those simplified options for fire/smoke and the like.
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 October 2016, 15:57:15
And there you have it.

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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 October 2016, 16:01:23
Hey adrian just watched a little of the podcast with Randall. When he mentioned 4 new novels did he mean 4 new battletech ones?
honestly don't know.
And I tried to get you an update at our BT meeting but I don't have any details, all I'm able to say is that we're working on bringing the novels back, we're committed to them, the publication (through hobby distribution) of Embers of War and the return of the Legends epubs are steps toward this, but there are a lot of moving parts and business hurdles yet. Hang in there.
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Post by: kurtl000 on 28 October 2016, 16:13:47
honestly don't know.
And I tried to get you an update at our BT meeting but I don't have any details, all I'm able to say is that we're working on bringing the novels back, we're committed to them, the publication (through hobby distribution) of Embers of War and the return of the Legends epubs are steps toward this, but there are a lot of moving parts and business hurdles yet. Hang in there.
Oh ok shows how little I know of the process. I figured with Embers of War in print that wouldve made things easier going forward. Wait a min was Embers just in hobby stores and not Borders or something? Bought mine digitally so i wouldnt know.  Anyway thanx Adrian for getting back to me i really appreciate it.
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Post by: Wrangler on 28 October 2016, 16:14:16
Got a preview of the cover.
Is that going be canon or a joke?  :o
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 28 October 2016, 16:18:07
Got a preview of the cover.
Joking aside, here's a little tidbit: the covers of the First and Second Succession War books depict Poulsbo.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 28 October 2016, 16:33:36
Is that going be canon or a joke?  :o
Just a joke, I was thinking of doing Cincinnatus but that'd be too easy.  It's hard to find a good marshmallow picture, too.

Note to self: I will not do a Touring The Stars: Giedi Prime.
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Post by: Trace Coburn on 29 October 2016, 08:28:07
  In case some people missed the notification e-mail from DriveThruRPG, they’re now offering three bundles of BattleTech sourcebooks.  For clarity: to my knowledge, none of these bundles contain any ‘new’ products; they’re simply newly-established package deals on already-available pdfs.  All three focus on the origins, doings, and ultimate downfall of the First Star League, so there’s a lot of overlap in the contents, but if you want to complete your collections, or give someone the ‘critical’ historical sources on that era of BT future-history, this is a good way to get some key .pdfs at a nice discount.  ;)

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/196765/BattleTech-The-Might-of-the-Star-League-BUNDLE
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/196764/BattleTech-The-Rise-and-Fall-of-the-Star-League-BUNDLE
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/196763/BattleTech-The-Star-League-BUNDLE
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Post by: Daryk on 29 October 2016, 09:21:42
Hmmm... the first bundle has no discount, but the other two do and are actually tempting...
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 29 October 2016, 10:34:31
Haven't announced them yet, looks like there are some issues.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 29 October 2016, 19:22:58
I wait for Succession Wars 2 book. The first one was so awesome and showed how much carnage that went on over that part.
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Post by: RotS fan on 31 October 2016, 10:58:08
We'll find out Monday (unless Knightmare decides to reveal it sooner).
However…pretty sure someone guessed correctly already…

 :D :D :D
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Post by: CungrVanck on 31 October 2016, 11:01:42
Indeed...what tome of knowledge shall be released this day? :)
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Post by: Mendrugo on 31 October 2016, 13:59:24
Indeed...what tome of knowledge shall be released this day? :)

The Mechronomicon
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Post by: Takiro on 31 October 2016, 15:02:51
The Mechronomicon

I said the words, sort of...
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Post by: Decoy on 31 October 2016, 15:26:05
Mechromcom?

Is this going to be something like "How I met your Marauder?
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 31 October 2016, 15:27:57
Married...with BattleArmor.
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Post by: Pa Weasley on 31 October 2016, 16:03:31
Married...with BattleArmor.
Is there any other way?
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Post by: solmanian on 31 October 2016, 17:51:17
I would totally buy an unholy book that summons battlemechs...
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 31 October 2016, 18:07:18
Still no release? Hmm. Well it's coming, should be out tonight.

No hints either? Here's a half-hearted one: what does chess, football, hockey and BattleTech have in common? Ok, now guess again.  ;)
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Post by: Maingunnery on 31 October 2016, 18:11:50
I would totally buy an unholy book that summons battlemechs...
They will all be superheavy QuadVees.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 31 October 2016, 18:15:01
Still no release? Hmm. Well it's coming, should be out tonight.

No hints either? Here's a half-hearted one: what does chess, football, hockey and BattleTech have in common? Ok, now guess again.  ;)

Noisiel?

 Or the Trials of Possession Clan Nova Cat forfeited its OZ to the DC >:(
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 31 October 2016, 18:35:54
Reiterating my Noisel Games guess.
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Post by: RotS fan on 31 October 2016, 18:41:52
Noisiel?

 Or the Trials of Possession Clan Nova Cat forfeited its OZ to the DC >:(

http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/images/E-CAT35SN214_BattleTech-Touring-the-Stars-Noisiel.jpg

It seems you are right
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Post by: I am Belch II on 31 October 2016, 19:23:21
Nice
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Post by: Wrangler on 31 October 2016, 19:31:24
It's out guys.

BattleTech: Touring the Stars: Noisiel (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3685) - BattleShop
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Post by: mrbooth on 31 October 2016, 19:49:27
BattleMech chess rules may be one of the coolest things done in a while IMO also would love to play a game of hockey just need to paint up some mechs in Bruins colors. Very nice product.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 31 October 2016, 20:48:33
Fun product thanks guys

And a nicely timed distraction after messing about with a WarShip design all night...
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Post by: Wrangler on 31 October 2016, 21:12:07
What great book.  My local convention i may try run these games for my friends.  Its nice alternative, and also great to know the Summer games survived the Jihad and into the Dark Age!

Getting completely new map set for this thing is another bonus on top of that.  I know it's focus on the games, but still great!

Thanks again writing this chem of a book, Herb and everyone who helped out!
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Post by: Sharpnel on 31 October 2016, 23:45:49
It's out guys.

BattleTech: Touring the Stars: Noisiel (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3685) - BattleShop
Just DL'd it. It will give something to read at work tonight
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Post by: Giovanni Blasini on 01 November 2016, 00:00:47
Yup, that's awesomesauce.
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Post by: Sartris on 01 November 2016, 00:33:29
going to try the chess game on wednesday.
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Post by: Deadborder on 01 November 2016, 00:57:18
This looks fantastic! Great work everyone, and I can't wait to get into it. (I would have by now, but I'm supposed to be studying for an exam...)
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Post by: CungrVanck on 01 November 2016, 10:11:12
I think I will use these rules and form a Mech Dodge Ball League :)

Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and......Dodge!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 01 November 2016, 23:50:35
If you can dodge a gauss rifle you can dodge a long tom to the face!
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Post by: ActionButler on 02 November 2016, 13:46:09
Mech-scaled sporting events were a thing I never realized that I wanted until now. 
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 03 November 2016, 03:30:35
So now we have a reason to throw that old Locust around  O0
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Post by: mbear on 03 November 2016, 05:43:18
So now we have a reason to throw that old Locust around  O0

No offense, but if you needed a reason you're doing it wrong.  O0
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Post by: I am Belch II on 03 November 2016, 06:04:15
I remember someone having rules for Battletech football and hockey rules.
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Post by: Wrangler on 03 November 2016, 06:07:46
Sorry ignore this post, i didn't see a separate one. 
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Post by: NeonKnight on 05 November 2016, 11:39:48
Which is the next projected Combat Manual? Steiner or Davion? Anyone know? I just need to get my mini forces finished painted and prepped for the manual.
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Post by: Empyrus on 05 November 2016, 11:44:58
Hasn't preliminary Davion CM cover been shown? I would assume it will be the next one.
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Post by: Sartris on 05 November 2016, 12:05:24
pretty sure davion is next though i don't recall seeing any art.
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Post by: Hammer on 05 November 2016, 12:28:40
At Gen Con the pic HERE (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=52246.msg1244521#msg1244521) was on Randall's phone and he showed a bunch of the people in the seminar.  That was supposed to be the cover of the Davion book.

