Author Topic: The Capellans are not evil (Read 151453 times)

HikageMaru · « **on:** 30 June 2011, 20:11:55 »

You know, I've been thinking about this long and hard and I have come to the conclusion that the Capellan Confederation is not evil. Well, torturing people and whatnot is evil per se (like the other Houses don't do it), and they've had insane Chancellors and whatnot, but overall I don't think they're evil. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather live in Davion space, but I think the overall cultural expression of the Capellans (which, thinking about it, really isn't that much different from the Korean culture in which I was raised) is good.

Now House Kurita, they're evil.

M-Rex · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:31:13 »

Word of Blake has a better dental plan.

MadCapellan · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:42:09 »

Quote from: HikageMaru on 30 June 2011, 20:11:55

You know, I've been thinking about this long and hard and I have come to the conclusion that the Capellan Confederation is not evil........Now House Kurita, they're evil.

:-* Brother! I'm so glad you understand! Hopefully, as time goes on, more people will remove the Stackpole glasses and come to understand the Confederation as you do - a nation of peaceful people working together in harmony for the greater good of all. Please, help us to right the ills caused by those who have transgressed against us and help us to free our worlds from their unjust control!

HikageMaru · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:45:07 »

Quote from: M-Rex on 30 June 2011, 20:31:13

Word of Blake has a better dental plan.

Hope it's better than my firm's because I busted a tooth and had to have a crown today---and virtually pay for it myself. If I were a Capellan I'm sure I've have no out of pocket expense. Just a wooden crown and no pain killer. But so it goes when your neighbors steal all your planets and resources.

HikageMaru · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:48:47 »

Quote from: MadCapellan on 30 June 2011, 20:42:09

:-* Brother! I'm so glad you understand! Hopefully, as time goes on, more people will remove the Stackpole glasses and come to understand the Confederation as you do - a nation of peaceful people working together in harmony for the greater good of all. Please, help us to right the ills caused by those who have transgressed against us and help us to free our worlds from their unjust control!

Truth be told, it really was Stackpole that put the Capellans in such a bad light (and romanticize House Kurita).

Then again, William H. Keith wasn't too kind to the Combine.

Stormfury · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:52:04 »

And why, pray tell, is the Draconis Combine evil?

Alexander Knight · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:53:44 »

Quote from: Stormfury on 30 June 2011, 20:52:04

And why, pray tell, is the Draconis Combine evil?

Because it's full of Dracs! ;)

Neko_Bijin · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 June 2011, 20:58:38 »

The Combine is a little more DPRK than RoK, if you had to compare.

Darth Nichos · « **Reply #8 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:06:53 »

I don't believe that there is evil in the Inner Sphere (with a few exceptions) just a whole lot of people trying to restore Order in there own way

Neko_Bijin · « **Reply #9 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:08:57 »

Keep that point of view. That way evil can sneak up and get you!

Caesar Steiner for Archon · « **Reply #10 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:19:58 »

Quote from: HikageMaru on 30 June 2011, 20:48:47

Truth be told, it really was Stackpole that put the Capellans in such a bad light (and romanticize House Kurita).

Then again, William H. Keith wasn't too kind to the Combine.

Yeah, but Keith had Tetsuhara and other positive Drac characters. Any Capellan Stackpole writes who has redeeming qualities will defect by the end.

Ian Sharpe · « **Reply #11 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:28:03 »

Quote from: Caesar Steiner for Archon on 30 June 2011, 21:19:58

Yeah, but Keith had Tetsuhara and other positive Drac characters. Any Capellan Stackpole writes who has redeeming qualities will defect by the end.

Tetsuhara was Charette. The Red Duke was ruthless, but honourable as snakes go, and one of Keith's.

Nanaki · « **Reply #12 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:31:46 »

Quote from: Neko_Bijin on 30 June 2011, 20:58:38

The Combine is a little more DPRK than RoK, if you had to compare.

I would compare them to modern-day Pakistan.

The Capellan Confederation started off as the DPRK back in the Stackpole days, but now it is more like modern-day China.

