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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1230 on: 29 February 2024, 22:31:39 »
We actually got a bit of that in "Tears of Blood", an old BattleCorps story by Randall Bills. I quite enjoyed it. Our first real experience with what it's like to be a ProtoMech pilot.
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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1231 on: 29 February 2024, 23:30:56 »
We actually got a bit of that in "Tears of Blood", an old BattleCorps story by Randall Bills. I quite enjoyed it. Our first real experience with what it's like to be a ProtoMech pilot.

ooo, nice, is this story still available ?

So far the only other Protomech stories is the Hell's Horses one, and the Scorpion Empire one

Going forward into ilClan would be interesting to see perhaps a Snow Raven one

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« Reply #1232 on: 01 March 2024, 14:23:01 »
BTW it is interesting that the Spirits got help when the Protomech Pilot phenotype was created - by the Cloud Cobras. It was another joint venture.
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« Reply #1233 on: 01 March 2024, 19:40:00 »
BTW it is interesting that the Spirits got help when the Protomech Pilot phenotype was created - by the Cloud Cobras. It was another joint venture.

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« Reply #1234 on: 05 March 2024, 15:29:47 »
after the trade of warships and mechs i'm surprised that there wasn't more activity between the clans

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« Reply #1235 on: 05 March 2024, 19:27:59 »
after the trade of warships and mechs i'm surprised that there wasn't more activity between the clans

The Blood Spirits did have contact with some. They enjoyed good relations with the Fire Mandrills and the Snow Ravens and had trade with the Diamond Sharks. But they took the infighting of the Clans personally.  They were great friends if you never betrayed them. The sad part is earning there trust wasn't easy and most Clans just didn't care about the Blood Spirits enough to try.
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« Reply #1236 on: 15 March 2024, 16:35:51 »
Did the Spirit's ever have a joint venture with the Hell Horse's to create vehicle /Mechs or even joint raids  with both clans love of vehiclesdespite the destruction of Symth -Jewel Kindraa

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« Reply #1237 on: 15 March 2024, 16:41:26 »
Nope. The Spirits had no love for the Horses at all, specifically because of what happened with the Smythe-Jewels.
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« Reply #1238 on: 15 March 2024, 17:14:05 »
Nope. The Spirits had no love for the Horses at all, specifically because of what happened with the Smythe-Jewels.

They had it coming too.

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1239 on: 15 March 2024, 21:32:13 »
The Blood Spirits did have contact with some. They enjoyed good relations with the Fire Mandrills and the Snow Ravens and had trade with the Diamond Sharks. But they took the infighting of the Clans personally.  They were great friends if you never betrayed them. The sad part is earning there trust wasn't easy and most Clans just didn't care about the Blood Spirits enough to try.

Well said the spirits really were ride or die for their very few true friends

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« Reply #1240 on: 16 March 2024, 13:55:18 »
Well said the spirits really were ride or die for their very few true friends

I honestly had a theory that Nicky K originally planned to join the Spirits and have them act as his Clan but there lack of success in comparison to the Wolves had him join them instead. It's why they were named for a idea rather than a animal.
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« Reply #1241 on: 16 March 2024, 14:32:22 »
I honestly had a theory that Nicky K originally planned to join the Spirits and have them act as his Clan but there lack of success in comparison to the Wolves had him join them instead. It's why they were named for a idea rather than a animal.

I doubt that was the case, honestly. Nicholas married Jennifer (sister of the Wolf Khan) before he joined the Wolves, and between that and Andery being a part of the Wolves, it makes more sense that he'd join the Clan where his strongest personal ties were. Plus the Spirits were named for an idea because Colleen Schmitt championed that idea long before the Clans came to be, thanks to the influence of her grandmother. It was the driving force of her entire life.
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« Reply #1242 on: 18 March 2024, 05:56:00 »
I honestly had a theory that Nicky K originally planned to join the Spirits and have them act as his Clan but there lack of success in comparison to the Wolves had him join them instead. It's why they were named for a idea rather than a animal.