Not sure if the plan has changed since.
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Post by: NeonKnight on 05 November 2016, 14:15:59
Sounds like Davion...Time get my 4th Crucis Lancers all decalled up!
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Post by: Wrangler on 05 November 2016, 14:33:09
Has players been using the Combat Manuals that have come out?
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Post by: NeonKnight on 05 November 2016, 14:37:16
I know I have.

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=55067.0
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Post by: SteveRestless on 05 November 2016, 15:10:41
Has players been using the Combat Manuals that have come out?

Not me. I've got an embargo on products that aren't TRO: Golden Century, RS that include NTNU 3150, or plot-forward sourcebooks (So ilClan or anything that advances us from 3145+). Most of my Gaming spending has been going to PGI for MWO(Yay Hero Timberwolf!), friends for miniatures (bought a Clan Star the other day, and a whole bunch of Germans for Bolt Action from a friend) and on the books for Bolt Action.

That, and, it's not clear if the Combat Manuals will ever reach the clans or what format that would be in. I'd probably break my embargo for a CM:Wolf and CM:Ghost Bear. I'd wait, for a CM:Clans. I probably won't bother, if they're never covered. Having no interest in Alpha Strike as a play format reduces their utility to me. the mech unit usage information is of interest, but potentially too vague to be of real utility to me and hardly worth the price of admission for that aspect alone.

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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 05 November 2016, 15:19:26
Has players been using the Combat Manuals that have come out?

Oh yes, yes indeed.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 05 November 2016, 15:47:41
Not me. I've got an embargo on products that aren't TRO: Golden Century, RS that include NTNU 3150, or plot-forward sourcebooks (So ilClan or anything that advances us from 3145+). Most of my Gaming spending has been going to PGI for MWO(Yay Hero Timberwolf!)...
Funny, I have a self imposed embargo on PGI/MWO until after this Power Drain/Ghost Heat 2 thing is resolved. We all have our own priorities ( especially those of us who are broke)

Loving the art for the Combat Manuals, cant wait to see the Lyran book
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Post by: SteveRestless on 05 November 2016, 16:37:15
Funny, I have a self imposed embargo on PGI/MWO until after this Power Drain/Ghost Heat 2 thing is resolved. We all have our own priorities

Oh frak, that is a thing, isn't it? I forgot they were doing that test. Well, at least they ARE playtesting it first.

( especially those of us who are broke)

Yeah, know that feel.
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Post by: ActionButler on 06 November 2016, 07:37:36
Has players been using the Combat Manuals that have come out?

They are absolutely two of the best books in the BT library, IMO.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 November 2016, 08:27:57
Don't play Alpha Strike but I find the information useful, especially the section on the SW and Clan era faction specific units. Still waiting for CM:Davion though... get it done already!!
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 06 November 2016, 08:32:56
Don't play Alpha Strike but I find the information useful, especially the section on the SW and Clan era faction specific units. Still waiting for CM:Davion though... get it done already!!

Campaign Operations has a chapter on force creation that adapts the Alpha Strike themed lances, SPAs and unit abilities in regular BattleTech, so you can apply the rules in the Combat Manuals to BattleTech if you like.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 06 November 2016, 19:51:12
Already have CO and happy to have it. The SPAs from CO seem to be half AS and half aToW. Still like the CM series though O0
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Post by: I am Belch II on 06 November 2016, 21:17:07
The Davion book for Alpha Strike should be comming out soon.
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Post by: JadedFalcon on 07 November 2016, 02:28:51
Also excited about CM:Steiner! Interested in seeing if/how CM:Davion tackles the FedCom situation. Also hoping the current Combat Manuals sell well enough to justify Combat Manuals for other major powers.
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Post by: Wrangler on 07 November 2016, 07:04:02
Is there suppose to be another Tour the Star coming out?  Tumblr feed announced more Epubs Legends like Bred for War and Grave Convent coming out (http://catalystgamelabs.tumblr.com/post/152743944181/new-legends), but also it mentioned a TtS.   We just got one, we getting another one soon after the Halloween release?
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Post by: Sharpnel on 07 November 2016, 07:33:07
I think the TtS hinted at is the most recent one, Noisiel. Personally, I want to see one on Novo Franklin in the near future.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 09 November 2016, 15:50:55
So anything new for this Friday?
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 13 November 2016, 15:15:39
I want more pics of some new classics... Anyone heard whats next or find a new pic floating around?
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Post by: I am Belch II on 13 November 2016, 21:17:49
It's been pretty quiet on the new releases front.
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Post by: Sartris on 13 November 2016, 22:19:23
Hoping for another spotlight on soon
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Post by: Dohon on 14 November 2016, 03:58:54
I want more pics of some new classics... Anyone heard whats next or find a new pic floating around?

Seconded. I'd love to see the new wireframe images for the Classic Wolverine and Thunderbolt as well. Me love the Thud.

As for the silence, wasn't CGL present at Aether Con?
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 14 November 2016, 05:40:28
No clue, never heard of that one. I know they planned on attending Mech Con but...
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 14 November 2016, 10:15:12
I'm still waiting on the Crusader, myself.  Really fallen in love with the old Macross armored Valkyrie looks, especially some certain interpretations (http://mechajournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2009-10-SVF-13-105.jpg) thereof.  I do hope it manages to keep a lot of the look the old one has, like the Classic Archer or Shadow Hawk does.
(fixed link)
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Post by: Empyrus on 14 November 2016, 11:36:58
Once we get Crusader... where are the missiles located? I mean, the leg-launchers are on hips apparently, but the arm ones? I recall some text saying they were shoulder-mounted but i never could determine that from the art.
(PP-Crusaders have their missiles on their arm "bracers" certainly.)
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 14 November 2016, 12:43:02
Check out the original Armored Valkyrie art (http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/vf-1j-gbp/vf-1j-gbp-lineart1.gif) which has appeared (I'm sure) in old products.  It shows the location of all the launchers.  And yeah, there's a lot more in the Macross version than are in the Battletech version; Macross doesn't use reloadable launchers but instead likes big one-shot missiles.
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Post by: Empyrus on 14 November 2016, 13:41:44
Somehow i expect the new art to retcon them to the bracers. Partially as a method to distinguish the BT Crusader from the original.

The fore-arms always felt more natural position for them, IMO.
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 14 November 2016, 23:10:55
It'd also draw a strong parallel to the 8L Crud with its mixed MMLs and Plasma Rifles.  (Fantastic 'Mech, just...not the all-range missile spamming monster I like)
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Post by: Deadborder on 15 November 2016, 01:42:43
Mechanically the reseen Crud makes more sense too. The LRMs were allways in the arms, but their mounting would give them an arc of fire closer to a torso weapon.

