Mars Rising: Marian Hegemony IV

[Adacas]

I think this is getting into a language problem.  So, afawk in 3145 the Hegemony makes- IndiMech Centurions, Centurion 9H, and Centurion 9rs?  Weirdo was not saying they quit sending CN9-H to the Legions, but that from the sound, the fluff says the IndiMech Centurions are sold to client states and used by the Legions in training environments.

I am hoping they get a heavy . . . pretty sure the MoC got a Classic confirmed, the Taurians got the Marauder 2R and follow up 2T along with a Warhammer.  MoC did get that Shadow Hawk like I mentioned though I do not recall if they were getting any other meds or the Taurians did.

Look what I read in the Fluff is that the three Centurion designs are manufactured with different qualities of material, all three are militiamech, although the more modern design I think the H3H is almost almost a mech in its own right with Ferrofiber, ejection system and UCA / 10, in addition to the ubiquitous RL, to that version more than Militiamech and I would elevate it to a local version of Centurion with RL, a mech between Tech 3039 and tech SL (for the UCA / 10 and the Armor)

The thing about the militia mechs sold to the Independent Marik Planets, could have been a good move but I don't see rebel movements for hegemony of some of those worlds in which these political / cultural / military moves have been made, so at the moment I don't see what that policy has achieved something

[Colt Ward]

I do not have the book, so I was just comparing whatever was in Irregulars, the CN9-H and the CN9-Ar (HPPC/LPPC Jihad version).  The last one is SW level chassis just has the Heavy/Light PPCs as a difference.

[Adacas]

I do not have the book, so I was just comparing whatever was in Irregulars, the CN9-H and the CN9-Ar (HPPC/LPPC Jihad version).  The last one is SW level chassis just has the Heavy/Light PPCs as a difference.

In the Militiamech Versions of Irregulars

Version 1 CN9-H2 is all Industrial Chassis created in the Hegemony, LBX-10 2 medium lasers and RL
The Version 2 CN9-H2H I think they do an improvement to put an ejection system and little else
The Version 3 CN9-H3H is the one that receives the most technological improvement and it is made at a time when the Testudo is already being built since it receives its FF armor from the same factory, replaces the LBX10 with an Ultra / 10, and does not say anything else. so I calculate it will keep the lasers and the RL

[Colt Ward]

Ok, so the H2 is absolutely a trainer . . . the H2H is a upgrade to what was given before, and the H3H is a further improvement.

I am really digging the idea of Marian legions being filled with Centurions.

[Adacas]

Ok, so the H2 is absolutely a trainer . . . the H2H is a upgrade to what was given before, and the H3H is a further improvement.

I am really digging the idea of Marian legions being filled with Centurions.

As long as they are mech and not militiamech I do not object, according to the fluff of the H3H they provided those mechs to the III Legio, so I have no idea if it is a Militiamech.


The only thing that could be said in favor is that from what the Fluff says, the Sales team of Marian Arms and ATC have very long arms and connections, exporting H2H as far as Irian, and making all planetary militia of the independent marik worlds have an assortment of CN9-H2 and H2H wholesale, and that this happened even with the opposition of the Rim Commonality, apparently the Ignatius Woman's Family collaborated in the distribution and sale and are more loyal among yes, your pockets

[Weirdo]

Has anyone tried these machines out yet against likely opponents? Obviously you can't just go one-for-one, but what happens if you build an OPFOR and then take Centurions until the BVs match? Do they work well in large groups?

If not these, how about the base -H model we've had for a while now?

[Adacas]

A Centurions surge might work, but it depends on many factors

What is the mission is the first factor
How is the enemy made up?
What level of Veteran is the enemy and what are your pilots?
Ground

If the terrain is urban, your veteran pilots, the green enemy, you may have a chance to win
If it's open terrain and the pilots' experience level is balanced and they have a couple of mechs flanking the enemy, I don't think they have too many Chances, they are moderately slow and they don't have jumpjets.

[Arkansas Warrior]

I am really digging the idea of Marian legions being filled with Centurions.

They need some Legionnaires for the Centurions to lead.

[Adacas]

Give me some good Gladiators and Icarus as an accompaniment and some Cataprachti would look good more

[Weirdo]

Since we're just testing out the machines, assume identical pilot skills, and generic maps, nothing specialized. I'm solely asking about their performance when you just smash some mechs together, nothing fancy.

[Adacas]

Since we're just testing out the machines, assume identical pilot skills, and generic maps, nothing specialized. I'm solely asking about their performance when you just smash some mechs together, nothing fancy.

Humm the retrotech I tried it a bit and it did not tell me anything, I tested it with 4/5 pilots, in a generic map using a maniple of 3 Centurions and 2 Withworth survived a Withworh and a Centurion this very damaged, on the other side there were four chosen mechs From the list of Marik mechs (the one used by the Protectors, I don't remember what it is), one fell from the spear and two were damaged, the spear was a Bloodhound, an Eagle, a Trebuchet and a Shadow Hawk

I am left wondering whether to test it in closed terrain, be it closed forest or urban terrain, that's why I put it in the other post, the next opportunity I will try using an amniple with the 4 Retrotech designs and the three Militiamech accompanied by some mech of more command weight.

[ArkRoyalRavager]

There's nothing saying the Hegemony doesn't build full BattleMechs. The fact that these mechs are only described as being sent to militia units(aside from the HE) implies they don't need to issue them to the regular Legions, meaning they have access to better.

I'm still glad that the Hegemony has their own tech base, instead of playing just like everybody else on the tabletop. Interesting is always better than merely advanced.

RLs can only have so much mileage before ceasing to have an effect.

[truetanker]

I have a minor question.

