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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #60 on: 19 February 2014, 15:48:36 »
While I am with the crowd in favour of a new Highlander sculpt I just realised that we'd need new canon artwork first otherwise it would just look like the existing sculpt. Maybe a tad taller, but overall probably not what everyone would be expecting.

True, I'd even be ok with a larger version based on the current art, perhaps with a more substantial gun barrel for the Gauss Rifle.

Perhaps this one. (But not another "Wyvern arm" sculpt please!)
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #61 on: 19 February 2014, 15:51:11 »
I keep hearing people talk about scale creep... Then I look at my blood kite.   Then I look at the reseen griffin and shadow hawk.  All about the same size.

 There's probably no luck in getting a dead factions mech redone though.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #62 on: 19 February 2014, 16:09:05 »
True, I'd even be ok with a larger version based on the current art, perhaps with a more substantial gun barrel for the Gauss Rifle.

Perhaps this one. (But not another "Wyvern arm" sculpt please!)

maybe borrow a few style elements from the WO version?


extending the gun barrel and the shroud-prong thing would go a long way to making it look better. more like other guass equipped units. and having the LRM's actually sculpted on would be awesome.

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #63 on: 19 February 2014, 16:12:04 »
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #64 on: 19 February 2014, 16:20:23 »
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #65 on: 19 February 2014, 16:21:53 »
Perhaps this one. (But not another "Wyvern arm" sculpt please!)

That's actually one of the last pieces of Highlander art I'd like to see used, since that's what gave us the current sculpt. I'd prefer something a bit leaner like this art:

though with a bit beefier arms, and the forearms more closely resembling other art in terms of actual weapons shape and whatnot.

There's some pretty good art in the old Northwind Highlanders scenario pack showing surprisingly spry HGNs, though I cannot find any of them after a quick search. I'm hoping for something like that.

Of course, you know what else would benefit from a resculpt based on newer art? Just about anything that showed up in Operation Klondike, especially the Firefly. 8)

There's probably no luck in getting a dead factions mech redone though.

Don't be so sure. IWM doesn't care one whit about factions, after all. If they think people will buy a resculpted Blood Kite, that's what they'll do.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #66 on: 19 February 2014, 16:33:05 »
I had no idea that MWO did the Savage Wolf.

They didn't. This has been photo-chopped from the Alpha Strike cover art. It was a quick example I could post.

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #67 on: 19 February 2014, 16:35:25 »
The Hoplite's updated artwork was pretty fantastic, but it's such an unpopular Mech that I'm doubting a resculpt would sell all that well, sadly.

Soooo, what about the Kraken-4? ATM racks somehow different sizes, autocannons somehow shrunken down, rest of the mini blatantly enormous... I'd love to get that redone if possible.

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #68 on: 19 February 2014, 16:42:49 »
Yeah, it would be nice to have an in-production Kraken that I'd be willing to touch brushes to, and not everyone is a fan of the -XR. (No accounting for taste, I suppose.)

And I do agree that the Hoplite isn't a good likely candidate. On the other hand, that Firefly is downright GORGEOUS. They came out with that, I'd buy at least one for use in a regular force, and two to leave the legs off of and use as assault shuttles. [drool]
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #69 on: 19 February 2014, 16:54:28 »
Weirdo- that's the exact image I was hoping they wouldn't use of the highlander. To me that one you posted looks nothing like the current mini and I hope they don't remake it to look like that.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #70 on: 19 February 2014, 16:57:17 »
So...you want it to stay the same, then?
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #71 on: 19 February 2014, 17:01:46 »
Yeah, it would be nice to have an in-production Kraken that I'd be willing to touch brushes to, and not everyone is a fan of the -XR. (No accounting for taste, I suppose.)

And I do agree that the Hoplite isn't a good likely candidate. On the other hand, that Firefly is downright GORGEOUS. They came out with that, I'd buy at least one for use in a regular force, and two to leave the legs off of and use as assault shuttles. [drool]

A Kraken mini based on the XR, with the possibility of varients for the 3 and 4 especially would be awesome.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #72 on: 19 February 2014, 17:03:33 »
Everything that's out of scale.  Seriously.

And that Highlander above is absolutely horrendous.  MWO got it right.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #73 on: 19 February 2014, 17:08:18 »
So...you want it to stay the same, then?

 I actually like the look of the current highlander. I don't really like that art you posted and I guess you don't either... Maybe I'm confused.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #74 on: 19 February 2014, 17:11:44 »
The Highlander artwork shows just how subjective art is. The two canon artworks? No, I don't want another Mini based on that. At least the current sculpt is based on the imho better of the two artworks. The MWO version? Better, but still not very good imho.

So without a clear canon direction we could run circles with everyone finding reasons to justify why their taste is the way to go...