With that being said, the two I'm hanging out for the most are the Ostroc and Ostsol. Given how far removed those two allready were from their progenitor, the Classic versions should be interesting to behold
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Post by: VhenRa on 15 November 2016, 02:42:59
Especially since the Ostscout impressed so much.
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Post by: Wrangler on 15 November 2016, 07:05:40
Given how big and bulky the launchers can be, i can understand why the SRMs and the LRMS are mounted the way they are.  The missiles on the Armored Valkyrie was suppose to be temporary missile.  Heck i wondered if the hands were part of the temporary armor vs the machine inside.  I forgot how huge those missiles the Armored Valkyrie were packing.  Few missile flying were more potent than the launchers Battletech uses.   

Anycase, i'm looking forwarded seeing the Crud come out. I don't think it's really a Davion Mech so we may not see it soon.  My gut feelings says in Steiner book or the League books. 
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 15 November 2016, 07:14:32
Ah but no FWL Combat Manual is planned for now... sad too, I would have liked to buy it.

As for the Crud... While it may not make as much sense I like the Macross look better. The reseen... was pretty ugly. The arm mounted launchers could have been made to look soo much better. If they do go with the reseen route I do hope the arm launchers don't look so awful.
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Post by: Wrangler on 15 November 2016, 07:31:15
I like the reseen image mostly, i did wish it had more detail to it when they originally had Chris Lewis to create it.  I find that the twin MRM-30s the 5K Crusader has is better take down power than i originally thought.  Maybe reading Embers of War novel changed my mind on the MRMs. 

Anyways, the "Popeye" looks makes sense for it, with crammed full of firepower you can aim with your Mech's arm.  Sure the Classic 3025ish Crusader was bomb waiting to happen, but that's what you get for good armor, and heavy missile based fireball. The JagerMech of Missile boards.  No Shoulder missile because the Archer has it covered i'd suspect.

Anycase i'm sure that Combat Manuals continue to be made, maybe we'll see the rest soon enough or ...hey the Second Succession War could end up having the Crud a well or a variant of it..
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 15 November 2016, 07:36:29
Given how big and bulky the launchers can be, i can understand why the SRMs and the LRMS are mounted the way they are.  The missiles on the Armored Valkyrie was suppose to be temporary missile.  Heck i wondered if the hands were part of the temporary armor vs the machine inside.  I forgot how huge those missiles the Armored Valkyrie were packing.

While they're meant to be the regular Valkyrie hands in the animation, the Arcadia 1/60 Armoured Valkyrie toy does use separate hands.  You can have the regular hands poke out if you want, but there's not enough clearance to hold a gun pod if you do.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 15 November 2016, 08:27:17
It'd also draw a strong parallel to the 8L Crud with its mixed MMLs and Plasma Rifles.  (Fantastic 'Mech, just...not the all-range missile spamming monster I like)

That thing is sick and wrong. I love it.  O0
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Post by: Sartris on 15 November 2016, 09:39:58
Ah but no FWL Combat Manual is planned for now... sad too, I would have liked to buy it.

Based on that answer (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=55321.0), i was more under the impression that CM: Marik and CM: Liao just weren't necessarily on the immidiate radar. We're more than six months out from the release of CM: Steiner (which is on the coming releases page). 2017 will probably see Second Succession War and IlClan drop along with with CM: Davion and CM: Steiner. Five to six print books in a year is about CGL's limit so if there are going to be additional combat manuals beyond what is planned, we won't see them until 2018 and there isn't much point in getting the hype train going until we get closer to that time.

My sinking suspicion is that they plan to flesh out the invasion corridor first with manuals for the clans before coming back to Marik, Liao, and the Periphery.
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Post by: Wrangler on 15 November 2016, 23:10:08
I thought 2nd Succession War was suppose to be the last major product this year.
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Post by: Sartris on 15 November 2016, 23:17:54
we haven't gotten much info if it is. tumblr has been completely mum on updates so it would certainly be a nice surprise.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 16 November 2016, 02:56:38
My sinking suspicion is that they plan to flesh out the invasion corridor first with manuals for the clans before coming back to Marik, Liao, and the Periphery.
It's been said a few times over the years that the Clan-specific books don't tend to be particularly big sellers. I suspect if the invading clans get a Combat Manual, it'll be one Combat Manual covering all of them. Partly because I don't think it'll be that big a seller, but also because with an Invading Clans sourcebook already out there that covers that specific period and those Clans pretty well already, there won't be that much new or revelatory stuff to add.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 16 November 2016, 03:16:25
That's allot of units for one book, think the combat manuals will stay pre-clan
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 16 November 2016, 04:05:20
That's allot of units for one book, think the combat manuals will stay pre-clan

The two combat manuals already out are post-Clan - the Draconis Combine one even notes the units destroyed during the invasion
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Post by: VhenRa on 16 November 2016, 04:55:15
That's allot of units for one book, think the combat manuals will stay pre-clan

Not really if you only focus on the clusters/galaxies that deployed into the IS.
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Post by: mbear on 16 November 2016, 07:45:50
It's been said a few times over the years that the Clan-specific books don't tend to be particularly big sellers. I suspect if the invading clans get a Combat Manual, it'll be one Combat Manual covering all of them. Partly because I don't think it'll be that big a seller, but also because with an Invading Clans sourcebook already out there that covers that specific period and those Clans pretty well already, there won't be that much new or revelatory stuff to add.

But Invading Clans is out of print and kind of a pain to find. Personally I'd like to see an updated version, which CM:Clans could* be. It'd be really nice if they included info about the smaller units that accompanied the main Clan invasion force. The Goliath Scorpions had one, and I think later products said some others were included as well.

*Emphasis mine because CGL hasn't said one thing or another about it and I'd like to short circuit any suggestions that says CGL will be doing it this way.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 16 November 2016, 07:47:18
I suspect if the invading clans get a Combat Manual, it'll be one Combat Manual covering all of them.

Since the existing Combat Manuals only go up to 3054 in the timeline, any Clan Combat Manual may only need to cover the seven original Invading Clans (i.e. Wolf, Jade Falcon, Smoke Jaguar, Ghost Bear, Steel Viper, Nova Cat and Diamond Shark).

Those Clans are the main players in the Inner Sphere.  The remaining Clans can be "re-introduced" in another manual later if they think it would sell.  Least that is my hope as well as getting insignia for each cluster!

Also, I would expect to see the CM: Marik and CM: Liao sooner than other people think.  The War of Andurien Succession, the many Liao units that existed before the 4th Succession War, The St. Ives Compact, all of these are significant chunks of info that can be covered and expanded a bit.
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Post by: Cubby on 16 November 2016, 08:31:38
But Invading Clans is out of print and kind of a pain to find.

It's available as a PDF download through BattleShop. (http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3160)

Since the existing Combat Manuals only go up to 3054 in the timeline

Ish. The exact end date is a bit soft to allow for some flexibility. More on that here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53631.msg1237000#msg1237000).

Also, I would expect to see the CM: Marik and CM: Liao sooner than other people think.

Setting aside my own self-interest in seeing the line continue--I hope so, I enjoy the series a lot. They're among the best-looking books CGL has ever produced. And with the Formation and SPA/SCA rules published in Campaign Operations, they're now very valuable outside of Alpha Strike, too.

But let's all remember that CM: Marik/Liao/Clans are totally speculative at this point. They're not products that have even been announced, and CMs: Davion and Steiner are still ahead of them.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 16 November 2016, 08:40:52
I thought 2nd Succession War was suppose to be the last major product this year.


