BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat
BattleTech Miniatures and Terrain => Gaming Terrain => Topic started by: BARNESGN on 28 October 2011, 08:16:29
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Has anyone had an luck with using treated felt? I am a newbie to gaming terrain and am looking for something cheaper to enter the scene. I plan on trying mini rules or Quick strike, but would also like the flexibility a hexed mat gives.
Thanks Sam
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One of the players in my local Battletech group has a 4'x6' economy mat from Monday Knight Productions (http://www.mondayknight.com/Index-Mats.html). We've used it a few times. It's held up well over the years and gets the job done.
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http://www.wildchildgaming.com/menu-products/menu-game-mats
I have been using thre mats, and they are pretty high quality. They are really thin for starters, and light weight.
They have nice hills as well.
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From the wild child website:
Our 48” x 72” mats are made from heavy grade 2mil styrene
Does this mean they are foam?
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yep.
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I have one of the old GeoHex felt maps I use as a base for the rest of my GeoHex. It works great for large games.
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Hotz Artworks out of Canada makes a great felt product. I've been using a few of their mats for years and they stand up well to use and abuse...
http://www.hotzmats.com/ (http://www.hotzmats.com/)
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Any experience using the Hotz mats with Heroscape; and if so, do the Heroscape tiles match up well with the mat or are they skewed at all?
Thanks!
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before making my own maps, I used a mat from MKP.....good stuff. I like it alot
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Any experience using the Hotz mats with Heroscape; and if so, do the Heroscape tiles match up well with the mat or are they skewed at all?
Thanks!
Heroscape are 44mm (1.73") from edge to edge across the middle of the hex; 25.5mm (1") along a hex-side. For one or two tiles you hardly see the difference. After 6-10 tiles, it begins to add up. At that point it's strictly asthetics. I have used 1.75" water among my heroscape land and it works, but I find I tend to avoid using the sheet because it doesn't line up exactly along every hex. To each his own.
I hope that helps,
JB
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Any experience using the Hotz mats with Heroscape; and if so, do the Heroscape tiles match up well with the mat or are they skewed at all?
Thanks!
Hotz makes a 1.75" hex mat that works great with Heroscape.
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Hotz makes a 1.75" hex mat that works great with Heroscape.
To an extent, depending on how particular you are. See john blackwell's post above for more details.
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The Hotz mats seem like a good deal when ordering what should I be aware of?
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The Hotz mats seem like a good deal when ordering what should I be aware of?
1) Hotz seems to have a tendency to run their orders in "batches" (i.e. they wait until they have some number of orders and then do printing of those orders). this can lead to some annoyingly long wait times. They say 4-6 weeks but I've seen it go as long as 8 weeks, or as few as two weeks.
2) They are shipping from Canada, so make sure to note their shipping costs.
3) Getting the mats folded and shipped is fine; they bounce back quickly from the folding process. Heck, I stored one not neatly folded in a storage box for a few months after Gencon a few years ago and it bounced right back.
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I ordered a small, basic hex mat from Monday Knight on Sept 8, and it just shipped a few days ago, so it would seem both popular sources have a "lead" time to factor in.
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I too have a Hotzmat and they are a great product. Also have a space mat with out hexes for space games. Highly recommended. Can be a long delivery time.
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I like using mkp mats
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One of the players in my local Battletech group has a 4'x6' economy mat from Monday Knight Productions (http://www.mondayknight.com/Index-Mats.html). We've used it a few times. It's held up well over the years and gets the job done.
I'm considering buying one of these .
Do you happen to know how close the color is to GW's grass flock ?
If it's close enough I can use all the hills I already made with the MKP mats instead of
toting around a bunch of big styrafoam sheets .
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I'm considering buying one of these .
Do you happen to know how close the color is to GW's grass flock ?
If it's close enough I can use all the hills I already made with the MKP mats instead of
toting around a bunch of big styrafoam sheets .
It's the unflocked economy mat. It won't match, but won't be unduly distracting. After more than a year's absence, our Commando's MKP mat made an appearance during our last game. The flocked hills (both homemade and geohex) couldn't have matched the mat, but neither I nor anyone at the table noticed.
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I have a MKP economy map and GeoHex hexed hills. They don't match, but Scat's right, it's nowhere near a "OMG that's hideous! I'd never play on that trash!" kinda difference.
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Hmmm...
