Author Topic: Dakka is talking about the return of the unseen, where is the thread here? (Read 12001 times)

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #30 on:** 29 July 2015, 10:04:59 »

Quote from: IronSphinx on 29 July 2015, 10:02:25

You're all wrong! We need to bring back the rectangular die cut cardboard figures that needed a plastic clip to stand up on the hexmaps! All 144 'Mechs in one Battletech Reinforcements boxed set AND a booklet with pre-filled out record sheets that we could xerox for our games. Ah, those were the days! ;)

One of the happiest days of my Battletech career was finally getting my hands on a copy of Reinforcements II... it meant I could start copying and using those sheets in games at last! I owned the old record sheet volumes (light, medium, etc.) so I could use those variants- it meant I could use any version of the Uller, for example, except the Prime! This was, of course, the days before there was software to do the job (or at least before I had it for sure).

IronSphinx · « **Reply #31 on:** 29 July 2015, 10:37:57 »

It used to drive me nuts having to xerox the full record sheet from the boxed set and then spend an evening x-ing out all the little bubbles of armor and internal structure before I could play a single game! :P

God and Davion · « **Reply #32 on:** 29 July 2015, 11:01:35 »

Quote from: Rtifs on 29 July 2015, 07:01:49

I guess I’m a total heretic. I prefer resin. Same level of detail as metal, but much easier to work with for assembly and/or reposing. Glue actually holds them together. I wouldn’t have to use green stuff and pinning on every joint.

:o :o :o :o

HERETIC!!! Prepare the cauldron!!

[brew] [brew] [brew]

Jokes aside, I have seen gorgeous resin kits (Aires produces wonderful superdetailed cockpits) but, honestly, a good and cheap resin is not available yet. I have worked with plastic, metal and resin. The resin kits required a small photoetched saw and a lot of patience. I may need some advice from you, maybe in the tips section.... O0

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #33 on:** 29 July 2015, 11:11:29 »

Quote from: IronSphinx on 29 July 2015, 10:37:57

It used to drive me nuts having to xerox the full record sheet from the boxed set and then spend an evening x-ing out all the little bubbles of armor and internal structure before I could play a single game! :P

See that was the thing for us, we had to have the official sheet. Fill-ins from the blank sheet were disallowed because people would 'accidentally' fill things in wrong... a spare heat sink here, a few extra points on the rear torso there... so we eventually banned that as a legal sheet. :-\

I still have the book and the whole group of the fold-over 'miniatures' in a small fishing tackle container on my gaming shelf- none of them have seen a table in a good 20 years, but it's good to still have them around.

IronSphinx · « **Reply #34 on:** 29 July 2015, 13:07:50 »

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 29 July 2015, 11:11:29

See that was the thing for us, we had to have the official sheet. Fill-ins from the blank sheet were disallowed because people would 'accidentally' fill things in wrong... a spare heat sink here, a few extra points on the rear torso there... so we eventually banned that as a legal sheet. :-\

For the first fourteen years, the few times I got to play Battletech it was just me and my brother, or the occasional friend from college. So, it was never an issue. The big issue was always finding someone to play with. >:(

Quote from: JadeHellbringer on 29 July 2015, 11:11:29

I still have the book and the whole group of the fold-over 'miniatures' in a small fishing tackle container on my gaming shelf- none of them have seen a table in a good 20 years, but it's good to still have them around.

Yeah, me too. But more because I'm a completist when it comes to collecting Battletech. My current project is color laser printing all the Battletech E-Pub-only books and binding them in their own individual three-ring binders so I don't have to boot up a computer just to read them. Thank you Sam's Club for allowing me to buy binders and sheet protectors in bulk for very little money! O:-)

Remove · « **Reply #35 on:** 29 July 2015, 13:59:43 »

Quote from: worktroll on 28 July 2015, 21:58:54

You're welcome to your personal opinion. And if the only plastics you've seen are the old intro box plastics, or the even older 3rd Ed or CityTech plastics, I would be more inclined to agree with you.

But I'd be interested in reasons for preferring metal over the current intro/box or lance pack plastics that are not purely subjective.

I own many of the newer plastics and while they are good looking minis, I do prefer metal. Especially considering that I am refinishing 1 of every miniature from all the TROs from 2750 to 3067 with ink and polish for my personal units. I simply can not do that with resin or plastic.

I of course will get at least one of all the new minis but was really excited to hear of the Newseens and add them into my unit and then read that they were plastic. It was a let down is all. :(

An example of what I am doing with the metal minis.

worktroll · « **Reply #36 on:** 29 July 2015, 17:23:54 »

We can agree then, I think, that our preferences are purely subjective/personal.

Remove · « **Reply #37 on:** 29 July 2015, 20:32:56 »

Quote from: worktroll on 29 July 2015, 17:23:54

We can agree then, I think, that our preferences are purely subjective/personal.

Completely. O0

Feenix74 · « **Reply #38 on:** 29 July 2015, 21:18:01 »

O0 I still have my cardboard mechs from Battletech 2nd Ed and Reinforcements 2 boxsets (I covered them in vinyl book covering back in the day so they are all still in good condition). I keep threatening to field them on a tabletop with my playing group one day (when we actually get to play a tabletop game).

worktroll · « **Reply #39 on:** 29 July 2015, 22:51:35 »

You want cardboards ...