I hope it makes it out by the end of the year.
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Post by: ActionButler on 16 November 2016, 09:40:37
It's been said a few times over the years that the Clan-specific books don't tend to be particularly big sellers. I suspect if the invading clans get a Combat Manual, it'll be one Combat Manual covering all of them. Partly because I don't think it'll be that big a seller, but also because with an Invading Clans sourcebook already out there that covers that specific period and those Clans pretty well already, there won't be that much new or revelatory stuff to add.

Invading Clans was a great book, but it completely fails to deliver the same information as the Combat Manuals. 
It lacks the Alpha Strike rules, it lacks the faction availability lists, and it lacks the famous personalities. 

Also, plenty of new books revisit information from older books.  No reason to hold that against CGL now. 
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Post by: Maingunnery on 16 November 2016, 12:32:27

I would like to see:
  CM: Invader Clans
  CM: Homeworld Clans
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Post by: sadlerbw on 16 November 2016, 14:03:18
As long as they keep featuring mini's painted with the unit color scheme's and the mega-tables for availability, I'll keep buying them! For me, those are two of my favorite parts of the CM series. Even though I am not much of a painter, I really, really appreciate having a visual example of the various unit paint schemes in addition to the written descriptions. I also love the faction availability lists. I know the MUL can provide some similar information, but for some reason the tables in the books feel a little tighter than when I do MUL searhes. I haven't been able to quantify it better than that.

Anyway, while I would buy at least PDF copies of a CM:Marik and CM:Liao, I understand that they aren't the best-selling factions. I would be willing to accept those two as PDF-only releases, or maybe with reduced art/fiction (But please keep the unit schemes!) to keep costs down rather than skipping them entirely.

As for the clans, as much as I like the Homeworlds, I feel like a single CM:Clans with just the invaders is probably OK for the 3025-3050-ish period. That's just me though.

For now, I'm just waiting hungrily for CM:Davion. I...want...that...book.
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Post by: BrokenMnemonic on 16 November 2016, 14:18:08
Invading Clans was a great book, but it completely fails to deliver the same information as the Combat Manuals. 
It lacks the Alpha Strike rules, it lacks the faction availability lists, and it lacks the famous personalities. 

Also, plenty of new books revisit information from older books.  No reason to hold that against CGL now.
Just to be clear, I wasn't citing Invading Clans as a reason to not do a Combat Manual: Invading Clans, but rather as a reason why I suspect that if a Combat Manual: Invading Clans comes out, it'll be a single tome, in the same way that we got Combat Manual: Mercenaries rather than Combat Manual: Wolf's Dragoons, Combat Manual: Minor Mercenary Units, Combat Manual: Mercenary Units That Died Before Mercenaries Supplemental I came out, and so on.
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Post by: ActionButler on 16 November 2016, 14:21:52
Just to be clear, I wasn't citing Invading Clans as a reason to not do a Combat Manual: Invading Clans, but rather as a reason why I suspect that if a Combat Manual: Invading Clans comes out, it'll be a single tome, in the same way that we got Combat Manual: Mercenaries rather than Combat Manual: Wolf's Dragoons, Combat Manual: Minor Mercenary Units, Combat Manual: Mercenary Units That Died Before Mercenaries Supplemental I came out, and so on.

Understood.
The mistake was, no doubt, on my part and further evidence that I shouldn't post before coffee.

I completely agree with giving the invading Clans a single Combat Manual. 
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Post by: Maingunnery on 16 November 2016, 14:29:23

If there is only going to be a single CM for the Clans, then it should also include the HW Clans (they also have fans).
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Post by: NeonKnight on 16 November 2016, 15:06:49
All I can say is I am TOTALLY BUMMED hearing there is no plans for CM: LIAO/MARIK! I wanted a complete set for the shelf, and for the units I am making.

That said, if all they had was a PDF, i'd buy it, but I would much, much, MUCH rather a dead-tree version.
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Post by: ActionButler on 16 November 2016, 15:26:48
If there is only going to be a single CM for the Clans, then it should also include the HW Clans (they also have fans).

They do, and I would like to see a CM: Homeworld Clans, but I guess that depends on how well the others sell and whether or not the Combat Manuals stay in the 3050 window.  We knew very, very little about the Clans who were left behind until FM Warden and FM Crusader.  I don't know if that is because the info just wasn't written yet, or if it was because the Homeworld contingent didn't play any significant role in the Inner Sphere.  It would be disappointing to not have a CM reference for the likes of the Hells Horses and the Snow Ravens, but even now they aren't hugely important. 

In other words, I agree with you in that I hope we get the Homeworld book.  I'm just not hugely hopeful for it right now. 
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Post by: nckestrel on 16 November 2016, 15:42:15
All I can say is I am TOTALLY BUMMED hearing there is no plans for CM: LIAO/MARIK! I wanted a complete set for the shelf, and for the units I am making.

That said, if all they had was a PDF, i'd buy it, but I would much, much, MUCH rather a dead-tree version.

No announcement doesn't mean no plans.  There are many possible Combat Manuals, CGL can only produce so many at a time (other people want other BattleTech books too).
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 November 2016, 15:43:40
New product announcements haven't been rolling quickly as of late.
I think their trying to catch up on what was already announced.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 16 November 2016, 15:44:37
All I can say is I am TOTALLY BUMMED hearing there is no plans for CM: LIAO/MARIK! I wanted a complete set for the shelf, and for the units I am making.

That said, if all they had was a PDF, i'd buy it, but I would much, much, MUCH rather a dead-tree version.

Field manual draconis combine was 1996. Lyran alliance finished off the major houses in 2000.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 16 November 2016, 15:57:34
No announcement doesn't mean no plans.  There are many possible Combat Manuals, CGL can only produce so many at a time (other people want other BattleTech books too).

And they might just want to see how the other Combat Manuel Manuals sell, as well. If this is a product the market won't support then they probably want to cut their losses early. Factional products are risky.
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Post by: Wrangler on 16 November 2016, 16:04:01
Well What is in the Que to come out...or is still in production.
One Off Products
Recurring Publications
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 November 2016, 16:04:02
Yeah, but you would think they would at least finish the 5 major factions rather than doing a half *** job of it. There are some things you can't stop in the middle of, or if you know things about going to hell and don't think the financials will work then inform the community and tell them you need X number of pre-orders to get the book out in DTF, if not it will be PDF only. At least then we know what to expect. CGL has been good about keep the game interesting but there are just some things they shouldn't start if they can't finish the job. my 2 copper anyway.

Now please please hurry up and release CM Davion!!!
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Post by: nckestrel on 16 November 2016, 16:51:38
*sighs*  And CGL hasn't said the series is stopping, so stop freaking out. Grab a drink, enjoy the drink, stop worrying about problems that don't exist.
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 16 November 2016, 16:58:05
I'm only freaking out that CM Davion is taking too long to hit BC  :P

The other stuff... opinion on my part, but not a freaking out over it. There is only so much CGL will want to announce for now.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 16 November 2016, 17:22:11
*sighs*  And CGL hasn't said the series is stopping, so stop freaking out. Grab a drink, enjoy the drink, stop worrying about problems that don't exist.

Welcome to the Battletech forums! Your first ten posts will require you to complete a captcha, after that your posts will show up normally.  ;D
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Post by: ColBosch on 16 November 2016, 17:24:02
An "unfinished" book series is annoying. A company forced to close because they kept throwing good money after bad is worse.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 16 November 2016, 17:45:24
As a reminder, I just mentioned the PDF-instead-of-DTF thing off the top of my head. No one in any way even remotely associated with CGL has said that was necessary, a possibility, or even being considered. I just thought of some things that have been done in the past year or two in what appears to be an effort to control costs. PDF-only releases and reduced amounts of art/fiction jumped into my head first. There is no reason to assume either of those things would NEED to happen in order to get a CM:Marik or Liao produced.