I wouldn't say the Spirits had a lack of success. They managed to hold the task force for Arcadia together (as intended btw) and they also gave a good showing of their military skills (though often cleaning up the mess the Vipers got themselves into). Oddly enough the Spirits seemed to be quite cordial with the Adders at this point. But bad decisions (or rather bad mouthing) pushed them into isolation. Which is sad considering their first Khan was a descendent from the last Blackwatch leader

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« Reply #1243 on: 18 March 2024, 23:15:51 »
I wouldn't say the Spirits had a lack of success. They managed to hold the task force for Arcadia together (as intended btw) and they also gave a good showing of their military skills (though often cleaning up the mess the Vipers got themselves into). Oddly enough the Spirits seemed to be quite cordial with the Adders at this point. But bad decisions (or rather bad mouthing) pushed them into isolation. Which is sad considering their first Khan was a descendent from the last Blackwatch leader

It was the Burrocks who the blood feud began with. The Adders Absorption of them(And the ill-advised, rage fueled Blood Spirit interference with said Absorption) passed the feud to the Adders. I will always hold that this is where the Blood Spirits destroyed themselves.
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« Reply #1244 on: 20 March 2024, 16:19:10 »
It was the Burrocks who the blood feud began with. The Adders Absorption of them(And the ill-advised, rage fueled Blood Spirit interference with said Absorption) passed the feud to the Adders. I will always hold that this is where the Blood Spirits destroyed themselves.

Oh God yes. Interfering in a Trial of Absorbtion was a huge mistake. Up till then the Adders didn't care about the Blood Spirits at all. But that old Rage just could not be contained.
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« Reply #1245 on: 20 March 2024, 18:06:17 »
Thinking on that, I feel as though the Spirits feared the Adders were going to come sooner or later. The Absorption War brought the Spirits front and center on the Adder dartboard, but if the near entirety of the Burrock Touman was Absorbed I'm not sure much would have changed in the preexisting Burrock-Spirit feud, just with the former-Burrocks having far stronger backing and support than they previously did. The Spirits, fierce Warriors but isolated politically and concentrated mainly on York, would have made a fine whetstone to sharpen the swollen Adder Touman and help integrate it. 

Damned-if-they-did, damned-if-they-didn't, I think.
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« Reply #1246 on: 20 March 2024, 18:10:23 »
Thinking on that, I feel as though the Spirits feared the Adders were going to come sooner or later. The Absorption War brought the Spirits front and center on the Adder dartboard, but if the near entirety of the Burrock Touman was Absorbed I'm not sure much would have changed in the preexisting Burrock-Spirit feud, just with the former-Burrocks having far stronger backing and support than they previously did. The Spirits, fierce Warriors but isolated politically and concentrated mainly on York, would have made a fine whetstone to sharpen the swollen Adder Touman and help integrate it. 

Damned-if-they-did, damned-if-they-didn't, I think.

I disagree, at least in part.

Without the Spirits' interference, the Burrock Absorption would've been much bloodier for the Burrocks and Adders alike, as the lion's share of the losses in that conflict were due to the Spirits jumping in (per the Adder entry FM:CC and WoK). Without them showing up, the Burrocks would've had no reason to team up with the Adders and would've been much more likely to fight for their right to exist.

I'm 50/50 at best on the Adders still going after the Spirits without the Spirits' interference in the Absorption. It's true that one of the reasons for the Adders going after them was to mollify the Burrocks in their ranks, but the primary reason they did so was to punish the Spirits for their interference (and to avenge their losses, which were considerable... remember, the Spirits took out three of their Galaxies and four of the Burrocks' Galaxies for the five they lost).

The Adders might've decided to do that touman sharpening on other enemies of their Clan, or the invading Clans, and seized power in the Homeworlds much earlier, without having to get in bed with Brett Andrews. On the flip side of the coin, the Adders might've had a much worse problem on its hands with the Burrocks in their ranks, as their increased numbers in the touman and in the lower castes could've magnified their discontent in the tight-knit Adder ranks.
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« Reply #1247 on: 20 March 2024, 18:47:38 »
I agree with the majority of casualties caused by the Spirits bit, but it didn't really seem to be shaping up like the Burrocks were fighting hard for their survival up to that point.

