Getting close to fifty pages, so can I request that the next thread have a shorter title, please? The current one wraps around on my screen, causing me to accidentally go to Bosefius's profile at least once or twice a day.
OoOoOooooo - Green Eyeshade ^-^is that an inside joke that I am not getting?
is that an inside joke that I am not getting?
:o ::) ;D Well I' am done and confirm with order or pledge to the Kickstarter. I spend to much again and by the way where did Lost Tech dice come from or did I forget about them . I did 2 shipments.
I confirmed with, so far, 17 bucks above my original pledge. Can always add more later, but that way I get what is the most important to me and can take my sweet time for additional stuff without running the risk to forget to click "finish" in time for Wave 1.
I find the "please finish your pledge manager" e-mail a bit dissonant with whole "remain open for 60-90 days" position. At least it gave me fourth or fifth avenue to ask about the Canon Character Add-on. No response, aside from Bosefius' thought on the matter in the previous thread.
Have the comstar pack names/contents been sorted out yet?
Ack, I'd forgotten. I shaved off a bit. Maybe that will be enough.It was for me, thanks!
That's a CrowdOx email to get you to finish. CrowdOx makes, my guess, the most money from the people finalizing their pledge and then paying. They want money, so they send out mails to get people to give them money ;)Makes sense.
Have the comstar pack names/contents been sorted out yet?
I grabbed the Wave 2 star I reeeeally wanted (Fire Star, for the FIRE MOTH, the objectively best mech that exists); I want to grab another Wave 2 star but I don't have Deep Convictions about any of them. What would you get? I already got one of each for the Wave 1 stars.
Quick question regarding the faction dice. When I made my selection, the different factions showed up in different colors, are those the dice colors?from my understanding the colors are the colors of the dice, however you have to take into account that the dice will be translucent so the appearance might slightly differ.
The Heavy Battle star gives you the Turkina and Huntsman, which fit well into Jade Falcon and Nova Cats, respectively. Heavies are a little underrepresented in the campaign so the Ebon Jaguar and Crossbow are useful too. I'd get that pack.
Quick question regarding the faction dice. When I made my selection, the different factions showed up in different colors, are those the dice colors?
If I understand you right, yes, they are, though the real dice will have a translucent base color and that doesn't really show in the preview.
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Do we know much about the CamoSpecs document? I assume it'll take a while to put together. I'm just nervous about painting up a unit using an old description or image and then having it invalidated with a new one. For a couple of examples, the 1988 Camo Specs book (https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Camo_Specs (https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Camo_Specs)) shows a Syrtis Fusiliers unit in green and white, whereas they're more recently described as being in dark green without an accent color. The 33rd Avalon Hussars show up as white or very light gray with black trim; they haven't been described since then, as far as I know.
I'm considering painting up a new force as the 20th or 33rd Avalon Hussars because their history matches up well with the other units I'm working on. The 20th is described as light gray with green and tan highlights, which doesn't work very well, imo. The Camo Specs painted examples use an orangey tan, which makes me wonder if I can pull off a Renown Mazda 787b orange/green pattern over light gray. It'd be a stretch. The 33rd's image as described above is a little bland, and a little too close to a Comstar force I'd like to do someday. And for all I know, the black secondary color is subject to change.
Have the comstar pack names/contents been sorted out yet?
Do we know much about the CamoSpecs document? I assume it'll take a while to put together. I'm just nervous about painting up a unit using an old description or image and then having it invalidated with a new one.
To bad Flashman was not in that same pack.
(...)Second, from what very brief and preliminary discussion has filtered down, I don't think you need to worry about your Avalon Hussar choices having their schemes overridden.
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Only $6 over my initial estimate once they sorted the Comstar Monitoring Station issue.
Just checking back in.I think you didn't get to the addon page initially and skipped directly to confirmation and shipping.
As a proud $1 backer (but not for much longer), what was the issue there?
I think you didn't get to the addon page initially and skipped directly to confirmation and shipping.
Ah, okay. I'm seeing that as page #2 on my pledge manager, so it seems fixed.
Now I just need to find some time to work through all this...
Whatever they sort out, I hope it stays with the picture/icon. I had to do a double take and chose the one with the mechs I wanted.
Adding an extra star pack and a plushie (not previously budgeted) pushed me noticeably above my original pledge, but it was worth it.
Now I just need to stay away from the "modify order" button for the next couple of months.
I want to grab another Wave 2 star but I don't have Deep Convictions about any of them. What would you get?
is that an inside joke that I am not getting?
Just tell your FLGS that you buy things from that you want one of those packs . . . have to wait a bit, but its win win.
[edit] so how long exactly will the PM be up? ... Two months is just dangerous territory and asking me to secrete some more funding into my order. ... I mean If I put in another $100, I could bump up to S.C. and get all of my separate packs included.
Careful with the abbreviations. It’s pretty clear what you’re referring to, but there are three levels with “S.C.” initials.
Tell me about it.
Me: "Managed to cut down what I wanted so I only went $40USD over my original pledge."
Mrs WT: "Why didn't you get all the things you wanted?"
Me:"Änother $300USD, that's why ...""Well honey, if you insist!"
Remember, most of this stuff will be available after the Kickstarter is over.well, yes and no.
well, yes and no.
With BT and CG as an established license and company the appearance of stuff post ks will be more reliable than with most start up ks where often enough their retail goals fall significantly short.
However for non US prices and availability might be a bit less favorable, in particular with regards to shipping.
edit:
just as an example: a Colonel would cost alone something around 55$ in VAT additional to any shipping, when ordering something of that value directly from the US. So the ~30$ shipping is a very good deal for that range.
Also, the pledges of better deals than any single retail mech box would.
the Colonel is at 3,8$ per mech (assuming 5 mechs per selection and pretending it's only mechs and ignoring all the other stuff)
Which makes the selection process a lot harder .... :)
which incidentally also caused the for CG problematic number of canon characters they have to deal with. When a pledge level is the best deal no matter what you are looking for then you get a lot of collateral characters. ;)
Tell me about it.Yeah, plushie... Maybe after Christmas.
Me: "Managed to cut down what I wanted so I only went $40USD over my original pledge."
Mrs WT: "Why didn't you get all the things you wanted?"
Me: "Änother $300USD, that's why ..."
Using logic
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_well-theres-your-problem-memegenerator-net-well-theres-your-problem-51467207.png)in an Universe of bipedal machines in the 100t range? call me surprised. ;)
Currently "between jobs", so maybe not. Otherwise, I'm sure that would have been the case.
We could use a nanny!
Via Patreon, I got the new 3D render for the Crusader and it's sad to say, but the missile arms are here to stay. Using logic, I'm still trying to figure out how the ammunition gets from the torso and through the shoulder and elbow joints and then makes it to the launcher. The same goes for the SRMs and the ammo going from CT thru the waist and hips. I'm going to blame it on FASA FizziksWhy do you think this mech dies to floating crits! ;D ;D ;D
Via Patreon, I got the new 3D render for the Crusader and it's sad to say, but the missile arms are here to stay. Using logic, I'm still trying to figure out how the ammunition gets from the torso and through the shoulder and elbow joints and then makes it to the launcher. The same goes for the SRMs and the ammo going from CT thru the waist and hips. I'm going to blame it on FASA FizziksIt is quite simple the missiles are transported as small pieces to the launcher and the launcher assembles them into missiles. ;)
Yeah, I am negotiating with my FLGS to pick up extra dice, coins, and I think one of the Legendary boxes they get. Doing it by email to keep track, lol.
Other than the Canon Character, the one thing I did not see mentioned on the Pledge Manager, was the two solo elementals included with our reward.
I think they're listed in with the Clan Invasion Box contents now.
What's not there is the free legendary salvage box for the Comstar, warrior and ristar levels when we get 50$ + of add-on. :-\ :-\ :-\
I tried leaving a comment on the kickstarter page but I'm not sure they saw it. I hope this will be address.
ComStar and Warrior and Ristar pledge levels that amount to greater than $50 are supposed to receive a Legendary Salvage Pack. ComStar backers with pledge levels equal to Warrior will also get an UrbanMech Salvage Box. There was no way to add this to your survey based on your spending level. These will be added on the back end after we close for Wave 1 shipping.they have to be added manually at the end of all things.
I don't know if I missed it but is there some idea how many cards we can expect in Pilot Card Deck (i.e. Champions of Inner Sphere)?
Falcons?! BOOO . . . none of that star was really 'Falcon.' Any Jade Turkey fans able to identify the cluster? Now, its interesting since I think all the IS mechs (Lyran Guards? or Regulars?) Are from the first two boxes . . . Phoenix Hawk, Valkyrie, Archer, Marauder, Warhammer, Wasp, Stinger and way in the back a Rifleman.
I had to chose between Green Bird and Purple Bird. Hardest decision of my life.As long as you chose the Purple Bird, all's okay. ;)
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I think that legit might be the best the Linebacker has ever looked.
That Atlas looks like it has weird grin on it...
Look, they have to avoid the MWO styling, and there's only so many ways to do a skull face. Unless you want to go back to Tusk Atlas, or Hockey Mask Atlas? ;)2013 Intro Box Set cover would've worked: https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:BattleTech_Introductory_Box_Set_cover.jpg
the only issue i have with the switch to forearm launchers on the crusader is that now they'll have to go through and fix the novels, which always describe the launchers as being in the shoulders. (also possibly any fluff in the TRO's referencing the placement.. which iirc is mainly the unlikely to be reprinted Project Phoenix)
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I love these! They're thicccccccccccccccccccccc!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIr-sCkCnRQ
I like the Classic Crusader. Yes, I will miss the launchers in the shoulders, but the arms are more proportionate to the torso than the reseen.
I don’t understand. Isn’t this new one the reseen version?
Unseen (1980s-2000s, previous 3025 era)
Project Phoenix/Reseen (2000s-2010s, 3060s)
Newseen/Classic (2010s-, 3025 era again)
This new one is the Classic.
I don’t understand. Isn’t this new one the reseen version?
This new one is the Classic.
Have we gotten a stand alone image of the Nova Cat? I am curious about how it looks compared to the old- I think I might still prefer the old.
I know about the Project Phoenix mechs, but I didn’t know “reseen” referred to those and not to the new, post-lawsuit designs. I thought “reseen” meant that we were legally allowed to see and use the old designs again, albeit tweaked with modern detailing. Thanks for the clarification!
Quirk: Intimidating.
Look, they have to avoid the MWO styling, and there's only so many ways to do a skull face. Unless you want to go back to Tusk Atlas, or Hockey Mask Atlas? ;)
The Alternate Box Set art is.....WOW! Great work by Marco Mazzoni
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That's not the final artwork. This is.
That explains several conversations that left me confused. I always assumed “Classic” referred to the original minis, some of which I don’t think I’ve ever seen.Yeah, it's a little misleading. I prefer nuSeen. :D
You're right, grabbed the wrong screen cap...cause you know, there was only like 5 different variants, was like playing spot the difference!
Yeah, it's a little misleading. I prefer nuSeen. :D
Interestingly, that packers colors camo scheme works for Clan Wolf Alpha Galaxy post-warden-exodus too.
the only issue i have with the switch to forearm launchers on the crusader is that now they'll have to go through and fix the novels, which always describe the launchers as being in the shoulders. (also possibly any fluff in the TRO's referencing the placement.. which iirc is mainly the unlikely to be reprinted Project Phoenix)
I don't remember any of the novels describing the actual placement of the missile pods in the Crusader's arms, just that they were somewhere on the arms.i remember it being mentioned several times. usually when Galen Cox was piloting one in battle.
I can't remember which loadout it is, but isn't there a Summoner with LRM 15s or 20s in the arms that IWM gave shoulder launchers?
the only issue i have with the switch to forearm launchers on the crusader is that now they'll have to go through and fix the novels, which always describe the launchers as being in the shoulders. (also possibly any fluff in the TRO's referencing the placement.. which iirc is mainly the unlikely to be reprinted Project Phoenix)
Yeah, it's a little misleading. I prefer nuSeen. :D
i remember it being mentioned several times. usually when Galen Cox was piloting one in battle.
Interestingly, that packers colors camo scheme works for Clan Wolf Alpha Galaxy post-warden-exodus too.
Strange. I have one (single) item that was marked as Wave 2, the Initiative Deck.
Yet I there was no Single Wave option to be chosen. Is overseas shipping handled differently? Just curious.
Does anyone have any idea when late backers are going to get the digital rewards that already went out to normal backers during and after the campaign? Update #55 on the KS page notes, regarding digital rewards:on PM completion you get codes for the digital stuff in the catalyst store
"We are providing redemption codes for the ProliferationCycle only at this time. Other items either aren't finished yet or they were provided through Kickstarter's email system. We will send them out again through there, in order to preserve any of them with exclusive status as much as possible."
I'm just curious if anyone has any clue when the "again" is going to happen.
on PM completion you get codes for the digital stuff in the catalyst store
Hey, TPTB, just so people don't freak out, can you let everyone know that when they see the Pledge Manager payment post to "Lynnvander" that this is OK? I nearly wrote a "WTH?" post because I thought it had been sent to a different company/Kickstarter. (A little research https://www.lynnvander.com/about/
scraped me off the ceiling :) )
Lynnvander partnered with Catalyst on the Sprawl Ops Kickstarter and are doing another Shadowrun one with them next year. It's probably a typo
I started downloading some of my digital content over the weekend.The email I got after completing the pledge said it's one code per order.
Is there a way to apply multiple codes to a single order?
Also, do we have an ETA on being able to access the $200 custom character option in the pledge manager? Unless I'm totally missing it, it's still not in mine.
My understand is when they are ready for the character info how that will be collected will come later. I do not believe you will be entering that at this stage.I think he means that there was supposed to be a character addon and that there were comments from CG saying that addon produced issues and was taken out before the PM went live.
I think he means that there was supposed to be a character addon and that there were comments from CG saying that addon produced issues and was taken out before the PM went live.
If I remember the comments correctly, they didn't clearly state if it will be readded once/if the issue is solved or if it was dropped entirely.
Someone on eBay from Canada selling alleged Clan boxes (with the retail box art) on eBay and claims to have two in hand
I’m half tempted to buy it just to see what the swindle is
I really hope some of the product will be sold after kickstarter
Everything that is not labeld as "Kickstarter Exclusive" will make its way into retail. Some stuff perhaps only at cons, but CGL seems to be planning to throw lots of products around to get attention.although when,where, price are TBD at this point.
what are some of your ideas as far as making units (be it lances, companies, or greater) with the kick starter packs?
I would love to read your ideas to trigger some of my own thought.
Is this the appropriate thread for such a question?
what are some of your ideas as far as making units (be it lances, companies, or greater) with the kick starter packs?
I would love to read your ideas to trigger some of my own thought.
Is this the appropriate thread for such a question?
I think he means that there was supposed to be a character addon and that there were comments from CG saying that addon produced issues and was taken out before the PM went live.
If I remember the comments correctly, they didn't clearly state if it will be readded once/if the issue is solved or if it was dropped entirely.
Correct, the add-on for the $200 canon character is not available in the pledge manager at all atm (at least my pledge level). I can't finalize my pledge for this reason.
Speaking of force compositions. I budgeted myself to only get like half of the packs with the plan to buy the other half from my FLGS later.
Does anybody still have a link to that spreadsheet that breaks down how well each packs fits each faction?
I think this was the one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kTrEFEnAM_pfQT_SQug2FUZDttkffw_XEtN5GYCfVDU/edit#gid=1667920373Ah thanks.
no idea how current that is.
Side question, how does he arrive at those percentages? ;)
I know I'm mis-remembering, but I thought there was talk of having the it be a separate event from the PM, or a secondary PM for just those people or those interested/buying?they said the canon chars would be handled separately - with being light on the details. ;)
I am in at star captain. Can I upgrade to bloodname?
