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Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« on: 11 June 2013, 11:11:48 »
This thread is for all issues and problems with Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine.

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #1 on: 11 June 2013, 15:36:03 »
Got a couple here:

P. 44, Shiro Entry, Capabilities: "...umbrella of ordnance that is as effective on airborne targets as as they are to those on the ground."  (typo, repeated word)

P. 35, Avalanche Entry, tech base for configuration C (assuming no changes in tech base, X-pulse lasers = Adv.  I understand this assumption is likely not true any longer, but better to bring this up just in case.)

Also, in the past TRO entries would provide definitions/translations for names.  The names Rokurokubi (long-necked night spirit/demon) and Wendigo (Algonquin cannibal monster) are not defined on their respective entries.  I don't know if these are omissions, but I always like these in their respective entries - it gives insight into the design/flavor of the unit.

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #2 on: 12 June 2013, 00:03:08 »
Dev-level:

Record Sheets of Rokurokubi RK-4K (p. 82) and RK-4X (p. 84)
change side torso armor from 10/6 to 12/4
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #3 on: 07 July 2013, 03:52:11 »
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page 50, Sho-i Clarence Katsumoto notable pilot entry

"Katsumoto is the first of his siblings to eschew the criminal life and join the DCMS."

should read

"Katsumoto is the first of his siblings to eschew the criminal life and join the DCA."

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #4 on: 09 August 2013, 21:09:24 »
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Exhumer page 38 - Capacities
"Its multiple missile launchers do not carry a powerful punch and suffer from continuous targeting problems due to poor integration the use of surplus Garret systems."

There is no evidence that this 'Mech had carried MMLs in its past.  Unless MML were suppose to be included or fluff left out the LRMs were swapped in place of the MMLs. 

This should be corrected to:
"Its long-range missile launchers do not carry a powerful punch and suffer from continuous targeting problems due to poor integration the use of surplus Garret systems."

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Re: Errata Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: 10 August 2013, 02:03:32 »
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Exhumer page 38 - Capacities
"Its multiple missile launchers do not carry a powerful punch and suffer from continuous targeting problems due to poor integration the use of surplus Garret systems."

There is no evidence that this 'Mech had carried MMLs in its past.  Unless MML were suppose to be included or fluff left out the LRMs were swapped in place of the MMLs. 

This should be corrected to:
"Its long-range missile launchers do not carry a powerful punch and suffer from continuous targeting problems due to poor integration the use of surplus Garret systems."

Not errata. The poster is mistaking the quantitative adjective "multiple" for a reference to "multi-missile launchers". The Exhumer has 2 LRM 5 and 1 MRM 10, which are multiple missile launchers.

Acting Errata Coordinator: Moved MUL Team member response into the thread itself for future reference.
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #6 on: 26 October 2013, 18:17:40 »
I'm not sure if this is errata, or just a carry over of the art from the MWDA days (most likely the answer)...but the Avalance image on page 35 shows 12 missile ports per torso, yet the primary configuration only has LRM 10's per torso. There is no variant that matches the art...

Suggestion - Edit the art to delete 2 missile ports per side...and make sure IWM knows about it as well before they make the miniature of this with 2 too many missile ports.
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #7 on: 26 October 2013, 20:50:38 »
It would not be the first machine with too many or not enough ports.  Take a look at the 3025 Atlas artwork and try to ID that big barrel on the left side, and where all the extra LRM tubes are.

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #8 on: 29 October 2013, 08:37:24 »
Hello,
From Phoenix Hawk L Entry, P. 30, Notable Units, chu-i Egberdt Rollins:
"He has continued to reflect the Dragon’s faith in him as his strike lance, known among the Fifth Sword as the shiroi ken."  (dangling clause, unclear how the author wanted to continue)
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #9 on: 12 November 2013, 22:16:26 »
First edition pdf

Wendigo C OmniMech p. 37
Change BV from 2,548 to 2,623

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #10 on: 03 January 2014, 09:06:59 »
According to Solaris Armor Werks:

NK-1C Narukami BV = 1341
NK-BC3 Narukami BV = 1481

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #11 on: 03 January 2014, 14:29:47 »
As per the rules posted at the top of this forum, please enclose the BV calculation and the version number of the software you're using.  Thanks.

