Fallout: Exploding onto your screen April 2024

[17thRecon]

Just finished episode 8, and I’m impressed and excited for season 2. It really did come full circle on the four different plot threads (Lucy, Maximus, Norm, and Cooper), tie them all together and then tie them into the greater plot that’ll be Season 2. I can’t speak to the references to the game (and I totally missed the super mutant hand cameo), but I still really liked it.

[elf25s]

watching it in spurts
love what the set designers had done! its like the sets themselves are characters like actors that play in them. this is rare since most shows try to upstage actors with sets to hide bad acting and story telling

[glitterboy2098]

No, they're not doing lore dumps, they're doing "previously on" recaps of what's happened in previous episodes as if we were watching this show on broadcast television and we only got one shot to see each episode before the summer reruns.

the producer has come out saying he doesn't like whole season drops, and prefers slow episodic release. so it is possible he made the show the way he preferred (meant to be released an episode a week or whatever), and Amazon just decided to drop it all at once anyway.

given previous amazon programming like rings of power was released in episodic fashion, and that drew a lot of flak (and the narrative for each episode in the media tended to be focused on how questionable so much of the writing and production was for each shows budget), it is possible amazon dropped it all at once in an effort to insulate itself if the show was a dud.. only for it to be good and have that quick release actually harm its public presence some.

i wonder if season 2 will continue the season drops or go back to episodic

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I don't think that a quick release harmed it too much: streaming shows being dropped a season at a time is not unpopular.  I just feel that recaps are not generally necessary for streaming shows because you can easily go back and rewatch older episodes if you feel like you're missing something.

[17thRecon]

There’s also that little box on the lower left that says “Skip Recap”. But I gripe about that because I always forget that there is a recap in most of the shows I watch and by the time I get through all the menus and get the show started, I’ve already set my remote down, 😆

[Death Monkey]

+...and it brings up the question many fans are asking, 'what is the canon ending?'. Based on the damage here, and the beating NCR took over the last few years? I'm not entirely sure the answer isn't 'Legion won'.

A YouTuber I was watching pointed out that the Strip is littered with Securitrons covered in claw marks and Deathclaw skulls. So, what if House won and the Strip was overrun by the Deathclaw horde from the unmarked Deathclaw plateau on the south side of the New Vegas map?

[Dragon Cat]

Well I finished it today I must say I was seriously impressed it stayed very true to how the games felt, I liked the gimmick of 33 as well that was clever. All three mains were great, I liked how they told Coopers path too that was clever. All three actors did a great job

I loved the board meeting where they were deciding exactly how things were going to be broken up with the Vaults including the wink to the Super mutant FEV vault. I enjoyed how they pinned the whole thing on them and showed it's still going on

Also how broken Lucy was when she realised the world kept ticking even without the vault dwellees, all in all it was very well done

[elf25s]

have to admit the music from f3 and f4 makes a nice touch
ghouls going feral when not given meds can fall into fallout universe dont forget not all ghouls were the same and some dont go feral at all while some can regress and it was fun to see some were actually smart enough to either post pone or halt feralization with meds...and vault lore is pretty spot on from the creators bible of the games
 a lot of things are played to absurd levels goes back to first fallout games which is what made fo games fun.
have t admit acting is pretty good and seems more natural than most shows and the pc stuff is on minimal which is a refreshing touch
and hope the flavor and standard will continue to next seasons...yeas second season confirmed and of it is as good as first it has a nice future ahead as long as it stays true within fo creators bible

[Liam's Ghost]

Just finished episode 1, and so far the only thing that bothers me is that vault 33 was stocked with british submachine guns.

For some reason that just nags at me.

[Bedwyr]

Just finished episode 1, and so far the only thing that bothers me is that vault 33 was stocked with british submachine guns.

For some reason that just nags at me.

Jonathan Ferguson from the Royal Armory similarly found it amusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsP9CGq3dL8

[elf25s]

well dont forget according to fallout bible our reality and fallout they diverged sometimes in the 50s
so any weapons could had been anywhere...plus vault tek had different vaults do different things and load outs
i think in fo3 (?)i came across mention of control vaults that were not to be opened at all

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Fallout's always been pretty weird about weapon availability, with stuff that just sort of inexplicably shows up in one region without explanation.

[Liam's Ghost]

And now I'm out of episodes to watch.