That deployment zone map in the new update is really making me want to get a fleet of map-scale DropShipsbut you need sooo many
Too bad they couldn't produce a map with a elemental laying face down in a level I hole in honor of the elemental who chose to break formation. :)your are welcome to sacrifice an elemental for the cause. ;)
Too bad they couldn't produce a map with a elemental laying face down in a level I hole in honor of the elemental who chose to break formation. :)
I loved the map right up until they added the dropship scorches. They're just too much.
what are some of your ideas as far as making units (be it lances, companies, or greater) with the kick starter packs?
I would love to read your ideas to trigger some of my own thought.
Is this the appropriate thread for such a question?
You would actually have to ask your bank. The moment I was able to use PayPal, I used it to avoid those charges from my Credit Card (being German, they are no surprise).
For the Clan units, I will probably use them all for Clan Wolf or Smoke Jaguar. I wanted to do Clan Ghost Bear, but I know they use a significant amount of elementals and I could not bring myself to buy two or three more boxes of the elementals (though perhaps I can buy some once they hit retail). I already have Clan Jade Falcon forces getting put together. I still have time to decide though. My issue with doing Smoke Jaguar is I really want to paint units that exist in most timelines from when they were introduced, at least through Jihad. Obviously Smoke Jaguar, well, got smoked before the Jihad kicked off so it would be hard for me to use them during that timeframe.
Regarding Elementals . . . well, you get 2 stands in the box . . . some of us mount a single Elemental to represent a Point which also makes squeezing them into the hex easier. Not sure how feasible that will be until we actually get the box in our hands.
Are the salvage boxes with wave 2 IS packs going to ship with their appropriate packs or will we get all salvage boxes up front? I would assume wave shipping.I think they answered that somewhere in the comments. The intent seems to be to ship the SBs with wave 1.
I live in Florida (USA) so why the heck am I paying international fees?
they said the canon chars would be handled separately - with being light on the details. ;)
I generally assume that this only for gathering the actual content information.
At least I hope all acquiring of additional chars etc is done by the PM, a) because that's already done implicitly by pledges and b) complicating an informational survey with the ability to buy more is a receipt for chaos.
If the financial side is done in the PM they have at the end of all things a list with how many chars which backer gets and just have to send out the respective surveys in whatever shape or form.
That also means that providing the char info cannot happen until the PM is finally closed as that number isn't fixed until then.
As I said in the post you quoted: you would have to ask your credit card company. Seems strange, though.
The Ghost Bears like using Elementals, but that doesn't mean that every Ghost Bear force needs to have a dozen points of Elementals in it.Correct! Some need Golems or kobold IIC's.
Some view crossing the Florida-Georgia line as entering a different world, so an international charge seems minor!
Yeah, those people in Georgia are STRANGE.... :))
Does anyone know the end date of the Pledge Manager?
Craig
I think they answered that somewhere in the comments. The intent seems to be to ship the SBs with wave 1.
Does anyone know the end date of the Pledge Manager?
Is it time to throw my wallet to the shredder yet?well, no new estimates so far, last: wave 1 not before march, wave 2 somewhere end of 2020ish.
Was wondering when and if we get to buy these things and if any info on when it may be shipped?
Kids are asking for early Christmas gifts!
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if talking retail, they mentioned, more as a warning to backers, that after shipping wave 1, wave 1 elements may appear in some form in retail without being too specific.
I am still waiting for them to contact me. I have sent messages(from the kickstarter page) and post another statement on the updates that I have not been contacted.
I'm waiting for a response myself regarding the canon character pledge issue. As long as we don't have an end date on the pledge manager, then I guess I can wait until they're less busy.I am in the same boat: no response via the e-mail or KS messenger. I'd like a bit of guidance in lieu of problem acknowledgement/fix is coming soon. How about a) if the Canon Character Add-on is inclusive then it will be handled separately; b) if you want the $200 add-on, then do this (e.g., leave $200 credit in your account and complete your pledge).
Is it just me, or is Discord not working?
Pick up a couple of Hetzers to go with the Urbies, in a "police action" lance. Paint them black & white for added verisimilitude.Should add a Firestarter and maybe a Wasp or Stinger to that lance
Is it just me, or is Discord not working?
During yesterday (Saturday) Discord was down for everybody for a few hours, but everything seems to now be working again. Back to your regularly scheduled Kickstarter Mech discussions!It's up for me now, but it was down this morning, at least on my desktop. It seemed to be working consistently on my ipad, but no one has posted there since yesterday.
Is Christmas just plain moved to March? I'm still entirely too excited about all of this.
There’s a official BT discord?
Sorry, I phrased that poorly. I meant that if it were an official Discord server, there would probably be a link to it on the boards or on Catalyst's homepage. The fact that there isn't is evidence it's fan made rather than official.
Is it just me, or is Discord not working?
So, any news on where to put our ideas for the canon characters we will be bringing into existence?
I am holding out hope that they make some of these items available later. My wife will literally kill me if I order anything else, but my 10-year-old son would like the Urbie plushie and we are expecting our fourth kid in February he could share it with.
I've not kept up with news about the Kickstart. Was the Marauder II dropped from minis their doing?
I think they said they are going to re-open when Wave 2 is being prepared, so its possible. I let me FLGS know I wanted certain things which lets me put off paying for them until March or whenever they get here- you might check with any of your local stores that carry BT.
None of my local stores carry BT. :(
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Okay, I just looked at the latest update . . . dice bags are fine,
Hope it doesn't effect the map making too much, 'too many cooks in the kitchen' can be a headache for the creative process and from what I have witness, it's impossible to please everyone in the community.
It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...
Hope it doesn't effect the map making too much, 'too many cooks in the kitchen' can be a headache for the creative process and from what I have witness, it's impossible to please everyone in the community.yeah, from my perspective that usually creates a design what is all over the place.
It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...
It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...
It's a map, does it matter what planet it is supposed to represent?
Not yet. It's an active discussion, more to come. Stay tuned.That was a swift respond, thank you!
I like the Clan one, I'm honestly not a fan of the IS one. I strongly suggested a Cameron Star, and I still wish they went with that.Yeah, I'm actively thinking to re-open my PM just to switch from IS to Clan. The IS map depicted on the bag looks like a kid ate a ton of smarties and then vomited on the bag. I think a contour plot would look better or a Cameron Star or the five house symbols in astrographic order.
Translation: I love it! I don't care what the others look like, that map alone makes the whole set worth it. :drool:
The IS map depicted on the bag looks like a kid ate a ton of smarties and then vomited on the bag.
LOL !!!! :DIsn't that how Kerensky organized the original 20 clans?
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Has anyone else looked at that central mesa and their first instinct was to hide a Demolisher there?
Don't the clans have a mech with Arrow IV??
I doubt that they brought too many of them into the Inner Sphere. Honestly I'd be doubtful if even the Wolves packed half a dozen.
Don't the clans have a mech with Arrow IV??Bowman and Naga pop to mind right away
They could slap a Arrow IV on almost any Omni they wanted, they just didn't want to.
They did it on the Woodsman and the Flamberge.
Isn't that how Kerensky organized the original 20 clans?
Even if you bring Arrows, doing damage to a hidden unit does not reveal it. Dropping an Arrow on a likely hex doesn't tell you if it's empty. It tells you the hex is either empty, contains a now-angry Demolisher, or JUST MAYBE contains a now-dead Demolisher. Unless you drop a LOT of artillery on any given hex, you're actually unlikely to kill anything in it.
I'd expect a few more than that, at least on Tukayyid, for counter-battery and FASCAM duty.
Even if you bring Arrows, doing damage to a hidden unit does not reveal it. Dropping an Arrow on a likely hex doesn't tell you if it's empty. It tells you the hex is either empty, contains a now-angry Demolisher, or JUST MAYBE contains a now-dead Demolisher. Unless you drop a LOT of artillery on any given hex, you're actually unlikely to kill anything in it.
If at first artillery doesn't succeed. Nuke it from orbit.
If you could add one lance to the kickstarter (Or more likely, next kickstarter) what would it be?
If you could add one lance to the kickstarter (Or more likely, next kickstarter) what would it be?
Any four of these 'mechs:
Hermes
Javelin
Vindicator
Dervish
Ostroc
Ostsol
Quickdraw
Caesar
... even Plog's efforts to save the art don't help the very very old model.Can't expect new art to effect an old sculpt. I keep hoping for a resculpt based on Plog's art. It would be glorious.
If you could add one lance to the kickstarter (Or more likely, next kickstarter) what would it be?
Heavy Cav Lance
Ostsol
Ostroc
Ostscout
Dervish
Oooo some of them are new (Valkyrie... the wasp is also awesome)They've all been up on Scroggins' deviant art account for over a year now. Good to see them again, but not really new.
They've all been up on Scroggins' deviant art account for over a year now. Good to see them again, but not really new.
I'd just like to add the Master Unit List has been updated with the Wave 1 art..
the valkyrie and wasp are not the ones on his deviantart.Everything in the Backer email and blog post that I can see was done by ACS. Where are the Plog pics that you linked found?
Does anyone recall a post (or thread) that went over the Clan 'Mechs of the kickstarter, and which specific clan they mostly belonged to? (example: Supernova = Clan Novacat) .
I cannot remember where it was, and i would like to reference some of the info in it.
plog's pieces on the MUL are from 2019 so... apparently some?Seems to be touch ups & adding backgrounds on 3D models.
iirc Plog was did some of the earliest efforts, back before the Harmony Gold lawsuit. did a couple mechs. then the lawsuit hit, they put a hold on the new art until the lawsuit was resolved, and afterwards they hired Scroggins to finish the new art project.
All the 'Mechs in our current box sets, plus the Marauder, Warhammer, Wasp, Valkyrie and Ostscout were done and in products before the lawsuit.As far as I know, the Marauder and Warhammer weren't in production.
All of them with the exception of the Battlemaster (which was done by Alex Iglesais) were done by Scroggins.
Any update on the scenarios?
No.Only problem I can see with this is that those two vehicles must belong to different players.
A Demolisher and a SRM Carrier. After all two vehicles can fit in the same hex and Clans have this thing about not using Artillery. Then some LRM Carriers would look good here and there too. For funsies maybe even some Anti-mek infantry to pull the Clanner out of his mech and exsplain how real war works. And a lawyer. Definately a lawyer. Pretty sure I've just committed a war crime thinking about this.
At the end of each Movement Phase, up to two units from each side may occupy a single hex (a maximum of four). These units can consist of any combination of vehicles and infantry, but only one of the four can be a ’Mech. This maximum is called the stacking limit.
Only problem I can see with this is that those two vehicles must belong to different players.
I'm pretty sure most of us know what you're going to do with those 'mechs... ^-^Honestly, I’m in BT more for the fiction than the actual tabletop play. Not many folks to play with around here, and you don’t need minis for MegaMek, lol. Might talk my DnD group into playing once in a while. Maybe deciding how to form them up will give me an idea to write up in non-canon units. But it’s worth it just for the fiction and stuff, the minis are a bonus.
Honestly, I’m in BT more for the fiction than the actual tabletop play. Not many folks to play with around here, and you don’t need minis for MegaMek, lol. Might talk my DnD group into playing once in a while. Maybe deciding how to form them up will give me an idea to write up in non-canon units. But it’s worth it just for the fiction and stuff, the minis are a bonus.
Where can i find that spreadsheet that basically shows what you purchase at each level? Thank you
Honestly, I’m in BT more for the fiction than the actual tabletop play. Not many folks to play with around here, and you don’t need minis for MegaMek, lol. Might talk my DnD group into playing once in a while. Maybe deciding how to form them up will give me an idea to write up in non-canon units. But it’s worth it just for the fiction and stuff, the minis are a bonus.
Banging them against each other while making laser sounds is a completely reasonable way to use Battletech minis.
...or so I've been told. 8)
Because I'm stupid, has the Character Submissions thingy been opened yet for Star Colonel level backers and, if so, where do you access it?
Because I'm stupid, has the Character Submissions thingy been opened yet for Star Colonel level backers and, if so, where do you access it?
...in general, my advice would be to have a summary update restating all changes that happened while the PM was live and including if it remains now "as is". Usually that isn't necessary with a live PM as it launches in a fixed state and only has minor bug fixes if at all, but in this case a lot of stuff happened between campaign end and now, that having this information in one place with the info that everything is now in a state of "intended" or at least "won't fix" would be very helpful.
Given that was two weeks ago and the latest update slid in the closing in January bit without mentioning the Add-on, the opportunity for "soon" to happen is running out. It might be time to post some official options in lieu of having settled the above "talks". CGL is doing a great job with regular updates; I frankly haven't seen this level of communication as a backer previously. However, an issue that hits ~10% of your backers (particularly the pricey GC, K & FK pledges) automatically plus an unknown Add-on population might be worth an official update on the way ahead within the next cycle...
Supposedly due out in about 3 months. And not a single submission has been taken yet?We've already seen canon characters from backers in Pardoe's KS fiction, so something is already happening.
How many pilot cards are included in the box? And how many more in the wave one packs?I thought it was a more general “your character/art will be in a future canon product”, not in the pilot cards specifically. So they’ve got plenty of time. Some of us will just pop up commanding random units in a historical somewhere, or being notable pilots in future TROs or whatever. Plenty of time.
Supposedly due out in about 3 months. And not a single submission has been taken yet?
That's a buttload of art than needs done in a very tiny window.
And that window's getting smaller every day.
Where in the world are you? My two wave shipping was ~$55
In theory, March.
Just checking the pledge manager and canon character upgrade is at the bottom of the extras page now.Thanks for the heads up.
How many pilot cards are included in the box? And how many more in the wave one packs?
Supposedly due out in about 3 months. And not a single submission has been taken yet?
Pilot cards in the box will probably be like the ones in the IS box - no art. Unsure if any of the premium pilot decks are wave 1
We've already seen canon characters from backers in Pardoe's KS fiction, so something is already happening.
As far as I know, the intent is to implement this in a thorough, carefully-tracked way--not to toss a few names into this or that.Good to hear, though I never had any doubts that CGL would be professional about this.
Blaine's been incorporating fan names into his fiction for the last year or three, so it's possible he's still doing that, and some of the names overlap with those of backers.In his foreword to Rules of Engagement, Pardoe is pretty explicit about using a number of canon characters from KS backers. Maybe these were top tier backers or otherwise people Pardoe knows personally.
Thought GalCom came with the canon character?It does but an add-on purchase will boost your scope of involvement somehow.
It does but an add-on purchase will boost your scope of involvement somehow.
The difference between Star Colonel and Galaxy Commander & Up boosted your scope- Star Colonel we just get name and the other blurb stuff that maybe used. Galaxy Commander gets a likeness and more implied notice in the use of the character. The Character Add-On, by the way I read it, was a stand-alone of the GalCom or better level character.I'm not trying to be pedantic or obtuse here so bear with me please. The difference between SC and GC was that SC was name with no art while GC and above is name and art. My interpretation of the the Add-on was to generate the same effect as at GC without pledging at that level (e.g., you pledge at Bloodnamed and get a canon character). I base that belief on the Add-on saying, for $200 on less, "You will name a canon character, guaranteed to appear in sourcebooks or fiction, and will receive custom art making your likeness a part of the Battletech universe." I believe we may be on the same page here but I struck your adjectives (i.e., boosted and blurb stuff) to make my point below.
Pretty sure the Upgrade for the GC's just gives you more characters.Here's what the Add-on says:
Here's what the Add-on says:
"Canon Character Upgrade [Galaxy Cmdr and above] $125
For those who asked, and want to guarantee higher level art/placement of their Canon Characters, subsequent repetitions of this add-on will upgrade your character to a more prominent guaranteed placement in a fiction novel, box set or sourcebook.
Your current Canon Character will already get priority placement due to your reward-rank!
Extra priority can include larger art development, upgrades to serial character, or involvement in larger storyline plots."
I don't read that as an additional character. I also don't know what it means at Star Colonel or below.
