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Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« on: 03 March 2018, 13:20:51 »
I welcome you back with a shot of the ship named for my homeland.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #1 on: 03 March 2018, 13:38:20 »
Huh, I always thought you were from here:

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #2 on: 03 March 2018, 14:16:01 »
well then.


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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #3 on: 03 March 2018, 14:31:28 »
For something a bit newer:



Or: How to get around treaty restrictions on destroyer size.

That is a "training ship". A "training ship" with a full radar/sonar/electronics outfit, diesel-steam propulsion and four 100mm, six 40mm, six torpedo tubes, two ASW mortars and two depth charge launchers...

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #4 on: 03 March 2018, 14:57:29 »
I shall contribute a painting shot for this thread! Representing my homeland.
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #5 on: 03 March 2018, 15:03:17 »
if we're going for 5s


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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #6 on: 03 March 2018, 15:34:49 »
How about something retro?

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #7 on: 03 March 2018, 16:42:04 »
USS Massachuetts BB-59


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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #8 on: 03 March 2018, 17:04:51 »


USS Massachuetts SSN-798
- Ship to come (this is just sistership, not the actual ship.)


Boat, not ship. Submarines are called boats the last I heard...I believe that applies even to boomers...

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #9 on: 03 March 2018, 17:20:24 »
Ruger has it right.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #10 on: 03 March 2018, 19:16:56 »
Boat, not ship. Submarines are called boats the last I heard...I believe that applies even to boomers...

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Your talking about nickname for submarines, not what actually IS.
Quote from: Wikipedia page for USS Massachusetts SSN-798
USS Massachusetts (SSN-798), a Virginia-class submarine, will be the seventh U.S. Navy ship named for the state of Massachusetts. Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced the name on November 8, 2015 in an opinion piece for The Boston Globe. She is the first ship named after the Commonwealth of Massachusetts since the battleship USS Massachusetts (BB-59) was decommissioned in 1947.
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #11 on: 03 March 2018, 19:21:29 »
The USN official website also seems to refer to them as ships rather than boats although mostly just calls them submarines while the Royal Navy's official site does refer to them as boats (I looked at the page for the new HMS Agamemnon S123)
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #12 on: 03 March 2018, 19:23:10 »
USS Massachuetts BB-59


USS Massachuetts SSN-798
- Ship to come (this is just sistership, not the actual ship.)

nice pics of both

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #13 on: 03 March 2018, 19:33:54 »
to be honest, all the modern submarines look pretty same-y to me (big black tube, lumpy bit on top and spinning thing at one end) so here are two other views of submarines
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #14 on: 03 March 2018, 19:37:03 »
Your talking about nickname for submarines, not what actually IS.

Conversely, the Wikipedia page on submarines states the following:

The noun submarine evolved as a shortened form of submarine boat;[1] by naval tradition, submarines are usually referred to as "boats" rather than as "ships", regardless of their size (boat is usually reserved for seagoing vessels of relatively small size).

Wikipedia, however, can only be used as a source so far, as it is open for anyone to update and change a file.

Standard US Navy usage has ALL submarines called "boats" not "ships", unless that has changed in the last few years. My plant manager used to be a submariner, and he and I have had discussions on this before...

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #15 on: 03 March 2018, 19:44:38 »
Conversely, the Wikipedia page on submarines states the following:

The noun submarine evolved as a shortened form of submarine boat;[1] by naval tradition, submarines are usually referred to as "boats" rather than as "ships", regardless of their size (boat is usually reserved for seagoing vessels of relatively small size).

Wikipedia, however, can only be used as a source so far, as it is open for anyone to update and change a file.

Standard US Navy usage has ALL submarines called "boats" not "ships", unless that has changed in the last few years. My plant manager used to be a submariner, and he and I have had discussions on this before...

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I rather not get into squab about this.  I've found in past traditionalist tend to be stick with names they like call their vessels.  I know many a sailor get bit touchy calling their might warship, "a boat".

Naval Registration for the Massachusetts doesn't say anything being called boat or ship anyways. So it is what is.  Though at very bottom that linked page it says "To learn more about current U.S. Navy ship types".   So there that too.

This be a boat.

Technically a lifeboat.  ;)
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #16 on: 03 March 2018, 19:55:22 »
Shippy McShippyFace doesn't quite have the same ring to it, no...

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #17 on: 03 March 2018, 20:35:25 »
Those who wear (or have worn) dolphins call them boats.  The press calls them all kinds of things, including "ships".

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #18 on: 03 March 2018, 21:24:02 »
If we are starting with ships named for our homelands, I give you the old and the new of my county's namesake:
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #19 on: 03 March 2018, 21:30:22 »
Those who wear (or have worn) dolphins call them boats.  The press calls them all kinds of things, including "ships".

Aha.  That is the problem...those aren't dolphins, either!






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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #20 on: 03 March 2018, 21:33:36 »
Those who wear (or have worn) dolphins call them boats.  The press calls them all kinds of things, including "ships".

If this seems petty, go and call a Canadian a Yank or a Kiwi an Aussie, tell a baseball or cricket player it's a nice stick, etc. You will see that people take their labels quite seriously, despite the fact that frequently they are colloquialisms or unofficial.

The people with no interest, including the press, don't care and thus are ignorant of convention. If you look up the definitions of ship and boat, you will see that there is actually no standard, it's all down to convention.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #21 on: 03 March 2018, 22:04:09 »
Aha.  That is the problem...those aren't dolphins, either!


actually they are.. they are stylized Dolphinfish, better known today as the Mahi Mahi.



though the british actually use a version with the cetacean type Dolphins.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #23 on: 03 March 2018, 23:04:56 »
The Royal Australian Navy has proper dolphins.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #24 on: 03 March 2018, 23:33:07 »
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #25 on: 04 March 2018, 04:27:49 »
And here's a ship named for the city of my birth


SMS Munchen

and the State in which the city is in (Bayern)



or the modern version



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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #26 on: 04 March 2018, 04:55:18 »
In honor of where Im from. The Older, the just replaced and the brand new. The brand new was commissioned in the city it was named after.
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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #27 on: 04 March 2018, 07:47:52 »
All nice vessels but much to modern, I am helping to build a Faering, but can't get the images to load.

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #28 on: 04 March 2018, 08:30:39 »
Here's a faering

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Re: Naval Pictures V: The Glorious Fifth
« Reply #29 on: 04 March 2018, 13:34:46 »
I was born here:


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