I'm putting a new version of a MH DA Cohort and so I need some help.

Running a Maniple of Infantry" Century of BA and another of Foot Platoon, Rifle.

Maniple of consisting of 4 Prowler Support and a Prowler ECM. ( Still looking for other vehicles... )

But my question is about mechs.

So far I am running a Marauder II-4H, a Hermit Crab-15, a pair of Razorback-9T's and a single Centrurion-10J in the first Century.

But the Second I'm having trouble with, I want to include more of a Indirect firesupport Century, but with some shortrange firepower.

Any suggestions?

TT

[Saint]

Hmm
How about
Archer 4M
Dervish 6Mr
Apollo 1M
Hunchback 4J
Brigand, Locust, or Commando for a spotter.

[Ruger]

RLs can only have so much mileage before ceasing to have an effect.

That’s one of the reasons I’m so wanting to love the Marian Centurions, but finding it hard to do so.

Maybe if they had LRM-5’s or better yet, MML-5’s.

Ruger

[Weirdo]

RLs can only have so much mileage before ceasing to have an effect.

I have no clue what this post is trying to say in response to the post it is quoting.

[Arkansas Warrior]

I have a minor question.

I'm putting a new version of a MH DA Cohort and so I need some help.

Running a Maniple of Infantry" Century of BA and another of Foot Platoon, Rifle.

Maniple of consisting of 4 Prowler Support and a Prowler ECM. ( Still looking for other vehicles... )

But my question is about mechs.

So far I am running a Marauder II-4H, a Hermit Crab-15, a pair of Razorback-9T's and a single Centrurion-10J in the first Century.

But the Second I'm having trouble with, I want to include more of a Indirect firesupport Century, but with some shortrange firepower.

Any suggestions?

TT

Does it have to be Mechs? A Century or Testudos would be pretty much perfect for that description.

[truetanker]

Does it have to be Mechs? A Century or Testudos would be pretty much perfect for that description.

Very tempting, but over heavy on munch.

I want to enjoy my destructions, not murder the terrain.

5 Myrmidon w/ LRM Gun Trailers?

TT

[Ruger]

Very tempting, but over heavy on munch.

I want to enjoy my destructions, not murder the terrain.

5 Myrmidon w/ LRM Gun Trailers?

TT

Could always do a mix of Whitworth and/or Trebuchet BattleMechs. Lots of LRM’s and medium lasers.

Ruger

[truetanker]

Archer-8M
Archer-8M
Trebuchet-7M
Dervish-6Mr
Cyclops-11-H

Or is that to weird?

Looking for " Old, but not obsolete. "

TT

[ArkRoyalRavager]

I have no clue what this post is trying to say in response to the post it is quoting.

By saying the Hegemony has its own tech base, do you mean the RL spam and low tech?

[ArkRoyalRavager]

That’s one of the reasons I’m so wanting to love the Marian Centurions, but finding it hard to do so.

Maybe if they had LRM-5’s or better yet, MML-5’s.

Ruger

MMLs would be nice and easy to retrofit.

[Ruger]

MMLs would be nice and easy to retrofit.

I got to thinking about that. Maybe MRM’s would actually be the better and more logical upgrade to the rocket launchers?

Ruger

[Weirdo]

By saying the Hegemony has its own tech base, do you mean the RL spam and low tech?

Rockets are fun for flavor, but I'm specifically referring to the Hegemony's mix of primitive, intro, and modern tech. Once the desperation of the Jihad ended no other large power had such a diverse tech base, meaning Marian forces are unique on the tabletop. This uniqueness is the only thing that really prevents them from being ’just another non-Clan faction, it doesn't matter which you choose'.

The Escorpion Imperio was in the same boat for a while, but by the time they switched to a more tolerable name they'd also homogenized themselves into utter blandness, being largely indistinguishable from any 3050s Clan. It is my hope that the Marian Hegemony avoids this fate.

[Colt Ward]

a single Centrurion-10J in the first Century.

Huh?

[Arkansas Warrior]

Archer-8M
Archer-8M
Trebuchet-7M
Dervish-6Mr
Cyclops-11-H

Or is that to weird?

Looking for " Old, but not obsolete. "

TT

Not bad.  I might look at swapping the Archers for Orions to beef up the short range punch a little.  ON1-Ms are a century old at this point, but still pack an LRM-20 each, plus NARC and an LBX10.  Don’t like NARC? The -MA uses Artemis instead.  Want to boost the long-range lunch a bit? The -MB trades the AC for an LGR.  More short range punch? The -MD carries a RAC-5 instead of the LBX.  Mix and match if you like.  Being close to the FWL, century-old used Orion’s ought to be easy to come by.


In the same vein, the ON2-M came out early in the FCCW and carries an LRM-15 w/Artemis and a Gauss Rifle.  The ARC-8M is a really nice Archer, though.

[Warship]

What is the Centrurion-10J?

[Kerfuffin(925)]

What is the Centrurion-10J?

its one from Shrapnel #2

[Colt Ward]

AH yeah, I thought I had seen it and i was flipping through- I knew it was in reference to a MCG variant that got canonized.  But I knew the RecGuides had not done Centurions.

But it is also going to be a rare bird for the Hegemony . . . especially since it is a different chassis than what they make.

[truetanker]

Huh?

http://masterunitlist.info/Unit/Card/7696?skill=4
Shrapnel #2

Keeping the Centurion as the only advanced unit in this unit.

But I did think of the Orions... but they don't have that long punch that the other LRM carriers have...

Also, the 'Bucket and Dervish jump with the 'Bucket using the Narc and the Dervish in bodyguard role. Both can backstab if they need too. Gonna run the Cyclops most of the time under called in ' Light Metal Rain '.

TT