Canon Character Art Add-on/Character Upgrade [Star Colonel] $125
3 per customer (3 Left)
For the Star Colonel who has a Canon Character and wants the Art Upgrade... This is it!
Your character image will be guaranteed to appear in a future BattleTech product. There is no guarantee it will appear with your Character name and stats, but we will make a reasonable effort to do so, according to the needs of the product.
(For those who asked, and want to guarantee higher level art/placement, subsequent repetitions of this add-on will upgrade your character to a more prominent guaranteed placement in a fiction novel, box set or sourcebook.)
One thing my receipt quote didn't have was a count on the add-on. SC has up to three while GC has up to two so I would hazard a guess that Khan's can likewise bump up with one add-on to a Full Kerenksy level.
Welp, I got some extra cash from work today, so I can spend more on the kickstarter.Gotta get those Bivalve IICs. ;D
I opted as Star Captain with Clam Heavy Striker Star and IS Command Lance (gotta get me some Marauders) as pledge rewards and an IS Battle Lance and Legendary Mechwariors mech pack as extras. Right now I don't know what else to get. I want to keep my items Wave 1 only.
I was thinking of getting another IS Battle lance and the Clam Command Star, but than there is also IS Retaliation pack and a number of rulebooks with free shipping (that would cost about double their price total with shipping, when ordered from Catalyst store).
Command Star is something I am really unsure of. On the one hand I get the urge of "gotta get them all", but on the other hand I am really interested in the Summoner and Dire Wolf out of that lance. Let's not forget I will be getting a Dire Wolf out of the legendary mech pack already, so it boils done to getting Command Star just for one mech I am really interested into. Maybe getting the Elemental Star instead would be a better option for me, but the price tag for that one is rubbing me the wrong way.
Considering that I already have AGOAC rulebook, and will be getting Clan Invasion rulebook, are other rulebooks essential for quality gameplay? Should I get rulebooks now, or focus more on the miniatures? I am still learning my ropes with BT, haven't played anything for more than a month now, since I had my first 3-4 games, so I haven't exhausted the usefulness of AGOAC rulebook yet.
For rulebooks in general, pdf is the way to go. I personally hate saying that, but the price differential is just too high.
Is there a difference between the .pdf from CGL or the Kickstarter.No difference I know of... if they tell you you're getting the pdf as part of the Kickstarter, you're golden...
Realizing I may need to get something more than what I have.
DriveThruRPG might still have TO as a pdf. It's at least worth checking.
Not a bad way to learn German, really... ^-^although in that case both language versions would be useful, and there goes the discount. ;)
So I'm totally late confirming my pledge.
I see some items were removed & the total donation is less.
Do I get that money back?
Or am I supposed to just buy more stuff to make up the difference?
Not a bad way to learn German, really... ^-^
So I'm totally late confirming my pledge.
I see some items were removed & the total donation is less.
Do I get that money back?
Or am I supposed to just buy more stuff to make up the difference?
I was under the impression it was mainly so we could opt out of bulky items like the maps that cost extra to ship.
For rulebooks in general, pdf is the way to go. I personally hate saying that, but the price differential is just too high.
For rulebooks in general, pdf is the way to go. I personally hate saying that, but the price differential is just too high.I disagree, but it is a matter of habits and preferences, I guess. I can read more concentrated in print books and comparing or cross-reading several books at the same time is a chore for me on the computer. I already use a dual monitor setup, but I still prefer to have the main text in print and reference texts on my computer.
Actually, given the problems the German translation has ... there are at least more useful ways. TW was riddled with errors. Never cared enough to look at TO after that.Yeah, it seems to be a constant of our hobby / market sector that German translations are really, really bad. The problem seems to be that professional translators often know nothing of the matter and gamers know nothing of translation. Plus, money is tight and that doesn't buy you the best services. Maybe at some point German publishers will step up their game and learn the value of quality control and limiting themselves to core products.
Yeah, it seems to be a constant of our hobby / market sector that German translations are really, really bad. The problem seems to be that professional translators often know nothing of the matter and gamers know nothing of translation. Plus, money is tight and that doesn't buy you the best services. Maybe at some point German publishers will step up their game and learn the value of quality control and limiting themselves to core products.even if a translation is halfway decent, for me there are other reasons to usually avoid them:
It's a vicious circle of course. If you only offer select books, product lines cannot compete with native language ones. And if you translate badly, they cannot either.
I’m guessing they’ve taken TO off the store in anticipation of re-releasing it as a two volume set.
To enhance the experience, think of it as a renaissance market with cgl employees in period appropriate dress shouting above the din about rulebooks of the highest quality and most reasonable priceNo. xp
To enhance the experience, think of it as a renaissance market with cgl employees in period appropriate dress shouting above the din about rulebooks of the highest quality and most reasonable price
OfficialTM answer is yes, that's the case. Damned if I can figure out who/how/when it was removed, but...yes. We didn't want people buying even the PDF version of something that's about to be re-printed in a very different format. (Two products rather than one.)
Wolf72, it's up to you whether you want to buy the soon-to-be-old-version of the PDF via DTRPG--if you haven't already. But loud and clear, TO will be back "soon" (but, like, very soon) via the CGL store and probably DTRPG* as two separate volumes in PDF and eventually print. Just so's you can't say we didn't tell you.
*I have no idea whether DTRPG would know that they should pull the original TO PDF and fully replace it with the two new products, or if they'd leave the old version active and offer all three for sale. I'd hope it's the former by default, but I'm going to add that to my list of stuff to check into.
All I know for sure from the start is I want some Com Guards. None of the Star Packs really scream any specific clan, so I need to figure out which are the most Ghost bear and (mainly) how many I want.
I don't really have a problem with duplicates since most of my mechs are from the old box set and I'd welcome newer, better minis.
I have a Lvl-II of CG out of maybe a dozen SLDF era mechs with the rest scattered around in other units.I just still don't really have a good solid core of mechs, so I need a decent spread, but I'd still prefer to have a couple stars/lances/L IIs of my favorite factions and build off of that. I've not decided to go full in and buy everything now that I can't pick up later at a store, which is why I am concerned with choosing, otherwise one of each would be my default answer. and, to be frank, I'm not super solid on force building, so I'm not 100% sure what a good spread of mechs to choose from would be anyway.
Those 4 Lvl-IIs will allow me to Triple both the # of mechs painted for CG & the amount of SLDF mechs dispersed to other units.
I wasn't worried about Faction Specific Clan mechs really.
I was just looking at fleshing out the collection to give me examples of units I used to ignore from later TRO's (3060+) or Factions that were not my favs (JFSB Mechs).
For example, I'll have a duplicate Kodiak from the Ad-Hoc Star but pick up a bunch of Lights that I don't own, so it was a solid trade off.
I ended up picking up close to $100 in added stuff to make up for the items they removed, lol, I went quite a bit over but decided to get the Intro/AGoAC boxes as well.
So, with the Canon Character now appearing in pledge manager, if I've already finished my selecting, do I have to go back in and trigger anything to make sure I get my Canon Character?if you mean the Character upgrade addon for existing characters, then you have to unlock you pledge to add it, but that should be simple as it changes only an addon.
I was wondering how we go about doing that too.As far as I know, we havent't been officially asked to provide character details for the authors.
I really need to go through the 50+ emails from KS that I have not finished reading.
As far as I know, we havent't been officially asked to provide character details for the authors.and since we all still can mess around in the pledge manager I doubt that will happen until it closes.
For the reinforcement poster it is worth mentioning, that you can get it for merely $3, which basically only covers production costs on it. They are selling it cheap to make up for the change
Even cheaper, only $2!
I made sure to get multiple copies of all the posters so that I can mount them on my wall and show both sides.
I just still don't really have a good solid core of mechs, so I need a decent spread, but I'd still prefer to have a couple stars/lances/L IIs of my favorite factions and build off of that. I've not decided to go full in and buy everything now that I can't pick up later at a store, which is why I am concerned with choosing, otherwise one of each would be my default answer. and, to be frank, I'm not super solid on force building, so I'm not 100% sure what a good spread of mechs to choose from would be anyway.
I AM grabbing the box set mechs so I can later buy a boxed set to double up on those without ending up doubled up on all the other stuff in there (speaking of, did Game Depot have any boxes last you were there?).
The Dragonfly (Viper) has always looked weird
(https://mulimages.s3.amazonaws.com/Viper.jpg)
something about the lower leg. it's in proportion as far as i can tell but something bugs me about it
(https://mulimages.s3.amazonaws.com/Viper.jpg)That’s the best that the Viper has ever looked.
something about the lower leg. it's in proportion as far as i can tell but something bugs me about it
(https://mulimages.s3.amazonaws.com/Viper.jpg)
something about the lower leg. it's in proportion as far as i can tell but something bugs me about it
Oh man, that Timber Wolf loadout spread in today's emal. Gorgeous. I can't wait for the wallpaper versions.
I think I prefer the version with the Logo in red and in the top corer with the Japanese text underneath it.companies tend to stick to their current logos for brand recognition, so I doubt that will happen. ;)
Oh man, that Timber Wolf loadout spread in today's emal. Gorgeous. I can't wait for the wallpaper versions.
I think I prefer the version with the Logo in red and in the top corer with the Japanese text underneath it.
And its a Wolf machine, very appropriate
companies tend to stick to their current logos for brand recognition, so I doubt that will happen. ;)
Oh man, that Timber Wolf loadout spread in today's emal.It looks cool, just not overly impressive. Is that just one configuration worth of weapons? The number laid out seems kind of low. Far from, "...the full range of Omni weapons and ammo that the Clanners had access to." :-\
1 Starfire 375 Extralight Fusion Engine (19.5t)
20 Double Heatsinks (15 In Engine, 5 modular)
4 tons EndoSteel Structure
12 tons FerroFibrous Armor
4 Ton Omnimech Gyro
3 Ton Cockpit
Base Frame 47.5t Assembled
Pod Space: 27.5t
2 Extended Range Particle Projection Cannons (14t)
2 Extended Range Large Lasers (8t)
2 Extended Range Medium Lasers (2t)
1 Extended Range Small Laser (0.5t)
1 Large Pulse Laser (6t)
3 Medium Pulse Laser (6t)
1 Small Pulse Laser (1t)
1 Light Target Acquisition Gear(0.5t)
2 Heavy Large Laser (8t)
2 Long Range Missile - 20 Launchers (10t)
2 Long Range Missile - 15 Launchers (7t)
4 Streak Short Range Missile - 6 Launchers (12t)
4 Short Range Missile - 6 Launcher (6t)
1 Short Range Missile - 4 Launcher (1t)
2 Advanced Tactical Missile - 9 Launchers (10t)
1 Gauss Rifle (12t)
1 Ultra Autocannon Class 5 (7t)
2 Machine Gun (1t)
2 Antipersonnel Gauss Rifle (1t)
1 Anti-Missile System (0.5t)
2 Artemis IV Fire Control Systems (2t)
5 Modular Clan Double Heatsinks (10t)
5 Jump Jets (5t)
Components: 130.5t
4 LRM Ammo Bin (4t)
3 SSRM Ammo Bin (3t)
4 SRM Ammo Bin (4t)
1 Gauss Ammo Bin (1t)
1 UAC Ammo Bin (1t)
1 Mgun Ammo Bin (1t)
1 Half Mg Ammo Bin (0.5t)
1 AMS Ammo Bin (1t)
6 ATM Ammo Bin (6t)
1 AP Gauss Ammo Bin (1t)
Ammo Bins: 22.5
All Pods: 153t
Pods+Mech: 180.5t
I think the intent is "the parts needed for each canon Timber Wolf configuration" not "every weapon in the clan arsenal"I took this quote directly from the KS email: "...the full range of Omni weapons and ammo that the Clanners had access to." I am not seeing ATM launchers, UA/C's, gauss rifles, etc. What is in the picture is only enough weapons for the Prime configuration: 2x ER Large Lasers, 2x ER Medium Lasers, 1x Medium Pulse Laser, 2x LRM-20s with 2 tons of ammo, and 2x Machine Guns with one ton of ammo.
I thought they did because I've been able to download updated printings from them based on my original purchases. Maybe they've changed their policy on that...
Well, the option to upgrade your canon character is now available.
How do you do that? (says she who probably can't afford it, but...)
For me, I started out at Star commander, had my pledge unlocked to Star Captain, now I need it unlocked to Bloodnamed; I’ve reached out to Loren and Talon, and I’ve had no joy on either front so far. :(why did you lock it again in while you are still thinking about the pledge choice? by now that should sound like a bad idea
why did you lock it again in while you are still thinking about the pledge choice? by now that should sound like a bad idea
people seem to be hell bent on making an automated process into a manual procedure - no wonder their inbox gets flooded ;)
So totally my fault lol. Anthony Scroggins needs to stop making these stupid sexy redesigns!I'll take a page from our greenie 40K friends and suggest that the redesigns are Scroggin' gorgeous!
Just kidding, don’t stop...
Upper shoulder past the cockpit, you can see a CIWS type AMS set up, between cockpit and shoulder ring.
New line art looks good . . . still not sure about the stepping Viper like others mentioned-(Referring to the preview in the new KS email?)
I need to do some planning, and need a memory refresher. The Star with all the IICs, the Urbanplush, and Map Set Alien Worlds: all Wave 2?I believe that is the case, but don't quote me on that. ;D
Upper shoulder past the cockpit, you can see a CIWS type AMS set up, between cockpit and shoulder ring.
I think they said 7-8 months after Wave 1 at some point?
I dunno. My personal definition of 'Late' for Wave 1 doesn't start until 2021, and I'm making sure to build absolutely zero preconceptions about Wave 2.
Is the Plush Wave 2? I was thinking it was 1 like the other UrbanMech stuff- but Wave 2 makes sense since we have not seen any updates about how it looks.
Pretty sure a lot of Wave 1 is meant to be shipping in March IIRC, though I think a lot of products promised in Wave 1 will get delayed.
Meant to be, yes. But it's a Kickstarter. I don't remember ever participating in one that's not at least a month late. I'd love it if Wave 1 ships in March, but will raise absolutely no stinks if it instead ships sometime in April-December. Probably won't raise any stinks after that either, because it wouldn't accomplish anything anyway.
To be honest, my ideal would be its components hit retail by late Nov or early Dec 2020 . . . it will make it VERY easy to create Christmas wish list this year for the wife. Honestly, I figure they want to be done with most of the art and dev work on CGL's end before launching the Leviathan's KS this summer, which gives them another 4-6 months to churn it out.Personally I wish they would hold the Leviathan's KS until Wave 1 and 2 are in the can. I would hate to see resources being pulled from Battletech to work on Leviathan.
Pretty sure a lot of Wave 1 is meant to be shipping in March IIRC,
though I think a lot of products promised in Wave 1 will get delayed.
I just hope that if it happens that they communicate clearly and with enough lead time the impact of any changes like that.
To be honest, while the March target would be great, my expectations are for it to be pushed back due to things out of their control. Kickstarter is not a game for the faint of patience :)
I just think there are parts of the Kickstarter that won't ship in time, and get bumped to WAVE 2. Things like Mechwarrior Destiny I don't suspect will be WAVE 1, for instance. It says it is, but that's the kind of thing that's going to cause a "delay" if there is one. But we'll see what they say in February.I doubt stuff gets bumped to wave 2, at least nothing substantial. Their whole two wave shipping is based on items and their contribution to the shipping costs, shifting stuff around after shipping is paid would create a whole lot of problems.
I doubt stuff gets bumped to wave 2, at least nothing substantial. Their whole two wave shipping is based on items and their contribution to the shipping costs, shifting stuff around after shipping is paid would create a whole lot of problems.
If stuff needs more time wave 1 will probably wait.
I just think there are parts of the Kickstarter that won't ship in time, and get bumped to WAVE 2. Things like Mechwarrior Destiny I don't suspect will be WAVE 1, for instance. It says it is, but that's the kind of thing that's going to cause a "delay" if there is one. But we'll see what they say in February.