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #75 on: 19 February 2014, 17:12:55 »
Lemme put it this way: My favorite Highlander mini is the Highlander IIC. I'd love a standard Highlander that is proportioned like that.

MWO got it right.

Don't forget, they CANNOT use any MWO art as a guideline. No exceptions, unless you want to chip in for a licensing fee that Microsoft would be interested in.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #76 on: 19 February 2014, 17:16:23 »
Yea, the IIc is the better of the 2.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #77 on: 19 February 2014, 17:24:02 »
The Highlander artwork shows just how subjective art is. The two canon artworks? No, I don't want another Mini based on that. At least the current sculpt is based on the imho better of the two artworks. The MWO version? Better, but still not very good imho.

So without a clear canon direction we could run circles with everyone finding reasons to justify why their taste is the way to go...
I think that the main problem with the current sculpt is that is very low on detail. This is especially true for the weapons, in the IS version they are basicly hidden in the Mech, while in the IIC they have a lot of presence.

However this problem does originate primarily from the canon art.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #78 on: 19 February 2014, 17:28:12 »
Gunslinger please

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #79 on: 19 February 2014, 17:34:33 »
Current Highlander may be disappointing for some but it doesnt fall under the horrible category...

Gunslinger is a prime example fo a resculpt and its popular enough to sell


http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=3830


Youll notice even an excellent painter had to pull out some random free hand to draw away from a completely undetailed anf boring miniature...with a head that looks like Finn from Adventure Time...

If that pic doesnt demand resculpt priority over the Highlander, not sure what to say....
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #80 on: 19 February 2014, 18:01:25 »

Grand Dragon.
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Gunslinger
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I'd really love to see a lot of the classic 3025 mechs get a redo to modern scale but still be done in few-piece castings, but that is really unlikely to happen.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #81 on: 19 February 2014, 18:07:50 »
I modern Cent would also be nice i agree....not so thin and static!
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #82 on: 19 February 2014, 18:08:32 »
Orion
This one could use some true improvement, in my opinion its problem is with its horrible shoulders and floppy head top. But like the Highlander it would actually need some new art before a sculptor could fix it.


Edit: A better solution would likely be to sculpt the ON3-M ORION....... please do this IWM (but please no horrible thin LRM launcher).
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #83 on: 19 February 2014, 18:15:02 »
The Kraken/Bane has been given new life with the XR sculpt; I think many of them are being bought in order to make non-experimental versions. I predict that when the 3145 Black Knight mini debuts later this year, it'll end up proxying in older eras instead of ol'bandy legs.

The Vanquisher - desperately needs a resulpt to match the art, the mini looks like I sat on it. The absurdly obscenely grossly oversized LGRs are, unfortunately, in the art, and we're stuck with them. In all honesty though, the existign Vanq, with different arms, is not actually a bad sculpt.

Oh, if only we could get the MW4 sculpt for the Highlander (and other David White sculpts - but I know that won't happen, so I'll just weep silently and move on.).

Have to acknowledge the Dragon/Grand Dragon as worth of a resulpt.

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #84 on: 19 February 2014, 18:17:47 »
Oh, if only we could get the MW4 sculpt for the Highlander (and other David White sculpts - but I know that won't happen, so I'll just weep silently and move on.).

I know what you mean. I would still love for his Hellhound to somehow make it into regular BT, one of these days.
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #85 on: 19 February 2014, 18:34:58 »
Current Highlander may be disappointing for some but it doesnt fall under the horrible category...

Gunslinger is a prime example fo a resculpt and its popular enough to sell


http://camospecs.com/Miniature.asp?ID=3830


Youll notice even an excellent painter had to pull out some random free hand to draw away from a completely undetailed anf boring miniature...with a head that looks like Finn from Adventure Time...

If that pic doesnt demand resculpt priority over the Highlander, not sure what to say....

Thanks... I think! :)

I love the Gunslinger enough that I have four or five of them, even as bad as the sculpt is :(

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #86 on: 19 February 2014, 18:47:36 »
Lemme put it this way: My favorite Highlander mini is the Highlander IIC. I'd love a standard Highlander that is proportioned like that.
I agree.

Who drew the Highlander IIc art?
I'd like to see new Highlander mini (& art?) closer to the IIC
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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #87 on: 19 February 2014, 19:03:31 »
Thanks... I think! :)

I love the Gunslinger enough that I have four or five of them, even as bad as the sculpt is :(

Was a compliment though not as flattering as id normally give :p  lol


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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #88 on: 19 February 2014, 19:56:37 »
The Jaegermech gets my vote.  Can't be a proper AC totin' Davion without them, yet they look horrible

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Re: What mech to resculpt?
« Reply #89 on: 19 February 2014, 19:58:19 »
Pouncer.  The way the mini has to be assembled is completely ridiculous.  I also agree with the Cougar, Night Gyr, and Highlander.
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