(and here I thought I might not get through them with only a week worth of prime)

Thoughts:
*The only thing that could definitely be considered a retcon seems to be the location of Shady Sands. Which is annoying, but it could have been worse.
*Honestly, the idea of ghouls staving off the feral state with drugs is an interesting and reasonable development. The point where a ghoul goes feral was always highly variable, and we have past indications that it isn't an instant change, so with so many ghouls in the wasteland it's an obvious field of research. I have to wonder when this treatment regimen was developed and by who. NCR would be a reasonable choice, but since there were pre-war experiments with creating ghouls this too could have been a vault tec product.
(Or maybe a Ghoul who felt his mind slipping just started downing mentats and had a eureka)
*It's kinda sad, but the simplest way to get the classic fallout feel and still set it close to los angeles probably was to nuke the NCR. It's kinda hard to get the grim and gritty part down when you set it in the most populous and stable nation on the continent. I do have to wonder how much of NCR might still remain as a functioning state.
*Maximus is a moron.
*New Vegas isn't looking so hot. I would have preferred otherwise. But the presence of an NCR vertibird and Securitrons suggests that Caesar didn't win at hoover dam, and whatever befell the city (deathclaw swarm?) saw the NCR present for the fight. So probably an indication that the nuking of Shady Sands wasn't the only attack launched on the NCR and/or their partners. (ooh, maybe the haze means the "player" of that timeline's new vegas skipped dead money and Elijah's on the loose)

Did I enjoy it? Well I binged it in one sitting.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The "grim and gritty" is actually a bit of a retcon itself.

As was pointed out in Jimquisition's video on the show, the Fallout setting was originally a post apocalyptic setting where humanity was starting to claw its way back into civilization.  Fallout 3 and 4 were originally the weirdos that stuck out for having a setting where it looks like the bombs were dropped only a few months or years ago rather than about two centuries and everyone was still living in squalid, burned out ruins.

[Liam's Ghost]

The "grim and gritty" is actually a bit of a retcon itself.

As was pointed out in Jimquisition's video on the show, the Fallout setting was originally a post apocalyptic setting where humanity was starting to claw its way back into civilization.  Fallout 3 and 4 were originally the weirdos that stuck out for having a setting where it looks like the bombs were dropped only a few months or years ago rather than about two centuries and everyone was still living in squalid, burned out ruins.

I don't know if I completely agree with that. The "just bombed yesterday" aesthetics, sure, but it was still a grim and gritty universe in the first two games. Sure, there was a sign that a slow recovery was coming, but it was very much a wild "tribal/city state" environment rather than the large, relatively organized state that the NCR was by Fallout New Vegas. There's a reason those games were deliberately set away from the actual interior of the NCR.

(I also found out today that Shady Sands was supposed to have been destroyed in Van Buren)

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

It wasn't a nice universe, but there was actual movement toward recovery.  And large swathes of the regions were actually fairly decent places, like Klamath or Goodsprings.  Even The Den and New Reno in Fallout 2 were portrayed as much more functional than Filly.

[Liam's Ghost]

You mean the den with the slavers and all the drugs and the random pickpocketing children (and that one area where you can pimp out your wife for extra caps) or New Reno with its impending gang war and the streets lined with drug addicted prostitutes?

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Yes.  It might have been the limitations of the game engine, but you were still generally safer there than how Filly was portrayed.

[Liam's Ghost]

Yes.  It might have been the limitations of the game engine, but you were still generally safer there than how Filly was portrayed.

Honestly, I don't buy it. I don't think Filly would have been much different than the Den or Goodneighbor if it had been presented in a game rather than in a TV show.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Maybe.

Could also be the difference between Lucy (as the Honest Trailers put it, a Speech Specialist who dump-statted Charisma) and Maximus when compared to any of the game protagonists.

[glitterboy2098]

It is worth noting that fallout new vegas dropped lots of info on how the NCR was overstretching itself.. how they were overusing and depleting the clean water sources, how the brahmin barons had gotten so much wealth and political power that they could ignore and overrule the local NCR government, how the NCR was rapidly expanding their territory with annexation and "colonization efforts" yet lacked the trained personnel, materials, and military resources to actually intergrate and secure said regions without leaving their core territory vulnerable. Of course, these details are dropped across multiple NPCs in various side quests and you have to read through their full dialog trees, not just the quest specific dialog..

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

And we don't know which ending is the one in the show's timeline.

Though honestly I think that the weirdest part in the show was reestablishing both the Enclave and the Brotherhood as dominant powers in the region.

[CrossfirePilot]

I never played the video game, but I did sit down and watch all the episodes.  I watch very little TV because I see most of it as an utter waste of time.   However, after binging this over a couple of days, I don't feel bad for the time spent and look forward to next season.