I think that when the tax return gets in I'm going to buy one of the MKP 4' X 6 ' Flocked Hex Mats .
You can't really judge colors by pics on the net .
If I do I'll have to make a thread on it and do some color comparisons .
I don't have a camera so I'll have to use the wife's cell .
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You won't regret it.
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I just got a Hotz mat with 1.75" hexes and used it in my last game with Heroscape. It worked great. Here are a few snaps from the game.
(Two tiles high = 1 level) The single level path in the middle is a Level 0 roadway leading to the spaceport at the far end of the table.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_tUkl3PQpOQ/T0ZTluaHjfI/AAAAAAAAC-0/i6mXnYBNBS0/s912/20120211_104517.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OlSFOD4L4No/T0ZTsygobcI/AAAAAAAAC-8/f01bkjeWoqg/s912/20120211_104547.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KWDKmbBGJM8/T0ZT98kiH6I/AAAAAAAAC_M/2CA-mPQf2Ek/s912/20120211_120055.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qrO9K_03mPU/T0ZUMxcoNvI/AAAAAAAAC_c/BkMmtXlbBqo/s912/20120211_152915.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1L-AyXx77VM/T0ZUxgBCS7I/AAAAAAAAC_8/1bsVPc7I9Es/s912/20120211_132613.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rgDZPzZ5SZI/T0ZUFdqC0GI/AAAAAAAAC_U/c39XkD9TLxk/s912/20120211_124336.jpg)
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That's a great looking setup. How long did it take to assemble the heroscape tiles?
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I pre-built the setup at home a couple of days before and then transported it to the store and set it up the night before the game. Pre-building took a couple of hours and about 40 minutes at the store to set it back up. I used rubber bands to keep the hills together and then broke the roadway apart with stickies to indicate which ends go together.
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That's a great setup.
I use the 2 hex tiles =1 level also. I also use dark green felt that is stick on (applied to a green woods tile) to represent heavy woods.
I really like 3d terrain and feel that it brings eye catching pop to Battletech.
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I really like 3d terrain and feel that it brings eye catching pop to Battletech.
Definitely. I got a lot of positive comments by people filtering in and out of the store over the terrain.
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Bravo! That is a gorgeous gaming table. I love tables like that.
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That store, as well as that battleforce is a beautiful site :'(
That leopard dropship is pretty neat too, wish they made a broadsword.
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Does anyone have a lead on any current felt hex mat producers?
Thanks
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Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead !
Monday Knight Productions still makes flocked hex mats in several sizes and colors .
Just after my last previous response to this thread I purchased one of their 4X6 feet
green hex mats .
It's been fantastic !
I've carried it on my back rolled up in an old cardboard tube with a shoulder sling to so many
games in so many locations that I've lost count of how many .
The dots aren't as bright as they were originally but they're still clearly visible .
Mind you that it's been nearly TEN YEARS since I bought it and I've never touched it up .
Other posters in this thread were completely correct about MKP -they make good stuff .
BTW-Geohex is now back in production so you can buy newly produced hills and
combine them with the MKP mats .
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My two hotzmats have stood the test of time and have survived many foldings and unfoldings, plenty of games and thankfully wore no spills.
Eric hotz was still a butt and I don't recommend buying from them.
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Honestly if you go Neopreane you will have no intrest in felt going forward in my opinion.
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If only neoprene was cheaper than felt...
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My two hotzmats have stood the test of time and have survived many foldings and unfoldings, plenty of games and thankfully wore no spills.
Eric hotz was still a butt and I don't recommend buying from them.
Hotz is out of the business now.
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Hotz is out of the business now.
Are you sure? He still has a functioning website (Copyright 2021) with contact info:
http://www.hotzartworks.com/hotz_contact-test.html
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He doesn't make felt mats anymore.
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I'll ask him next time I see him at the monthly game night
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A friend has a 10"x10" plastic stencil for 1.5" hexes that I've used with Sharpies to DIY felt mats. 2 Fine Point Sharpies and 4 hours for a 4'x6' mat isn't terrible.
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Where did your friend get this stencil? ???
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Litko.
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Got mine from them to help make terrain, and I will be altering a felt mat as well.
Not sure if mine is 10x10, but yeah I intend to use some plywood to lay it out, use thumb tacks to hold the stencil in place and go to it.
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Thanks for the tip! Now to convince my wife to buy a few yards of felt... ^-^