Star Trek Discovery

[Lorcan Nagle]

Ah, I thought for some reason that they'd partially financed the show.

It's marketed as a Netflix original, but a lot of shows they don't actually produce are - The Expanse had that tag over here before it went to Amazon.

[monbvol]

In a round about way they did by shelling out all that money.

[I am Belch II]

The new Picard show from what I understand will be on CBS Prime....but Amazon in places that are not the United States.

I havent found anything to say other ways to watch.

[Lorcan Nagle]

The new Picard show from what I understand will be on CBS Prime....but Amazon in places that are not the United States.

I havent found anything to say other ways to watch.

Looks like it's going to be on TV in Canada, like DISCO.  But Amazon everywhere outside North America.

[Dragon Cat]

Set 18 years after Nemises should be interesting

[Wrangler]

Set 18 years after Nemises should be interesting

Interesting their basing the time since Nemise in real time. When it aires, (provide its next year) it will be 18 years.

[Dragon Cat]

Interesting their basing the time since Nemise in real time. When it aires, (provide its next year) it will be 18 years.

The actors that much older so it works be interesting to see where the universe has gone I saw a still Picard out of uniform  but with someone in uniform behind looking away

The uniform resembled the DS9/Voyager/Star Trek Online black with primary colour shoulders instead of the darker military style of late DS9/First Contact

The only other thing was it confirmed Spock failed to save Romulus before he went back in time

[Lorcan Nagle]

There's a cast list floating around as well.  If accurate, Picard is travelling to a site of archaeological importance on a private ship, with the cast being his entourage and the ship's crew.  And apparently it's going to be self-contained.

[I am Belch II]

The Picard Series will have Romulus exploded, like from the JJ verse.

[Wrangler]

I wish they won't do that. It was arguably the dumbest thing to happen. Red Anti-matter.

However, Picard series isn't suppose to be in TOS's universe, it's in the DISCO-Prime universe from what i read about.

[roosterboy]

However, Picard series isn't suppose to be in TOS's universe, it's in the DISCO-Prime universe from what i read about.

Those are the same universes.

[HobbesHurlbut]

I wish they won't do that. It was arguably the dumbest thing to happen. Red Anti-matter.

Red Anti-matter didnt cause the Hobus Supernova, it simply stopped it. You meant you wish they wouldn't do that because of how the Hobus Supernova performed. (expanding faster the more stellar bodies it consumed?)

[Kentares]

Hope they make some sense of the series instead of this... idiocy that Discovery turned out.

[Wrangler]

Red Anti-matter didnt cause the Hobus Supernova, it simply stopped it. You meant you wish they wouldn't do that because of how the Hobus Supernova performed. (expanding faster the more stellar bodies it consumed?)

Mostly that.  It seemed to be odd event, in itself. I personally see it as something connected more from the Kelvin universe than old Canon.   
I see Picard's prime universe the origins of the event.  Since Enterprise of Disco does not appear to be same at all with Kelvin.  It was commissioned much sooner, it's appearance and technology little bit off and different.

[Lorcan Nagle]

Since Enterprise of Disco does not appear to be same at all with Kelvin.  It was commissioned much sooner, it's appearance and technology little bit off and different.

That's because it's the Enterprise from TOS, with a visual update

[ANS Kamas P81]

I always liked STO's explanation for the Hobus supernova.  Opening a very large portal in the heart of a star and opening the other end near or on Romulus would have fascinating thermodynamic questions, not the least of which is the classic expanding-fluid calculation when said fluid is 200 million degrees and instantaneously exposed to vacuum.

Silly romulans, tricks are for Iconians!

[Kentares]

I always liked STO's explanation for the Hobus supernova.  Opening a very large portal in the heart of a star and opening the other end near or on Romulus would have fascinating thermodynamic questions, not the least of which is the classic expanding-fluid calculation when said fluid is 200 million degrees and instantaneously exposed to vacuum.

Whats the reason given for that in the game? Why did they opened said portal?

[ThePW]

https://sto.gamepedia.com/Main_Page maybe it's in here? its been several years since I dropped the game (when the Chinese bought it out)… so I've forgotten some of the story but believe the destruction of Romulus was just the tip of the iceberg had Spock completely failed...

[ANS Kamas P81]

Whats the reason given for that in the game? Why did they opened said portal?

Taris was working the project along with Hakeev, under Sela's orders.  They goofed up somewhere and accidentally a star; the details aren't quite specific as to WHAT they did but the means and outcome were clear.

