Author Topic: The Free Worlds League: Winning with what we've got! (Read 162636 times)

truetanker · « **Reply #990 on:** 24 March 2018, 08:33:53 »

3030 was the year of the Zukhov, Adlis created them to supplement the Demolisher. Wolf's Dragoons were the first to use them in a major way...

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Weirdo · « **Reply #991 on:** 24 March 2018, 10:21:55 »

We get Zugvogels like everyone else, right? Anyone have any luck using them in FWL formations? Seems to me like a good way to rapidly deploy our awkwardly oversized BA platoons. And if any player set has any experience using an aircraft that's slow, kinda fragile, but mounts ALL the guns, it's us. :)

truetanker · « **Reply #992 on:** 24 March 2018, 11:01:09 »

I don't know... that Lyran WiGE is kinda slow...

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The Eagle · « **Reply #993 on:** 24 March 2018, 11:26:59 »

I know for a fact I've mentioned this before, but I too have long been disappointed that the FWL didn't manufacture a domestic MBT for centuries. Ontos and Zhukov are awesome and I own a lance of each, but something with decent armor and a good main gun in the 4/6 Or 5/8 speed range that we don't need to import from the Capellans or Davions would be nice.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #994 on:** 24 March 2018, 11:33:23 »

Maybe all those leftover Merkava MkVIii and Augustus were enough? Or SL tanks.

Weirdo · « **Reply #995 on:** 24 March 2018, 14:38:42 »

Quote from: truetanker on 24 March 2018, 11:01:09

I don't know... that Lyran WiGE is kinda slow...

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The Fensalir? What about it? It makes a nice self-deploying assault bunker, I'll admit.

Sartris · « **Reply #996 on:** 24 March 2018, 15:47:52 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 24 March 2018, 11:33:23

Maybe all those leftover Merkava MkVIii and Augustus were enough? Or SL tanks.

Only some powergaming munchkin would field merkavas. Catch me outside with my legion of Kestrel tanks and primitive missile carriers

truetanker · « **Reply #997 on:** 25 March 2018, 14:57:20 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 24 March 2018, 11:33:23

Maybe all those leftover Merkava MkVIii and Augustus were enough? Or SL tanks.

Ugh... old tech. ;D

Why not try these planets instead:

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Oliver
Kalidasa
Loyalty

Special notes: Still in production as early as 3000 ( or sooner ) to as late as 3150+... :o >:D

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Liam's Ghost · « **Reply #998 on:** 25 March 2018, 16:48:59 »

Quote from: Sartris on 24 March 2018, 15:47:52

Only some powergaming munchkin would field merkavas. Catch me outside with my legion of Kestrel tanks and primitive missile carriers

Bah, I'll take that on with my regiment of footsloggers armed with bolt action rifles.

(hey, it's topical! That's an actual Free Worlds League infantry regiment!)

truetanker · « **Reply #999 on:** 25 March 2018, 17:12:10 »

Quote from: Liam's Ghost on 25 March 2018, 16:48:59

Bah, I'll take that on with my regiment of footsloggers armed with bolt action rifles.

(hey, it's topical! That's an actual Free Worlds League infantry regiment!)

So about 34 Platoons of the these guys and gals, armed with AX-22s and Hawk Eagles perhaps?
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Foot_Ballistic_Rifle

About .79 per trooper or so...
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Liam's Ghost · « **Reply #1000 on:** 25 March 2018, 17:19:18 »

Nope, actual bolt action rifles. The kind used by civilian hunters.

truetanker · « **Reply #1001 on:** 25 March 2018, 17:32:18 »

You mean the .14 ones?

The ones that do about 4 points each Platoon at 3 Hexes ones?

Ugh... better than the Makeshifts I guess.

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Colt Ward · « **Reply #1002 on:** 25 March 2018, 20:19:01 »

Quote from: Sartris on 24 March 2018, 15:47:52

Only some powergaming munchkin would field merkavas. Catch me outside with my legion of Kestrel tanks and primitive missile carriers

Since when are AC/5 armed Merkavas power gaming in 2750?

Sartris · « **Reply #1003 on:** 25 March 2018, 20:45:39 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 25 March 2018, 20:19:01

Since when are AC/5 armed Merkavas power gaming in 2750?

Weirdo · « **Reply #1004 on:** 26 April 2018, 11:01:19 »

Hooray! Battletech coming up on my group's rotation has finally coincided with my ability to attend, so it's Atrein' Time!

For funsies, I've opted to field a MWDA-style combined arms force, incorporating normal mechs, vees, infantry, and workmechs. Right now I'm looking at an Orion-2M, Carronade, 2 Main Gauche IFVs, 2 squads of Phalanx-Ds, and one CattleMaster Hunter.

Fluff-wise, I'm calling it a frontline detachment making use of a local's knowledge of the terrain. In practice, I expect the CattleMaster to spend most of the game trying to look unimportant, while acting as a light close escort for the heavies.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1005 on:** 26 April 2018, 12:43:40 »

For those who are interested, the Anzu's 3D model is down in the mini page. It comes out out this quarter so its great to see the model before it hits the shelves.

I would like to see it become a workhorse for the nFWL's forces.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1006 on:** 02 May 2018, 09:45:03 »

For the record, Phalanx with VSPLs, Main Gauche with plasma, and Carronade with Silver Bullet is some of the most fun physically possible. :)

Unrelated question: We all know the purple eagle emblem we fight under. When flown as a flag, do we know what color the background of the flag is?