Personally I wish they would hold the Leviathan's KS until Wave 1 and 2 are in the can. I would hate to see resources being pulled from Battletech to work on Leviathan.
I doubt stuff gets bumped to wave 2, at least nothing substantial.
Indeed, this is honestly the best they can do. Unless the order volume is nearly an order of magnitude larger than even the Kickstarter, I have read that publishing and production houses in China will not uncommonly yank a company's chain, shifting the schedule around if a larger client has a larger order. And that's on top of regular production and sourcing glitches that erase schedule margins in a flash.
...my point was less about the actual progress and more about shipping waves and that if needed a delay of wave 1 is more likely than moving items between waves to keep wave one on time.
I don't want to step on the good work Talon is doing with the KS updates, nor speak out of turn. All I can offer is that those of us involved in making these products are highly aware of the deadlines involved, and work is going mostly well.
...
So it seems to have gotten glossed over: I'm convinced I know what's going on with the other two, but Alien Worlds: Wave 1 or 2, as of now?
Cool, that means that for the stuff I absolutely want, I technically don't need to go back in until the manager is reopened for Wave 2.
Thanks!
They're gonna do that? Cool -- I must have missed that announcement. :)
Reopening after Wave 1 has shipped was their plan and Talon confirmed it a few updates ago. There could, theoretically, still be problems preventing them from doing so, but they are currently planing to reopen.
There probably won't be an update today; They are experiencing technical difficulties.
since it has been included in the canon, why does the 3025 map not include the Aurigan Coalition? it shows all the other periphery powers, including several smaller and less developed than the Aurigan's.They aren't a relevant power, they are just one of many sub-minor powers that fall under Periphery Generic.
They aren't a relevant power, they are just one of many sub-minor powers that fall under Periphery Generic.by that standard half the periphery states they did include should not be on their either.
by that standard half the periphery states they did include should not be on their either.
So leaving aside specific mechs.
What weight class would you think each chess piece represents?
In my mind it would be something like this....
Pawn = Light
Knight = Medium
Bishop/Rook = Heavy
King/Queen = Assault
Pawn (Light) = Stinger or WaspThe Knight almost has to be something that jumps, given how the piece moves. I’d have the Rook being heavier than the Knight or Bishop, in reflection of the traditional point valuing. The Queen should be the best mech on the field, certainly not a Charger.
Rook (Medium) = Phoenix Hawk or Shadow Hawk
Bishop (Medium) = Wyvern
Knight (Heavy) = Black Knight
Queen (Assault) = Charger
King = (Assault) Emperor or King Crab
Here's what the Add-on says:
"Canon Character Upgrade [Galaxy Cmdr and above] $125
For those who asked, and want to guarantee higher level art/placement of their Canon Characters, subsequent repetitions of this add-on will upgrade your character to a more prominent guaranteed placement in a fiction novel, box set or sourcebook.
Your current Canon Character will already get priority placement due to your reward-rank!
Extra priority can include larger art development, upgrades to serial character, or involvement in larger storyline plots."
I don't read that as an additional character. I also don't know what it means at Star Colonel or below.
for colonel it reads as this:QuoteCanon Character Art Add-on/Character Upgrade [Star Colonel] $125
3 per customer (3 Left)
For the Star Colonel who has a Canon Character and wants the Art Upgrade... This is it!
Your character image will be guaranteed to appear in a future BattleTech product. There is no guarantee it will appear with your Character name and stats, but we will make a reasonable effort to do so, according to the needs of the product.
(For those who asked, and want to guarantee higher level art/placement, subsequent repetitions of this add-on will upgrade your character to a more prominent guaranteed placement in a fiction novel, box set or sourcebook.)
so in general this is not an additional char addon it is an upgrade to the existing one part of either SC or GC pledge.
My read is that, at SC with one of these upgrades you will have the art and possibly the priority of the GC version without extra updates.
Additional upgrades would increase priority in both cases.
Of course it isn't clearly defined what sort of priority increase it really is, so personally I wouldn't use it for that purpose.
In the SC case it might be worth it for the art, depending on interest and how much money you are willing to spend for that.
a bit of unnecessary vagueness that might bite them later on. ;)
I'm not even sure that anyone ever asked for offering increased priority upgrades.
A simple art upgrade for the non artsy char and the still/again/for good missing char addon might have been easier.
Canon Character Add-on (with art) [Bloodnamed! and below]So it looks like this additional char is limited to main pledges that don't contain an own and works the same after that.
$200
3 per customer (3 Left)
For those who did not get a Canon Character as part of their pledge level, and wish to enjoy being a part of the BattleTech Universe, this is for you!
Your character image will be guaranteed to appear in a future BattleTech product. There is no guarantee it will appear with your Character name and stats, but we will make a reasonable effort to do so, according to the needs of the product.
(For those who asked, and want to guarantee higher level art/placement, subsequent repetitions of this add-on will upgrade your character to a more prominent guaranteed placement in a fiction novel, box set or sourcebook.)
From that I would conclude there is no interest in having an addon that just adds random numbers of additional chars from CG side, which I can understand given the number they already have.
I wonder how they are all going to actually fulfill all those submissions.
I wonder how they are all going to actually fulfill all those submissions.
I really wish they gave us the option to give up the canon character. I would have much rather got some other items as part of my pledge.I doubt that will happen since they didn't do it neither when the PM went live nor when they added the upgrade addon. And let's be honest, the pledges with chars are already good deals and dropping anything close to the addon price would be ridiculous.
They got to have a few thousand canon characters and I wonder how they are all going to actually fulfill all those submissions.as long as they don't loose the char data they will gather at some point, this is the least of their problems as there is no timeline attached to this part of the fulfillment process. It may take a few years or five, as long as CG still does Battletech at that point...
Make a news report combined with an obituary listing the casualties.
This was suggested almost immediately upon the KS's launch, and I'm 99 pct sure management knocked it down in a comment or AMA.I didn't expect it to be so, but it would be incredible funny. :)
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Personally, I thought from the start having "get a character mention" was a bad add-on because of the logistics of it all, and even I wasn't expecting it to be super popular.It wasn't exactly super-popular, it just mostly overlapped with the most cost-effective level for minis and swag.
but what's done is done.
Second note: We are providing redemption codes for the ProliferationCycle only at this time. Other items either aren't finished yet or they were provided through Kickstarter's email system. We will send them out again through there, in order to preserve any of them with exclusive status as much as possible.
I for one would appreciate, if you could have some sort of notification in which publication your character appears, so that you won't miss buying the book in which you are in.I think they commented on that some time ago. If I remember correctly, it will be more of a case of you being able to check the status of the char by accessing some web page than them sending out notifications.
But I am not confident, that will happen :(
So I joined the Kickstarter as a late backer through the Crowdox site at the khan level (so...many...mechs :D). But Kickstarter doesn't recognize me as a backer. So I can't post comments or questions to the Kickstarter page.you should be still able to contact them through the ks message system if needed, although I don't know if ks attaches some backer info to the messages and therefore your message would land in some kind of "other" bin - responses would take some time anyway, they seem to be flooded. :)
Also, there is some content that is only being delivered via the Kickstarter systems according to update #55the stuff provided during ks was made available in a temporary dropbox location, and they mentioned they were planning to provide it through crowdox in the end. I haven't closed my PM yet, so I can't tell you what elements you get and which are still missing from the previous stuff.
Anyone have any idea how I can access the content that is being delivered solely via kickstarter accounts? The crowdox system heavily implied that I would still get all the benefits of a Kickstarter backer even though I was late to the party.
When your pledge finalizes you get emailed a 1 time redemption code to get the digital rewards. Most are present, the only ones that I know of are not are the 1st & 2nd Founding of the Clans novels.I closed mine late last month and only got the Proliferation Cycle stuff. Haven’t had any other communication.
When your pledge finalizes you get emailed a 1 time redemption code to get the digital rewards. Most are present, the only ones that I know of are not are the 1st & 2nd Founding of the Clans novels.
We are providing redemption codes for the ProliferationCycle only at this time. Other items either aren't finished yet or they were provided through Kickstarter's email system. We will send them out again through there, in order to preserve any of them with exclusive status as much as possible.
and they mentioned they were planning to provide it through crowdox in the end
...hmm, no idea where, probably earlier. might be superseded by that update or they were too unspecific before, both entirely possible. ;)
Any idea where they mention that? I've read as much as I can and the most recent update on the specific digital content I mentioned is in update #55 saying it would only be released via Kickstarter.
hmm, no idea where, probably earlier. might be superseded by that update or they were too unspecific before, both entirely possible. ;)
I would drop them a message asking for clarification on how/if that works for late backers. Might take some time, but given that it relates only peripherally to the PM there isn't that much time pressure.
Hello, I donated to Kickstarter in November of 2019 and I was wondering where I can see the updates other than here? I haven't been able to download anything except the Mech proliferation series. Who do I need to talk too?you mentioned November, so you probably entered as a late backer directly through the CrowdOx system, right?
As a follow up to my previous questions, if anyone else was in a similar boat, I got a response from CGL via the kickstarter message system. They are aware that there are some digital items that need to be provided to late backers and they are working on a solution.
I love asking dumb questions, so I shall proudly continue that tradition here.well, you can still join in case you missed it
Do we have a rough idea of when all this new stuff is going to be available to commonplace mortals who didn't back the kickstarter? Late 2020, first half of 2021, "to be announced"?
Finally did my PM. A bit more messy than other PMs I've done, but it gets the job done.
Opted to not get the neoprene maps. I like them, but the one I was after was strana mechty and you'd need two to get both halves of the circle. Not paying that much for sight unseen. Far as I understand, it's available later? Paper? I only budgeted an extra $200 in my pledge so I was very careful as I selected addons. When I was done I still had over $100 left. ;D Went back a little less finicky and got to only owing $6.09. :thumbsup:
Upgrading my character was really tempting but a bit too much for something like that. Maybe if the upgrade is still an option after I get my tax return.
No clear indications. They had hinted that some of the wave 1 stuff might hit retail after initial delivery but before wave 2 - but no official scheduleCheers. I'll hope for summer then.
well, you can still join in case you missed itNot with shipping rates as they are from across the pond.
https://app.crowdox.com/projects/450703636/battletech-clan-invasion
although with the same scheduling uncertainties common for ks.
Question for Catalyst: later than anticipated pledge closure, mini samples not yet delivered, Chinese New Year coming up: March delivery for wave 1 backers not in the cards, right?
Strana Mechty should not be available in paper later on, no.
Cheers. I'll hope for summer then.can't speak for all international shipping, but at least EU shipping is way lower than ordering from the US in retail.
Not with shipping rates as they are from across the pond.
Cheers. I'll hope for summer then.
Not with shipping rates as they are from across the pond.
What about neoprene? KS only?
They have warehouses around the globe. Across the pond isn't really true. Where are you living?Norway. So I pay 25% VAT on top of everything else. And then a customs fee (easily another 30+ USD) if I don't do all the paperwork myself (which requires knowing the name of the company that does the actual shipping).
With any kickstarter, even if everything goes perfect, just assume you're not going to see anything until 6 months after they said it would be ready and be pleasantly surprised if it shows up earlier.
Norway. So I pay 25% VAT on top of everything else. And then a customs fee (easily another 30+ USD) if I don't do all the paperwork myself (which requires knowing the name of the company that does the actual shipping).
Hence why I want to know when it hits stores.
I know Norway is no EU member, but since when do you have to pay customs fees for stuff send from the EEA?Since as long as I can recall.
With any kickstarter, even if everything goes perfect, just assume you're not going to see anything until 6 months after they said it would be ready and be pleasantly surprised if it shows up earlier.
Considering how little they have in wave 1 to produce I don't think it will slip too much. They likely have all the molds done already for the mechs. By now they already have a base idea on what to produce, and likely will go ahead and overproduce for retail sales (and those who haven't closed their PM) once those start.that's an aspect I personally would like to hear more about from CG, as it would inform my own estimates.
that's an aspect I personally would like to hear more about from CG, as it would inform my own estimates.
However in general I doubt that either the fulfillment company nor the factory in China is interested in doing retail warehousing for them, which would pretty much happen in the "overproduction based on estimates" case.
Because either the factory has to store the stuff until exact numbers are clear and then send on the containers to the various QML distribution hubs and the excess to the CG retail warehouse. Or the factory sends estimated batches in containers to the distribution hubs and QML has to send the excess after fulfillment from every hub to CG's retail warehouse.
Both cases sound like a workaround, that is potentially possible if you pay either party for it, but not necessarily probable.
My guess, if they are running retail production it is on separate line with separate containers, which wouldn't help the ks fulfillment but also wouldn't necessarily have a negative impact.
Of course it is just a guess from my side, based on past ks fulfillment processes, but such processes are always hard to compare as each project is unique and can arrange different workflows.
They will have to overproduce anyway, to be able to compensate for shipments not arriving at their destination and for mispacked items. Whatever is left after that, will be sent from QML to CGL anyway or to retailers.but there is a difference in magnitude.
but there is a difference in magnitude.
Anyway, if it works out fine I won't complain. :)
I just wouldn't rely on it.
Given the problems they have had with the Sprawl Ops Kickstarter and their logistics partner, their margin of error might be rather higher this time around ...which is my point, giving up the security of having exact numbers before production, one of the huge advantages of ks for the creator, would result in excessive safety margins beyond the expected losses, in particular if you use half a dozen shipping hubs which each need those safety margins.
Just to be on the save side.
strana mechty and you'd need two to get both halves of the circle.
Wait, is that accurate? Do I need to go back and grab a second copy just to get a full circle?! what good does that do anyone?
The heck is anyone supposed to do with half of a circle of equals?Lay it out next to a mirror.
Lay it out next to a mirror.or call it the Semicircle of Equals or Circle of semi-equals :)
Why not play half court with it?please, if i'm fighting the Clans, it's full court jungle ball (https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2002-01-03), or nothing.
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j/k of course...
What about neoprene? KS only?It was hinted at "convention only" status. So, similar to one of the Grasslands neoprene maps.
Norway. So I pay 25% VAT on top of everything else. And then a customs fee (easily another 30+ USD) if I don't do all the paperwork myself (which requires knowing the name of the company that does the actual shipping).But as a Norwegian, you'd be part of the EFTA economical zone. Distributions from EU warehouses should not fall under import tax regulations.
No, I'm the one who misread. *grumbles and antes up another $30* The heck is anyone supposed to do with half of a circle of equals?
got my canon character survey last night
Shoot 3 pointers.
Just finished my character survey before anyone got to work this morning. Now to wait five years and find out what happens!
The cool thing about playing BattleTech in person is that it usually requires two people, each of whom may want a map of Strana Mechty.
Which of the four parts of the Ishiyama map? :D
buyback is $150 - either credit to the KS or the CGL webstore.
i had toyed with metagaming the character creation to better appeal to a more likely to appear. instead i stuck with my original concept from the 90s and will almost certainly not get what i want :))
- will those T-shirts be washer friendly or will the logos disintegrate after a couple pass in the machine like most concert T-shirts? :bang:
Just saw the new update for the T-shirts. Call me impressed! I can't wait to display my diamond Shark. 8)
Two things now:
- will those T-shirts be washer friendly or will the logos disintegrate after a couple pass in the machine like most concert T-shirts? :bang:
- As a Ristar, I already downloaded the 3 wallpapers, 3 digital novellas, the proliferation cycle and one of five scenarios. Did any more digital items got released? If not, any previsions like after wave 1 or 2?
Anyway, I wish I had more money available, those T-shirts would be my normal sunday wear. :D
Going by past T-Shirt quality: the logo will stay on for years. So far, CGL's T-Shirts have been high quality and even my oldest one looks like new (and I wear them regularly). I assume the same quality for the Kickstarter-T-Shirts.