I was only throwing out my opinion that IF cost was an issue, those were measures CGL has taken in the recent past that wouldn't bother me as much if they were helpful in making a business case for CM:Marik or Liao. If that would bother you, then feel free to say so. Just remember the whole idea came from a random thought I had, and not CGL!
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Post by: NeonKnight on 16 November 2016, 20:17:01
No announcement doesn't mean no plans.  There are many possible Combat Manuals, CGL can only produce so many at a time (other people want other BattleTech books too).

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=55321.msg1272652#msg1272652

Which was Adrian answering with regards to a CM Liao/Marik:

Quote from: Adrian Gideon
There are no plans in the immediate future, so it isn't listed.

So, easy to take that to mean we may never see the said manuals.
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Post by: nckestrel on 16 November 2016, 20:50:57
Immediate future.  The entire series can't come out in the immediate future.  We know the next two.  Anything past that is beyond the immediate future.  Take a deep breath, relax. Two books in a series, plus tie BattleTech Manual, 2nd Succesion War, golden century, and many more books to get through before then. 
Having plans for the next two dates doesn't mean you're breaking up before the third.  Just enjoy the two upcoming and by then you'll have heard more.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 16 November 2016, 21:16:27
Well What is in the Que to come out...or is still in production.
One Off Products
  • Shadows of Faith, by Loren L. Coleman (Novel)
  • Case White, by Victor Milan (Novel)
  • Kell Hounds Ascendant: Three Short Novels by Michael A. Stackpole (Novel)
  • Combat Manual: Steiner
  • Combat Manual: Davion
  • Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars II (E-Publication)
  • Record Sheets: Prototypes Unabridged
  • The Second Succession War
  • Technical Readout: Golden Century (E-Publication)
  • Technical Readout: IrregularTech (E-Publication)
  • ilClan
  • BattleMech Manual - Announced, Not Listed on Coming Attractions
Recurring Publications
  • Milestones
  • OpFor
  • Spotlight On - Currently Still Publishing
  • Gladiator Gazette
  • Touring the Stars - Currently Still Publishing

Of this list CGL can have plenty money from me

I'm not too bothered by the combat manuals but the novels, XTROs, TtS, Spotlight have all been winners so far

Gladiator Gazette, OppFor and Milestones I'll give a go... then probably buy the lot
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Post by: ANS Kamas P81 on 16 November 2016, 21:28:46
So, easy to take that to mean we may never see the said manuals.
Just like we never saw Handbook: House Kurita?
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Post by: NeonKnight on 16 November 2016, 21:30:22
Immediate future.  The entire series can't come out in the immediate future.  We know the next two.  Anything past that is beyond the immediate future.  Take a deep breath, relax. Two books in a series, plus tie BattleTech Manual, 2nd Succesion War, golden century, and many more books to get through before then. 
Having plans for the next two dates doesn't mean you're breaking up before the third.  Just enjoy the two upcoming and by then you'll have heard more.

Nooo.....I want it all....and I want it NOW! :P

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(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/07/07a24058476fe03457820e877e3595a83cd1ad8b31431a2161f7de8871877e30.jpg)

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Post by: Cubby on 16 November 2016, 22:14:47
Immediate future.  The entire series can't come out in the immediate future.  We know the next two.  Anything past that is beyond the immediate future.

(http://www.storytellermark.com/newsletters/images/near_far.jpg)
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Post by: SteelRaven on 17 November 2016, 00:31:07
Think most of this forum relate to a different puppet.

(http://i.imgur.com/IJnxZ3w.gif)
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 November 2016, 02:40:56
Maybe we should ask for a rules clarification on this. Do you mean we get more but not right now or is the sky falling but you want to leave the answer as vague as possible  :D [tickedoff] [AAAH] [##]
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Post by: Sharpnel on 17 November 2016, 03:20:51
Nooo.....I want it all....and I want it NOW! :P

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(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/07/07a24058476fe03457820e877e3595a83cd1ad8b31431a2161f7de8871877e30.jpg)

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I want it all (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rE)
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Post by: Feenix74 on 17 November 2016, 05:27:17
Think most of this forum relate to a different puppet.

(http://i.imgur.com/IJnxZ3w.gif)

I have always thought of us BT fans to be more of a . . .

(https://media.tenor.co/images/b2cdb6b5c6bc417231efd5a2b8f4dbad/raw)
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 17 November 2016, 07:16:43
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Post by: nckestrel on 17 November 2016, 08:51:32
Maybe we should ask for a rules clarification on this. Do you mean we get more but not right now or is the sky falling but you want to leave the answer as vague as possible  :D [tickedoff] [AAAH] [##]

*shakes magic 8-ball* You are doomed. 
Opps, wrong magic 8-ball.  That one was for my D&D campaign.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 17 November 2016, 09:31:24
I want it yesterday!
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Post by: NeonKnight on 17 November 2016, 09:39:37
*shakes magic 8-ball* You are doomed. 
Opps, wrong magic 8-ball.  That one was for my D&D campaign.

THATS why we get the wrong answer folks...they've been using the wrong MAGIC 8-BALL!!
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Post by: sadlerbw on 17 November 2016, 11:18:20
I was just looking at my What's Up With Catalyst? notes from GenCon and I've got it down that the Battlemaster, Marauder, Valkyrie, and Rifleman are the four mechs that will appear in CM:Davion's mini-TRO. I believe the only one of those that hasn't been seen elsewhere is the Rifleman. So, is that still the list that is planned?
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Post by: SteelRaven on 17 November 2016, 13:41:15
Each mech is paired up with a notable pilot. Good money we will see Glen Cox's Crusader in FM:LC but I can only guess about the Rifleman.
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Post by: Wrangler on 17 November 2016, 13:55:46
*shakes magic 8-ball* You are doomed. 
Opps, wrong magic 8-ball.  That one was for my D&D campaign.
Isn't that the Magical Ball of Hate?  DM special edition if i'm not mistaken...

I hope something will come up, I noticed CGL's twitter feed hasn't been updated since October.  :(
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Post by: RotS fan on 17 November 2016, 20:19:54
"Guys, we have some fans being childish here!"
"W-what can we do? Answer them reasonably?"
"NO! LET'S BE EVEN MORE CHILDISH! THAT WILL SURE SHOW THEM!"


Seriously, Beamers? Your posts are no better than the ones you are making fun of.
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Post by: Alexander Knight on 17 November 2016, 20:22:52
Meh, reasonable answers don't seem to work either so whatcha gonna do?
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Post by: nckestrel on 17 November 2016, 20:27:45
"Guys, we have some fans being childish here!"
"W-what can we do? Answer them reasonably?"
"NO! LET'S BE EVEN MORE CHILDISH! THAT WILL SURE SHOW THEM!"


Seriously, Beamers? Your posts are no better than the ones you are making fun of.