[Kentares]

Picard teaser... https://streamable.com/ad5re

[ANS Kamas P81]

If they're holding 1:1 years as it seems, then 1994 to today is 25 years - and 2002's Nemesis was the last time we saw an outing, 17 years ago.  So the "fifteen years ago" thing is interesting, and offhand probably relates to the Hobus supernova and the destruction of Romulus (with mention of the rescue armada).  But what happened after that?  Gonna be interesting...

According to Memory Alpha, 2371 is when Generations takes place in 1994, and 2379 ties to 2002's Nemesis, where Shinzon tried to attack Earth and failed.  Seventeen years after that would place the film at 2396, and 2381 for our ostensible "incident" mentioned in the trailer.  Poking Memory Beta for the licensed works...

...oh god, the Destiny novels are in 2381.

Fudging that 15 years a bit (depending on what month/week/day it's stated, etc) according to Memory Beta:
"The Federation begins providing material and humanitarian aid to the devastated Romulan Star Empire, and attempts to facilitate negotiations for the re-establishment of permanent government."  That's immediately post-Shinzon, and makes some sense.

Though, I suppose my thought above was wrong - at least, assuming they stick to the established timeline - since Hobus was 2387, eight years after Nemesis.  We'll see what it's referring to, but that at least is a look back at the setting so far.

[Kentares]

If they're holding 1:1 years as it seems, then 1994 to today is 25 years - and 2002's Nemesis was the last time we saw an outing, 17 years ago.  So the "fifteen years ago" thing is interesting, and offhand probably relates to the Hobus supernova and the destruction of Romulus (with mention of the rescue armada).  But what happened after that?  Gonna be interesting...

According to Memory Alpha, 2371 is when Generations takes place in 1994, and 2379 ties to 2002's Nemesis, where Shinzon tried to attack Earth and failed.  Seventeen years after that would place the film at 2396, and 2381 for our ostensible "incident" mentioned in the trailer.  Poking Memory Beta for the licensed works...

...oh god, the Destiny novels are in 2381.

Fudging that 15 years a bit (depending on what month/week/day it's stated, etc) according to Memory Beta:
"The Federation begins providing material and humanitarian aid to the devastated Romulan Star Empire, and attempts to facilitate negotiations for the re-establishment of permanent government."  That's immediately post-Shinzon, and makes some sense.

Though, I suppose my thought above was wrong - at least, assuming they stick to the established timeline - since Hobus was 2387, eight years after Nemesis.  We'll see what it's referring to, but that at least is a look back at the setting so far.

But all of that (beyond what we see in the movies of course) is assuming that is canon right? (what are the sources for that becoming canon BTW?)

What if they throw all of that through the window?

[Liam's Ghost]

Have the TV shows or movies ever referenced the novels and other expanded universe media?

[GreyWolfActual]

Have the TV shows or movies ever referenced the novels and other expanded universe media?

No.

Canon is Star Trek continuity as presented on TV and Movie screens. Licensed products like books and comics aren’t part of that continuity, so they aren’t canon.

[ANS Kamas P81]

I only went to memory beta to look at the timeline since there's very little in the main canon Memory Alpha stuff.  There's dates well after 2400, but very little actual info. Not a lot written down, a lot they can write in.

Memory Beta stuff came up because you never know, maybe they'll like something from a book and put it in.  Or just to see where in the books things like this might end up taking place.  Reference points, at most, rather than "they'll do this!"

[Lorcan Nagle]

Have the TV shows or movies ever referenced the novels and other expanded universe media?

No.

Stuff from the novels has made it into the TV and movie canon, but very infrequently - Sulu, Uhurua and Number One's first names all came from books, as does some background information on Vulcan, and the idea of Control from DISCO series 2 comes from the post-Destiny Section 31 novels.

[gyedid]

No.

It would seem that this is no longer quite true.  The whole Control arc from this past season of DISCO is apparently an adaptation of a plot from one of the Section 31 novels that are set post-ST:VOY.  (Which gives ammunition to those people who feel that DISCO should've been a post-VOY sequel, and not a prequel to TOS.)

cheers,

Gabe

[Weirdo]

Is it confirmed that it's an actual adaptation, and cannot possibly be coincidence?

[Lorcan Nagle]

Is it confirmed that it's an actual adaptation, and cannot possibly be coincidence?

There's no way they didn't know, Kirsten Beyer is the senior staff writer on DISCO and also a Trek novelist.  But the producers have every right to mine the novels and comics for ideas to repurpose.

I've not read those Section 31 novels, but I understand the context and direction of the two stories are quite different beyond "Section 31 runs a predictive AI called Control that takes matters into its own hands"

[Kentares]

And people complain about Disneys reset of Star Wars canon...