Wash your t-shirts on cold and inside out.
Those logos all look fantastic! ...as long as you don't include the Jade Falcon. It's not to the point of being bad, just that whatever they're going for isn't really working in my opinion.I don't know. I am kind of like the Jade Falcon one.
And never put them in the drier. They'll last way longer.
Those logos all look fantastic! ...as long as you don't include the Jade Falcon. It's not to the point of being bad, just that whatever they're going for isn't really working in my opinion.it's the jeweling effect. My impression is that its uneven distribution from almost non existent to hard big facets doesn't really work out.
Really digging the Blood Spirit ... although went Mongoose for faction pack.Just guessing here. I think it would be after the first wave has shipped (or is about ready to)
Speaking of, when will the PM reopen after this one closes?
buyback is $150 - either credit to the KS or the CGL webstore.
Only fair, each player gets to pick their half.
Player1: I choose the Circle of Equals for my half.
Player2: I choose...Ishiyama.
For Galaxy Commanders. $75 for Star Colonels.<sigh> too much, I kind of wish CG wouldn't have offered the option. Now I have to reevaluate this instead of getting chars as drive by collateral damage. ;)
Lay it out next to a mirror.
I got the Snow Raven shirt on pledge....cant wait till I see that one.
$75 for Star Colonels.
Do we have to fully fill in the survey before we can select the credit?
Just guessing here. I think it would be after the first wave has shipped (or is about ready to)
Do we have to fully fill in the survey before we can select the credit?
$75 is kinda in no mans land. Too much to turn down, not enough to get all the stuff I want. :DSee I find $75 to not even be tempting
When wave 2 opens up will wave 1 things still be available? Thinking I want dice.
Do you get a notification that the credit is available or do you have to reopen the PM to find out?Apparently they'll have CGL customer service contact you to finalize it. That's the message I got at the end of the survey.
See I find $75 to not even be tempting
interesting question that came up on ks.
For someone with multiple chars, are they handled in the same survey or do you get one survey per char?
perhaps someone has already seen how that is done.
interesting question that came up on ks.
For someone with multiple chars, are they handled in the same survey or do you get one survey per char?
perhaps someone has already seen how that is done.
do clanners call their own fouls?
I can understand it. For some, the character wasn't important. They just wanted the most stuff for their pledge dollars.
I can understand it. For some, the character wasn't important. They just wanted the most stuff for their pledge dollars.
I am very curious as to how many people will take the cash, but who knows if that info will ever be shared.
for those who already got the surveys.Star Colonels get $75 and Galaxy Commanders get $150 afaik.
How high is the credit for the char buyback option?
If it is too high, I actually have to consider using it. Getting a char as a collateral side effect is one thing, having explicit money in it is another. ;)
$150 was my option at Galaxy Commander. Unsure how it works at lower tiers
All I know about canon characters is that I briefly seriously considered changing my pledge a couple days ago to see if I could get my cat canonized as a character in the battletech universe. ;DWhy not? Maybe he will end up as an accidental test-pilot or JumpShip captain.
All I know about canon characters is that I briefly seriously considered changing my pledge a couple days ago to see if I could get my cat canonized as a character in the battletech universe. ;DConsidering the lack of cat-themed clans, maybe your cat will form a new clan. >:D
(I get weird when I'm sick)
Considering the lack of cat-themed clans, maybe your cat will form a new clan. >:D
Yeah, 3 today! so far . . ?
Okay, I like some of these a LOT . . . ugh, now I have to think about spending MORE money . . . I am REALLY liking the Goliath Scorpion shirt, the Horse & Coyote one are pretty nice too.(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/678/896/c7066edb2487c9b907986ebe1ead3d2d_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1578413645&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=308d5efe53a80a84dd95c9550686513c)
I mean, that is a pretty sharp shirt.
All I know about canon characters is that I briefly seriously considered changing my pledge a couple days ago to see if I could get my cat canonized as a character in the battletech universe. ;D
(I get weird when I'm sick)
That Goliath Scorpion shirt is off the charts badass! I hope eventually every Clan gets a t-shirt!
Every clan is getting a shirt.
Every clan is getting a shirt....which leaves me undecided between Clans Punisher, Spaniel, and Snord. :(
...which leaves me undecided between Clans Punisher, Spaniel, and Snord. :(
Every clan is getting a shirt.
Every original 20 clan gets a shirt.
Not quite . . . Clan Sea Fox is missing . . . which is interesting for its own reason.probably couldn't swim and drowned.
Not quite . . . Clan Sea Fox is missing . . . which is interesting for its own reason.
Did I miss Diamond Shark?
ugh. i absolutely must stick to one shirt. a tragic set of circumstances.
And neither do the Jade Wolfs
So hoping that they reopen shirts for wave 2 ... saw a message on the kickstarter that they might do that.I would guess most stuff is up for the second round of the PM. Even though they might not want to be nailed to a specific statement on that right now.
I wonder how many backers have come in as late backers and how much money has been made since the kickstarter ended?
I wonder how many backers have come in as late backers and how much money has been made since the kickstarter ended?
Or put more money in/ boosted their pledge
Where is that option? Is it in the survey?
Considering the lack of cat-themed clans, maybe your cat will form a new clan. >:D
That Goliath Scorpion shirt is off the charts badass! I hope eventually every Clan gets a t-shirt!
I took the pledge cash from the character survey and need to re-allocate. I honestly don't value a short name drop as nearly as valuable as the cash offer.yeah, mine died when it got explicit monetary value beyond being a pledge gimmick. ;)
yeah, mine died when it got explicit monetary value beyond being a pledge gimmick. ;)
it would have been a fun gimmick, but they offered way too much cash - I think also more than most expected when the topic came up first.
Looks like they were really interested in culling the herd. :)
The IS Shirts are in . . . of course, the red & black designs pop- DC, FS, FC, KH and WD- not sure about the Marik Eagle . . .Most look great, but I question the choice to put the shine/glare in the middle of the Dragoons logo. ???
Okay, I like some of these a LOT . . . ugh, now I have to think about spending MORE money . . . I am REALLY liking the Goliath Scorpion shirt, the Horse & Coyote one are pretty nice too.It absolutely is. I think, I will forfeit my second canon character from the add-on Star Colonel I purchased and get myself this shirt and one of the new rule books; BMM or TO1.
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I mean, that is a pretty sharp shirt.
It's the lack of support from the SIC that surprises me.That one came up during the KS proper a couple of times (see the first or second thread on the KS for that). I presume, SIC lacks support, because they didn't participate in the Invasion, similar to why there is no merch for the Periphery nations, but the FRR gets the full package. The FRR bore the main brunt, after all.
guilty on that, but not by a lot.Guilty and "by some". I spent another $2xy for a total of over $900. :D
I took the pledge cash from the character survey and need to re-allocate. I honestly don't value a short name drop as nearly as valuable as the cash offer.
That one came up during the KS proper a couple of times (see the first or second thread on the KS for that). I presume, SIC lacks support, because they didn't participate in the Invasion, similar to why there is no merch for the Periphery nations, but the FRR gets the full package. The FRR bore the main brunt, after all.
That one came up during the KS proper a couple of times (see the first or second thread on the KS for that). I presume, SIC lacks support, because they didn't participate in the Invasion, similar to why there is no merch for the Periphery nations, but the FRR gets the full package. The FRR bore the main brunt, after all.
It was brought up in the AMAs that a line had to be drawn at 30 factions because it was getting to be too much product for the kickstarter. It was also stated that any factions not currently represented would likely be seen in the future
Cool!you're just a deep cover operative. ;)
because as I chose COMSTAR as my T-SHIRT...I REALLY wanted Word of Blake!
Mercs is where it gets interesting . . .
Gray Death Legion
Hansen's Roughriders- question would be old silver/blue (original & MWDA) or the 'new' brown logo colors
21st Centauri Lancers (b/c MWDA)
ELH, Big Mac and others would not count as already part of a House by FCCW.
you're just a deep cover operative. ;)
On the last dice preview they didn't tell the manufacturer the colors on the Kurita logo are reversed? ???if I understand the comments correctly, to get the details of the dragon you have carve its surroundings and as the carved out parts get the ink color the only way to get a black dragon would have been a black dice with red logo color - and they wanted to keep the red dice color.
if I understand the comments correctly, to get the details of the dragon you have carve its surroundings and as the carved out parts get the ink color the only way to get a black dragon would have been a black dice with red logo color - and they wanted to keep the red dice color.
... and they wanted to keep the red dice color.Like the Kell Hounds dice, the Kurita dice look orange to me. Making them both like the Dragoons would've been my preference. Might be repetitive, but they'd look better.
if I understand the comments correctly, to get the details of the dragon you have carve its surroundings and as the carved out parts get the ink color the only way to get a black dragon would have been a black dice with red logo color - and they wanted to keep the red dice color.
Test shots of minis when? ;)
I would of sworn in some of the earlier updates they showed some
Submitted my survey. Hopefully going for an angle no one else is. I mean he's a *retired* mechwarrior, but now doing something else entirely.
if I understand the comments correctly, to get the details of the dragon you have carve its surroundings and as the carved out parts get the ink color the only way to get a black dragon would have been a black dice with red logo color - and they wanted to keep the red dice color.
I would of sworn in some of the earlier updates they showed some
Submitted my survey. Hopefully going for an angle no one else is. I mean he's a *retired* mechwarrior, but now doing something else entirely.
Rodeo clown?Religious Leader. Might have to compete with ItsTehPope, I suppose.
So it is interesting earlier Cat said on the Drac dice you couldn't do a black dragon unless the dice was black. Well how do you explain this? https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/products/battletech-dice-house-kurita They are litteraly selling a red dice with a black dragon.The emblems on this dice are only printed and not engraved.
I own a few of those sets. The designs are defiantly recessed.Only partial and very lightly.
Only partial and very lightly.
No comparison with the other BT dice (not done by Q-Workshop) I own.
Is the dragon recesed or not? That is what it boils down tooin this case it boils to the question, if both production processes have the same limitations. ;)
Just a thought, some of the stuff for the KS is being made in China right? With the current lurgy over there that's causing a lot of trouble and everything, might this cause a delay in production/delivery?
*snip*I certainly hope the factory isn't in Wuhan...
In theory, the current medical situation could lead to a major delay. But nobody will be able to know for sure at the moment.
Well, I hope Wave 2 isn't going to slip... :PIt is a kickstarter project, hopefully it is only going to slip a bit. ;)
Well, I hope Wave 2 isn't going to slip... :Phow is it supposed to start moving if it doesn't slip at some point. Every step forward starts with conquering friction. ;)
I’m shocked. SHOCKED that there’s a delay.My thoughts exactly. My brother and I were bouncing it around two weeks ago. Our bet is June. And we're good with that. :thumbsup:
“Maybe we were too ambitious.”
I had figured since the first day of the campaign when the numbers went bananas that this was a highly likely outcome.
To be clear, I consider a 1.5 month delay a smashing success for wave 1.
Not a big deal tbh.
I'll say it once again: Kickstarter is not for the faint of patience.
without any context besides the vague hints we get occasionally, 40,000 still seems like a lot.
Agreed. 45 days isn't terrible for an inevitable Kickstarter delay. Heh...There's one project I backed that ended in 2016...and it's only now hitting fulfillment and getting shipped out here soon(fingers crossed) after some major production and manufacturing setbacks. xp
I should clarify - it sounds like a lot as in “a bigger number than the previous boxes” not “I think the number is inflated”
...if the current entertainment landscape is any measurement, the undead are alive and well - hmm, at least they walk. ;)
If this keeps up, I'm going to suspect the old furphy "Battletech? Isn't that dead?" is - at last - dead itself.
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At this point, it doesn't matter if every grognard has bought 5 boxes. I doubt that could account for more than half that quantity. And it keeps selling.
You will receive surveys for all 3 characters seperately.
If you already got one survey, because you pledged as Star Colonel during the Kickstarter, you could just drop that one to free up the money for your friend and later fill out the surveys for the 2 other SCs you will get once Wave 1 closes down.
And: how can I give the information for more than one character in the survey?
Do we know what will and won't be available for when the pledge manager opens back up for Wave 2?
Heh...There's one project I backed that ended in 2016...and it's only now hitting fulfillment and getting shipped out here soon(fingers crossed) after some major production and manufacturing setbacks. xp
Is there a way for those of us who have gone through the late backer, to see the latest update, since it's locked down to Kickstarter backs only?
Is there a way for those of us who have gone through the late backer, to see the latest update, since it's locked down to Kickstarter backs only?
Will any of these be at any cons in the coming year?
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I'm wondering with the delay if some items that otherwise wouldn't have been ready for wave one and were originally scheduled for wave two might now be ready in time and get moved up?
... One is data hygiene, ...
Longshot question: Is there any chance that either of the two retaliation packs will be available at conventions?
That is a very cool catch phrase! Like Math Grammar (neat straight lines, people!!!!).
The only other Kickstarter I've ever been a part of was the Palladium Robotech one. So far Catalyst look like ninja wizards in comparison.
my general rule for KS items, which aren't marked explicitly as ks exclusive, is treating them as "KS exclusive until proven otherwise" for my decision process. ;)My experience with Dwarven Forge (I've backed 5 of their 7 Kickstarters) has been to try to get whatever I really want during the KS (especially when it says they are KS exclusive, which is usually only a few items in alternate paint schemes) because they are frankly terrible at restocking their webstore so I have no idea when (or if) the products will ever be in stock. I was hoping I had missed something and that wouldn't be the case here.
The Inner Sphere set was on-sale at cons last year, so presumably that will continue.That's what prompted me to ask. I saw them last year at GenCon (bought a few singles actually). If they are likely to be sold that way again then I would prefer to wait to get more there. Hopefully if they are available at GenCon again the new set (the Clan box set mechs) will also be available.
In all fairness compared to just Palladium in general, Catalyst looks like ninja wizards. It's not a high bar to cross. :D
I'm not terribly broken up or upset about the delay myself, since I assumed they'd start happening at some point. There's a lot that can go wrong between here and the Chinese manufacturers, and I feel like very little of it could ever really be in Catalyst's control.
Also it gives me extra time to get the room painted and the shelving put up so I actually have a place to display the minis when I get them.
It gives me more time before my wife finds out how much money I spent. :)
I get charged for any extras when the pledge manager closes, yes?
I get charged for any extras when the pledge manager closes, yes?
Now that you can sell back your custom CHR in the Star Colonel+ packages I'm considering getting Star Colonel x2 rather than Star Colonel x1 plus a bunch of extra mech packs. If I do that, do I get the opportunity to sell back the custom CHR from the 2nd Star Colonel before the pledge manager closes (which would let me get 2x Star Colonel on my existing funds) or do I pay the extra and then get a credit for the 2nd custom character when the pledge manager is open for wave 2?
I was charged immediately for changes to my order when I finished and shut my PM. Not on the 9th if thats what your asking.
As shivanwurm stated, CrowdOx charges you for anything extra the moment you close the Pledge Manager down. No idea what happens if you refrain from closing it manually before the Pledge Managers shuts down for Wave 1.
The second Star Colonel will only get its survey after Wave 1 has locked in, so you can use the credit when the Pledge Manager reopens for Wave 2, but not before.
I was meaning when I finished and shut my PM. Sorry I wasn't clear.
Toad suits are over two meters tall and P-Hawk is maybe twelve meters tall, so the scale is not out whack.
BattleMechs—the most powerful ground-based war machines ever built—dominate the battlefields of the thirty first century. These huge, humanoid vehicles stand eight to fourteen meters tall and weigh as much as 100 tons.
I think the next time I play an early Invasion game, I'm going to force all conventional units to make a morale check the first time they get within three hexes of a Toad Point - they're having to deal with those things at eye level. :o
Yeah it's really easy to imagine a Toad being about the size of, say, an NFL lineman. That is to say, big but still human sized.
