Author Topic: Has Apollyon's Shootist been given stats? (Read 19328 times)

csimian · « **on:** 18 May 2012, 11:20:52 »

I don't have Jihad: The Final Reckoning yet. But I would like to know if Apollyon's Shootist has been published and if so where.

Thanks!

gooseman · « **Reply #1 on:** 18 May 2012, 11:24:43 »

Not yet.....

ThelVadam · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 May 2012, 16:07:15 »

has there ever been fiction with Apollyon in a shootist yet? all the jihad books I read have him pontificating to some poor sap about to get his world messed up.

Nightsky · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 May 2012, 17:37:27 »

He probably even lectured himself as the Regulan baka-nukes came raining down.

Moonsword · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 May 2012, 18:20:13 »

It was detailed in one of the BattleCorps scenarios.

Alex Keller · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 May 2012, 18:47:29 »

Wait.... so Apollyon's Shootist has stats now?

Kojak · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 May 2012, 21:39:39 »

Which scenario? I don't recall that one.

Jayof9s · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 May 2012, 22:59:51 »

I'm wondering about the same, I just looked through all the scenarios I have access to and didn't see it. I also have almost all the scenarios that have been released by battlecorps.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 May 2012, 23:32:15 »

Maybe the WoB took it down after it was posted by mistake? :D ;)

csimian · « **Reply #9 on:** 21 May 2012, 11:46:33 »

Quote from: Moonsword on 18 May 2012, 18:20:13

It was detailed in one of the BattleCorps scenarios.

Any idea which one?

Moonsword · « **Reply #10 on:** 21 May 2012, 16:23:52 »

Hmm. I could've sworn it had been - I'd swear someone had mentioned it back on the last iteration of the boards - but now that I look into it more closely, no, it hasn't. My apologies for the confusion.

Paul · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 May 2012, 17:47:17 »

Any record sheet for his Shootist that doesn't include the HPG Cannon can't be real.

;)

Paul

Cyc · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 May 2012, 19:25:51 »

Hmmm, I'm wondering if there is any other way to simulate its effects (ranged method of sending engines supercritical/explodey) if the HPG cannon turned out only to be rumor.

It would be both sad/amusing in a kind of ninja rep-enhancement way if it was just pre-rigged explosives on enemies thanks to ROM :)

ColonelCody · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 May 2012, 19:54:26 »

Quote from: Paul on 21 May 2012, 17:47:17

Any record sheet for his Shootist that doesn't include the HPG Cannon can't be real.

;)

Paul

HPG cannon? really? ok....i'm officially sick.

Shin_Fenris · « **Reply #14 on:** 22 May 2012, 16:42:13 »

I'm sure his HPG cannon was manufactured by the same guy that threw a ground-mobile HPG on a Septicimia during the WoR. Society working with the Word? Perish the thought.

Lord Harlock · « **Reply #15 on:** 22 May 2012, 17:01:41 »

Let's just call the Shootist, Megatron, and be done with it.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #16 on:** 22 May 2012, 21:23:52 »

An HPG blast would just be a overwhelming EMP shot shouldn't it?

Trajan Helmer · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 May 2012, 00:30:14 »

I'm sure it would make somebody's ear ring...

Cyc · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 May 2012, 00:46:34 »

Quote from: Stormlion1 on 22 May 2012, 21:23:52

An HPG blast would just be a overwhelming EMP shot shouldn't it?

Well, Final Reckoning implies the HPG Cannon actually generates/fires a pinhole sided K-F event at targets causing misjump style catastophic mangling/explosion.

StCptMara · « **Reply #19 on:** 23 May 2012, 01:42:53 »

Quote from: Cyc on 23 May 2012, 00:46:34

Well, Final Reckoning implies the HPG Cannon actually generates/fires a pinhole sided K-F event at targets causing misjump style catastophic mangling/explosion.

Is that like the use of the HPG in Null Set(iirc?) that has since been de-canonized?

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #20 on:** 23 May 2012, 02:05:06 »

Quote from: Lord Harlock on 22 May 2012, 17:01:41

Let's just call the Shootist, Megatron, and be done with it.

That was the original Shootist.

This one was rebuilt by the Master after it was damaged to the point of nonfunction in a fight with a Grand Titan.

whistler · « **Reply #21 on:** 23 May 2012, 02:57:47 »

when i saw the Septicemia Z in the Wars of Reaving Supplemental, mounting that Ground-Moblie HPG, i figured that Apollyon's Shootist would be something similar. i can't think of a more perfect Blakist mech for mounting a HPG weapon. the Hunchback is really the only other mech i'd consider for the job, but the Shootist fits ol' Precentor Pantsless perfctly.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #22 on:** 23 May 2012, 04:59:37 »

Quote from: StCptMara on 23 May 2012, 01:42:53

Is that like the use of the HPG in Null Set(iirc?) that has since been de-canonized?

Wait, Null Set got decanonised?

SCC · « **Reply #23 on:** 23 May 2012, 05:48:56 »

Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 23 May 2012, 04:59:37

Wait, Null Set got decanonised?

Sarna doesn't make a mention of it, so unless it's new or obscure (the decanonization) I'd guess no, but might have something to do with stuff CGL can't reprint or something

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #24 on:** 23 May 2012, 10:30:02 »

Quote from: whistler on 23 May 2012, 02:57:47

when i saw the Septicemia Z in the Wars of Reaving Supplemental, mounting that Ground-Moblie HPG, i figured that Apollyon's Shootist would be something similar. i can't think of a more perfect Blakist mech for mounting a HPG weapon. the Hunchback is really the only other mech i'd consider for the job, but the Shootist fits ol' Precentor Pantsless perfctly.

The Shootist fits Apollyon for two good reasons, one is it started out as a bodyguard mech, and in the final analysis Apollyon is the Masters champion and bodyguard. The second reason is that its megatron. Which really means the first reason doesn't matter as much.

Lord Harlock · « **Reply #25 on:** 23 May 2012, 10:44:24 »

Quote from: MoneyLovinOgre4Hire on 23 May 2012, 02:05:06

That was the original Shootist.

This one was rebuilt by the Master after it was damaged to the point of nonfunction in a fight with a Grand Titan.

Then we call it the Galvatron config.

martian · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 May 2012, 11:22:08 »

From what I understand, HPG burst on Berenson (Null Set) was just "a creative use" of HPG station, while HPG Cannon from (Jihad: Final Reckoning) is something different.

All I can say is that Apollyon's Shootist is listed in the MUL. So sooner or later we will probably get Record sheet for it.

ColonelCody · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 May 2012, 12:42:10 »

I have never said this about anything in Battletech, not even the CGI cartoon. but here I go. This should never, ever, ever EVER see the light of day, the WORST Idea ever and it should remain plot fiat.

Stormlion1 · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 May 2012, 12:55:40 »

Got to disagree, I want to see this Shootist, but it has to have so many bad points to make it unplayable by anyone other than Apollyon, it wouldn't be cool any other way.

Paul · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 May 2012, 13:33:16 »

Well, the weapon has actual game stats. And the rules were scaled to ponder the possibility of equipping a DropShip with a LOT of them.

Whether it ever gets published is a big unknown.
Even if it does, it's still a question whether we'll say it actually existed, or whether said stats are entirely theoretical.

Paul