Author Topic: The Free Worlds League: Winning with what we've got! (Read 162554 times)

jklantern · « **Reply #960 on:** 28 February 2018, 08:58:03 »

Quote from: Dies Irae on 27 February 2018, 22:24:19

Uhh. I assume this isn't being directed at me, but I'll bite anyway... When did we ever have access to the Dragon Fire?
The majority are Lyran/Blakist.

I was about to ask what the heck I missed...

The Eagle · « **Reply #961 on:** 28 February 2018, 10:49:20 »

I even double checked the MUL. At no point does the FWLM appear for any variant of the Dragon Fire. Sooo...maybe If we salvaged one during BROKEN FIST or SCOUR?

Colt Ward · « **Reply #962 on:** 28 February 2018, 18:13:28 »

Might be confusing with the Maelstrom but . . .

Anyone else used the Hawk Moth II? I am now wishing we had one with a Snub in the turret.

The Eagle · « **Reply #963 on:** 28 February 2018, 22:36:47 »

Not I. It's hideous and I prefer good looking units. One of the reasons why I've never run a Bloodhound.

Deadborder · « **Reply #964 on:** 01 March 2018, 03:42:52 »

The Hawk Moth II is a great little beast, especially the MML version. The utility you get out of it is amazing, and it's a good case for mixing different ammo types. A VTOL that can spread Smoke of Thunders and then follow through with live warheads is good in my book. The utility of the turret is also a bonus, allowing a bit more flexibility in how you attack and/or planning a fast getaway.

Cannot reccomend it enough

Well, save for the sniper version. That thing's hideous and I wouldn't touch it with a HV stick

grimlock1 · « **Reply #965 on:** 21 March 2018, 13:58:01 »

Quote from: Deadborder on 01 March 2018, 03:42:52

Well, save for the sniper version. That thing's hideous and I wouldn't touch it with a HV stick

Eh, just there's something about plinking the other guy from outside his max range. AC/2's don't kill your opponents, but you can use it to annoy the hell out of them. >:D

Colt Ward · « **Reply #966 on:** 21 March 2018, 14:06:48 »

I think he is making a joke about the HV cannon's tendency to blow up.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #967 on:** 21 March 2018, 20:04:09 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 21 March 2018, 14:06:48

I think he is making a joke about the HV cannon's tendency to blow up.

You say tendency. I say inevitably.

Deadborder · « **Reply #968 on:** 21 March 2018, 21:22:34 »

Quote from: Dies Irae on 21 March 2018, 20:04:09

You say tendency. I say inevitably.

Yeah. Any weapon that suffers explosive failure on a "2" is not going to be my first choice.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #969 on:** 21 March 2018, 21:24:41 »

Dunno, I like using the rapid fire AC rule on 3025 units in 'modern' times. Makes Vedettes and Scorpions bite a bit more . . . and how how sweet it was when my Hunchback 4G went toe to toe with a Atlas last time I used it.

Kitsune413 · « **Reply #970 on:** 21 March 2018, 21:33:55 »

I just noticed the 100 eagle bill has a guy with a monocle on it...

Deadborder · « **Reply #971 on:** 21 March 2018, 21:37:07 »

Rapid Fire AC is an optional rule, and even then, only is a problem when you are rapid-firing.

A HVAC blows up on a 2 as a part of its normal operations.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #972 on:** 21 March 2018, 22:12:36 »

Yeah, I have just taken folks word on that and stayed away from any units using it. HVACs have always sounded more useful as odd-shaped clubs.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #973 on:** 21 March 2018, 22:15:33 »

It's not a bug. It's a feature. It's a feature put in to remind you not to use HVACs.

grimlock1 · « **Reply #974 on:** 22 March 2018, 10:31:30 »

Quote from: Dies Irae on 21 March 2018, 22:15:33

It's not a bug. It's a feature. It's a feature put in to remind you not to use HVACs.

I get creating gear that has an Achilles heel. Ultra AC's, Heavy Gauss, bombast Laser, heavy lasers, and the like. They can be awesome, but you have to be smart about how you use them, or things might go bad. Or you could play it safe.

HVACs, caseless AC ammo... snake eyes happens a little too often for my liking.

Sartris · « **Reply #975 on:** 22 March 2018, 12:41:55 »

i could care less about the explody bits. it makes life more interesting. what really hampers the HVAC is the weight.

sniping with the HVAC/5 and backing into your own heavy smoke is entertaining

grimlock1 · « **Reply #976 on:** 22 March 2018, 15:28:41 »

Quote from: Sartris on 22 March 2018, 12:41:55

sniping with the HVAC/5 and backing into your own heavy smoke is entertaining

Didn't Batman do that a lot?

Colt Ward · « **Reply #977 on:** 22 March 2018, 15:50:17 »

So the Spartan MotW thread got me thinking . . .

With the late 50s & earlier 60s cozy relationship with the Blakists . . . what SLDF mech design do you wish the Blakists had given to the League to build as part of a co-op arrangement? IE, give us the knowledge, we will re-tool X factory line, we split the costs of building and we split the production runs type of arrangement. I know it would have gone sideways (like warships) later on but . . .

Dies Irae · « **Reply #978 on:** 22 March 2018, 18:43:46 »

Devastators. Nightstars. Thunderhawks. Pillagers.

(Is it obvious I have Assault envy?)

I've long since learnt how to employ the quirky FWL Overweight Heavy lineup, but sometimes, you just want a traditional assault 'Mech lance to ram down the centre of the line until it shatters.

Weirdo · « **Reply #979 on:** 22 March 2018, 18:59:43 »

Some sort of MBT, like the Demon or something. We're fine for mechs, but for much of the late Succession Wars and Early Clan Invasion, we built no solid heavy vehicles, aside from the Ontos. We need big tanks.

Dies Irae · « **Reply #980 on:** 22 March 2018, 19:38:46 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 22 March 2018, 18:59:43

Some sort of MBT, like the Demon or something. We're fine for mechs, but for much of the late Succession Wars and Early Clan Invasion, we built no solid heavy vehicles, aside from the Ontos. We need big tanks.

What about being enthusiastic users of the Zhukov and Manticore?

Weirdo · « **Reply #981 on:** 22 March 2018, 19:45:13 »

When we build them, I'll call it good.

Wait.

We get Zhukovs?!?

Dies Irae · « **Reply #982 on:** 22 March 2018, 19:59:57 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 22 March 2018, 19:45:13

When we build them, I'll call it good.

Wait.

We get Zhukovs?!?

Late Succession War era onwards, they're listed as Marik-Liao and the TRO entry refers to the League as a primary user of the tanks.
I use them extensively to bulk up my conventional detachments for that reason.

Weirdo · « **Reply #983 on:** 22 March 2018, 20:24:00 »

Quote from: Dies Irae on 22 March 2018, 19:59:57

Late Succession War era onwards, they're listed as Marik-Liao and the TRO entry refers to the League as a primary user of the tanks.
I use them extensively to bulk up my conventional detachments for that reason.