They're not. Even a small Elemental is going to tower 8+ feet tall and move like an Olympic sprinter suited up. A large Elemental will destroy your house's ceilings just by walking around. They're ****** terrifying.
It's either that, or even by the standards of existing descriptions that Toad is frigging HUGE. :o
Khan Santin West was a 'short' Elemental IIRC . . . 7.5 meters?
And that back pain would be why he doesn't have a bloodname. The square-cube law gets them in the end...He apparently lost three successive bloodright trials in the final round. One suspects that his opponents all chose augmented. Or perhaps gymnastics. ;D
Wasn't he supposed to be strong enough to damage mech armor with his bare hands?If so, it’s not in the FM:WC bit. That does have the line about him wrestling other elementals when they’re armored and he isn’t, and calls him the strongest man in clan Ghost Bear, so...maybe?
Hell, Elementals outside their suits are over two meters tall.
I guess a regular car trip would be out of the question.
Interesting point . . . are Elementals issued special boots when they are out of the suits? Bluntly, their boot tread would be at least the width of a truck tire if not a semi!
An elemental travelling in economy class must really embrace the suck.
Will any of these be at any cons in the coming year?
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An elemental travelling in economy class must really embrace the suck.Extra-large special Elemental seats in CIC are mentioned for at least one Clan JumpShip.
I would like to repeat mythat's actually a nice idea, never know what to do with all these posters and most just stay in the box.demandshameless beggingrequest for high res digital versions of these posters, or hell, any of all this awesome imagery we've been getting.
I bought all the posters, but honestly it's unlikely I'll every find a place to hang them. I'd love to be able to print out and frame a nice 8x10.
An elemental travelling in economy class must really embrace the suck.Heh... have you seen Brian Shaw's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXtWu31MZUQ) of trying to fit (he gets on the plane about 2 minutes in)? He's "merely" 6' 8" and 440 pounds... ^-^
I think it's How Heavy Are The Dumbells You're Lifting?
An elemental travelling in economy class must really embrace the suck.
I guess a regular car trip would be out of the question.They sit in the bed of a truck. If a cop tries to pull them over, they issue a trial of refusal against the ticket.
They sit in the bed of a truck. If a cop tries to pull them over, they issue a trial of refusal against the ticket."You can give me the ticket if you can pull me over"?
They sit in the bed of a truck. If a cop tries to pull them over, they issue a trial of refusal against the ticket.
Getting the canon character credit after the 2/9 PM closing date has made things a little weird, since I would've used that money towards Wave 1 stuff. I'm shuffling things around, canceling a couple of larger Wave 2 items which I'll add when the PM reopens, and now I have a credit in my account. The PM calls it, "Extra donated to project." It'll still be there when the PM reopens, right?
They sit in the bed of a truck. If a cop tries to pull them over, they issue a trial of refusal against the ticket.
And I can't believe they gave the Wolverine 'mech to Kurita and not Marik. I thought the Dragon had a redesigned image?
Dang it... now that they've shown us the backs of the coins, I may have to re-open my pledge manager...
And I can't believe they gave the Wolverine 'mech to Kurita and not Marik. I thought the Dragon had a redesigned image?
And I can't believe they gave the Wolverine 'mech to Kurita and not Marik. I thought the Dragon had a redesigned image?
I've decided to stick with my Davion coin... Riflemen DO look cool... :)and it's the first Davion faction item where the logo really works with the chosen implementation - so that's a plus. ;)
How would it have a redesigned image, but no art? ???
EDIT: Clicked the wrong emoji somehow...
Ah, rog... I always thought it looked ok, and wasn't unseen...
The Wolverine was on the cover of Combat Manual: Kurita and that's the most recent Kurita product, so the Wolverine seems like a good call.Good point. :thumbsup:
The Wolverine has a long history as a Combine favorite.
What surprises me is that the Lyran Commonwealth got the Griffon instead of the Zeus.
There is even a Steiner variant of the Griffin, The GRF-1S. How do people forget how much the Lyrans love the Griffin?
There is even a Steiner variant of the Griffin, The GRF-1S. How do people forget how much the Lyrans love the Griffin?The thing that always gets me about the GRF-1S is that it’s one of the few Griffins that isn’t a firesupport design. When I think Griffin I think “stay back and shoot”, and then I remember that Steiner Griffins have a LL and a pair of MLs, and only an LRM-5. Weirdos.
I'm well aware that the Griffon is a popular Steiner mech- I've got three of them painted in Steiner colors.
It's just not iconic the way the Zeus is.
The Archon’s throne is traditionally flanked by a pair of Royal Guard Griffins (tall ceilings, that throne room)Well and truly. They were replaced at some point by a Fafnir and another Mech that I've forgotten.
Well and truly. They were replaced at some point by a Fafnir and another Mech that I've forgotten.
The most bizarre stereotype in BattleTech is that Steiner is all Assaults all the time, when the reality is that they have arguably one of the best Medium corps in the setting.You mean battle armor?
Got paint?
Lol... :P
TT
So with crowdox another $1,442142 has been added
So with crowdox another $1,442142 has been addedthat is either a very low or a very large number ;)
I'm sure he just missed the second comma of $1,442,142...
I'm sure he just missed the second comma of $1,442,142...I don't know, ~370000 mechs is either excessive or just enough to start your own little empire. :)
So with crowdox another $1,442,142 has been added
Where did you get that number? If I open up CrowdOx, it says $ 2,909,739. For your number, there would have to be a 3 in front.
Good gravy that's a lot.
https://crowdox.com/projects
Shows what kickstarter made and beside it what crowd ox has made. It is listed with the other games
Holy crap!
At first glance it seems like campaigns that made less money can almost double their income on CrowdOx, but when it comes to sheer $s, BattleTech still kicks all their butts.
Kickstarter's main drawback is how short campaigns have to be...
Kickstarter's main drawback is how short campaigns have to be...
I saw the references to the Mercenary-themed future plans that were “spoiled already” (or thereabouts). Where was that spoiled? It was news to me in the last update...
It's the 3S and not the 5S?
Big gun in the arm. Definitely an 3s, the 5 has the 3 biggies in the torso.
I think this is a good thing. The -7s and -9s are both laid out closer to the -3s and superior to the -5s.
Notable, the Grasshopper has five missile ports and side torso guns, so it's either civil war era or introtech. so it looks like all the inner sphere stuff is introtech variants unless it can't be (Nightstar, axeman)
It definitely looks good, despite a gun/fist ratio that disqualifies it from being a real Banshee.
Big gun in the arm. Definitely an 3s, the 5 has the 3 biggies in the torso.
I think this is a good thing. The -7s and -9s are both laid out closer to the -3s and superior to the -5s.
Notable, the Grasshopper has five missile ports and side torso guns, so it's either civil war era or introtech. so it looks like all the inner sphere stuff is introtech variants unless it can't be (Nightstar, axeman)
I wasn't doubting you, I was just surprised that they weren't giving us the Invasion-Era Banshee in the Invasion-Era set.
BNC-3S and BNC-5S are the same mini.Doesn't 5S have both hands while 3S replaces one hand with a PPC?
There's never been a separate BNC-5S mini?
The 3S mini was verboten after the lawsuit because the gun arm was from the marauder
Wasn't it from the Warhammer?
Wasn't it from the Warhammer?
BNC-3S and BNC-5S are the same mini.
So when I did my PM I just picked mech packs until I was out of options. I just remembered that as a galaxy commander I was supposed to get double of everything I picked but there was a stretch goal that let us chose single packs instead. Was there an option I was supposed to chose in the PM for that, or did they just double the number of times I had to chose my packs?the 18 mech box selections were the 2x9 for the GC, so you are fine.
So when I did my PM I just picked mech packs until I was out of options. I just remembered that as a galaxy commander I was supposed to get double of everything I picked but there was a stretch goal that let us chose single packs instead. Was there an option I was supposed to chose in the PM for that, or did they just double the number of times I had to chose my packs?
So for those who have been asking . . .
Speck just announced the 2020 1st Quarter IWM new releases will be . . .
Locust 1V
Griffin 1N
Catapult C1
So with the Fire Star art released . . . is the Cougar there any different than the new art/mini released recently?Very small detail, it's the mini that will make the difference as the current is mini looses some the detail that made the Cougar look sharp. Same with the Nova Cat.
*squints* Is that the Gargoyle between Timber Wolves and Executioner?
My primary disappointment is the offset dorsal gun on the Marauder II. Alas.
*squints* Is that the Gargoyle between Timber Wolves and Executioner?
Missing a Catapult - the Ral Partha Europe K2. Long-leg version with a pair of Warhammer-style PPCs.
lol, you sort of need to be specific on what you think was fixed.
I’m pleased that’s the only one I missed. I’d never even heard of this one
Uh, the KS page implies one gets both the pack 1 and 2 at Star Commander level? Yet the pledge manager has them as choice? Am i missing something?
You get two packs, but you can choose whether you get one of each or double up on one.At Star Commander level the PM offers only a choice for one.
At Star Commander level the PM offers only a choice for one.
It seems i may end up upgrading to Star Captain though (would allow me to get both card packs). There's a small discount for the Star Packs and i'd get the Tukayyid Map Pack. Pretty good deal all in all.
Still need to decide whether to get Clan Wolf or FedCom coin and dice though... the former would be more appropriate for the KS, the latter are kind of a my thing in general.
My apologies, I misread your pledge level.No worries. I did end up upgrading.
Please please make some of them multi-part model type kits.I read that as "multi-party" and wondered that wouldn't a model that requires many people to assemble be something you probably want to avoid.
I read that as "multi-party"...
The chest-mounted was introduced in TRO3050 with the AS7-K.Introduced via the miniature prior to TRO3050.
The 5-tube LRM 20 on the hip has been a fluff thing dating back to the original TRO3025.
"Unable to fit a full twenty-tube system on the 'Mech, the FarFire instead launches the missiles in waves of five over the course of ten seconds and carries two tons of reloads for twelve such salvos"
The chest-mounted was introduced in TRO3050 with the AS7-K.
I for one like the original placement more
After the mini, few artists used the original weapon placement. Think the 4th Edition box was the last time I saw it depicted in the art, both on the box art and a small color hangar shot within the book. You can find the later on Steam powered Mike's Deviant Art gallery.
...but that still leaves you with the hip launcher with the extra hole.It cuts off pretty easily. That's how I made the Beginner Set version for IWM.
It always mildly irritated me the mini of the Atlas never matched the stats. And here i was hoping for a SL variant that actually split the launcher and maybe downgraded the autocannon so both could fit in the same torso. Sure you can putty out the torso holes and leave 6 on the appropriate side, but that still leaves you with the hip launcher with the extra hole.
I'm personally a bit annoyed at myself for wanting to upgrade my pledge to late. I decided I wanted to last night and I didn't realize that once you finalized the first time you couldn't go back in to change it to a higher tier. Oh well I'll still get a bunch of good stuff!
outside of the nuSeen, classic 3025 units were largely (completely?) left out of TRO: CI. i assume this will be rectified in the (probably) forthcoming RS: Clan InvasionBut they're all covered in TRO: Succession Wars, right? ???
You could still try to contact CGL via the KS message system and get yourself upgraded. The Kickstarter Facebook group also has a post to help with that.
I actually sent a message through Kickstarter this morning when I realized to see if they could unlock it. I haven't heard from them. I figured it would be a long shot what with it being the weekend and all.
I didn't know there was a Kickstarter Facebook group for it. I guess I'll try sending them a message through there as well. Thanks for the help!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/471100573465414/about/
I know the pledge manager closes soon, but is there a deadline for getting canon character information submitted?
I hadn't seen the email come in notifying me of it, until I realized I should have seen it by now and had not. Searched for and found it, but I don't really have the photo references I would like ready yet.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/471100573465414/about/
I know the pledge manager closes soon, but is there a deadline for getting canon character information submitted?
I hadn't seen the email come in notifying me of it, until I realized I should have seen it by now and had not. Searched for and found it, but I don't really have the photo references I would like ready yet.
I know the pledge manager closes soon, but is there a deadline for getting canon character information submitted?
I hadn't seen the email come in notifying me of it, until I realized I should have seen it by now and had not. Searched for and found it, but I don't really have the photo references I would like ready yet.
Not that group is by and for fans. There may be a helpful post from a
fan explaining something, but the group itself is not a way to communicate with CGL for the Kickstarter.
David Anthony Vivas is keeping contact with CGL when issues arise
Sounds like the updates are working as intended... ^-^
Yes, I’m not saying there isn’t useful information there. I’m saying don’t go there expecting CGL to answer there.
David Anthony Vivas is not CGL. He’s on the Discord for Khans I believe, so he’s relaying information from there. (Again, useful). But he can’t change your pledge level, unlock your pledge, or anything else that requires action from CGL for your account.
Not entirely happy so far, but that is only because I didn't have more money to spend! ;D
There isn't exactly a deadline. But if you want your character to show up in the pilot cards for the KS, I don't know if you aren't past the point of no return or if that is reached today ...
i'm sure they'll be drawing from this character well for years. if you've got a good concept, they'll find a spot for it eventually
Ended up switching coin and dice to Jade Falcons after all. The FedCom coin is great looking but this is a Clan KS...
The fact the KS exclusive box cover depicts Delta Galaxy (i think?) was quite a big deal in this. Not to mention a couple of paint schemes i've got in mind feel like they fit the Jade Falcons better.
Further, though i'm not a fan of Grendel, MUL indicates it is found among Falcon forces (but not Wolf), so i figured i might as well learn to live with it, and that is easier with appropriate faction.
So has anyone figured out the bare minimum number of mechs to be made? I think i have 180 mechs.
assuming most pledges average a mini every $5 roughly
I was going with Fedcom but I just didnt get the feels for the logo to grab the shirt etc. ended up switching to Comstar for shirt , pin and patch.
I grabbed several extra of the coins once i saw them. If only i could afford the entire set.
i'm surprised they didn't have a buyback option for the dropship
At some point, you simply have to stop with all the buybacks. If you can get credit for everything, you can get more credit than the actual pledge cost. They had to draw the line somewhere.
Sure, but you’re looking at distributing more than have potentially ever been produced
Which is probably true for almost all items in the KS.
They have never before produced that Mani miniatures, or dice, or shirts or anything ... New territory, alln9fnit.
The drinking started between the first & second sentences?
Sure, but you’re looking at distributing more than have potentially ever been produced
Which is probably true for almost all items in the KS.
They have never before produced that Mani miniatures, or dice, or shirts or anything ... New territory, alln9fnit.
all produced by subcontractors accustomed to this level of scale (except the mechs maybe, but that's why we're here in the first place).
i'm not going to belabor the point any further as it was more an idle question than anything
Autocorrect on the phone and two small children running around, trying to kill each other, actually. Didn't really look what I was typing ;D
It's a valid point, though. But I think Scotty is right and I hope IWM used the time to start pre production.
I'd love to know which 'Mech choices were the second most popular after the Urbie.
I made my selections with an eye towards painting up the rosters from the old FASA scenario packs, so Phoenix Hawks, Archers, Marauders, Wasps and Stingers were in heavy demand.
Being wave 1 I would think the Marauder and Warhammer packs get the largest print followed by the Crusader.
Yeah, I agree . . . the Warhammer & Marauder boxes by far . . . IF the Timber Wolf had been in a star box instead of the CI Box it might have given them a run. The Heavy Striker Star I would expect to be the most popular Clan box- Gargoyle (true Wolf fans), Hellbringer (crazy Falcons), Mad Dog (Bears & Jags), Ice Ferret and Viper- with the two heavies being the biggest draw and the Mad Dog having a lot of video game and MWDA exposure.
So on the pledge manager I upped my pledge to Star Colonel level. I should be getting one of the character surveys yes? But I have not yet gotten one, whom should I contact about this?
I'd love to know which 'Mech choices were the second most popular after the Urbie.