That way we can tell where things are going wrong, and whether the issue is with the software or the book.
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #12 on: 11 August 2015, 10:57:59 »
First Edition PDF
Source: Hitotsumes Kozo - Page 40
Problem: Continuum Issues

Summary: Entry in the Deployment conflicts with the Field Manual: 3145's accounts of destruction of the Second Robinson Strikers.  The Hitotsumes Kozo's write up describes the First Ghost being the unit that confronts the strikers.  Where in Field Manual: 3145's Ghost Regiment (p.60) the First Ghost write up describes that Sixth Benjamin Regulars having one struck Mara, jumping ahead of them while they were fight on the world of David.

Suggestion: Field Manual is newer than TRO: 3145 DC.  I suggest that entry in Hitotsumes Kozo's deployment fluff changed to Sixth Benjamin Regulars instead of the First Ghosts, with correct commanding officer of the unit mentioned instead of the First's.

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #13 on: 11 August 2015, 11:33:40 »
(if this is changed, it also applies to TRO 3145 print and pdf)

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #14 on: 08 March 2016, 15:52:39 »
PDF pg. 37

The Wendigo's Weight and Space Allocation Table shows 3 Reflective critical slots in the RA, and 3 Endo Steel critical slots in the LA.

However, the record sheets in back (pgs 91-96) show the reflective slots in the LA and Endo Steel critical slots in the RA.

One of them needs to be errata'd.

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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #15 on: 08 January 2017, 06:13:04 »
Dev-level errata:

Tenshi, p. 49
Change "Alternate Configuration A—Advanced" to "Alternate Configuration A"

Oo-Suzumebachi, p. 53
Change Tech from "Inner Sphere (Advanced)" to "Inner Sphere"

Tenshi A Record Sheet, p. 108
Change Tech Base from "Inner Sphere (Advanced)" to "Inner Sphere"

Oo-Suzumebachi Record Sheet, p. 114
Change Tech Base from "Inner Sphere (Advanced)" to "Inner Sphere"
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #16 on: 16 January 2017, 07:47:59 »
First Edition PDF
Source: Hitotsumes Kozo - Page 40
Problem: Battle Value
Comments: The TRO's entry for the  Hitotsume Kozo HKZ-1F's battle value differs from MUL and Record Sheets 3145 Unabridge.  Its assumed the Record Sheet and MUL being newer source of information is the correct listing.

Solution: Change entry of Battle Value to 1,998
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Re: Technical Readout: 3145 Draconis Combine
« Reply #17 on: 30 January 2022, 18:59:18 »
First Edition PDF
Source: Hitotsumes Kozo - Page 40
Problem: Continuum Issues

Summary: Entry in the Deployment conflicts with the Field Manual: 3145's accounts of destruction of the Second Robinson Strikers.  The Hitotsumes Kozo's write up describes the First Ghost being the unit that confronts the strikers.  Where in Field Manual: 3145's Ghost Regiment (p.60) the First Ghost write up describes that Sixth Benjamin Regulars having one struck Mara, jumping ahead of them while they were fight on the world of David.

Suggestion: Field Manual is newer than TRO: 3145 DC.  I suggest that entry in Hitotsumes Kozo's deployment fluff changed to Sixth Benjamin Regulars instead of the First Ghosts, with correct commanding officer of the unit mentioned instead of the First's.

More than six years in the making, here's a confirmation on that error.

The solution is to change the planet, though. Replace Mara with David. Defenders are unnamed Davion militia, the capital is Sling. (Note, this is the next issue posed by FM 3145's entry on p. 60, as Republic Worlds has it as Polis. My personal assumption is that the Davions, upon finally taking the world in 3142 (ER3145, p. 41), relocated the capitol from Polis to Sling. This will be the assumption under which the word "new capital" will appear when there is a reprint.)
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