What do you want to know?
Combat Manuals Davion and Steiner are next.
For the rest, there's the Upcoming Releases page with a long list.
I don't have much to add other than yes, things are being worked on, particularly  what's on the upcoming releases page, and some things that aren't ready to be talked about yet.
Just takes time. 
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 November 2016, 20:52:39
On a more serious note, when the devs answer question such as the status of CM Marik and Liao they can be a little more helpful at least. Leaving an answer to be interpreted as they may never be made does tend to scare us sheep. Even an answer of, the first two did well but we want to make sure the next two do just as well before announcing the next bunch would be nice. I know they have a full plate but anything that people can twist to doom n gloom is not a very helpful answer. Especially when many forum members act like a high school girls rumor mill  :P
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Post by: Weirdo on 17 November 2016, 21:00:17
...anything that people can twist to doom n gloom is not a very helpful answer.

There is no such thing as an answer that cannot be twisted to doom and gloom. I'm going to assume that you are not in favor of a return to the days of zero information ever, so incomprehensible misinterpretations are going to happen.
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Post by: sadlerbw on 17 November 2016, 21:07:56
I doubt there even IS a status on CM:Marik or Liao. They could very easily be waiting to see how Davion and Steiner do before making any decision. So, the Devs could very easily have nothing to say because thay haven't had to make any decision about those two,potential books yet. In fact, that would be my guess as to where things really stand. I'm fine with that, but I don't mind playing the what-if game either. I just try to treat all the speculation as another form of entertainment that the game provides me!
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 17 November 2016, 21:26:54
Let the 75th Speculation Games begin!  :crazy2:
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Post by: I am Belch II on 17 November 2016, 22:47:04
It's never fast enough.
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Post by: VhenRa on 18 November 2016, 00:01:55
Only thing I am dreading in CM: Davion is the section on the Deneb Light Cavalry. My least favourite part of First Succession War.


Apart from that... yeah, it can't be fast enough.
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Post by: CungrVanck on 18 November 2016, 07:45:57
I should find a way to make anti anxiety pills shaped like little BattleMechs....I would make a fortune on these boards!

While I can always use more BattleTech books, I am more than happy to wait.  CGL has been doing some great work lately!  As for my fellow fans, relax.  The world is not ending just yet.  That is scheduled for Tuesday, M*transmission error, Comstar apologizes for the inconvenience*.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 November 2016, 08:54:39
Each mech is paired up with a notable pilot. Good money we will see Glen Cox's Crusader in FM:HS but I can only guess about the Rifleman.

FM:HS  ???
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Post by: Maingunnery on 18 November 2016, 10:05:08
"Guys, we have some fans being childish here!"
"W-what can we do? Answer them reasonably?"
"NO! LET'S BE EVEN MORE CHILDISH! THAT WILL SURE SHOW THEM!"


Seriously, Beamers? Your posts are no better than the ones you are making fun of.
How is that a bad thing?
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Post by: ColBosch on 18 November 2016, 10:09:58
How is that a bad thing?

It is the wrong kind of fun.
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Post by: SteelRaven on 18 November 2016, 13:00:03
FM:HS  ???
Sorry, it was late.
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Post by: Weirdo on 18 November 2016, 13:56:19
FM:HS  ???

Field Manual: (Clan) Havarti Squirrel.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 18 November 2016, 14:08:53
Field Manual: (Clan) Havarti Squirrel.

That's silly. They were absorbed by Clan Rabid Moose.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 18 November 2016, 14:11:33
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c3/24/87/c32487776633e10f39342d3e85c135b9.jpg)
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Post by: Mech42ace on 18 November 2016, 15:11:13
I should find a way to make anti anxiety pills shaped like little BattleMechs....I would make a fortune on these boards!
You would from me! I only take medicine if it's shaped like stuff.  :D
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Post by: theothersarah on 18 November 2016, 19:22:52
"hey guys what's new or upcoming"

"Holy crap calm down! These crazy fans am I right? So demanding! There's just no pleasing them"

is essentially how things work if you ask questions here. I'm used to it so whatever, but if you're new it can be kind of jarring.

edit: best thing to do is just check the new products thread occasionally because that's the best info you'll get from Catalyst
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Post by: nckestrel on 18 November 2016, 19:29:22
Here's a (give or take) a years worth of upcoming releases.
What, there's nothing listed after that? BattleTech is doomed!

Ask away about upcoming releases, I only push back when people claim the end is nigh.

Hopefully the Turning Point I wrote shows up there sometime :).
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Post by: Empyrus on 18 November 2016, 19:42:51
Hopefully the Turning Point I wrote shows up there sometime :).

About the St. Ives conflict? I recall that someone suggested there could be a TP about that earlier this year.

If so, bought.
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Post by: Flieger on 18 November 2016, 20:13:22
About the St. Ives conflict? I recall that someone suggested there could be a TP about that earlier this year.

If so, bought.

Suggested was the Battle of St. Ives, and indeed I'd buy that at once. I mean this was a huge battle with a very interesting line-up, inlcuding Kai Allard-Liao, Adam Steiner, Nova Cats, and elite Capellan units. Yet we do not know very much about it.
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Post by: nckestrel on 18 November 2016, 21:01:24
The one I wrote works well with the first four Combat Manuals.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Empyrus on 18 November 2016, 21:18:20
So, maybe some 4th SW Kurita front thing, a Ronin War thing or something from the War of '39? At least that's all I can think of, unless theres something during the 3rd SW, or earlier.
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Post by: Cubby on 18 November 2016, 22:09:25
Suggested was the Battle of St. Ives, and indeed I'd buy that at once. I mean this was a huge battle with a very interesting line-up, inlcuding Kai Allard-Liao, Adam Steiner, Nova Cats, and elite Capellan units. Yet we do not know very much about it.

About the St. Ives conflict? I recall that someone suggested there could be a TP about that earlier this year.

If so, bought.

Yeah, pretty sure that was me.

I've got a few reviews of some SR Legends files to do at the moment, and then some version of a TP: St. Ives War could be on my list. BUT, don't expect it in the immediate future. The original ms is completely written, but it was supposed to be 1/3rd of the long-defunct Brush Wars II. So it's thousands of words, possibly 10,000 wds, too long for the TP format. Fixing that isn't as easy as just doing a highlight/delete.

Plus that's just the fluff, I'd still have to develop the tracks and any related rules text. And then there's the small matter of, you know, TPTB actually liking it enough to publish it, editing and fact check, design and layout. Not to mention other, more pressing/interesting BT projects consuming the bandwidth I'd otherwise be using for this.

But it's good to know there's an audience (of at least two people!) for this. The battle for St. Ives itself certainly deserves "sourcebook" treatment. Loren described an interesting conflict in the novels, the mish-mash of units, the first attempt by the Second SL to do some meaningful peacekeeping, the legendary Kai fresh from the Clan Homeworlds and trying to hold back the tide and defend his home...there's a lot there.


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Post by: Empyrus on 18 November 2016, 22:25:59
St. Ives War is a favorite of mine as the The Capellan Solution was one of the first BT novels i read. So I'm very interested in books about the war.

What else was Brush Wars II to have? If you're at liberty to tell.

Wars of the Republic Era is BW III, no? I think someone once said it was supposed to be that...
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Post by: bobthecoward on 18 November 2016, 22:28:32
Yeah, pretty sure that was me.

I've got a few reviews of some SR Legends files to do at the moment, and then some version of a TP: St. Ives War could be on my list. BUT, don't expect it in the immediate future. The original ms is completely written, but it was supposed to be 1/3rd of the long-defunct Brush Wars II. So it's thousands of words, possibly 10,000 wds, too long for the TP format. Fixing that isn't as easy as just doing a highlight/delete.

Plus that's just the fluff, I'd still have to develop the tracks and any related rules text. And then there's the small matter of, you know, TPTB actually liking it enough to publish it, editing and fact check, design and layout. Not to mention other, more pressing/interesting BT projects consuming the bandwidth I'd otherwise be using for this.