I'm thinking the Heavy Star might do the best with the Behemoth, Supernova and Warhammer, Marauder and Hunchback IICs. :drool:
Noticed the other day that they went with Behemoth. What happened to Stone Rhino?Uh, it is the same mech, just different name?
Every other Clan mech is listed under its Inner Sphere reporting name, why shouldn't the Behemoth be?Actually, if we're talking about Star packs, they use Clan names. Making Behemoth odd one out.
Uh, it is the same mech, just different name?
Actually, if we're talking about Star packs, they use Clan names. Making Behemoth odd one out.
Every other Clan mech is listed under its Inner Sphere reporting name, why shouldn't the Behemoth be?
Never got my survey, I'll wait a few days before contacting them.
Canon Character or Pledge Manager survey?
Only got my confirmation email, but I'm not the brightest crayon color in the box and the 3 questions I answered while confirming my pledge was the manager survey?
What you see in this update was the Pledge Manager: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/450703636/battletech-clan-invasion/posts/2682192Aaah, ok ^_^.
It is closed by now.
There was an additional survey where you could enter information about your canon character or get credit instead of using it.
I'm probably in the minority here, but rather than increasing the size of some of the lapel pins by 20%, I'd rather see the rest shrunk by 20%.Now I am thinking about chest plates.
I'm probably in the minority here, but rather than increasing the size of some of the lapel pins by 20%, I'd rather see the rest shrunk by 20%.
Problem is we do not have anything for scale in the picture.Well, they are layed out on a hexmap.
Well, they are layed out on a hexmap.
That's all we've received so far.I thought there were 2 that were sent out during the campaing?
I'm probably in the minority here, but rather than increasing the size of some of the lapel pins by 20%, I'd rather see the rest shrunk by 20%.I actually agree with you. I would usually associate smaller pins with the classic lapel pin, an inch in diameter or so.
I actually agree with you. I would usually associate smaller pins with the classic lapel pin, an inch in diameter or so.
The size shown would be more those big button pins.
that said if you stick it to your bag or backpack, larger is usually better - although the patches already fill that bill.
Again, we do not have any coins to give a sense of scale.example measurements based on standard hex maps:
Is anyone here actually planning to wear them as actual lapel pins?
Didn't think so.
Again, we do not have any coins to give a sense of scale.
Is anyone here actually planning to wear them as actual lapel pins?
Didn't think so.
Again, we do not have any coins to give a sense of scale.
I’ll be honest, I wouldn’t have worn them as lapel pins even if they were the right size.to be honest, the latter case is probably the more common use case for those anyway. :)
But yes, they’re looking more like backpack buttons at this scale.
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to be honest, the latter case is probably the more common use case for those anyway. :)
It's appears that CGL has chosen a different manufacturer than the one they used to make the miniatures in the Beginner and GoAC box sets to make the Kickstarter minis.
From Kickstarter Update #83: "Then in early January, we heard the bad news. The current tooling won’t give you the detail level we promised. We are going to upgrade your tooling, at our expense, but we won’t finish until after Chinese New Year. It was another week, around January 15th, when we found out how long after CNY. Everything will be ready to ship on April 20th!"
If they had used the same manufacturer, this quality issue (at least) would likely have never happened. They already have a manufacturer that can produce miniatures of the quality in the current box sets. They are on 4th and 3rd printing, respectively, of the Beginner box set and GoAC as it is.
It would have been nice for CGL to address this. My assumption was that the Kickstarter miniatures would essentially match the quality and look of the existing box set miniatures. Now, I'm not so sure.
How do you get that from the ks message??
My read is he's drawing inferences that aren't good. You back enough kickstarters, you run into the most insane theories in the comments.
edit - I've put a couple hundred into failed 'starters. I understand the frustration.
That's true of the internet in general.while that is true, ks has a unfortunate "advantage" in this regard.
It's appears that CGL has chosen a different manufacturer than the one they used to make the miniatures in the Beginner and GoAC box sets to make the Kickstarter minis.
From Kickstarter Update #83: "Then in early January, we heard the bad news. The current tooling won’t give you the detail level we promised. We are going to upgrade your tooling, at our expense, but we won’t finish until after Chinese New Year. It was another week, around January 15th, when we found out how long after CNY. Everything will be ready to ship on April 20th!"
If they had used the same manufacturer, this quality issue (at least) would likely have never happened. They already have a manufacturer that can produce miniatures of the quality in the current box sets. They are on 4th and 3rd printing, respectively, of the Beginner box set and GoAC as it is.
It would have been nice for CGL to address this. My assumption was that the Kickstarter miniatures would essentially match the quality and look of the existing box set miniatures. Now, I'm not so sure.
Plog does excellent work if you're willing to throw money his way. He did a few Goblin variants for me, and a Mark VII landing craft too!
Y'know, with all the new art from the kickstarter, and all the 'Mechs being reimagined, do we know how many would be needed to still do to make an all new version of TRO: Clan Invasion with the new art? Obviously all the Omnis are clear, what's left for the secondline/IS mechs?
Shame we couldn't get the vehicles from 3026/3039 redone as well...
I would like to see the Mark VIIAs requested: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50256.msg1307733#msg1307733
As requested: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=50256.msg1307733#msg1307733
Enjoy!
I like itThanks! Plog did really excellent work with that one.
People, I don't remember the link to access the KS online documents. Can you share it with me?
Thanks
I think the codes include only Proliferation Cycle. Or have i never received other stuff?the links from the last ks message still work, should be from the 23rd August.
I remember during the campaign itself, CGL had a Google Drive folder or some such for digital rewards for backers (eg some wallpapers, digital fiction) but... don't think it is up anymore?
the links from the last ks message still work, should be from the 23rd August.Woo, it works, and it has the links they said they'd share (eg newer poster wallpapers) but never emailed otherwise.
at some point they mentioned that there will be some alternate way to access/provide the stuff, but I don't know what the state on that is.
maybe now with a closed PM they get around to it.
We have emailed primary canon character surveys to all backers at SC and above. We have also emailed "secondary/subsequent character surveys to all at SC and above in case they pick dup multiple SC bundles.In case you are waiting for survey emails on extra pledge bundles, you may want to check via the KS DM system.
the last item was to send out to everyone who has a canon Character get add-on. I think most if not all of them have been emailed.
If you didn't get an email, one of three things may have happened. 1) your spam filter caught it. 2) you may not busing the email listed on Crowdox. 3) Maskirovka!
The best solution for any of the above is to DM us using he Kickstarter system and we will hand you a new link!
This was posted as a comment on the ks page:In case you are waiting for survey emails on extra pledge bundles, you may want to check via the KS DM system.
That include people who uped their pledge? I don’t want to cut in line if my wave of surveys hasn’t meant to be sent out yet.yes, by that comment, the only char surveys that should be ongoing are the explicit char buy options. Everything else should be through.
I' am little concern about what going on in China at the moment with Corona Virus. I know it hurting China in the pocket book right now. I have been getting minis from Kids Logic which is based out of Hong Kong for last 4 to 5 months now. The latest new from them is that everyone working from home at the moment. So the question is how much of a delay are we looking at because of the Virus out break? I know that Kids Logic said that there going to be some delay in shipping because there no one in the warehouse to do the packing and shipping. Gov ordered to stay home. So that problem right now. China is getting hit hard here and they losing a lot money in the process. I hope thing get better of over there.
That include people who uped their pledge? I don’t want to cut in line if my wave of surveys hasn’t meant to be sent out yet.I got mine.
I' am little concern about what going on in China at the moment with Corona Virus. I know it hurting China in the pocket book right now. I have been getting minis from Kids Logic which is based out of Hong Kong for last 4 to 5 months now. The latest new from them is that everyone working from home at the moment. So the question is how much of a delay are we looking at because of the Virus out break? I know that Kids Logic said that there going to be some delay in shipping because there no one in the warehouse to do the packing and shipping. Gov ordered to stay home. So that problem right now. China is getting hit hard here and they losing a lot money in the process. I hope thing get better of over there.
Hahaha, survey was going fine till it asked for character name and I suddenly realized I had put no real thought into this. 😅😅
Ok what’s the correct contact link I need to use to get ahold of Catalyst for this issue then.
We got us a Hatchetman!
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To be perfectly honest, if it comes down to a choice where one option is people not dying, I'll pick the people not dying. My minis can wait.
good thing he's fictional
And buggier than Windows XP ;D
Vista . . .
PM them through Kickstarter; just reply to their early PMs that they used to send out Dropbox links for digital content.And for those of us who bought in through CrowdOx?
And for those of us who bought in through CrowdOx?the contact option on the kickstarter page should still work. that DM system is the main contact for the ks and anything related to it.
Yeah, looks like a hinge to allow it to swing under the arm and out of the way when the pilot wants to use the hand for other purposes.
Yeah, looks like a hinge to allow it to swing under the arm and out of the way when the pilot wants to use the hand for other purposes.
XP? I am sure you could have picked a worse one . . . 95, Vista . . .
Is that nod to the HBS Battletech game Hatchetman? It's similar setup.
An improvement over the original to be sure, but I'm not too excited about this one. Can't quite put my finger on what's wrong. Too lanky?
HBS did a great job on theirs, but I've never been a fan of the retractable hatchet.
An improvement over the original to be sure, but I'm not too excited about this one. Can't quite put my finger on what's wrong. Too lanky?The rounded front of the cockpit and teardrop side windows don't work for me. Getting rid of the hinge under the hatchet will be easy. Fixing the cockpit a little less easy.
Yeah... I'm not sure why they felt compelled to mess with the head. The Hatchetman was never unseen...
Is it the cockpit design? That threw me off at first.
I'm thinking the hinge and other stuff under the forearm is to show that the hatchet is a component mounted to the arm, not something merely carried as most existing art suggests.
I always wondered what that ball was supposed to be.
there are just so many redesigns now i'm numb to the process. i'm usually like "yup! better than it was! print the minis!"Sorta there as well, but looking forward to putting many of these up against their old sculpts to see the improvement first hand. 8)
I'm thinking the hinge and other stuff under the forearm is to show that the hatchet is a component mounted to the arm, not something merely carried as most existing art suggests.
Is it the cockpit design? That threw me off at first.
Sarna says something about anti-aircraft targeting. Because nothing says aircraft hunter like an AC10 and a hatchet.
Did anyone get the email with the redemption code for the new short story, or did the CrowdOx system for that just not work as expected?Redemption and Malice (PDF)?
Redemption and Malice (PDF)?
That was just a download link, not a code.
Did anyone get the email with the redemption code for the new short story, or did the CrowdOx system for that just not work as expected?
Yeah, Redemption and Malice.I got a "getting your links" email (after modifying my pledge for Nova Cat dice and coin, despite the thing being supposedly locked), and that email included redemption codes for Proliferation Cycle from CGL store and a link to Redemption and Malice PDF (downloaded via Crowdox judging by the link).
I'm trying to figure out how I'm suppose to access it, without much success. Where did the link come from?
I got a "getting your links" email (after modifying my pledge for Nova Cat dice and coin, despite the thing being supposedly locked), and that email included redemption codes for Proliferation Cycle from CGL store and a link to Redemption and Malice PDF (downloaded via Crowdox judging by the link).
i have the "Getting your files" crowdox email from november so it only includes the codes for the proliferation cycle (obviously Redemption and Malice was added later). unfortunately there are no other emails or messages with access to that fiction for me
What day did this email go out, and who is the sender?I got it on monday-tuesday night (timezones...).
I checked my inbox, trash and spam folders and I'm not seeing it.
How do you switch the address on file for shipping. I'm moving and don't want my kickstarter stuff lost in the mail.You mean on Pledge Manager? Pretty sure you can open it still and modify the address page.
How do you switch the address on file for shipping. I'm moving and don't want my kickstarter stuff lost in the mail.
CI Box:
Executioner
Timber Wolf
Nova
Grendel
Adder
Command Star:
Dire Wolf
Summoner
Stormcrow
Shadow Cat
Mist Lynx
Heavy Striker Star:
Gargoyle
Hellbringer
Mad Dog
Ice Ferret
ViperWhat exactly can the Salvage Boxes contain?
IIRC it was any Wave 1 Clan Omni Mech which would mean:Code: [Select]CI Box:
Executioner
Timber Wolf
Nova
Grendel
Adder
Command Star:
Dire Wolf
Summoner
Stormcrow
Shadow Cat
Mist Lynx
Heavy Striker Star:
Gargoyle
Hellbringer
Mad Dog
Ice Ferret
Viper
But i'm not 100% sure.
I think that’s right, but if you open up your crowdox pledge manager it’ll show what comes in the boxes if you have a level that includes them.Duh, you're right, forgot that.
Did they get up to the Clan Fire Star for wave 1? I seem to remember it being 3 clan packs and 2 IS packs able to make the production cut off deadline.Pretty sure it didn't make the cut, IIRC Pledge Manager offered only Command and Heavy Striker for Wave 1.
It appears the new fiction was added to the crowdox pledge confirmation email after a specific date with no other links provided
Does anyone else anticipate an issue with the burnt hex locations and black hex outlines? The map looks cool, but at least from the image on my screen I can hardly see the hexes. Maybe transition to light grey or white in that area.
What exactly can the Salvage Boxes contain?
IIRC it was any Wave 1 Clan Omni Mech which would mean:Code: [Select]CI Box:
Executioner
Timber Wolf
Nova
Grendel
Adder
Command Star:
Dire Wolf
Summoner
Stormcrow
Shadow Cat
Mist Lynx
Heavy Striker Star:
Gargoyle
Hellbringer
Mad Dog
Ice Ferret
Viper
But i'm not 100% sure.
Same here, sort of. Though i don't think i'd be lucky enough to get them (i'm getting only two salvage boxes) even if they were.
I'm disappointed that neither the Warhawk or Kit Fox is going to be in salvage boxes
While the map looks great. I wouldn't use it. To many rolls for to keep up with the fire spreading it is going to slow the game down to a halt
I'm hoping they learned that lesson from the last set of maps.
Nothing forces one to use fire.
I intend to use it and just ignore the rules for spreading.I think the fire rules also allow for easy effort reduction rule variants that are somewhere in between, e.g., slow speed (only roll for spreading every 2nd or 3rd round), pick a predefined direction with little fuel and few rolls, or roll en bloc for whole fire fronts reducing the total number of rolls.
There's simplified fire and smoke in the BMM that is easier to deal with.BMM? BattleMech Manual? I thought for second you said Battech Manual. xp
:through clenched teeth:: Box CanyonYou okay? Your not Jade Falcon are you? :-X
Other than the fact than they have it on the map rather you want to use it or not. ;)Judging by the preview pics, it doesn't say "fire" on the hexes, it i just a visual.
I wish I could say I am shocked that the Bears fell for that trap in the first place, but Clan culture dictates that they fall for obvious traps in combat against the Inner Sphere. I imagine the conversation when deciding to use the trails went a little something like this:
Galaxy Commander: "Look! Premade trails for us to use in order to travel through this forest such that we may honorably fight our enemy! Convenience is with us today, brothers and sisters!"
Literally anyone with competence: "Don't you think this might be a trap set by Comstar? Literally everywhere the other Clans have gone have been booby trapped, leading to just outright slaughter. Including the situation that our main force is in right now, which is the entire reason we are being called to service."
Galaxy Commander: "Nonsense! Now, forward to glory!" -minutes later- "It's a trap! Does their deception know no end?!?!"
For simplicity's sake, just assume all the hexes on the map are already on fire.Time saver
Especially the water hexes.
I think the fire rules also allow for easy effort reduction rule variants that are somewhere in between, e.g., slow speed (only roll for spreading every 2nd or 3rd round), pick a predefined direction with little fuel and few rolls, or roll en bloc for whole fire fronts reducing the total number of rolls.