(something I played with a looooong time ago ....)

Bartholomew bartholomew · « **Reply #40 on:** 30 July 2015, 16:24:57 »

That's actually pretty cool!

I have both plastics and metals. I think for playing an actual game (ONE OF THESE DAYS PLEASE) there is no real difference if you are using not fancy paint ups for play on a regular table.

BCullen · « **Reply #41 on:** 30 July 2015, 18:33:57 »

Plastic, metal and resin each have their place for different reasons. I personally prefer metal simply for the heft and durability, especially where narrow pieces like gun barrels are concerned. That being said, it would be a great disservice to IWM if these minis were restricted to being only box set plastics, not to mention to some fans as well. Simply put, I would gladly buy a lance worth of the Warhammer alone, but I would prefer not to have to buy four box sets to get them...

Acolyte · « **Reply #42 on:** 30 July 2015, 23:06:30 »

I prefer metal, myself. I like the heft of them and they are harder to accidentally knock out of position of someone nudges the table. With plastics I'll routinely put a nice pewter base on them for this reason. Other than that, I have no hate for plastics if they're of the quality that the new box set has. Just base them with metal, IMO.

Myself, I hope they come out in both. Someone earlier on this thread said something about the old lance packs..... That's a great idea! I'd buy 'em like that, definitely.

- Shane

Colt Ward · « **Reply #43 on:** 30 July 2015, 23:11:01 »

Yeah, I take the flash from metal to add weight to any questionably balanced minis. But I also have some plastic bases for light/plastic minis that I add the flash to increase the weight again . . . or position legs.

pheonixstorm · « **Reply #44 on:** 30 July 2015, 23:50:03 »

Plastisteel till... something something freezes over!

I don't care what it's made of, just hurry up and sell em already!

GRUD · « **Reply #45 on:** 31 July 2015, 05:30:08 »

According to Loren Coleman at the "What's Up With Catalyst?" Seminar, they WILL be in plastic AND Metal! O0

Feenix74 · « **Reply #46 on:** 31 July 2015, 07:22:58 »

Thanks GRUD, that is wonderful news 8)

Remove · « **Reply #47 on:** 31 July 2015, 08:22:18 »

Quote from: GRUD on 31 July 2015, 05:30:08

According to Loren Coleman at the "What's Up With Catalyst?" Seminar, they WILL be in plastic AND Metal! O0

Yes and YES! O0 :D No more sad panda!

Klat · « **Reply #48 on:** 31 July 2015, 12:15:05 »

Quote from: GRUD on 31 July 2015, 05:30:08

According to Loren Coleman at the "What's Up With Catalyst?" Seminar, they WILL be in plastic AND Metal! O0

Thank you, that's great news.

GRUD · « **Reply #49 on:** 01 August 2015, 02:34:30 »

Unfortunately, I asked Mike Noe Friday if he had any idea when they might do them, and he said it won't be until AFTER they appear in some Cannon Source, like a TRO. :(

GRUD · « **Reply #50 on:** 01 August 2015, 03:29:03 »

I noticed this Friday at the CSO Diorama, an Actual painted Warhammer Prototype at Gen Con! O0 Unfortunately, I don't know who the Artist is that painted it. :-[

That's MY finger touching it though! :D

abou · « **Reply #51 on:** 01 August 2015, 08:57:49 »

I think a detailed Classics TRO covering 3025 and 3050 with details of the Royal variants is possible. I'd buy it!

Colt Ward · « **Reply #52 on:** 01 August 2015, 13:33:29 »

Already said they had no intention to make a 3039 redo . . . you will likely see them come out in the Combat Manual series for Alpha Strike which will have some regular TT info in it.

Okay, is it a visual trick? The right PPC barrel does not seem straight with the rest of the arm.

BCullen · « **Reply #53 on:** 02 August 2015, 20:14:27 »

Ahhh Warhammer, I have missed you...

GRUD · « **Reply #54 on:** 02 August 2015, 20:19:29 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 01 August 2015, 13:33:29

Okay, is it a visual trick? The right PPC barrel does not seem straight with the rest of the arm.

Well, it IS a Prototype after all. O0 Then again, I'm not exactly the best photographer in the world either. :-\

worktroll · « **Reply #55 on:** 02 August 2015, 20:24:45 »

Remember, this isn't a production mini. It's a 3D printed version made from the master model. The master model will be used to create plastic injection moulds out of steel blanks.

It's possible the arm distorted under pressure at some point after it was printed. It was, after all, produced with some haste for delivery to GenCon.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #56 on:** 02 August 2015, 20:48:54 »

lol, I just wanted someone to check my eyes

GunjiNoKanrei · « **Reply #57 on:** 03 August 2015, 05:37:16 »

Quote from: GRUD on 01 August 2015, 03:29:03

Unfortunately, I don't know who the Artist is that painted it. :-[

phlop painted it during the con.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #58 on:** 03 August 2015, 12:52:48 »

Confirmed that the plastic is one piece for now.

beachhead1985 · « **Reply #59 on:** 03 August 2015, 15:23:40 »

I am thrilled about this!