But it's good to know there's an audience (of at least two people!) for this. The battle for St. Ives itself certainly deserves "sourcebook" treatment. Loren described an interesting conflict in the novels, the mish-mash of units, the first attempt by the Second SL to do some meaningful peacekeeping, the legendary Kai fresh from the Clan Homeworlds and trying to hold back the tide and defend his home...there's a lot there.

The TROs listed for golden century and irregulartech have a middle size between an xtro and full TRO. Maybe there is a place between a TP and larger book for a st Ives war.
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Post by: Cubby on 18 November 2016, 22:37:45
What else was Brush Wars II to have? If you're at liberty to tell.


I think Herb said it awhile back--the other intended pieces were Operation GUERRERO and the First Ghost Bear-Combine War. I have no idea what the status of those chapters was/is. I was brand-new to being a BT contributor at the time, and was more concerned with not botching my own, first assignment.

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Wars of the Republic Era is BW III, no? I think someone once said it was supposed to be that...

That definitely was Herb, here (http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50379.msg1201849#msg1201849).
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: The Eagle on 18 November 2016, 23:43:30
Guerrero.  You silly scumbags.  I would pay double, triple even, the cover price for Brush Wars II if it has Guerrero in it.  Is there any chance of "now defunct" can become "re-working?"  Like, ever?
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Post by: Weirdo on 18 November 2016, 23:48:43
If you're willing to wait long enough, the odds get really good. While I know nothing on the subject, I suspect we'll have less of a wait for this than we did for proper Marauder art. O0
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Post by: SCC on 19 November 2016, 05:21:58
If you're willing to wait long enough, the odds get really good. While I know nothing on the subject, I suspect we'll have less of a wait for this than we did for proper Marauder art. O0
I think that how long they want to put off ilClan might play a part
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Post by: Takiro on 19 November 2016, 06:23:38
Does anyone know when Betrayal of Ideals will be out in DTF? Looking forward to that!
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 November 2016, 09:50:28
About the St. Ives conflict?

I already did that one. Years ago. It was really cheap.
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Post by: Cubby on 19 November 2016, 10:30:50
The TROs listed for golden century and irregulartech have a middle size between an xtro and full TRO. Maybe there is a place between a TP and larger book for a st Ives war.

Maybe. I'd be in favor of any format that allows me to salvage as much as possible from the old draft. But my sense from the little bit that I know about current BT production and plans is that fitting that content into an existing product line would give it a better chance of seeing the light of day, than pitching an entirely new product line for just this one entry.

Guerrero.  You silly scumbags.  I would pay double, triple even, the cover price for Brush Wars II if it has Guerrero in it.  Is there any chance of "now defunct" can become "re-working?"  Like, ever?

Above my pay grade. The fact I've been given license to turn my chapter into something else means BWII is probably not going back on the table. That's not to say the other two conflicts couldn't appear as a TP or something else at some point.
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Post by: Cubby on 19 November 2016, 10:40:15
I already did that one. Years ago. It was really cheap.

And fun!
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Post by: Empyrus on 19 November 2016, 10:44:22


I think Herb said it awhile back--the other intended pieces were Operation GUERRERO and the First Ghost Bear-Combine War. I have no idea what the status of those chapters was/is. I was brand-new to being a BT contributor at the time, and was more concerned with not botching my own, first assignment.

Guerrero and GB-DC war too?
Man... I think i really would've liked BW II. (I don't actually have BW I, it is on my "to get" list once i get around making an order online, the book's still available in some places apparently.)

Ghost Bear-Combine War is one of the conflicts that interest me quite a lot too. Path of Glory is also among the first BT novels i read.
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Post by: Daryk on 19 November 2016, 10:51:17
I picked up Brush Wars for Anton's Revolt and was not disappointed!
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Post by: Gaiiten on 19 November 2016, 10:58:51
Burrock Absorption and Adder-Spirit conflict (invasion of York and raging conflict on York for years) would be an interesting pre-War of Reaving inner-Clan conflict.
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Post by: The Eagle on 19 November 2016, 11:19:13
Burrock Absorption and Adder-Spirit conflict (invasion of York and raging conflict on York for years) would be an interesting pre-War of Reaving inner-Clan conflict.

Boom.  Absorption War, Operation Guerrero, First Bear-Combine War.  Brush Wars II, coming to a battlefield near you in 2017.  Well, probably not, but I would buy that in DTF and digital so that I can enjoy my two favorite factions (Mariks & Spirits) in action anywhere at any time.
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Post by: Wrangler on 19 November 2016, 11:52:23
Don't get me wrong.  However, I would like stop living in the past, given how much resources it takes get stuff out. I'd like see things going forwards.

I like see stuff we got in queue come out and be done with it.
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Post by: Gaiiten on 19 November 2016, 12:51:10
Boom.  Absorption War, Operation Guerrero, First Bear-Combine War.  Brush Wars II, coming to a battlefield near you in 2017.  Well, probably not, but I would buy that in DTF and digital so that I can enjoy my two favorite factions (Mariks & Spirits) in action anywhere at any time.
It would be a very good mix, Great Inner Sphere and Clan Homeworlds conflicts.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 19 November 2016, 18:29:21
2017 is going to be a great year.
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Post by: Empyrus on 19 November 2016, 19:34:34
What cruelty! My local gaming store has Lance Packs on sale, for 10€ piece vs 24€ they're usually.

And i was going to order more minis next Friday from Ral Partha Europe... Now i guess i need to do get extra Lance Packs and a limited selection of metallic minis to fill my planned Donegal Guards and Crucis Lancer units...
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Post by: kurtl000 on 19 November 2016, 22:24:13
So I guess this place is a ghost town is because Catalyst is preparing for Mechcon? Hope Catalyst puts on a good showing because lately it seems like they don't even exist.  The Line Developer seems more interested in posting on Harebrained Schemes forum than here, which is pretty pathetic. Now he doesn't even do that anymore.
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Post by: Kit deSummersville on 19 November 2016, 22:58:40
BattleTech doesn't currently have a line developer. The senior line developer is splitting his duties between his normal job and covering for the lack of a line developer.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Wrangler on 20 November 2016, 01:39:21
Question: With Randall having to wear 2 hats, hows that effecting the Battletech game line? Things gotten slower?
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Post by: kurtl000 on 20 November 2016, 10:22:44
Question: With Randall having to wear 2 hats, hows that effecting the Battletech game line? Things gotten slower?
Can things get any slower?
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Post by: Gaiiten on 20 November 2016, 10:44:57
Could be Herbs chance again. If he wants (and if they ask him very friendly)  ;)
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Post by: Sartris on 20 November 2016, 10:49:25
Can things get any slower?

yes
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Post by: kurtl000 on 20 November 2016, 11:35:51
If things got any slower it would be dead.  Yes yes im sure people will come running to CGL's defense but it does not bode well when some of the best employees they've ever had willingly leave.  *waits to be shouted down that everything is fine and things couldnt be better*
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Post by: Sartris on 20 November 2016, 12:11:27
2016 saw the release of five print books. that's about average for CGL's tenure. 2017 should be similar (2ndSW, IlClan, CM: Davion, CM: Steiner seem like relative locks). Dead was 2014 when we got two minor print releases.
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Post by: theothersarah on 20 November 2016, 12:14:38
The rate of releases is the same as ever and they've put out some very good products lately. The fact that they've gone so long without a dedicated line developer is curious, though. I don't know what that means internally but I hope it isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Post by: Empyrus on 20 November 2016, 12:20:32
2016 saw the release of five print books. that's about average for CGL's tenure. 2017 should be similar (2ndSW, IlClan, CM: Davion, CM: Steiner seem like relative locks). Dead was 2014 when we got two minor print releases.