Not even going that far. Hexes with fire on them are on fire and that's it. 8) Maybe say the brown hexes have smoke.sure that is one end of the scale. The point is that you can easily define and choose an almost arbitrary degree of extra effort between static fire and full fire spreading rules that fits how much time you want to invest in it in a game. Since, it represents a straight forward external influence (even if it may involve a lot of dice rolls) the effects of any variations are easily predictable and players should be able to agree on a variant without too many concerns on balance impact or similar.
There's simplified fire and smoke in the BMM that is easier to deal with.
...Question 7...Question 8...Maybe writing more than the numbers - say, the actual questions - would get you more answers. I - as very possible most others - don't have an eidetic memory, and so I've no frakking idea about what you're asking.
Question 7 should probably be a drop down with two options, I shouldn't need to say what they are,
and for Question 8, how much am I supposed to put into? The question itself suggests a single world, or maybe only a few, but the size of the text box says brief description to me.
Has anyone gotten the email for the latest Kickstarter fiction from Blaine?
The slow weekend left me some time to look at camo specs for the minis I realistically don’t expect for 6-12 months.
Been mighty quiet you guys at CGL; we can has update?Non-kickstarter update? Because they're going nuts with the updates over there.
Non-kickstarter update? Because they're going nuts with the updates over there.That’s why we’re surprised that they didn’t post one on Friday (or Saturday). With the PM closing any day around now, it’d be a good time for one.
That’s why we’re surprised that they didn’t post one on Friday (or Saturday). With the PM closing any day around now, it’d be a good time for one.just a side note, I would be careful with treating the PM as anything but closed since the 2/9/2020. While you may or may not still access it, I wouldn't necessarily rely on any changes after that day to make it into wave1.
I want to keep checking the mailbox for crazy plastic goodness.
Blaine just dropped a rather interesting bit of info on Facebook.
Not all of us do Facebook. Care to share?
Blaine just dropped a rather interesting bit of info on Facebook.
Blaine just dropped a rather interesting bit of info on Facebook.
He's writing a book that will be released next GenCon (2021) and is looking for folks to submit names to be used in the book. He can't even say what the title is.
He's writing a book that will be released next GenCon (2021) and is looking for folks to submit names to be used in the book. He can't even say what the title is.
Um, you sure? 'Cause the only post about names I can see is from 2018, and Blaine specifically said "THIS IS CLOSED. Stop sending me names!" *looks at post* 7 hours ago.
Huh, guess I should have looked at the date....
Love the MAD-II myself.
Have we seen that Orion art before? With that said, I like it a lot b/c it DOES look like the primitive with some very clear differences.
I think the MAD II definitely looks better than the Phoenix version . . . have we seen a Marauder IIC at all?
From update #91
"We should have also fixed the problem with the free story we were giving out! You should see it rolling out in the next day or so because sending it to 13000 people seems to bog down the system ha ha."
It seems like There are so many of us we keep breaking things :P
The Orion art is actually pretty old in the scheme of this. The cockpit keeps getting revised - or at least that's what comments made on Scroggins' Patreon seem to imply whenever the Orion comes up.
Mad IIC art has also been seen on Patreon, but not publicly yet, to my knowledge.
Have we seen that Orion art before? With that said, I like it a lot b/c it DOES look like the primitive with some very clear differences.
I think the MAD II definitely looks better than the Phoenix version . . . have we seen a Marauder IIC at all?
As Crackerb0x said, the Orion’s changed since this sketch was done and it sounds like it’s going to change again. One of the powers that be wants it to look more old school. Scroggins revised the cockpit to have a central pillar - imagine IWM’s ON1-M but with sharp angles instead of curves. He said the same power-that-be still isn’t happy. I hope he isn’t forced to go to a more vertical cockpit like bay windows on the side of a house.I hope not, the current one looks good...
Now THAT is an Atlas.
He's a thicc boi. I like it, especially as it inherited the yawning waist armor of the original that look so imposing.Five tubes but yeah, fires rapidly four times.
Remind me, the fluff is that the waist missile rack runs a set of four tubes front-to-back in a ripple fire (which gets the design aligned with the original art) and the new design is going to stick with that?
I generally like the Marauder II, except for the cockpit. It feels too exposed overall.Looks like the Supernova with the cockpit pushed forward. I don't like the broad shoulders and pushed-forward waist, nor do I like the more exposed cockpit (compared to the nuSeen Marauder). I wish it was a literally upsized nuSeen Marauder.
a) well, consistency is always good - but even more so for machine designsI disagree with this. There are BattleMechs designed centuries apart and in completely separated cultures. There shouldn't consistency in design between Inner Sphere and Clan machines or Star League and 3rd Succession War designs. TRO:2750 had consistency in design for that era: The golden age of the Star League. The designs had a 1950's vibe to them. Most notable are the fins on most of them. This transferred to the "lost" Star League designs introduced in the Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook. It made that era of designs unique, and a consistency across the entire line would lose this. You used to be able to tell a Clan OmniMech from an Inner Sphere BattleMech even if you had no idea what they were. From what I've seen of the redesigns, the flavor is being lost.
and the torso looks like a kid made it out of non-matching Lego bricks it had at it's disposal.
I'm not going to tell you your preferences are wrong or anything, but I kinda feel like the Orion always looked like it was made from mismatched parts.
Also, unpopular opinion, I thought the original Marauder II design as seen in the Wolf's Dragoons book was a little lazy. It was a Mad with some wings slapped on it. It it wasn't for the text stating it was also bigger, you could easily assume it was just a Mad-3R with a mech equivalent of a spoiler slapped on.It is literally a Marauder with a reinforced chassis--not a redesign. The whole point was to cut out most of the design process in order to speed up development.
It is literally a Marauder with a reinforced chassis--not a redesign.
The original MAD II had a bigger autocannon too (and it was pointed right at you), so I thought it was more than just wings...
I disagree with this. There are BattleMechs designed centuries apart and in completely separated cultures. There shouldn't consistency in design between Inner Sphere and Clan machines or Star League and 3rd Succession War designs. TRO:2750 had consistency in design for that era: The golden age of the Star League. The designs had a 1950's vibe to them. Most notable are the fins on most of them. This transferred to the "lost" Star League designs introduced in the Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook. It made that era of designs unique, and a consistency across the entire line would lose this. You used to be able to tell a Clan OmniMech from an Inner Sphere BattleMech even if you had no idea what they were. From what I've seen of the redesigns, the flavor is being lost.In theory I agree with you. In practice, "are these from the same game" does not sell mini boxes.
To be fair, the original Marauder II had a fake autocannon on the back and a large laser in a chin turret instead.Ah, right... mixed up versions in my head. Thanks for setting me straight! :thumbsup:
The large laser was in a chin turret?
I'm happy with the new look Marauder II, sure it could be a bit more Marauder-e but otherwise its fine. The original model was horrific. It was a Marauder with longer legs, so it stuck its ass out backwards, with dinky little wings strapped to the sides that ALWAYS fell off. And the mech ALWAYS fell over onto its ass because it was grossly imbalanced and even putting a 2p piece under it didn't help. As for the whole 'reinforced', bulking up the superstructure and internals to make it heavier would probably result in a bigger and different looking Mech.
you was one of the lucky ones :) Mine always fell over, same with the Catapult with its long boi legs.
The original model was horrific. It was a Marauder with longer legs, so it stuck its ass out backwards, with dinky little wings strapped to the sides that ALWAYS fell off.The legs were the exact same length as the Marauder. The only difference is thicker armor plates on a spot or two.
I disagree with this. There are BattleMechs designed centuries apart and in completely separated cultures. There shouldn't consistency in design between Inner Sphere and Clan machines or Star League and 3rd Succession War designs. TRO:2750 had consistency in design for that era: The golden age of the Star League. The designs had a 1950's vibe to them. Most notable are the fins on most of them. This transferred to the "lost" Star League designs introduced in the Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook. It made that era of designs unique, and a consistency across the entire line would lose this. You used to be able to tell a Clan OmniMech from an Inner Sphere BattleMech even if you had no idea what they were. From what I've seen of the redesigns, the flavor is being lost.
Yes and why it seemed like a xerox to me when I first saw it in TRO: 3050 and even more so when I found the original art from the Wolf Dragoons book.You don't like the original. Fair enough. Nobody is required to like them all. The changing from fitting the lore to not fitting brothers me.
This is why I don't like talking BT aesthetics, everyone has their own taste and I don't want to dunk on anyone persons preference but with so many pro-unseen on this forum, I though it was important to say some of us appreciate a squeal mech actually distinctive.There's nothing wrong with a discussion of tastes. I'm making my preference known, just like you.
It still screams Marauder but it doesn't look like someone just 3D printed a larger Mad-3R and that matters when you are trying to get knew players to the table.Problem is, it looks like someone modified a Supernova, not a Marauder. I brought this up on his Patreon and I got a, "Wait until you see what I do to the Supernova!"
I agree with this. You hit the nail right on the head with this.
I would also expand on this, now the designs look like they come from the same manufacturer. There were obvious similarities in design, but you could tell that they were designed years apart and by different companies. The Clans even lost their feel... being able to pack more things efficiently in a compact and sleek design. Now it's all just chonk for the sake of chonk.
In theory I agree with you. In practice, "are these from the same game" does not sell mini boxes.Judging by the popularity of the Clans to date, that sort of diversity does sell mini boxes. Especially with BattleTech prominently displayed on them.
(https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/f/fc/CCG_Mechwarrior_Black_Lanner.jpg?timestamp=20100626191935)The way its drawn, makes the Black Lanner smaller. Like he driving medium or light.
Which looks WAY better than the original design.
I will agree a bit . . . but there are also two outside factors. First, they are offering official designs for mini production one a LOT of designs that were put out by MWO . . . and while MWO images are not table top BT, it goes back to the recognition angle to for the sales synergy. I would imagine (b/c I do NOT KNOW) they have to balance what a design looks like 3 ways. They will be different than MWO designs but they have to be recognizable from the video game versions, the new designs should resemble the best parts of the art they are replacing, and to a lesser degree should show a path to the Phoenix art designs.
Look at fighter and MBT designs across national lines . . . they look a lot the same- form follows function.
The black lanner is a medium.Ok light, the guy's cockpit like Torso mounted way it done.
You pretty much made my point. Things are becoming way to similar.
Ok light, the guy's cockpit like Torso mounted way it done.It's a very well proportioned cockpit actually. And placed exactly where it should be for that style of body.
Since when? FF armor, EndoSteel, and XL engines get their benefits by being bulkier than standard materials. IS equivalents are even bulkier, but a XL engine takes up 6 more crits, the armor & structure each take 7 . . .
If the clan designs looked sleek, it would help. They shouldn't be chunky like spheroid designs.i actually think the opposite. the clans, being planned economies and semi-pragmatists in terms of military designs, should probably have blockier and chunkier designs. aesthetics for the sake of aesthetics are waste, and the clans are supposed to abhor waste. (protomechs being stylized monsters being a good example of how far most clans have fallen from their professed ideals)
You answered your own question. Clan tech takes up less space and weight than Inner Sphere tech. It's more refined. Their XL engine, FF, and ES, is much better than the Star League counterpart. Real world example: Today I provided phone assistance to someone who replaced an old alarm switch that was 3 times the size of the new switch. They do the same thing, only one is far less bulky. You could say the same for a PC processor of the 80's compared with one from the 90's. This is how I see Clan tech, and I don't see the new designs accomplishing this.that comparison only works so far.
...but there's also something to be said for having a similar esthetic across one game line.With over 1000 designs out there I would say, "boring".
i actually think the opposite. the clans, being planned economies and semi-pragmatists in terms of military designs, should probably have blockier and chunkier designs. aesthetics for the sake of aesthetics are waste, and the clans are supposed to abhor waste.
“Scale”
Looking at the big line-up of designs, I'm inclined to believe that there's a consistent scale, and that it was achieved with the really convenient "internal volume" figure available in most, if not all, 3D modelling programs.
Did we ever get all 5 scenarios from the Kickstarter?
Or have i just forgotten to either download them or maybe misplace my files? I can only find one scenario, "Diminishing Returns".
Looking at the big line-up of designs, I'm inclined to believe that there's a consistent scale, and that it was achieved with the really convenient "internal volume" figure available in most, if not all, 3D modelling programs.
As far as I know, only the one has been released. I've written and submitted no. 2 and 3, they just haven't been released yet. No. 4 and 5 are in progress.Good to know. Started worrying i had missed something. Thanks.
Alpha Strike really needs properly scaled miniatures.What are properly scaled Alpha Strike miniatures? Do you mean a different scale than current miniatures?
I think he just means scale has meaningful game effects in Alpha Strike rather than just being a "token" on the board.
I think he just means scale has meaningful game effects in Alpha Strike rather than just being a "token" on the board.Ah. I've been playing on terrain so long that I don't remember it not having meaningful effect.
hit my inbox at 1:30 cst
Nothing on my end. I'm in the same boat of not getting anything since closing my pledge manager.Me too.
The original MAD II had a bigger autocannon too (and it was pointed right at you), so I thought it was more than just wings...
Which mechs had those?
Which mechs had those?I was specifically referring to the Stone Rhino. The fluff is that the big gun up top is the CT mounted Small laser which leaves the tiny barrels on the side torsos for the gauss rifles.
I was specifically referring to the Stone Rhino. The fluff is that the big gun up top is the CT mounted Small laser which leaves the tiny barrels on the side torsos for the gauss rifles.
I had the email in my inbox this morning.
Me too.It landed in my spam folder.
... The behemoth ...
No redemption and malice for me either. :-(
Greetings Backers!
We wanted to thank you for being so understanding act the delays coming out of China. So we intercepted Blaine Pardoe's new fiction story and are putting it out to all our awesome backers!
Here it is! Click below to download it.
Download Story
Enjoy!
The Catalyst Team
If you have any questions, reply to this email or contact us
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That's very concerning. I didn't get that and it's not in my spam as far as I can tell.
That's very concerning. I didn't get that and it's not in my spam as far as I can tell.Me too, as for trying to find a cause, did you also use a character credit and re-confirm the pledge in late January?
Me too, as for trying to find a cause, did you also use a character credit and re-confirm the pledge in late January?
That's very concerning. I didn't get that and it's not in my spam as far as I can tell.
I disagree with this. There are BattleMechs designed centuries apart and in completely separated cultures. There shouldn't consistency in design between Inner Sphere and Clan machines or Star League and 3rd Succession War designs. TRO:2750 had consistency in design for that era: The golden age of the Star League. The designs had a 1950's vibe to them. Most notable are the fins on most of them. This transferred to the "lost" Star League designs introduced in the Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook. It made that era of designs unique, and a consistency across the entire line would lose this. You used to be able to tell a Clan OmniMech from an Inner Sphere BattleMech even if you had no idea what they were. From what I've seen of the redesigns, the flavor is being lost.But they aren't completely separated cultures. All mech designs are ultimately derived from the Terran Hegemony originals. From Taurus to he Clan Homeworlds, every mech design is ultimately an upgraded, refined, patched version of the, Mackie, Griffin, Banshee, Wasp, etc that arose in the TH. In the same way that cognates and grammatical commonalities can be found in languages ranging from Icelandic, Irish, and English, through Italian, and Greek, to Iranian and Hindi, because they all derive ultimately from the same Indo-European root language, I'd expect mech design in the Marian Hegemony, Draconis Combine, and Strana Mechty to all have some commonalities. They might be obscured by centuries of slow mutation, and all of the 'families' of mech design, so to speak, would likely have more in common with SLDF designs than with each other, there'd still be commonality there.
But they aren't completely separated cultures. All mech designs are ultimately derived from the Terran Hegemony originals.I was referring to the aesthetics of the designs, not the technology therein. Also, I consider Clan culture to be "completely" separated. While not truly possible due to language and necessary technology, Kerensky did intentionally designed his new society to leave behind the cultures of the Inner Sphere. This is why some troops during the initial battles of the Clan invasion thought they were facing aliens.
No email here either. I am wanting new quality stuff to devour rather badly at the moment since I just re-read Star Lord...