Sartris · « **Reply #13 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:37:13 »

Quote from: HikageMaru on 30 June 2011, 20:11:55

You know, I've been thinking about this long and hard and I have come to the conclusion that the Capellan Confederation is not evil. Well, torturing people and whatnot is evil per se (like the other Houses don't do it), and they've had insane Chancellors and whatnot, but overall I don't think they're evil. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather live in Davion space, but I think the overall cultural expression of the Capellans (which, thinking about it, really isn't that much different from the Korean culture in which I was raised) is good.

Now House Kurita, they're evil.

Dude, the Maskirovka agent stepped outside for a cigarette. You can stop reading off the teleprompter.

Nanaki · « **Reply #14 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:41:31 »

Quote from: HikageMaru on 30 June 2011, 20:11:55

I'd rather live in Davion space

I dont think any of us freedomloving democracy-types would be able to stand living in the Battletech universe. It seems like TPTB quite clearly designed the place to be a crapsack universe.

Minemech · « **Reply #15 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:53:02 »

Some individual Capellans may not necessarily be evil, but the Capellan Confederation is.

Caesar Steiner for Archon · « **Reply #16 on:** 30 June 2011, 21:55:15 »

Quote from: Ian Sharpe on 30 June 2011, 21:28:03

Tetsuhara was Charette. The Red Duke was ruthless, but honourable as snakes go, and one of Keith's.

Yeah, just mixed the two authors' works up

Peacemaker · « **Reply #17 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:02:03 »

The Red Duke was a key member of the Black Dragon Society. If those guys aren't evil, I don't know who is.

Nanaki · « **Reply #18 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:11:19 »

Quote from: Peacemaker on 30 June 2011, 22:02:03

The Red Duke was a key member of the Black Dragon Society. If those guys aren't evil, I don't know who is.

Not so much evil, but stupid. Were it not for the Black Dragons and their petty schemes for power, the Kuritans would have been a superpower instead of a failed state.

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #19 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:17:54 »

If you're not doing the CapCom evil, you're not doing it right!

Youngblood · « **Reply #20 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:24:29 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2011, 22:17:54

If you're not doing the CapCom evil, you're not doing it right!

>CapCom
>evil

DID SOMEONE CALL FOR EVIL RYU?!?

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #21 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:25:16 »

Cappies ain't evil they just have a domineering repressive goverment that desires all its original worlds back under its flag, even worlds it had citizens land on while on vacation. Like New Avalon and Strana Mechty, what you don't think Sun Tzu didn't make a claim for ownership after the Star League Defence Force landed there while under his far -way rule?

Peacemaker · « **Reply #22 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:30:54 »

Quote from: Nanaki on 30 June 2011, 22:11:19

Not so much evil, but stupid. Were it not for the Black Dragons and their petty schemes for power, the Kuritans would have been a superpower instead of a failed state.

Okay, so some good things came out of their actions, but they did what they did for the wrong reasons.

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #23 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:31:45 »

Not playing the CapCom evil is like playing a good ninja¹...laaaaaaaaaaaaame.

1 Michael Dudikoff ruined it for everyone, sorry.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #24 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:33:02 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2011, 22:31:45

Not playing the CapCom evil is like playing a good ninja¹...laaaaaaaaaaaaame.

1 Michael Dudikoff ruined it for everyone, sorry.

I own a copy of the movie on DVD, not its fault its on sale for only $1.99. :D

Youngblood · « **Reply #25 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:36:53 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2011, 22:31:45

Not playing the CapCom evil is like playing a good ninja¹...laaaaaaaaaaaaame.

>ninja
>good

Okay, how about Strider Hiryu, then? (Man, I'm on a CapCom roll!)

Kit deSummersville · « **Reply #26 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:38:10 »

He does have a cape, and capes are out....

Youngblood · « **Reply #27 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:39:39 »

Quote from: Kit deSummersville on 30 June 2011, 22:38:10

He does have a cape, and capes are out....

You know what, I'm just going to keep on posting Capcom characters until you start spelling it "CapCon".

Would you say that Mega Man is evil? I mean, look at him! So pixelated.

Minemech · « **Reply #28 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:42:23 »

A ninja with a cape? Not one who lives for long.

MadCapellan · « **Reply #29 on:** 30 June 2011, 22:50:47 »

It's not a cape, it's a SCARF people! Like KAMEN RIDER! Y'know, AWESOME.