BattleMech Manual goes for the next year probably too. Unless it will be a surprise release this year but that seems unlikely.
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Post by: I am Belch II on 20 November 2016, 15:56:00
Sometimes there has been some release a week or two before Christmas holidays, so maybe.
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Post by: Dragon Cat on 20 November 2016, 16:53:57
A touring the stars or XTRO before end of year would be sweet
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Post by: pheonixstorm on 20 November 2016, 23:21:33
Does Randall even post on the BT forums??
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Post by: CungrVanck on 21 November 2016, 07:54:07
Absorption War, Operation Guerrero, First Bear-Combine War. 

I would be one of the first to buy that book!

Yeah, I was sad when I heard that Brush Wars II was cancelled.  But, if we can get the sections of that book in other forms, then I would be quite happy!  Just have to be patient.
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Post by: Wrangler on 21 November 2016, 08:42:02
Wars of the Republic Era WAS Brush Wars (II)....

Anyways, We've gotten alot stuff.  I have to admit there hasn't been anything capturing the collective imagination of the player base as of late i think.

Spot Light is good sign of things to come with it's pure view of the past present and future of a unit (if it survived that long.) I wish there was more meat to Touring the Stars, 2 snip of scenarios to be able to be played be make it worth it to get more mileage out of it.

If they conclude, i was going print it up and make into one book.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 21 November 2016, 08:42:46
Does Randall even post on the BT forums??

I don't think so. I don't think I have noticed because Adrian is such a great ambassador.
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Post by: bobthecoward on 21 November 2016, 08:47:09
Wars of the Republic Era WAS Brush Wars (II)....

Anyways, We've gotten alot stuff.  I have to admit there hasn't been anything capturing the collective imagination of the player base as of late i think.

Spot Light is good sign of things to come with it's pure view of the past present and future of a unit (if it survived that long.) I wish there was more meat to Touring the Stars, 2 snip of scenarios to be able to be played be make it worth it to get more mileage out of it.

If they conclude, i was going print it up and make into one book.

First succession wars wasn't that long ago.
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Post by: Lorcan Nagle on 21 November 2016, 08:50:12
First succession wars wasn't that long ago.

And since then, we got Combat Manual: Kurita and Campaign Operations.  That's three books in the last three months
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Post by: Empyrus on 21 November 2016, 09:23:27
Wars of the Republic Era WAS Brush Wars (II)....
In release order and function. But it was pitched as BW III AFAIK.
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Post by: Wrangler on 21 November 2016, 12:10:02
In release order and function. But it was pitched as BW III AFAIK.
Ahh...where? This first time i've heard it ever referred to as BW III informally.
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Post by: Empyrus on 21 November 2016, 12:18:20
Ahh...where? This first time i've heard it ever referred to as BW III informally.
Cubby linked this on the previous page when i wondered about this: http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50379.msg1201849#msg1201849
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Post by: Gaiiten on 21 November 2016, 14:01:59
Let us wait and see.
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Post by: JadeHellbringer on 21 November 2016, 14:12:58
I don't think so. I don't think I have noticed because Adrian is such a great ambassador.

Truth was spoken.  O0
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Post by: CungrVanck on 21 November 2016, 14:22:41
Truth was spoken.  O0

Indeed.  Adrian and his great work is appreciated!

Keep up the good work guys and gals!
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Post by: SCC on 21 November 2016, 18:06:18
I think the problem for some people is that CGL doesn't understand the motto of Miles Vorkosigan
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Post by: Adrian Gideon on 21 November 2016, 18:25:17
Thanks for the kind words guys. Things will slow down slightly, as I've hit some snags in my personal life so it'll be a couple weeks while I catch up with other work and things so I can get the PDF lines rolling out again regularly. As for physical products, we know that the BattleMech Manual, IlClan, Second Succession War, Combat Manual: Davion and some form or other of the Introductory Box Set is coming. But please understand those products are forecast over the course of many months, not weeks.

I apologize if I'm slow to address any concerns, here or elsewhere, but I'm definitely here.

I think the problem for some people is that CGL doesn't understand the motto of Miles Vorkosigan
Correct, I have no clue what you're talking about.

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Post by: Dragon Cat on 21 November 2016, 18:55:48
I don't think so. I don't think I have noticed because Adrian is such a great ambassador.

Agreed I think Knightmare and the others do well too I appreciate all their hard work. 

It's maybe a good thing we're all pumped to get new products that we're itching to get the next one straight after something is released it shows interest in the game and universe

 Even though I think the developers sometimes just want to shout SHUT UP.  I can't blame them as if there's one little bit wrong we (as customers and fans) kick up stink which also doesn't look good  if I was spending money on something to sell to other people I'd want it to be perfect too
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Post by: NeonKnight on 21 November 2016, 19:22:19
Thanks for the kind words guys. Things will slow down slightly, as I've hit some snags in my personal life so it'll be a couple weeks while I catch up with other work and things so I can get the PDF lines rolling out again regularly. As for physical products, we know that the BattleMech Manual, IlClan, Second Succession War, Combat Manual: Davion and some form or other of the Introductory Box Set is coming. But please understand those products are forecast over the course of many months, not weeks.

SWEET!!!!
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Post by: truetanker on 21 November 2016, 21:38:09
What do you want to know?

When's the Fifth Successor War gonna start? Or is that too far head?

TT
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Post by: nckestrel on 21 November 2016, 21:50:45
When's the Fifth Successor War gonna start? Or is that too far head?

TT

Yesterday.
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Post by: Wrangler on 21 November 2016, 21:58:25
I'm glad your able talk to us, Adrian.  I hope things work out for you and thank you again for your hard work.
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Post by: ColBosch on 21 November 2016, 22:14:35
When's the Fifth Successor War gonna start? Or is that too far head?

That was the Clan Invasion, so 3049. The Sixth was the Jihad.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: SCC on 22 November 2016, 01:27:33
Correct, I have no clue what you're talking about.
Forward Momentum.
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Post by: skiltao on 22 November 2016, 02:06:22
That was the Clan Invasion, so 3049. The Sixth was the Jihad.

I still say those are just different phases in a single war lasting from 3050 through 3080.
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Post by: JadedFalcon on 22 November 2016, 02:35:53
I still say those are just different phases in a single war lasting from 3050 through 3080.

You could also argue that there has only been a single, ongoing conflict from 2766 to 3150, all starting with the opening of a late Christmas present. (Perhaps Battletech is secretly a moral story about the dangers of materialistic holidays...)

At least the next "many months" hold some things to look forward to.
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Post by: mbear on 22 November 2016, 08:28:47
I think the problem for some people is that CGL doesn't understand the motto of Miles Vorkosigan
Correct, I have no clue what you're talking about.

The reward for a doing a good job is a more difficult job.
Title: Re: New and Upcoming Releases, Vol. VII: Center Torso hit!
Post by: Kit deSummersville on 22 November 2016, 08:41:02
Forward Momentum.

Looks like Facebook couldn't contain Vaguebooking. I blame Mark Zuckerberg. Maybe I can kill him off in a horrible way in the next thing I write.
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Post by: Weirdo on 22 November 2016, 09:38:08
Fifty pages, so time to lock. No vaguebooking in the next one!