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1007 on:** 02 May 2018, 11:07:32 »

Quote from: Weirdo on 02 May 2018, 09:45:03

Unrelated question: We all know the purple eagle emblem we fight under. When flown as a flag, do we know what color the background of the flag is?

The BTU is Neo-Pre-Westphalian. People of the universe are subjects of an emperor (self titled as First Price, Coordinator, and etc) rather than being actual citizens of a nation-state as we'd recognize in our Westphalian era real world. (Yes that includes the Capellans.)

As there are no nations, there are no national flags. Just House Crests. Which can indeed be placed on a flag, but there's no "Free Worlds League Flag". Indicentally, this ambiguous vexillology works in your favor as a fan. A Marik Eagle on an orange field isn't any more or less wrong than a Marik Eagle on a white field. Indeed, disagreement over which is the "proper" flag for the FWL may well be the in-universe casus belli explaining why the two sides fight in a FWL mirror match :)

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1008 on:** 02 May 2018, 11:34:15 »

Wasn't there one on the cover of FMU that was supposed to be representing the Martial Olympiad? Also though one was on the FMFWL cover with the parade scene?

With that said, TDC maybe right . . . for instance, FWL flags in Regulan space have orange which is associated with them IIRC while Oriente may have white, and so on.

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1009 on:** 02 May 2018, 11:46:40 »

Quote from: Colt Ward on 02 May 2018, 11:34:15

Wasn't there one on the cover of FMU that was supposed to be representing the Martial Olympiad? Also though one was on the FMFWL cover with the parade scene?

With that said, TDC maybe right . . . for instance, FWL flags in Regulan space have orange which is associated with them IIRC while Oriente may have white, and so on.

The Martial Olympiad depiction on the cover of FM:U would be one of my exhibits to support my argument. There are few color pictures of actual flags as opposed to crests, but that's one of the few. The Fed Suns flag in this example is white with blue and red stripes, whereas the Fed Suns flag being danced upon by a Northwind Highlander in House Liao is gold and black.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1010 on:** 02 May 2018, 11:54:41 »

You'll note that I did not actually ask about the FWL flag, but what color went behind the purple eagle, which I know to be the crest of House Marik instead of the League.

I'm asking because I'm flagging some boats for a naval militia, and wanted to know the color to paint the paper before putting Marik decals on it.

Tai Dai Cultist · « **Reply #1011 on:** 02 May 2018, 12:00:58 »

Honestly the answer is much the same.

The House Crests aren't standardized the way logos are. Sometimes the crests are just a single color with negative space (like the Crests on the back of the House Books). Sometimes the crests are in full/multiple color (like the crests on the front of those same books). In the case of Liao, sometimes it's a battlemech arm holding a sword instead of a human arm. There are also subtle differences between artistic renditions. This Kurita Dragon or Marik Eagle might not be an exact copy of that one, especially in the case of fan art and even official artwork separated by 2-3 decades of publication. But they're still close enough that there's no question what identity the crest is conveying.

Again, I think the answer is "whatever you find visually appealing". There's enough canonical variance to do what you like. Especially in the FWL, where they take a point of pride in doing things their own way rather than their neighbors' way. As mentioned by Cold Ward, you can pick a color to match with the purple for the purpose of implying some sub-factional identity to your force. You can even make it complex: perhaps do a split field of half orange and half white to show a mixed Regulan/Oriente force. Whether it's orange sinister white dexter or vice versa can be you saying something about the nature of your hypothetical force.

Weirdo · « **Reply #1012 on:** 02 May 2018, 12:26:10 »

Having thought about it, I'm going to go similar to British naval ensigns in the Age of Sail, which were a different color based on the ship's assigned theater. Since this militia will likely be operating alongside my Atreans, who often fought on the Steiner front(at least, they died there in the Jihad), I'll probably go for something blue-ish.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1013 on:** 02 May 2018, 13:50:48 »

Yeah, I was going to use Tamarind as another example from the post-Jihad break up states but could not remember a color supposed to be associated with them.

Deadborder · « **Reply #1014 on:** 02 May 2018, 18:29:49 »

If it helps. the Tamarind Regulars use a colour scheme of white with a purple trim

Getz · « **Reply #1015 on:** 02 May 2018, 20:18:56 »

Can anyone tell me if the 1st Atrean Dragoons are still around in the current time line? I have a battalion of them sitting on my shelf and I'd like to try "updating" them from mid 3060s tech to something a bit more up to the minute...

Weirdo · « **Reply #1016 on:** 02 May 2018, 22:02:03 »

Sadly, no. They're my favorite(I was ecstatic when I first saw the sample company in Alpha Strike), but they died early in the Jihad. Against Skye, no less. :-[

At this point, I think the 14th is the only active Atrean Dragoon regiment.

I still paint all my Marik stuff in Atrean greens, I just leave off any reference to a particular number when playing post-Jihad games.

The Eagle · « **Reply #1017 on:** 02 May 2018, 22:03:16 »

There is actually a FWL national flag separate from the Marik house crest.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=21384.0

Colt Ward · « **Reply #1018 on:** 02 May 2018, 22:10:30 »

Didn't some of the Atrean regiments get absorbed into the proto-state militaries? I thought survivors of some became Regulan Hussars.

Sartris · « **Reply #1019 on:** 02 May 2018, 22:29:53 »

The remnants of the 11th and 13th were rolled into the 14th after HAMMERFALL