The original Adder plan, which I realize the Spirits couldn't have known, was to decapitate the treasonous leadership of the Burrocks on the expectation that the remainder wouldn't fight to their fullest. It seems as though the Adders had accomplished this within 2 days of dropping onto Albion, and likely would have stood to Absorb the great majority of the Burrocks had the Spirits not interfered in the 11th hour just as Carlos Hutchinson and Cassius N'Buta were about to duel with the fate of Albion on the line. The tone in fighting elsewhere is mostly that of disheartened Warriors not putting up a strong showing, only Dagda seemed to see any other heavy fighting prior to Spirits' entry and even then only 2 of the 3 Burrock Clusters were obeying orders to hold at all costs.

If they didn't show up, I'd see an engorged Clan Star Adder eventually picking up where Clan Burrock left off in regards to the Spirits, if only to appease some of the new voices and influence of the abtakha on their new Clan. It would be interesting to what extent this may have happened, as without the huge holes in their Touman, maybe the Adders wouldn't have rushed to adopt so many former Burrocks as Warriors...
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« Reply #1248 on: 20 March 2024, 18:58:37 »
That's fair. But I still don't see fear, of all things, as a motivator for the Spirits to take action the way they did. It was made abundantly clear that they acted out of hatred for the Adders and resentment for the Adders being given the right of Absorption over them, which still makes no sense to me. Trials of Absorption are supposed to be bid on, and that definitely didn't happen here, not with the Adders throwing virtually their entire touman into the fight (as is the norm for them). Surely another Clan would've bid lower than nine Galaxies to take seven Burrock Galaxies. 
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« Reply #1249 on: 20 March 2024, 23:43:34 »
If they didn't show up, I'd see an engorged Clan Star Adder eventually picking up where Clan Burrock left off in regards to the Spirits, if only to appease some of the new voices and influence of the abtakha on their new Clan. It would be interesting to what extent this may have happened, as without the huge holes in their Touman, maybe the Adders wouldn't have rushed to adopt so many former Burrocks as Warriors...

I would also see the Adders as having continued the harrassment of the Spirits, but the Burrocks weren't trying to destroy the Spirits. It was the same degree of "rivalry" as between the Wolves and the Falcons or the Bears and the Horses or the Ice Hellions and everybody. The Adders would have done raids and trials here and there, but they wouldn't have dropped in to do the decade long siege of York.

Interestingly, the Spirits could have tried to negotiate with the Adders for a Contract Bid against the Burrocks, if they had not gone "No! These are our blood enemies! You have no right to be the ones Absorbing them!" In fact, if the Spirits had thought about it, their feud was why they should not have been the Clan to have had the Right of Absorbtion. Do we really believe that the Blood Spirits getting that would have ended in anything less than a de facto Anhillation, like the Adders did to them in the end? When Passion rules, she never rules wisely...
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« Reply #1250 on: 21 March 2024, 19:31:48 »
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« Reply #1251 on: 21 March 2024, 19:47:42 »
Nice! Some real classics in there.
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« Reply #1252 on: 21 March 2024, 19:52:40 »
Nice! Some real classics in there.

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« Reply #1253 on: 22 March 2024, 02:01:43 »
My goodness, those are simply gorgeous, Top!
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« Reply #1254 on: 22 March 2024, 21:20:46 »
Thanks Tassa! :)
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« Reply #1255 on: 23 March 2024, 09:55:48 »
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« Reply #1256 on: 31 March 2024, 18:21:07 »
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« Reply #1257 on: 02 April 2024, 13:35:54 »
I can"t seem to find my Crimson Langour  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

It's out there backstabbing a Timberwolf somewhere.

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« Reply #1258 on: 02 April 2024, 21:38:24 »
My FLGS had a 'Military Parade" last weekend: bring a fully painted army and show it off! They said they are planning to post pics to social media.

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The Ways of Seeing, devoted to a more perfect life.”
-- The Remembrance (Nova Cat), 50.5.26-32.


alex blood spirit

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Re: Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn
« Reply #1259 on: 09 April 2024, 16:30:41 »
Did the Spirit's have heavy assault battle armor

 

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